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Always great to have somebody to educate others what is morally right or wrong.....
Report recommends £2 stake online, and lots of other measures....
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So do you think pubs and supermarkets are bad for causing misery when people get alcohol addiction?
This is a forum full of affiliates just like me why are you here?
I won't need to move or find a new job pal i have plenty of things going on and this is not the end for uk streamers.
Thanks for the concern though
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Yes, i think selling cigarettes, alcohol and making violent movies is horrible because they cause so much horror and misery to this world... So many things we do are terrible, we ruin whole planet with our actions, have to go to church again on Sunday
No need to make this another off topic thread about endless depate who is good and who is bad, guess everybody can decide if can live with themselves and what are doing without somebody coming to "educate" what is allowed and what's not, so maybe better you to start one more thread for that instead of ruining this one.
E;dit: One wise man once said "Opnions (like morale very sure is) is are like a**seholes, everybody have their own and thinking that everybody else should like yours is very stupid"
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Yes, i think selling cigarettes, alcohol and making violent movies is horrible because they cause so much horror and misery to this world... So many things we do are terrible, we ruin whole planet with our actions, have to go to church again on Sunday
No need to make this another off topic thread about endless depate who is good and who is bad, guess everybody can decide if can live with themselves and what are doing without somebody coming to "educate" what is allowed and what's not, so maybe better you to start one more thread for that instead of ruining this one.
E;dit: One wise man once said "Opnions (like morale very sure is) is are like a**seholes, everybody have their own and thinking that everybody else should like yours is very stupid"
Everybody likes my booty.
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In that report though they must have given consideration of this as a factor when they said:
"There should be increased protection against accessing unregulated gambling sites by enacting internet service provider and financial transaction blocking to unlicensed operators."
So possibly they'll reduce this loophole to their plans.
I'm against the £2 limit as it all seems a bit draconian, and problem gamblers who play slots [not roulette etc that's another issue this report seems to bypass] will still lose plenty at £2, therefore other controls will be needed which kind of negates the need for a strict £2 limit in the first place.
If prize caps come in too, basically replicating the fobt system, (maybe reduced rtp as well) they'll just removed half the excitement from big wins [250x at £2 I believe is the fobty jackpot] and play time...this possibly seems to be the plan, reading between the lines, take out 70% of the excitement/potential, add in some burdensome kyc procedures/nannying and hassle and viola the gambling problem is reduced as half the people don't bother anymore and go and find something else to do with their time and money.
In a way online gambling is a victim of it's own success, too many people for the govt's liking are doing it, too much money, which could be spent elsewhere in the ailing high street retailers, is leaving these shores, I'm sure that is also part of their thinking here with these mooted changes. I doubt though they'll intervene in the horse racing industry even if many are losing tonnes on horse racing bets, as the average punter is subsidising the whole show through gambling on races, which allows for the middle/upper class to still have their top class events and horses.
Edit: just to add I'm sure there is genuine concern from this committee and others about the issue of problem gamblers, gambling addiction etc...when people are committing suicide as a result of gambling related problems then as a country you have a problem that legislators can't ignore, but I'm sure the macro economic factors are not missed either, 5.6 billion is a lot of money; similar to amazon and the big coffee shop firms, the corporation tax being paid by online casino groups probably doesn't match the money being made. GVC holdings I believe own ladbrokes/coral for example and many other brands in online gambling, and I wonder how the tax is calculated for offshore firms like them.
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@Chipmonkz dont worry, always haters. Atleast you have enough care to pay attention and actually quickly remove stuff if its bad. And good luck with quitting smoking.
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There has been more than one tbh chip.
Bearing in mind it’s your ‘job’ more due diligence should have been done, not like your busy grafting your arse off 12 hours sweating so much you can’t click a mouse and check out properly whom you promote is it?..
no probs with you personally, your probably a nice guy so don’t take it personally.
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i won't
feels like I'm living rent-free in your head though pal.
Nothing personal mind
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Oh your not in my head. Someone of your clear size wouldn’t fit by a large stretch pal.i won't
feels like I'm living rent-free in your head though pal.
Nothing personal mind
All the best
hahahaha love it
keep dancing bro peace out
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I have to agree with playford, chip do you not remember the complete disaster of Toptally and you not bothering with any due dillegence and of course recently with the non Gamstop casino?
It takes 10 mins max to read the terms and conditions before the whoring and yet you have falied on numerous occasions to bother.
It takes 10 mins max to read the terms and conditions before the whoring and yet you have falied on numerous occasions to bother.
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More please!
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Oo, I loved that movie
That's Bruce Banter, right?
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Hush. glassheart is the only man in my life
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Well how crude for a Wednesday evening, sir I was having banter with a streamer I care dearly for and you have now turned this thread into some seedy oiled up anal extravaganza...
This just isn’t cricket...
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i won't
feels like I'm living rent-free in your head though pal.
Nothing personal mind
And people wonder why streamers are not viewed in a favourable light....
In all seriousness, I thought you were better than that. Looks like I made an error of judgement.
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No, thats the making jokes-man.
I think you are thinking about Bantman.
He is great friends with making jokes-man tho, so i can see how one would mix them up.
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Look guys, we get streaming is controversial (sometimes) and most of them aren't on the forum. So when we get one or two join and turn up to post replies to the continual attacks, whether justified or not, can we afford them the same standard of reply as other members. That works both ways.
The thread is about £2 max stakes, and it ain't just streamers who bet far higher than that. For every streamer, there's thousands of high rollers too.
If you want to make posts about streaming, there are numerous other threads specific to that subject. Yep, I also get the connection between £2 stakes and UK-based streaming. But that's a small part of the issue.
Keep it polite everybody or it's highly likely the CM Padlock will make an appearance.
Thank-you.
The thread is about £2 max stakes, and it ain't just streamers who bet far higher than that. For every streamer, there's thousands of high rollers too.
If you want to make posts about streaming, there are numerous other threads specific to that subject. Yep, I also get the connection between £2 stakes and UK-based streaming. But that's a small part of the issue.
Keep it polite everybody or it's highly likely the CM Padlock will make an appearance.
Thank-you.
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Pretty sure I was polite mate fully, it was more the replies I got that where not so polite but guess that’s ignored.
On a more happy note, was on your site earlier wanting to try some free play, it said not available to me as I reside in the uk..
anyway to play the slots on the site in demo?.
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I did say above 'it works both ways' as in people on both sides of the viewpoint's divide.
Yep, free play banned for UK IP's I'm afraid. I'm sure you know how to get around it lol...
Some sites will give you a drop-down to enter you DOB if from the UK, and seem to be getting away with it but I'm pretty sure that's not permitted in the spirit of things.
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Haha yeah I’ll use alternative methods mate and cheers for the reply.
Also you did say both sides, noted and respect that.
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Nah he’s been watching nick the pric..And people wonder why streamers are not viewed in a favourable light....
In all seriousness, I thought you were better than that. Looks like I made an error of judgement.
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That’s his idol
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Imagine Nick and Chip being out on a casual stroll, and then they run into Horseburger.
A fight of epic proportions would break out.
Im thinking something like this. Horseburger in purple.
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Horse is alive and well too, I've read some of his recent comments under youtube vids
I'm not greatly enamoured with the streamer brigade but he takes it to a galactic level of loathing, he's consistent and persistent I'll give him that...I dunno maybe he seems the harm to the public in a much stronger, clearer way than I can, so feels it's a moral mission he can't just forget about, regardless of forum bans for speaking his mind.
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Horse is alive and well too, I've read some of his recent comments under youtube vids
Yeah, he is on another level when it comes to not liking streamers.
Im not convinced his way of going about it is the right way to promote change tho.
You cant just threaten to cave heads in and burn schools down when met with other opinions.
Or i mean, you can, but i dont think it does much good. =)
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I concur, there's the art of subtle persuasion at one end and horseburger's sledge hammer approach at the other
But maybe I'm being too complacent and nice to streamers by not attacking them fiercely enough...who knows how many have been led astray by their antics and into the realms of dark despair by gambling losses/addiction which they didn't have before watching the streamers ?
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Oh is Chip buddies with Nickslots now?
That would explain the sudden increase in arrogance then.
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£5.8bn lost is £100 pp in the UK.
Not a great deal tbh when its put like that.
Not a great deal tbh when its put like that.
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Ban low RTP and reverse withdrawals, go easy on taxes (only a tax on net income), max bet 1% of balance, RTP shown on opening a game.
That is all the new regulations you need.
You need a lot more on financial markets and banks though! Its all gambling and its all rigged too.
And destroys everybody, not only the ones that play. I lost more than 100k after the 2008 crisis and not because of investments going bad. Simply lost income because of the austerity that followed.
I dont hate the idea, but maybe 5% of your balance or if you insist at 1% then it works on a sliding scale. Infact the more i think about it, you may as well just put the £2 spins in!
For me, make it simple. EVERYONE has to do a SOW - the limits are then applied sensibly against that. I've got nothing to hide. Infact, i done my balls in as a kid, and now i play with in my means, if it means some other idiot 20 y/o doesnt put himself into debt, then thats a good thing.
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I really don't think it's limited to the UK...
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Yes but you learned from the experience.
Once you start wrapping everything in cotton wool, you breed a generation of people detached from the actual realities of the world. Whilst there should be safeguards available, I 100% believe that it should be down to the individual to implement these safe guards- whether that be deposit limits, loss limits, max bet limits or even full exclusion.
People have to take some responsibility for their own actions. People have to want to get better, not be coerced to. The vast majority of people will hit that 'eureka!' moment at some point- the point they realise they need help.
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gave the whole thing the once over, good ideas and bad ideas, Why does it keep excluding the National Lottery from this? this whole thing angers me so much, isnt there a pro gambling lobby group to counter all this out there? My child can go out today and decide she wants to be fifteen genders in a day but I wont be allowed to bet more than £2 at a time? I can walk into an ASDA, morrisions or coop and be hit with thousands of advertsing showing what great deals they have and spend as much as I want but I cant win more than £500? block credit cards? why bother doing that? oh wait lets not get into debt over a £100 deposit into my casino when I can just get into £500 of debt buying a junk car instead Hmmm makes so much sense. Its My money I should be allowed to spend it any way I like if I want to spunk it all away at a casino then thats my choice. if I want to spend it on a rug for the hall thats my choice. this is nothing about protecting people from harm, those people will always find a way regardless, this is about my freedoms as a person being taken away from me. Ian Duncan Smith what a prat he is he has always been the same typical tory.
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Love Bandit I don't care how much he bets £100 or £1 a spin his fun to watch him and the risk he takes, and who he deals with losses, and very important how much advice it gives to players not to bet big if you can't afford, we all love to win millions after see Bandit bet like £40 or £100 and he doesn't really win big on bonus,yes he got big win on reel king gamble option same time he lost big time, for players like Bandit I don't think it will make any difference on cap £2, If he can afford to lose £30k £40k in 1-2hrs video I am sure he has no problem to fly to Las Vegas and bet as much he likes and hight bet like him for sure he will get free hotel drinks and food for free, all talk about bandit how much it spends but i so lot of streames when they get down to the last £500 the start playing roulette £300-£500 a spin and preying to god to land on their no 
p.s I think BTG target Bandit on their latest game millionaire mystery box with a gambling option
his latest video on £15 and £40 bet his funny when it gets big wins
p.s I think BTG target Bandit on their latest game millionaire mystery box with a gambling optionhis latest video on £15 and £40 bet his funny when it gets big wins
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lol way we get target if casinos pay high tax lol we not responsible for casinos tax if they can't afford close down simple, but they make millions and they try to be more greedy and bs hight tax, I think all casinos owners are ex-criminals they dont care for no one they just try to make fast $$$Yet casino's have to reduce RTP due to higher taxes because otherwise they won't have enough profit
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I don't think £2 cap is much of problem if they make £2 cap and still let casinos give you an option to gamble your win you lose all you win in 1 click :axeman2: gamble option should get removed and every game should have min win on bonus or extra 10 spins like you get on prime is abet stupid spending so much to get 1 bonus and you walk away with 5x or 10x win or play for 2 hrs on Lil Devil to get big bonus and you walk away with 5x win
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