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Guy looks like he's been on benefits for 10 yrs and never changed clothes...
Fucking Roobet and Pragmatic bullshit, it's really getting to me slowly but surely.

The other day i saw a guy on another forum, that was playing there too, but his 'approach' was the 20c. bet with 'only' 500-ish balance getting a 23Kx on San Quentin (ofc Bonusbuy x2000) and i'm convinced it's exactly made to be more 'believable'

Of course zero proof, but simply seeing them pop up on Twitch, Youtube and some forums over the past months, just my gut telling me it's a huge campaign. And i find this really annoying, worrying and sickening, all at the same time...

I was one of the few here (and other forums) that reminded peeps about the fact that Pragmatic used to be Topgame. At least that has been picked up by some more members, and i really hope people will add 1+1 and at least stop promoting or even playing at both the Provider, and such Casinos as above. The whole N1 group was also dodgy to me from the start. I kept 'quiet' mostly because i had hope that Homerbert actually knew what he was doing, and his word was legit (could still be, he could have been led on, for sure, at least for a good while) but it all seems to be falling apart at the seams lately.

Maybe weird i'm connecting these dots, just saying dodgy casinos, heavily promoting big money streamers, or fake small ones, complaints popping up everywhere, etc.

Mark my words, something is going to go tits up soon, I predict there will be a scandal of sorts with either Pragmatic/Roobet and the likes, Evolution and/or Streamers. I also have suspicions about some Twitch, Gleam.IO, Discord and such, i really suspect there's a little maffia type thing going on, just can't put my finger on it yet...

Maybe the Corona is just getting to me, and i should just smoke a huge joint and forget about it...

Just wanted to at least spit it out, because it has been bothering me for quite some time now.
Regardless of everything i just posted, the one thing that's for sure, is that i really want the handful of 'unreal' streamers to fob off, and get a fckn real job. They are spreading like the plague!
 
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Guy looks like he's been on benefits for 10 yrs and never changed clothes...
Fucking Roobet and Pragmatic bullshit, it's really getting to me slowly but surely.

The other day i saw a guy on another forum, that was playing there too, but his 'approach' was the 20c. bet with 'only' 500-ish balance getting a 23Kx on San Quentin (ofc Bonusbuy x2000) and i'm convinced it's exactly made to be more 'believable'

Of course zero proof, but simply seeing them pop up on Twitch, Youtube and some forums over the past months, just my gut telling me it's a huge campaign. And i find this really annoying, worrying and sickening, all at the same time...

I was one of the few here (and other forums) that reminded peeps about the fact that Pragmatic used to be Topgame. At least that has been picked up by some more members, and i really hope people will add 1+1 and at least stop promoting or even playing at both the Provider, and such Casinos as above. The whole N1 group was also dodgy to me from the start. I kept 'quiet' mostly because i had hope that Homerbert actually knew what he was doing, and his word was legit (could still be, he could have been led on, for sure, at least for a good while) but it all seems to be falling apart at the seems lately.

Maybe weird i'm connecting these dots, just saying dodgy casinos, heavily promoting big money streamers, or fake small ones, complaints popping up everywhere, etc.

Mark my words, something is going to go tits up soon, I predict there will be a scandal of sorts with either Pragmatic/Roobet and the likes, Evolution and/or Streamers. I also have suspicions about some Twitch, Gleam.IO, Discord and such, i really suspect there's a little maffia type thing going on, just can't put my finger on it yet...

Maybe the Corona is just getting to me, and i should just smoke a huge joint and forget about it...

Just wanted to at least spit it out, because it has been bothering me for quite some time now.
Regardless of everything i just posted, the one thing that's for sure, is that i really want the handful of 'unreal' streamers to fob off, and get a fckn real job. They are spreading like the plague!
I've always known their dodgy past, I've barely played any of their games, in fact be surprised if I've staked more than £50 on them since they started.
They are dodgy as hell, and once they start getting called out, run away, just as they have from here. I'm quite surprised Bryan hasn't been hit with a legal notice yet as thats what they tend to do when people tell the truth about them and their ownership etc.
No matter how they imply things, they DO pay streamers to play their games. There is plenty of evidence of that littered round forums and suchlike.
Now they may be paying people for promotional purposes, I don't have a problem with that, but when the streamers are playing with fake funds, then I do. Look at Foss for example, rarely plays anything other than Pragmatic Play. Plays the odd Nolimit slot at $1 stakes or there abouts. DOA2 seen him play that at $9. PP $300 spins. But not spins, $30000 bonus buys. Yeah pure coincidence that the one slot provider everyone knows pays streamers is the one provider he plays at stupidly high stakes. Plenty of others out there too.
N1 are just as bad, by coming on here, lying about that certain streamer playing with real funds. That is obvious, again, by the way PP were called out about using his win in promotional posts on facebook, then removing it straight away. If it were legit then why would they remove it. How the hell they are accredited is beyond me. No rep. Multitude of complaints. Allowing that twat streamer to play there and lying about it being real funds.
 

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Streamers.. :laugh:

I thought he was the one that made no secret of the fact it's 'fake' money? I thought the whole account was a parody in a way?

Never watched him, but that's what I got told. Apparently he was honest about the whole thing from the start. I assumed that's why his name is what it is on Twitch.
 

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I thought he was the one that made no secret of the fact it's 'fake' money? I thought the whole account was a parody in a way?

Never watched him, but that's what I got told. Apparently he was honest about the whole thing from the start. I assumed that's why his name is what it is on Twitch.
I now need to know the username.
I think i got that thing that killed the cat.
 

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I thought he was the one that made no secret of the fact it's 'fake' money? I thought the whole account was a parody in a way?

Never watched him, but that's what I got told. Apparently he was honest about the whole thing from the start. I assumed that's why his name is what it is on Twitch.
I don't know anything about him other than a couple videos I've come across of his when looking up new games that were announced. I remembered this video when I looked up Madame Megaways one day. I also think he's American? Anyways, ridiculous.
 

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We want to make clear that we never gave and will never give test accounts to streamers. We understand your concerns about “fake streamers” not playing with real money, but we do not have control of it since the commercial agreements are always between Casinos and Streamers. We have no insight on the deposits and if they are real or not, no Game Provider does.
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My questions are if you have ever deducted specific player IDs for certain operators? Essentially any operator can add "real cash" to a player account, set up some kind of agreement with the streamer about any "winnings" being deducted behind the scene. If combined with deduction of the game provider fee its a way of doing "fake streaming" with seemingly "real money" at a very low cost for both operator and game provider.

It's a pretty well-known fact that most game providers are being approached with these types of deductions, and given the fact that most of the "known" extreme fake streamers are playing a significant amount of both time and money on Pragmatic Games, this seems like a realistic case.

Can you confirm Pragmatic has never deducted game provider fees to support streamers? @Pragmatic Play Official (EDIT: Tagged)

Because if so I personally consider that to actively supporting this problematic way of promoting games and gambling in general
 
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I like Pragmatic's games. They always feel good fun, they can pay out relatively easily.

I'm not remotely bothered that they may or may not pay streamers to play their games; it's their business, they're free to run it as they will. You either get entertainment from the streamers, or you don't. If they do pay them, they've decided it's worth their money to do so. I see no issue.

Anyone believing the streamers really are throwing out tens of thousands of their own cash daily while apparently living in pokey flats needs to have a think about themselves.

(And yes, you can look at those humungous wins and think "if only". I look at them and divide by 50 to see what I'd get at my usual stakes - far less impressive, but still entertaining.)
 

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Streamers.. :laugh:


I am sure there must be a market for customers who want to emulate this inadequate moron with an IQ lower than his shoe size. Perhaps if he can shout profanities any louder he may get even more viewers.

Pragmatic Play are a scummy company with scummy ethics and they employ even more scum to promote their games.
 

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I am sure there must be a market for customers who want to emulate this inadequate moron with an IQ lower than his shoe size. Perhaps if he can shout profanities any louder he may get even more viewers.

Pragmatic Play are a scummy company with scummy ethics and they employ even more scum to promote their games.

I feel you are very wrong in that statement. It is not really Pragmatic's fault in this.

No its roobet that's the scummy part.

I made my opinion in this guy's twitch stream and got banned instant when I mentioned one line of responsible gambling.

Roobet is one big CON casino and its disgusting how they market themselves. Try have a search on Twitch almost every 2nd streamer is streaming on Roobet.

Roobet basically give FREE money to their streamers and they get to keep 10% and can give 5% away to their viewers.

How this can be legal is a big question to me. Since they also stream to everyone it should be banned and not legal.

They are basically giving casino streamers a bad name, making it seem everyone are bad and scammers.

I wanted to get into proper casino streaming as well but that has already been ruined anyways.
 

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I feel you are very wrong in that statement. It is not really Pragmatic's fault in this.

No its roobet that's the scummy part.

I made my opinion in this guy's twitch stream and got banned instant when I mentioned one line of responsible gambling.

Roobet is one big CON casino and its disgusting how they market themselves. Try have a search on Twitch almost every 2nd streamer is streaming on Roobet.

Roobet basically give FREE money to their streamers and they get to keep 10% and can give 5% away to their viewers.

How this can be legal is a big question to me. Since they also stream to everyone it should be banned and not legal.

They are basically giving casino streamers a bad name, making it seem everyone are bad and scammers.

I wanted to get into proper casino streaming as well but that has already been ruined anyways.

Pragmatic reskinned Sweet Bonanza especially for Roobet: Roo Bonanza. So Pragmatic does play a part in this imo.
 

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I feel you are very wrong in that statement. It is not really Pragmatic's fault in this.

No its roobet that's the scummy part.

I made my opinion in this guy's twitch stream and got banned instant when I mentioned one line of responsible gambling.

Roobet is one big CON casino and its disgusting how they market themselves. Try have a search on Twitch almost every 2nd streamer is streaming on Roobet.

Roobet basically give FREE money to their streamers and they get to keep 10% and can give 5% away to their viewers.

How this can be legal is a big question to me. Since they also stream to everyone it should be banned and not legal.

They are basically giving casino streamers a bad name, making it seem everyone are bad and scammers.

I wanted to get into proper casino streaming as well but that has already been ruined anyways.
Pragmatic pay streamers to play their games
Pragmatic are happy to use fake wins in promotional social media posts
Pragmatic were TopGame who ripped players off
N1 lie about if Roshtien uses real or fake money
Roobet are dodgy as hell
The streamers who use fake money are pathetic and should all be banned

You mention about how many are playing on RooBet, have a look how many, especially the ones doing stupidly big stakes, are playing Pragmatic slots

They are all as bad as each other.
 

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So, I've been doing some more research on this guy.. All signs point back to the "owner" of Roobet named "Howie" who funds these nimrods accounts with $1000 and the streamers get 25% of the profits and viewers 5%. Apparently it's called the "Howie Deal".

I don't know exactly how Pragmatic Play has a part in the "Howie Deal", but surly they have some kind of hand in these fake streaming videos...

I wish Roobet disappeared to be honest. It just all seems so damn rotten to the core. I also wish Pragmatic Play would just clear the air instead of answering in tiny moderation and never coming back to answer all other serious inquiries.
 
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So, I've been doing some more research on this guy.. All signs point back to the "owner" of Roobet named "Howie" who funds these nimrods accounts with $1000 and the streamers get 25% of the profits and viewers 5%. Apparently it's called the "Howie Deal".

I don't know exactly how Pragmatic Play has a part in the "Howie Deal", but surly they have some kind of hand in these fake streaming videos...

I wish Roobet disappeared to be honest. It just all seems so damn rotten to the core. I also wish Pragmatic Play would just clear the air instead of answering in tiny moderation and never coming back to answer all other serious inquiries.

Actually, this is his deal with Roobet (copied from his Twitch chat):
"Xposed has a marvelous sponsorship with Roobet. The way this sponsorship works is pretty simple, he gets unlimited fills of $5,000 ($2,500 ETH $2,500 BTC) each stream and whatever he ends with he keeps 25% of, and 5% is given back to any follower or subscriber. (Multiple winners) Details for his current deal/start can always be viewed by doing !rn in the chat. (Cody’s deal has been secured until 2024) Muhajer gets 3-4 fills a night of $1,000 ($500 in each balance)."

So the main streamer gets unlimited cash (?) and the secondary streamer a little less. If you watch 15 minutes of him playing he's sometimes blowing through 25-50k in that timeframe. I'm sure some viewers try what he does, just that the money they use is their own cash and has real life consequences :(
 

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Actually, this is his deal with Roobet (copied from his Twitch chat):
"Xposed has a marvelous sponsorship with Roobet. The way this sponsorship works is pretty simple, he gets unlimited fills of $5,000 ($2,500 ETH $2,500 BTC) each stream and whatever he ends with he keeps 25% of, and 5% is given back to any follower or subscriber. (Multiple winners) Details for his current deal/start can always be viewed by doing !rn in the chat. (Cody’s deal has been secured until 2024) Muhajer gets 3-4 fills a night of $1,000 ($500 in each balance)."

So the main streamer gets unlimited cash (?) and the secondary streamer a little less. If you watch 15 minutes of him playing he's sometimes blowing through 25-50k in that timeframe. I'm sure some viewers try what he does, just that the money they use is their own cash and has real life consequences :(
Thanks for clarifying.

This is some serious irresponsibility from Roobet at it's finest. A runner up irresponsibility award to Pragmatic Play should be given for allowing such ridiculous bonus buy amounts and highlighting the wins on social media. Bad 👎
 

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Hi everyone,

Some of you might already know me from my days at Videoslots, but for the ones that don’t, I would like to properly introduce myself and let you know what I'm currently doing at Pragmatic Play.

I am an enthusiastic gambler myself and had a big interest in slots even before I got into the industry. So, when the opportunity to join Pragmatic play came up, I had to jump at the chance to work with them, since I have always been curious about how it would be to work with the provider, compared to the Casino side.

I have now worked at Pragmatic Play for almost 3 years and have recently taken on the role as Head of B2C Marketing; an important part of my responsibility in this role will be to provide feedback about our slots, to the teams that are creating them, but also to manage and being active here and answer all your questions about Pragmatic Play and the Industry of slots overall!

Being in the Industry for around eight years, five of which I have worked for Videoslots and adding the current Pragmatic Play experience of three years, I have faith that with this combined knowledge, I will be able to answer most of your questions and provide a great deal of transparency, in an industry where, most of the times, it’s very hard to understand how things work.

So please feel free to use this thread to ask any questions about Pragmatic Play or general questions that intrigue you in the industry. I will do my best to answer all questions with transparency and accuracy if I have any knowledge about them. If there is something I don't know I will do my best to find an answer for you. However, some things might take longer to reply to depending on the topic. But rest assured if I can find an answer, I will get it for you.

I do want to put in a small disclaimer. There will be issues that I won't be able to answer for different reasons. I will do my best to let you know why I can't answer it, if it because I just don't know or if there is another reason. But being a long-time follower on this forum, I also know that people don't read up, so if the same questions get asked again and again, I do ask for your assistance in referring new users to the old reply.

Looking forward to communicating with you guys again!

Br

Daniel
 

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Hi everyone,

Some of you might already know me from my days at Videoslots, but for the ones that don’t, I would like to properly introduce myself and let you know what I'm currently doing at Pragmatic Play.

I am an enthusiastic gambler myself and had a big interest in slots even before I got into the industry. So, when the opportunity to join Pragmatic play came up, I had to jump at the chance to work with them, since I have always been curious about how it would be to work with the provider, compared to the Casino side.

I have now worked at Pragmatic Play for almost 3 years and have recently taken on the role as Head of B2C Marketing; an important part of my responsibility in this role will be to provide feedback about our slots, to the teams that are creating them, but also to manage and being active here and answer all your questions about Pragmatic Play and the Industry of slots overall!

Being in the Industry for around eight years, five of which I have worked for Videoslots and adding the current Pragmatic Play experience of three years, I have faith that with this combined knowledge, I will be able to answer most of your questions and provide a great deal of transparency, in an industry where, most of the times, it’s very hard to understand how things work.

So please feel free to use this thread to ask any questions about Pragmatic Play or general questions that intrigue you in the industry. I will do my best to answer all questions with transparency and accuracy if I have any knowledge about them. If there is something I don't know I will do my best to find an answer for you. However, some things might take longer to reply to depending on the topic. But rest assured if I can find an answer, I will get it for you.

I do want to put in a small disclaimer. There will be issues that I won't be able to answer for different reasons. I will do my best to let you know why I can't answer it, if it because I just don't know or if there is another reason. But being a long-time follower on this forum, I also know that people don't read up, so if the same questions get asked again and again, I do ask for your assistance in referring new users to the old reply.

Looking forward to communicating with you guys again!

Br

Daniel

I just want to say welcome back to the forum Dan, hope you and yours are well and congratulations on the new post, which I assume is a promotion :)
 

Dan_Pragmatic

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Hi everyone,

I have read your questions and have found the below questions which I will answer one by one.

Q1: Does Pragmatic Play know if the Streamer is playing with fake money or test accounts?

A1: So the short answer is NO, but let’s break it down. I have previously worked at a Casino, so I know there are different internal tags for Players such as: VIP Player, KYC, Streamer account, etc. However, this tagging is not something Pragmatic Play can see. In more detail, like any other technology company, Pragmatic Play uses an API to let Casinos communicate with our servers. An API is an information gateway that allows Pragmatic Play to communicate with the Casinos and share certain information with each other. Every time you hit spin on one of our slots, we send a request to the Casino via our API, and the Casino replies informing us if there is sufficient available account balance to process the request (spin). If the Casino responds positively, the Player can initiate the spin. If the Casino responds negatively, the Player gets an “insufficient balance” message. After the spin is completed, Pragmatic Play communicates the result of the spin back to the Casino, and the Casino updates the balance of the Player. In all this process, Pragmatic Play sees every Player as a number only, we don’t receive (and don’t need to receive) any personal information on the Player, including if the Player is a streamer or not. We do ask for some additional basic information required to complete the request, such as language and currency, to make sure the Player will see the game in the desired language and currency, but that’s pretty much it.

That being said, if a Player is tagged as a Streamer account internally in a Casino system, Pragmatic Play would not know, as this information is not communicated to us. In Pragmatic Play’s system, this Streamer is just a number, like any other Player out there. I wanted to emphasize that Players/Streamers never hold accounts with Pragmatic Play. Our software does not support this, it's simply not possible. Its also not allowed for us to hold Player accounts under our licenses, we are only authorized to produce games, not to hold Player information or process money. Player (and Streamer) accounts are always with the individual Casinos they play with, so Pragmatic Play simply can’t give a Streamer a test account, because Pragmatic Play cant give any accounts to anyone.

At Pragmatic Play, in line with industry standards, we work on the basic principle of “need to know” basis. So we don’t want the Casinos to send us any information about Players via API we don’t strictly need to process the transaction. Reinforcing this concept, the Casinos would never share any unnecessary information with anyone, including us, as that would not follow their business interests. Simply put, only the bare minimum information is shared to complete transactions. An other thing to consider is that sharing any personal Player information would generate additional costs, GDPR responsibilities and extra regulatory requirements, along with the need for mandatory user consent. Therefore, the bottom line is that we can’t see any personal Player information on our side, including the deposit methods used by the Player and if these deposits are real or not.


TLDR: No, Pragmatic Play does not know if a player is playing with fake money or not, only the casino knows this.

Q2: Do we pay Streamers to promote our games?

A2:
Pragmatic Play was one of the early supporters of the Streamers. We help Streamers with promotions, tournaments, marketing material, etc. to give them a better product for their viewers and to help small Streamers off the ground. Of course, we look at Streamers as a great way to promote our games and get more exposure. Same as any other company that chose to support Streamers. We look at forums the same way and it is important to know that we don’t, and we would never, cover anyone’s losses. Covering losses would not make any financial sense for us, as Casinos earn most of the money on losses, Pragmatic Play only licenses the slots to Casinos for a small % of what the Casinos earn on our slots.



Q3: Why do we have so many Bonus Buy games and also why don’t we restrict them?

A3:
We have many games and we are doing our best to bring new and exciting games to our players. Currently, we are rolling out four to five new games a month, therefore, we also have many bonus buy games. At Pragmatic Play, we believe in getting feedback from our community to always improve our product and games. And both Players and Streamers have told us that they like bonus buy games. Therefore, we started adding bonus buy features to games where we believe it would be a good experience for the player (I am the first to admit that some work better than others, but that is the same for games, not everything can be a hit). Bonus buy games are still a small part of our overall game catalog, however, our data shows that it is something players like using and therefore we will keep adding the feature to games where it makes sense.

We believe that minimum and maximum bets should be determined by the Casinos, regulators, and of course the Players. Different players have different preferences and every Casino has the option to control the minimum and maximum bet they offer on our games. Since it is the Casino that takes all the risk for the win and loses on games, it is up to them to determine how much risk they are willing to take. We do our best to give recommendation to the Casinos but ultimately, it is their decision how they want to run their businesses. Also, in general, we see that the industry is moving more and more to sustainability and affordability, which we fully support. We see ourselves as an entertainment provider and regulation helps the industry to become more mainstream.

Q4: How can the Streamers get such big wins? Does Pragmatic Play need to pay for such big wins?

A4:
In general, Streamers play for hours and hours, so it's only logical that they will also get big wins. More specifically, our Bonus Buy features increase volatility and turnover a lot and therefore, also the chance of hitting big multiplier wins. Basically, if you play mostly Bonus Buy features, you will see a lot of big wins. But of course, this will also cost much more since your average total bet is a lot higher. Players should keep this in mind and decide the right strategy suitable for them. Streamers prefer big wins as it creates action and thrill, therefore Streamers like games with the highest volatility and using the Bonus Features just helps them increase this Volatility.
So, does it cost Pragmatic Play money if a Streamer wins big? Well, yes and no. As mentioned above, the Casino takes all the risk for wins and losses. Most game providers license their games to the Casino for a small % of what the Casinos earn on the slots. So, if a Streamer wins big, then yes in some way Pragmatic Play indeed will lose some money. We are completely fine with that, as these are legitimate wins.

Q5: Was Roshtein win fake and why did we put it on our social channels?

A5:
This is the first and most likely only time I will comment on an individual Streamer/Player. I want to give you, the Players, the best possible clarity of our industry and how things work, by being as transparent as possible, but I don’t believe talking about a specific Streamer accomplishes that. In addition, as already mentioned, we don’t have any insight into Player/Streamer specific information, including deposit methods and if deposits at the Casino are real or not. So why did we decide to share Roshtein’s big win video on our social media? It happened simply because our marketing department thought it was impressive and saw it as a good opportunity to showcase a big win on one of our games. The idea was to start sharing more big win videos over time. Then why did we decide to remove it? Well, we received some complaints from other Streamers and we don’t want to be seen as favoring one Streamer over the other, we want to support all Streamers equally, therefore, we decided to remove the post from our social media. But this should, in no way, be seen as a confirmation of anything. As I have already mentioned before, we don’t have that kind of Player information available.

Q6: Why does Pragmatic have a max win limit on some of their games?

A6:
There are two reasons why we have moved towards 5000x cap:

1. With a cap, it is easier to give bigger wins below the cap more often, creating a general better experience. The cap also allows us to make more daring, open ended features, because the cap keeps them in check. In general, we can make better feeling games, that pay the max win more often if they are capped.
2. Caps help with max exposure - it allows operators to offer bigger bets, because the risk they expose themselves to is fixed.

TLDR: - allows to pay better wins within the cap on higher hit rate with more open-ended features, it`s better to advertise an achievable max win than something huge that never hits, operators will allow bigger bets.


Br,

Daniel
 

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Q2: Do we pay Streamers to promote our games?

A2:
Pragmatic Play was one of the early supporters of the Streamers. We help Streamers with promotions, tournaments, marketing material, etc. to give them a better product for their viewers and to help small Streamers off the ground. Of course, we look at Streamers as a great way to promote our games and get more exposure. Same as any other company that chose to support Streamers. We look at forums the same way and it is important to know that we don’t, and we would never, cover anyone’s losses. Covering losses would not make any financial sense for us, as Casinos earn most of the money on losses, Pragmatic Play only licenses the slots to Casinos for a small % of what the Casinos earn on our slots.

Q5: Was Roshtein win fake and why did we put it on our social channels?

A5:
This is the first and most likely only time I will comment on an individual Streamer/Player. I want to give you, the Players, the best possible clarity of our industry and how things work, by being as transparent as possible, but I don’t believe talking about a specific Streamer accomplishes that. In addition, as already mentioned, we don’t have any insight into Player/Streamer specific information, including deposit methods and if deposits at the Casino are real or not. So why did we decide to share Roshtein’s big win video on our social media? It happened simply because our marketing department thought it was impressive and saw it as a good opportunity to showcase a big win on one of our games. The idea was to start sharing more big win videos over time. Then why did we decide to remove it? Well, we received some complaints from other Streamers and we don’t want to be seen as favoring one Streamer over the other, we want to support all Streamers equally, therefore, we decided to remove the post from our social media. But this should, in no way, be seen as a confirmation of anything. As I have already mentioned before, we don’t have that kind of Player information available.
Welcome back Dan. Just going to comment on those two things

Firstly, question 2, nice way to answer it without actually answering the question. You could have just said 'yes'.

Question 5. I'm sorry, that makes no sense. Surely if you are going to feature big wins then it doesn't make a blind bit of difference if he is the first one you feature, as other streamers hit big wins, they would be featured too. If you did it for the reasons suggested then you are pretty much saying streamers control your advertising. You could have also used the screenshot without mentioning a streamers name.
 

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Welcome back Dan. Just going to comment on those two things

Firstly, question 2, nice way to answer it without actually answering the question. You could have just said 'yes'.

Question 5. I'm sorry, that makes no sense. Surely if you are going to feature big wins then it doesn't make a blind bit of difference if he is the first one you feature, as other streamers hit big wins, they would be featured too. If you did it for the reasons suggested then you are pretty much saying streamers control your advertising. You could have also used the screenshot without mentioning a streamers name.

I think he's saying with Question 5 that as there was "questions" over that win from the streamer's peers, they removed it from the marketing. Which is fairly sensible, as these things go.
 
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