New Slot Announcement Red Tiger's First Megaways slot - Mystery Reels

[Supababe]

It plays nicely so it seems:
20p stakes

 

[Harry_BKK]

Ok, watching a streamer he got the message saying they changed the RTP from 96 - 98% on this slot.

Checking Rizk this is indeed true, now this is massive.

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Best megaways slot then?

OK, maybe. I still haven't heard back from their chap, but he said he'd look into it. It's just that I think that's exceptionally high, 1429 Uncharted Seas high nearly, that's a slot excluded from bonus play as a result. If it does turn out to be that high, it's exceptional.

I looked into this a little.

The casinos offering the game via the NYX Interactive / SG Digital platform have it with 98.06% (GiG Group, MT Secure Trade Whitelabels, Slotsmillion, Unibet Group, Mr Green, Casino Heroes, LeoVegas, Casumo)
Those offering it via the Relax / Oryx platforms have it on 96.18%. (VS, Betsson Group)

And FYI, it can be worse: Everymatrix Casinos, Genesis Group (Vegas Hero, Sloty, Casino Cruise, Spinit, Casino Joy etc) run it at 95.19%.

Can't check Aspire Global and Nektan casinos as they won't allow Fun Play.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The casinos offering the game via te NYX Interactive / SG Digital platform have it with 98.06% (GiG Group, MT Secure Trade Whitelabels, Slotsmillion, Unibet Group, Mr Green, Casino Heroes, LeoVegas, Casumo)

This is at LeoVegas for me, 96.24% with a max win of 5000x bet, whereas in your screenshot there Harry you've got 10000x bet.

How many versions of this bloody thing are out there?

EDIT - Sorry I'm being dumb, that's the non-Megaways version, the Megaways version is indeed 98.06% at LeoVegas with a 10000x stake top prize.

 

[Harry_BKK]

This is at LeoVegas for me, 96.24% with a max win of 5000x bet, whereas in your screenshot there Harry you've got 10000x bet.

How many versions of this bloody thing are out there?

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Are you looking at Mystery Reels or Mystery Reels Megaways?

Mystery Reels max win is 5,000x bet, Mystery Reels Megaways is 10,000x bet.

I loaded Mystery Reels Megaways in Fun Mode on LeoVegas with a German IP and got the 98.06%.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Are you looking at Mystery Reels or Mystery Reels Megaways?

Mystery Reels max win is 5,000x bet, Mystery Reels Megaways is 10,000x bet.

I loaded Mystery Reels Megaways in Fun Mode on LeoVegas with a German IP and got the 98.06%.

Sorry Harry yes I was being dumb! I've just corrected my post above.

The game is indeed at 98.06% at LeoVegas and Unibet.

Can confirm the lower RTP at Videoslots as well. (96.18%)

That's a huge difference in house edge, the house edge is 100% higher on the 96.18% maths model, and 150% higher on the lowest!

 

[Harry_BKK]

Sorry Harry yes I was being dumb! I've just corrected my post above.

The game is indeed at 98.06% at LeoVegas and Unibet.

Can confirm the lower RTP at Videoslots as well. (96.18%)

That's a huge difference in house edge, the house edge is 100% higher on the 96.18% maths model, and 150% higher on the lowest!

No worries

Have you got accounts with any of the gazillion Nektan or Caddell sites? They only allow fun mode play after registering an account, hence, I couldn't find out.

Would be interesting to know which version UK focussed casinos are using (higher taxes and cost and all that ). AFAIK, Aspire Global does not offer Red Tiger Games to their White Labels.

 

[dunover]

There you go - an honest provider although I'm sure line 1 of this reply will have foil flying....

"Morning Daz, no it’s not a typo. It was done due to the reason that most players lose out on “perfect strategy” to gamble free spins.
We don’t have such term as TRTP since we offer different versions to our operators.
This change has been done to improve the player experience."

 

[mickekneg]

I looked into this a little.

The casinos offering the game via the NYX Interactive / SG Digital platform have it with 98.06% (GiG Group, MT Secure Trade Whitelabels, Slotsmillion, Unibet Group, Mr Green, Casino Heroes, LeoVegas, Casumo)
Those offering it via the Relax / Oryx platforms have it on 96.18%. (VS, Betsson Group)

And FYI, it can be worse: Everymatrix Casinos, Genesis Group (Vegas Hero, Sloty, Casino Cruise, Spinit, Casino Joy etc) run it at 95.19%.

Can't check Aspire Global and Nektan casinos as they won't allow Fun Play.

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FYI, Red Tiger is not integrated through either NYX or Relax or Oryx to get to any of the operators you listed, Red Tiger is directly integrated with every single one of those operators.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

So how exactly do we interpret the 'best gamble strategy' then?

From looking at your video dunover, it means you'll always need to gamble at least once but stop if you hit the 20, but then how would you get to 30? Since you'd already have collected at 20 according to the strategy. It's good that you always get a bonus at least, even if you lose the gamble on the first spin.

98.06% is a really solid RTP, wouldn't rule out firing this one up for some real money play.

 

[Harry_BKK]

FYI, Red Tiger is not integrated through either NYX or Relax or Oryx to get to any of the operators you listed, Red Tiger is directly integrated with every single one of those operators.

I can play Red Tiger Games for real money at any casino with my home IP, except at those who are using NYX/SG Digital as aggregator platform. E.g. I can't play Red Tiger at Rizk for exactly that reason, that is what I was told by their CS.

How do you explain this difference then? Red Tiger does not have a IOM licence.

From the Red Tiger website:



From Betsson:

 

[dunover]

So how exactly do we interpret the 'best gamble strategy' then?

From looking at your video dunover, it means you'll always need to gamble at least once but stop if you hit the 20, but then how would you get to 30? Since you'd already have collected at 20 according to the strategy. It's good that you always get a bonus at least, even if you lose the gamble on the first spin.

98.06% is a really solid RTP, wouldn't rule out firing this one up for some real money play.

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I believe the IOM can play UKGC games, but I'm not 100% sure?
Anyway, to clarify I was saying that IF you ever hit a 20 or 30, take it! That's a 1/10 chance on any given wheel. You wouldn't realistically gamble 20 to 30, the 30 would only arise if you successfully gambled the first wheel to 12 (not the 20!) and then viewed the second wheel which had 30, 18 spins, or 8 if you lost. Therefore if you already had 20 it wouldn't be a sensible risk at all. It's the same for the 40 - had you had 2 successful gambles on the first 2 wheels to 12 and then 18 respectively, here you can gamble your 18 spins for either 9, 24 or 40 spins.
So the optimum strategy will always be to collect the 20 or 30 if lucky enough to hit them.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

We are both a licensing jurisdiction but also playing UKGC licensed games/casinos here is fine.

TBH it's a bit muddy, when I play at Videoslots they geolocate me to the Isle of Man and (for example) I can't play NetEnt slots because they're not available in my territory. But I can fire up LeoVegas on the same PC/browser/IP, and they just put me in the UK so I can play NetEnt slots.

3Dice works fine for me, but a mate in the UK tried to play there and got blocked as he's on a UK IP.

As for the wheel, thanks for clearing that up dunover, so in essence you always gamble whatever you have but the second you hit a 20 or 30, just collect. Nice and simple!

I think I'll give this one a go for real, I quite enjoyed my extended session at LeoVegas the other week (not just the monster win but the follow on session the day after as well). Right up until my account got locked out, that is.....

 

[Supababe]

No worries

Have you got accounts with any of the gazillion Nektan or Caddell sites? They only allow fun mode play after registering an account, hence, I couldn't find out.

Would be interesting to know which version UK focussed casinos are using (higher taxes and cost and all that ). AFAIK, Aspire Global does not offer Red Tiger Games to their White Labels.

I’ve loaded up a site but can’t find the data for the RTP. Where should I look? I’ve tried to pay table

 

[dunover]

We are both a licensing jurisdiction but also playing UKGC licensed games/casinos here is fine.

TBH it's a bit muddy, when I play at Videoslots they geolocate me to the Isle of Man and (for example) I can't play NetEnt slots because they're not available in my territory. But I can fire up LeoVegas on the same PC/browser/IP, and they just put me in the UK so I can play NetEnt slots.

3Dice works fine for me, but a mate in the UK tried to play there and got blocked as he's on a UK IP.

As for the wheel, thanks for clearing that up dunover, so in essence you always gamble whatever you have but the second you hit a 20 or 30, just collect. Nice and simple!

I think I'll give this one a go for real, I quite enjoyed my extended session at LeoVegas the other week (not just the monster win but the follow on session the day after as well). Right up until my account got locked out, that is.....

I wouldn't say ALWAYS gamble, i.e. the 8 spins you initially get. Having said that, I did notice during my extensive demo play that when you lose the 8 spins and get merely 4, you get a surprising amount of retriggers when the 4 spin round plays out.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I’ve loaded up a site but can’t find the data for the RTP. Where should I look? I’ve tried to pay table

It says on top of the pay table "Help"

 

[Supababe]

It says on top of the pay table "Help"

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Got it to work!

 

[Harry_BKK]

Got it to work!

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Which casino is that please?

 

[Supababe]

Which casino is that please?

21.co.uk

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'd give playing it there a miss then, there are UK facing casinos running it at 98.06%

 

[Harry_BKK]

21.co.uk

I'd give playing it there a miss then, there are UK facing casinos running it at 98.06%

Fun fact is that 21.co.uk is part of LeoVegas. They run it at the high RTP on their main site while on the sites they recently bought it is offered at the lowest RTP.

 

[Supababe]

21prive is also:

 

[Harry_BKK]

21prive is also:
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That is operated by WhiteHat Gaming/Caddell. Yet another ton of white label casinos at the medium RTP.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Fun fact is that 21.co.uk is part of LeoVegas. They run it at the high RTP on their main site while on the sites they recently bought it is offered at the lowest RTP.

Sheesh, so even casinos in the same group can be running it at different percentages? Awesome......

95.19% to 98.06% is a seriously substantial difference in the house edge.

 

[mickekneg]

I can play Red Tiger Games for real money at any casino with my home IP, except at those who are using NYX/SG Digital as aggregator platform. E.g. I can't play Red Tiger at Rizk for exactly that reason, that is what I was told by their CS.

How do you explain this difference then? Red Tiger does not have a IOM licence.

From the Red Tiger website:

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From Betsson:

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I wouldn't know why some operators decide to IP block the country you're playing from and some doesn't, but, if you look inside the iframe of a game that is supplied through NYX, you'd get something like this (Rizk used as an example):

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

When you look inside the iframe of a Red Tiger game on Rizk, you get a Red Tiger launch URL (looks very similar on all websites where Red Tiger has direct integrations, at least where I checked): Outdated URL (Invalid)

Likewise, if you launch a game that is supplied through Relax, you get a lunch URL that looks something like this:

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

You can do similar tests on any website and get similar results (probably with minor deviations based on the underlying technology of certain aggregators).

 

[Harry_BKK]

I wouldn't know why some operators decide to IP block the country you're playing from and some doesn't, but, if you look inside the iframe of a game that is supplied through NYX, you'd get something like this (Rizk used as an example):

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

When you look inside the iframe of a Red Tiger game on Rizk, you get a Red Tiger launch URL (looks very similar on all websites where Red Tiger has direct integrations, at least where I checked): Outdated URL (Invalid)

Likewise, if you launch a game that is supplied through Relax, you get a lunch URL that looks something like this:

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

You can do similar tests on any website and get similar results (probably with minor deviations based on the underlying technology of certain aggregators).

OK, I should have look properly as I usually do. Instead I assumed that because Rizk does not allow me to play Red Tiger, that it is connected to the NYX issue. Also to my knowledge (I might be wrong), Relax and Oryx supply games to both, Betsson and Videoslots. Hence, I made some assumptions without looking properly.

Anyway, here's how the Red Tiger Games load on some sites:

- GiG, MT SecureTrade - supplied by iGamingCloud
- Genesis Group - supplied by Everymatrix to Genesis server
- Videoslots - own server
- Betsson - own server