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Piss Test ???/Decadent Behavior

Discussion in 'America the Beautiful' started by rockycatt, Feb 1, 2010.

    Feb 1, 2010
  1. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

    Occupation:
    carpenter
    Location:
    Boston
    THE JOB - URINE TEST
    (Whoever wrote this one deserves a HUGE pat on the back!)
    Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck in my case, I am required to pass a random urine test (with which I have no problem). What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
    So, here is my Question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?
    Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ass - doing drugs, while I work . . . Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?
    I guess we could title that program, 'Urine or You're Out'
    Pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't. Hope you all will pass it along, though. Some thing has to change in this country -- and soon!!!!!!!
     
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  2. Feb 1, 2010
  3. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    I agree! In my case it`s in Sweden of course!
     
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  4. Feb 1, 2010
  5. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    100% agree RC:thumbsup:........laurie
     
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  6. Feb 1, 2010
  7. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
    I'm in Australia and it's the same here :mad:
     
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  8. Feb 1, 2010
  9. love2winalot

    love2winalot Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Roulette Player
    Location:
    Philippines/Visiting Las vegas
    I agree, but what would the state do with all that exta money????? ah hahahaha

    They did an interview down at the strip of locals who are on unemployment. They interviewed a guy at an internet cafe. he said, "I was laid off at the airport, i did my unemployment application on line, and did not have to talk to a single person, AND SO DID ALL MY FRIENDS".

    I also agree,that it makes poorer people stay poor. Why work for $5hr, when you can get it for free? I also think that to buy Gas, you should have to show a no fault insurance card at the station. This would eliminate a lot of the uninsured drivers on the road.

    Oh, and since this is a gambling forum, i will add this. Next time someone says, "Gambling is in moral, and causes family proabelms". Ask them this.
    Underage drinking=against the law.
    internet gambling, and gambling under 21=against the law
    use of drungs=against the law
    DUI=against the law.

    Being married, and having 3 kids, and having sex with another person who is also married and has 4 kids= A-OK.......:rolleyes:

    This causes more family proabelm than all the above put together. So, if you want to complain about internet gambling, i suggest you also complain about Adultry, as that is the elephant in the room. imhop

    ps; as long as it is only a drug test, and not a test for Beer.....:D
     
  10. Feb 1, 2010
  11. PenDragyn21

    PenDragyn21 Full Member

    Occupation:
    Games
    Location:
    The Lair
    This is a horrible idea.
     
  12. Feb 1, 2010
  13. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    If you are getting assistance from the Goverment to feed your children or to help with shelter or clothes and utilitys, then yes you should be given a random drug test every 3 months.

    Its people who live off the system and then go on to teach their children, its ok to let the Goverment take care of you, go out and have as many children as you want, dont worry about using protection, thats extra money you will get, now thats what pisses me off:mad:

    The money should be used for the family, the parent or parents should be made to take parenting classes and make use of the job centers and career centers in their local counties instead of sitting at home and collecting money, most of those places and churches have child care centers or can point them in the right direction, so thats not an excuse, i have no one to sit with my children.

    There are people out there who need help everyday, disabled folks, who are told, you can find a job doing this or that and are turned down, yet a woman with a brood of kids with different fathers or doesnt know who the daddy is can live better than those on disability, this is not fair, they paid in to the system, they did their part.

    Im sorry if i come off being not PC here but i think the whole thing need to be re evaluated, no more supporting you children if your not willing to help yourself.

    If they are getting those checks for children, then if they fail a piss test, no more money, no more free rent, no more free help period!!!!!!!!

    If they had the money to buy a bag of weed or some crack or even beer, they dont need to have children anyway and are not putting them first, let the state take custody of them, after all they had been, and at least they would be safe.................

    This is just the way i feel and im sorry if it upsets anyone.

    Children come first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  14. Feb 1, 2010
  15. PenDragyn21

    PenDragyn21 Full Member

    Occupation:
    Games
    Location:
    The Lair
    Drug testing won't fix this. All it will do is create another point of failure in the bureaucracy chain.

    This is a separate issue from drug testing. This I can get behind.

    Drug testing won't fix this either. Should we be advocating for tests for those on disability as well just in case?

    Or this. Does the system need to be re-evaluated? YES Will drug testing provide some sort of fix for all the issues you listed? NO.
    I wouldn't mind a little birth control education to be handed out with checks. Good luck getting anything like that funded with tax dollars in America. The moment you say public funds and birth control half the country loses their minds.

    First, off there are a lot of legitimate medicines that cause false positives (the Vicks Inhaler for one). Also keep in mind some of the people who receive welfare live are in multi-family homes or tenements. The guys next door could be clambaking day in and day out or the people on the floor above are cooking meth. You can't just say no to breathing.
     
  16. Feb 1, 2010
  17. Stovetopp

    Stovetopp Senior Member MM

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    On the Beach
    Why be sorry Great post..Now to hear what those commie obama liberals have to say about this.....I really would love to hear the counter argument and trust me, I am a "liberal" but those idiots out there make it hard for me to even admit it...
     
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  18. Feb 1, 2010
  19. Dangerous53

    Dangerous53 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    In the wind
    Agree 100% with this idea, if they really need it to support themselves and aren't users, they're welcome to it. Hopefully they can improve their lives some day.

    If they're druggies, drunks, or crackhead losers, then piss up and/or PISS OFF!
     
  20. Feb 1, 2010
  21. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

    Occupation:
    carpenter
    Location:
    Boston
    double post error
     
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  22. Feb 1, 2010
  23. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

    Occupation:
    carpenter
    Location:
    Boston

    with all do respect this is like a filibuster

    the closest person in my life ever died from a as it says on the death certificate opiate intoxication

    so I'm with what ever we can do to retard the use period

    thank you for your time R C
     
  24. Feb 1, 2010
  25. felicie

    felicie Ueber Meister PABnononaccred

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    Lets drug test the politicians first. :)
     
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  26. Feb 1, 2010
  27. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    :thumbsup:

    But they will test neg. because they never inhale...:lolup:
     
  28. Feb 1, 2010
  29. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

    Occupation:
    Nursing & Run Bus Trips
    Location:
    Hartford,Ct
    Oh yes I am 101% they should piss in a bottle and get tested.And not just the day they pick up the check let a case worker pop in on them and do the test.
    Knowing the people on welfare they can pass this test by not taking anything for 48 to 68 hours and this will gear them up to stop before they pick up the check on the 1st of every month.
    I know some people on welfare living better than me.and they don't even have to work.

    Us working class people have to do this to get paid.

    Did you know in the Nursing field you can be tested everyday if they want it.
    ~T~
     
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  30. Feb 1, 2010
  31. gloria460

    gloria460 Meister Member

    Occupation:
    nurse
    Location:
    Florida

    What does Obama liberals have to do with this discussion about random drug test for people on assistance. If you don't like him that's fine but I don't see people who support him as commies..jeez
     
  32. Feb 1, 2010
  33. felicie

    felicie Ueber Meister PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
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    Location:
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    Yeah, he's probably not a commie just a Big Fat Liar. :)
     
  34. Feb 1, 2010
  35. felicie

    felicie Ueber Meister PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
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    Location:
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    Whose going to pay for drug testing? for how many people? what, every month? :)
     
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  36. Feb 1, 2010
  37. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    It all goes back to how we raise our children, do we want them to have a better life ? There are some that dont just care, let their children run the streets instead of putting their foot down and whipping that ass when they need it, sometimes talking doesnt work, but a firm hand to the butt never killed a child, thats another issue so i wont even go there.........If you know of someone cooking meth, call the police, be pro active about where you call home and help keep it safe, one less drug dealer down and off the streets and not hooking children on the shit:mad:

    I have been snowed in since thursday, so im just spilling my guts, im sorry to offend anyone but with the shape we as a nation and our goverment is in, if we dont speak our minds, nothing gets done, people suffer..............i will be quite now:D..............laurie
     
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  38. Feb 1, 2010
  39. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Great post RC :)

    There's a handful of states that have passed laws stating that they'll only pay for the kids you already have while you're on welfare; and if you have any more, you won't get a single penny more.
     
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