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[RedKaos]

Never seen this in 5 years of online gambling.

583 spins at 2$ a bet on Achilles slot without triggering a bonus feature.

I will stay away definitevely from this crap.

I don't give a shit losing a few bucks but I'd prefer giving my money to the homeless instead of wasting it in a rogue operator.

 

[Audioz]

I don't want to call them rogue or anything else, but i've experienced also, that after there was fallung some Random Jackpots within a short time, their payout was always very low!

I've made a deposit with $50 and played only with 20 cent bets but doesn't hit anything and the free spins come only as i was dwon to $ 1,60 but it pays nearly nothing (only 53 cent!)

Certainly you can call it only pain, but it's always, when some higher RJs were fallen, like now, because there were very much RJs hit in the last few days (Enchanted Garden nearly $ 6,000, Hillibillies about $5,000, Outta This World about $ 6,000, Cleopatra's Gold about $11,000) and this happens all in the last 1 week, so maybe this is the reason, why we couldn't win there anything now, or it's really only a very bad pain for us all?

 

[LaurieJim]

rogued is a little harsh imo.i have won and i have lost at alot of casinos but imo inetbet still ranks among the top rtg casinos out there.it makes one feel crappy when they go so long without a feature but i dont think its just with inetbet alone, you just have had some bad luck, had you had won, the thread would have a different title, wouldnt it? i wish you luck on finding the perfect online casino.....................laurie

 

[Casinomeister]

...I don't give a shit losing a few bucks but I'd prefer giving my money to the homeless instead of wasting it in a rogue operator.

You're implying that the operator can switch on or off the win switch. Sorry, that's not the case. It's a bit unfair to point at iNetBet because you didn't hit a bonus round.

 

[Simmo!]

"Achilles" is medium/high variance so while 600 spins without a bonus is more than possible, it's typical of this type of slot. RTG's "Real Series" slots percentage settings take one of 3 forms. Based on memory, these are 97%, 95% and 93% set globally across all slots at a casino. BUT...bear in mind they all have progressive jackpots which will not only reduce the actual expected return in normal play, but will increase the variance - by how much on either I couldn't tell you. If you want regular bonus rounds, then go "low variance" with something like "Derby Dollars". And avoid "Rain Dance"

RTG controls the % settings, not the casino as some widely assume, and a casino has to request a change, justify it to RTG, then wait for around 4-6 months for it to be applied - if it is considered justified (don't ask me how they decide!!).

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[Audioz]

If you want regular bonus rounds, then go "low variance" with something like "Derby Dollars"

That's not really true, because even this slot pays out nothinh at the moment

As i've mentioned before "I've made a deposit with $50 and played only with 20 cent bets but doesn't hit anything and the free spins come only as i was dwon to $ 1,60 but it pays nearly nothing (only 53 cent!)"

This happens exactly on "Derby Dollars" although i've never experienced such a bad strake on this slot before!

 

[pacers31]

I've never played there, but want to. I just don't want a big document hassle if I want to cash out. Heard many good things about them here, but does anyone know specifically what I would have to send them to cashout? Also, do they take the visa netspend card??

 

[Audioz]

does anyone know specifically what I would have to send them to cashout?

It's all written on their side!

Copy of your passport, utility bill and the hand signed faxbackform with your accountname and/or Neteller/Moneybookers/Credit Card Number/Name

 

[pacers31]

I don't have a passport, not giving them a credit card #, do I have any chance of being paid?? Also, do they take netspend for deposits?? I'm not into the hoop jumping with the document game, that is what has kept me away so far from them. Now if they want my name and address to send the check, I don't mind that at all. We've all gone over the document thing so many times that I don't even want to get started! My ID and creditcards in no way ensure that I am who they think I am. If I go to the trouble to sign up and give my personal details on registration, that should suffice. There is no creditcard protection, only mutual trust or distrust. i.e., casino can tell you to f*** off, we're not paying, player can charge back and there is nothing the casino can do about it. Detente.

 

[Audioz]

I don't have a passport, not giving them a credit card #, do I have any chance of being paid??

I haven't said, that you MUST send them your credit card details, this is only an option, because it depends on which deposit method you'll use!

So if you make a deposit with credit card, you must write certainly this details on your faxback form and sign it with your hand, so they know, that you're really the person, which made this deposit

The same happen, if you make a moneybookers deposit, then you must write your moneybookers emailaddress on the faxbackform and sign it.

But you must only do this one time, so you must not send them for every deposit method one faxbackform, because the first one is certainly enough.

you have no passport? i've never heard this before, that someone didn't have any passport, because every human should/must have one, or not?
you can also send them a drivers licence copy or your identity card, this should also be enough

if you don't want to do this, then it's your own pain, because on every casino normally you must do this, otherwise you won't get your money/withdrawals!

I know only on Bodog, that you have not to send any documents to them, because i played there now about 2 years and made withdrawals also about $2,000 but were never asked about anything from them

 

[just play]

you have no passport? i've never heard this before, that someone didn't have any passport, because every human should/must have one, or not?

You only need a passport if traveling out of United States, I do not have one and probably never will have one. For what reason would I need one if I will never travel out of the USA?


As for the documents, it's just like other casinos, copies of this, copies of that, but I believe Inetbet is the one that makes you take your credit card and use a pencil and scratch in the numbers on a piece of paper

 

[pacers31]

Not true audioz, the few places I play at never have asked for any documents. I don't have a passport because I don't travel outside the US, no need for one. Maybe where you're at it is common, but not in the US. Thanks for the info though, I'm still waiting for someone to tell me if they take netspend or not. Anybody know?? I know, I could check out the site for myself, but I'm kinda busy now and don't want to mess with it. Someone here knows for sure if it is a deposit option or not. Thanks

 

[pacers31]

Yeah JP, that's what I thought. Rubbings of a card somehow proves it is me I guess. Sounds like a load of crap to go through just to get my money. Still haven't heard a good reason for not getting this info before the first deposit, the hell with the "it will cost them business" excuse. They don't have a problem with taking potentially stolen cards, etc., but don't want to give it back just as easily as they took it. Sucks JP, do you know about the netspend thing??

 

[Audioz]

You only need a passport if traveling out of United States, I do not have one and probably never will have one. For what reason would I need one if I will never travel out of the USA?

Sorry, but i doesn't live in the USA, so i can't know this, because we must have one to identify us, if we get an important letter, or something else which is very important and only for this specially person, but USA is certainly not Europe

I know, I could check out the site for myself, but I'm kinda busy now and don't want to mess with it.

You're too busy to read it on their webside, but you're not to busy, to ask us all this questions?

Sorry, but i think, that you've got even too much help, because you know exactly where you can find it, but don't want to do this, because we are dumb enough to waste our time for you, or do you think, we have too much time for you!?

If you've looked on their homepage you've found it within even 30 seconds, but you steal our time for nothing, because you're only too tired for searching?

 

[just play]

Sorry, but i doesn't live in the USA, so i can't know this, because we must have one to identify us, if we get an important letter, or something else which is very important and only for this specially person, but USA is certainly not Europe

Why can't you just use your drivers licence? Yes USA is certainly not Europe


Pacers, I believe you can use Netspend.

 

[Audioz]

Why can't you just use your drivers licence?

I can certainly use it also, but there are also things, on which i can't use my drivers license only, or as an example, if you'll marry, then you need also your passport

But this have now nothing to do with this thread

 

[LaurieJim]

yes you can use netspend...yes you can use wired plastic as thats what i use to deposit there withas being from the U.S , we are limited to casinos and im just glad inetbet has the reputation it does and they pay fast, i know , i hit 2 r/j there in april and i was paid within hours, thus being the reason im so fast to praise them. we in the U.S should be glad we do have some decent casinos out there..................laurie

 

[jimdog]

This is fun. Maybe we should start WWIII

 

[kakata]

I think Mike 031 is(was) back, although I use to like him and never had any argument, I see some similarity....am I wrong?

 

[Simmo!]

2 Days "warm-down" period for Audioz and Pacers31. Come back and start that crap again and it'll be a lot longer!

 

[paul02085]

"RTG controls the % settings, not the casino as some widely assume, and a casino has to request a change, justify it to RTG, then wait for around 4-6 months for it to be applied - if it is considered justified (don't ask me how they decide!!)."

If this is true i am sure it is only if they want to raise the payout %, not lower it. Its laughable to think that Michael Staw would require justification to lower payout %'s with his past actions "running" RTG.

 

[lauram]

I deposit daily so at best on one day i have at least 3 4 casinos with money in them. rtg mg rival and 3dice, now with saying that ive never seen bonus rounds or free spins in a lot of dif slots. Rtg aladdin for one. mg geesh dont even know where to start with that group have at least 20 never hit spins or a bonus round. Rival my first time for scary was this week for free spins never once seen a bonus or more then a 20 cent pay out to me in dogpound or that new islot3, 3dice ive hit them all some nice ones some so so ones. But i feel the same a lot of times when you hit nothing after nothing, starts to make you wonder if they have a way to tighten the slots up to play for last months jackpot hits.

 

[LaurieJim]

boy oh boy ,run to the store for a few things, come back and find two of your forum friends banned, i really didnt see anything wrong imo with what they posted, but ill keep quite, dont want to see my name in redsimmo does know best.........................laurie

 

[bb28]

Well.....well, well, my DSL was out for about 16 hours and I'm catching up and I see a couple of people got banned. I'm a little confused as to what for however. Seems pretty minor considering a while back in another thread pacers pretty much told me to f myself and I don't think he even got his hand slapped for that.

I know you not obligated to tell us Simmo, but why not enlighten us as to what the ban is for?????

 

[chuchu59]

"RTG controls the % settings, not the casino as some widely assume, and a casino has to request a change, justify it to RTG, then wait for around 4-6 months for it to be applied - if it is considered justified (don't ask me how they decide!!)."

If this is true i am sure it is only if they want to raise the payout %, not lower it. Its laughable to think that Michael Staw would require justification to lower payout %'s with his past actions "running" RTG.

I recall Inet stating their payout % is set at 95% although I am amused as to how I cannot reach even 50% of their WRs consistently for the Tuesday coupon at CM and low rolling at 0.20 per spin As for RTG itself, I dont trust them much especially since they distance themself from player issues, control % settings and if Inet is to be believed wont even supply me with the House Way for setting Paigow Poker (implying something to hide or incompetent?).

In another thread, I said I was not pleased with the outcomes of Baccarat games at Inet. I have played a total 122 hands, winning 50 (I always bet on Banker), losing 62 and tying 10 times. Payout is slightly less than 80%. The sample size is small but tilted heavily in favor of the casino but I dont have enough funds to try out a large samle. Given RTG's ability to set % in slots, I am inclined to believe they might be able to set the % in table games as well.

As for Inetbet, I am disappointed at their indifferent attitude whenever some concerns or complaints are raised especially in the last year or so. If you have adverse comments on them in this forum, they are unhappy about it and tell you it shouldnt say these things in public. If you write to them, their replies just make you sick. Frankly, other than paying out promptly, they are simply at the bottom of the league when it comes to customer service so why bother with this casino. I hope Rushmore accepts MB soon so that couple with Club World, I can have at least 2 casinos to patronize.