SlotGrinder

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I'm not usually one to moan about slots and I have lost a LOT on them over the years but these slots take the feature tease to a whole new (unacceptable) level imo . I was playing Magic Gate and in that game the screen shakes and you sometimes get a random feature . Well I deposited £500 playing £2-£4 stakes and got 10 of these teases in a row with not one random feature being awarded . It's not like the teases are every other spin either . Sometimes you have to wait 20+ spins in between them . Add to that the fact that the 3 scatter type bonuses/freespins literally NEVER come in (plenty of teases for those too) and any base game win above 2x is very rare then altogether you have a pretty ridiculous game here imo
I have played plenty of other Red Tiger games too and find the same story of excessive teasing with the random features and absolutey ridiculous teasing with the scatter freespins or bonuses . Yes if these games are playing hot then they are fun but the base games very rarely pay and I find most of the time they are just huge troll games
What's your experience with these games ? Do you agree that they take the bonus tease too far ? I think the provider should tone it down a bit . Also I believe the RTP is fairly low on these games like close to 95%
 

BrianGhattas

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Red Tiger slots can be extremely frustrating for sure. They are very similar to Rigdrasil (Yggdrasil) as the spins play more like lottery tickets than slots. I've seen many teases and line hits that I know I saw several spins before. It's always one bad reel away from a massive hit. Every single machine plays the same; I have yet to see something different from them. They are feast or famine. I've had some decent hits on them but it's the teases and bullshit spins that resonates more.

This is our future now.
 

Jono777

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Very limited experience of these slots, mostly for the reason you describe.

Have to agree on the excessive 'tease' thing for sure. Happened about 15-20 times during my last (very brief) spell and all 15-20 resulted in nothing other than a dead spin :eek::confused:
 

lotusch

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Haven't played them, also because the reasons already stated above.
That kind of slots do not appeal to me at all and to be honest, I am not fond of all these new slot providers coming out of the blue
with their slots which play and act doubtful the least to say.

I learned my lesson when I played Wazdan slots on Energy Casino, never heard of them but decided to give them a try and boy oh boy, was I screwed.
1500 quid on one and the same Wazdan slot with only 1x FS which paid 16x bet or so. :D:D
That kind of slots should be banned, how they pass the tests, God only knows.

I rather stick to my trusted list WMS, Netent, Novomatic, Aristocrat, MGS, Barcrest.

Even Play 'n Go has serious doubts from my side now since the news that they can deliver slots with an altered RTP%.
 

slotsoffun

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I've had some decent hits on a fair few Red Tiger - Lucky Wizard, Lucky Halloween, Lucky Valentine, Rainbow Jackpots, Jingle Bells, Temple of Gold, Phoenix Rising etc.

Well, not massive £900 is probably my biggest single hit but at £4 and that was on Rainbow Jackpots. I've hit the x700 in Lucky Bonus on Lucky Wizard but is was only on £1 playing with VS cash back. So a x700 times bet.

It must be the timing as I've had some good runs over an hour or two and then I've had some awful runs over the same timeframe, and I play turbo spin (hold space bar). When I spin like that I'd assume I'd pull a decent hit somewhere but in truth I can drain £1000 at £2 a spin in no time and probably more often than reaching a £1000 at the same rate.

It was only this Monday I was at £1600 balance and after a quick stint on Rainbow Jackpots I withdraw £375 and lost the rest. Greed, maybe but I'd expect to have a feature or two and not the same teasers and 'all wilds / high symbols bar one real' time and time again. That bloody annoys me and shows something dodgy going on. Constant spins of 'almost a massive win'.

What really, really bugs me is how you're notified about a feature Big, Mega or Super Mega win with approx 4 spins of the feature. That's how we know features are pre determined, the feature is randomly won by the player depending when they spin compared to another player, but the feature itself is pre determined.

I assume I'm not the only one who watches for the VS pop up rather than watching the feature play out. 'What, another 'Big Win', FFS!!!'
 

lotusch

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Constant spins of 'almost a massive win'.


If that is the case, again the question arises, are slots really random? ;)
If the same "almost" a big win combinations keep appearing on the reels ,that means other combinations on the reel strips are not coming out as often or not at all just so the slot keeps giving these teasing spins.
 

aceking123

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Poorly produced mechanics from base game , i think me & another player pointed out the same thing as you )

Base game so many close call hits but just never connects to make it worth while , magic gate well im must of had at least 30 chances for third scatter but again it just doesn't show , if this was around 1-10 i could understand but it just doesn't.

They mainly pay around 4-40x bet without getting anywhere most of my losses have been on these slots, shame i thought after testing in practice & having some great wins including many good features ,upon playing in real play it seems as if im playing a totally different game & mechanics behind it.

Pity they could of been very good slots.
 

SlotGrinder

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I've had some decent hits on a fair few Red Tiger - Lucky Wizard, Lucky Halloween, Lucky Valentine, Rainbow Jackpots, Jingle Bells, Temple of Gold, Phoenix Rising etc.

Well, not massive £900 is probably my biggest single hit but at £4 and that was on Rainbow Jackpots. I've hit the x700 in Lucky Bonus on Lucky Wizard but is was only on £1 playing with VS cash back. So a x700 times bet.

It must be the timing as I've had some good runs over an hour or two and then I've had some awful runs over the same timeframe, and I play turbo spin (hold space bar). When I spin like that I'd assume I'd pull a decent hit somewhere but in truth I can drain £1000 at £2 a spin in no time and probably more often than reaching a £1000 at the same rate.

It was only this Monday I was at £1600 balance and after a quick stint on Rainbow Jackpots I withdraw £375 and lost the rest. Greed, maybe but I'd expect to have a feature or two and not the same teasers and 'all wilds / high symbols bar one real' time and time again. That bloody annoys me and shows something dodgy going on. Constant spins of 'almost a massive win'.

What really, really bugs me is how you're notified about a feature Big, Mega or Super Mega win with approx 4 spins of the feature. That's how we know features are pre determined, the feature is randomly won by the player depending when they spin compared to another player, but the feature itself is pre determined.

I assume I'm not the only one who watches for the VS pop up rather than watching the feature play out. 'What, another 'Big Win', FFS!!!'

Yes they CAN pay but like you say if you use that insane fast spins with space bar and you can really appreciate just how many teases and "near misses" these games give you whilst draining your balance and giving you the odd 3 or 4oak of 10s Js Qs etc which pay 2x at most . I would say they definitely have a case to answer against that law that says you can't make a slot deliberately look like it almost hit the jackpot all the time . Having a random feature "tease" is ok if the odds of at least getting the feature are 50/50 I would say but on these games I swear it's about 20% chance of getting the random feature and 80% just a tease so then it basically just becomes false as in "oh look you nearly won , have another spin.."
 

lockinlove

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I stay away from them. I played one last week and my rtp after 100 spins was 7%. I was playing $1 a spin after 100 spins I lost $93. I had 11 teases beween the freespins and the screen changing color.

Just as I was about to leave I hit just over 100x where I broke even on the slots or up a bit.

I learned my lesson Im not doing that ever again.

And its not the first time this happened either.
 

slotsoffun

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If that is the case, again the question arises, are slots really random? ;)
If the same "almost" a big win combinations keep appearing on the reels ,that means other combinations on the reel strips are not coming out as often or not at all just so the slot keeps giving these teasing spins.

Oh it's defo the case and must raise some eyebrows.

Wild and High Symbols stacks constantly, and I mean 'constantly' - but one reel breaks the big win. Yet when that cheeky, chuffing Leprechaun heaves out a wild, gold clover or horse shoe, the win rarely exceeds 4 x the bet. Yes I've had many x200 and up, but weighing up the 'almost massive wins' against a feature with 'shit winds' is uncanny.

I also hit 50 Mega Spins on £2 (after 10's of hours and days of play), it whips through and is again pre-determined, VS notified of Super Big Win within 10 spins - the result, £147 and barely a super big win at all.

Beer Bonus is usually x50 to x100 so when I hit Triple Beer Bonus (about 5 times now IIRC) I get peeved when the amounts for each pint are much less that the basic feature and I still hit x50 to x100.

Same for Cupid in Lucky Valentine features, Lucky Halloween and his Pumpkin Heads, Santa pressies in Jingle Bells etc etc.

And the multiplier features are the same. X10 will be low symbols and x3 might POSSIBLY be something half decent.

I say the same thing time and time again - if it's truely random, developers should publicise the algorithms and casinos would publish TRUE takings and payouts. Not figures showing players winning, say £35,000 on a particular slot in a particular months when in truth, the player wagered nearly as much over that month and that winning amount is an accumulation of wins.

You don't see lotteries cloaking the balls being drawn, it's random.

Hmmm, I'm starting to rant.
 

Playford7

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Played a bit, and seen decent wins.
Seems to either be on the pay... or as dead as dunovers happiness after a rhino session.
Not games I choose to play or will play a lot. Maybe 50 spins here or there.
Find them all just clones of each other.
I'll happily stick to netent and mg, occasionally novo, depending where I'm playing at the time.
As for being random, well I'm a huge advocate of there totally random, but..after reading a lot of similar things, and experiencing certain things myself.....my opinion is now open minded :)
 

Zuguri

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I tried a little Red Tiger gaming slots though I didn't get good experience, and don't have any will to play there exactly of the same issue as you
 

floopyzicer

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Past 4 months or something i played this slots a lot . Whenever i had a healthy bankroll from some other slots i will always loose my entire bankrolls on this slots , from min bet up to 2euro bets i never won more than 80x even with features free spins whatever they offer , how the hell did they got the licence for online gambling.
 

me_and_ed

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Terrible payouts, all slots pretty much the same, I thought there was hope when they first came on the scene......now just hopeless
 

deadoralive23

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When they first released they were great, i would win all the time, Dragons Luck, Epic Journey, almost any game from red tiger would pay out very well.
Now its a different story, they are absolutely shit!
Honestly, its so obvious that they have adjusted the payouts of big wins now that they have attracted a decent amount of idiots who play around with this software.
 

Jasminebed

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I quite recently went to play Jingle Bells, got a pop-up the paytable had changed. Since I had not a screenshot of the previous paytable, nor have it committed to memory despite a few thousand spins over the past couple of years, I just took a few spins and left. At the time I tried to find the original post from Dan that would have listed RTP to see if it changed or not, but that thread is simply too massive.
 

bluebirdy

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I quite recently went to play Jingle Bells, got a pop-up the paytable had changed. Since I had not a screenshot of the previous paytable, nor have it committed to memory despite a few thousand spins over the past couple of years, I just took a few spins and left. At the time I tried to find the original post from Dan that would have listed RTP to see if it changed or not, but that thread is simply too massive.

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Sonict

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this new one is great guys! gave me free spins on 3rd or 4th spin! 50 of them :eek:

Really enjoyable slot has elements of gonzo, wishmaster and nudge to make wins in bonus. +200x!

Funny that you say this... I got a bonus on 40 cents on this game with 40 freespins and a few of each of the small features and ended up winning $96+! It does has potential and it can be fun.

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The screenshot below shows the final outcome. :)

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steveh35

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I have been playing these at small stakes for last few weeks and yesterday I won £64 at 20p, yes they will drain your balance but as with all slots like Book Of Dead or Pink elephants you are looking for that one win, once you get it move on.
 
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