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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by RedKaos, Jun 17, 2008.

    Jun 17, 2008
  1. RedKaos

    RedKaos Banned User

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    France
    Never seen this in 5 years of online gambling.

    583 spins at 2$ a bet on Achilles slot without triggering a bonus feature.

    I will stay away definitevely from this crap.

    I don't give a shit losing a few bucks but I'd prefer giving my money to the homeless instead of wasting it in a rogue operator.
     
  2. Jun 17, 2008
  3. Audioz

    Audioz Banned User

    Occupation:
    call center agent
    Location:
    Austria
    I don't want to call them rogue or anything else, but i've experienced also, that after there was fallung some Random Jackpots within a short time, their payout was always very low!

    I've made a deposit with $50 and played only with 20 cent bets but doesn't hit anything and the free spins come only as i was dwon to $ 1,60 but it pays nearly nothing (only 53 cent!)

    Certainly you can call it only pain, but it's always, when some higher RJs were fallen, like now, because there were very much RJs hit in the last few days (Enchanted Garden nearly $ 6,000, Hillibillies about $5,000, Outta This World about $ 6,000, Cleopatra's Gold about $11,000) and this happens all in the last 1 week, so maybe this is the reason, why we couldn't win there anything now, or it's really only a very bad pain for us all?
     
  4. Jun 17, 2008
  5. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    rogued is a little harsh imo.i have won and i have lost at alot of casinos but imo inetbet still ranks among the top rtg casinos out there.it makes one feel crappy when they go so long without a feature but i dont think its just with inetbet alone, you just have had some bad luck, had you had won, the thread would have a different title, wouldnt it? i wish you luck on finding the perfect online casino.....................laurie:)
     
  6. Jun 17, 2008
  7. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Bierland
    You're implying that the operator can switch on or off the win switch. Sorry, that's not the case. It's a bit unfair to point at iNetBet because you didn't hit a bonus round.
     
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  8. Jun 17, 2008
  9. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    "Achilles" is medium/high variance so while 600 spins without a bonus is more than possible, it's typical of this type of slot. RTG's "Real Series" slots percentage settings take one of 3 forms. Based on memory, these are 97%, 95% and 93% set globally across all slots at a casino. BUT...bear in mind they all have progressive jackpots which will not only reduce the actual expected return in normal play, but will increase the variance - by how much on either I couldn't tell you. If you want regular bonus rounds, then go "low variance" with something like "Derby Dollars". And avoid "Rain Dance" ;)

    RTG controls the % settings, not the casino as some widely assume, and a casino has to request a change, justify it to RTG, then wait for around 4-6 months for it to be applied - if it is considered justified (don't ask me how they decide!!).

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    And now for a little informative spam: I put the closest approximations to variance for around 200 slots on You must register/login in order to see the link. - use the dropdowns to find slots close to certain variance types. (Sorry if you use Firefox but I didn't have the time or inclination to deal with it's petty layout quibbles :D)
     
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  10. Jun 17, 2008
  11. Audioz

    Audioz Banned User

    Occupation:
    call center agent
    Location:
    Austria
    That's not really true, because even this slot pays out nothinh at the moment :(

    As i've mentioned before "I've made a deposit with $50 and played only with 20 cent bets but doesn't hit anything and the free spins come only as i was dwon to $ 1,60 but it pays nearly nothing (only 53 cent!)"

    This happens exactly on "Derby Dollars" although i've never experienced such a bad strake on this slot before!
     
  12. Jun 17, 2008
  13. pacers31

    pacers31 Banned Used - Repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Marketing Rep
    Location:
    Californication
    I've never played there, but want to. I just don't want a big document hassle if I want to cash out. Heard many good things about them here, but does anyone know specifically what I would have to send them to cashout? Also, do they take the visa netspend card??
     
  14. Jun 17, 2008
  15. Audioz

    Audioz Banned User

    Occupation:
    call center agent
    Location:
    Austria
    It's all written on their side!

    Copy of your passport, utility bill and the hand signed faxbackform with your accountname and/or Neteller/Moneybookers/Credit Card Number/Name
     
  16. Jun 17, 2008
  17. pacers31

    pacers31 Banned Used - Repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Marketing Rep
    Location:
    Californication
    I don't have a passport, not giving them a credit card #, do I have any chance of being paid?? Also, do they take netspend for deposits?? I'm not into the hoop jumping with the document game, that is what has kept me away so far from them. Now if they want my name and address to send the check, I don't mind that at all. We've all gone over the document thing so many times that I don't even want to get started! My ID and creditcards in no way ensure that I am who they think I am. If I go to the trouble to sign up and give my personal details on registration, that should suffice. There is no creditcard protection, only mutual trust or distrust. i.e., casino can tell you to f*** off, we're not paying, player can charge back and there is nothing the casino can do about it. Detente.
     
  18. Jun 17, 2008
  19. Audioz

    Audioz Banned User

    Occupation:
    call center agent
    Location:
    Austria
    I haven't said, that you MUST send them your credit card details, this is only an option, because it depends on which deposit method you'll use!

    So if you make a deposit with credit card, you must write certainly this details on your faxback form and sign it with your hand, so they know, that you're really the person, which made this deposit ;)

    The same happen, if you make a moneybookers deposit, then you must write your moneybookers emailaddress on the faxbackform and sign it.

    But you must only do this one time, so you must not send them for every deposit method one faxbackform, because the first one is certainly enough.

    you have no passport? i've never heard this before, that someone didn't have any passport, because every human should/must have one, or not?
    you can also send them a drivers licence copy or your identity card, this should also be enough :)

    if you don't want to do this, then it's your own pain, because on every casino normally you must do this, otherwise you won't get your money/withdrawals!

    I know only on Bodog, that you have not to send any documents to them, because i played there now about 2 years and made withdrawals also about $2,000 but were never asked about anything from them ;)
     
  20. Jun 17, 2008
  21. just play

    just play closed account

    Occupation:
    Director of Home Operations
    Location:
    USA
    You only need a passport if traveling out of United States, I do not have one and probably never will have one. For what reason would I need one if I will never travel out of the USA?


    As for the documents, it's just like other casinos, copies of this, copies of that, but I believe Inetbet is the one that makes you take your credit card and use a pencil and scratch in the numbers on a piece of paper :rolleyes:
     
  22. Jun 17, 2008
  23. pacers31

    pacers31 Banned Used - Repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Marketing Rep
    Location:
    Californication
    Not true audioz, the few places I play at never have asked for any documents. I don't have a passport because I don't travel outside the US, no need for one. Maybe where you're at it is common, but not in the US. Thanks for the info though, I'm still waiting for someone to tell me if they take netspend or not. Anybody know?? I know, I could check out the site for myself, but I'm kinda busy now and don't want to mess with it. Someone here knows for sure if it is a deposit option or not. Thanks
     
  24. Jun 17, 2008
  25. pacers31

    pacers31 Banned Used - Repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Marketing Rep
    Location:
    Californication
    Yeah JP, that's what I thought. Rubbings of a card somehow proves it is me I guess. Sounds like a load of crap to go through just to get my money. Still haven't heard a good reason for not getting this info before the first deposit, the hell with the "it will cost them business" excuse. They don't have a problem with taking potentially stolen cards, etc., but don't want to give it back just as easily as they took it. Sucks JP, do you know about the netspend thing??
     
  26. Jun 17, 2008
  27. Audioz

    Audioz Banned User

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    call center agent
    Location:
    Austria
    Sorry, but i doesn't live in the USA, so i can't know this, because we must have one to identify us, if we get an important letter, or something else which is very important and only for this specially person, but USA is certainly not Europe ;)

    You're too busy to read it on their webside, but you're not to busy, to ask us all this questions?

    Sorry, but i think, that you've got even too much help, because you know exactly where you can find it, but don't want to do this, because we are dumb enough to waste our time for you, or do you think, we have too much time for you!?

    If you've looked on their homepage you've found it within even 30 seconds, but you steal our time for nothing, because you're only too tired for searching?
     
  28. Jun 17, 2008
  29. just play

    just play closed account

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    Director of Home Operations
    Location:
    USA
    Why can't you just use your drivers licence? Yes USA is certainly not Europe ;)


    Pacers, I believe you can use Netspend.
     
  30. Jun 17, 2008
  31. Audioz

    Audioz Banned User

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    call center agent
    Location:
    Austria
    I can certainly use it also, but there are also things, on which i can't use my drivers license only, or as an example, if you'll marry, then you need also your passport ;)

    But this have now nothing to do with this thread :D
     
  32. Jun 17, 2008
  33. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

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    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    yes you can use netspend...yes you can use wired plastic as thats what i use to deposit there with:)as being from the U.S , we are limited to casinos and im just glad inetbet has the reputation it does and they pay fast, i know , i hit 2 r/j there in april and i was paid within hours, thus being the reason im so fast to praise them. we in the U.S should be glad we do have some decent casinos out there..................laurie:)
     
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  34. Jun 17, 2008
  35. jimdog

    jimdog Dormant account

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    This is fun. Maybe we should start WWIII
     
  36. Jun 17, 2008
  37. kakata

    kakata Banned User - hyper flamming PABnonaccred PABnoaccred PABaccred

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    miami fl
    I think Mike 031 is(was) back, although I use to like him and never had any argument, I see some similarity....am I wrong?;)
     
  38. Jun 17, 2008
  39. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    England
    2 Days "warm-down" period for Audioz and Pacers31. Come back and start that crap again and it'll be a lot longer!
     
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