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Phone call from NETSpend (prerecorded)

Mousey

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Been out of town a few days and out of touch, so if this is repeated elsewhere just move along.. LOL

Anyway, just walked in the door this afternoon, bags in hand, phone was ringing. Prerecorded message from NetSpend saying that due to Mastercard and Visa rules Netspend will no longer process any online gambling deposits.

My QT is empty so .... there ya go... My online gambling break remains in effect untill further notice.... :p
 
Well, this morning I was able to deposit via Visa TO quicktender No it was no a netspend card bu will wait gill June1st. to see if I can deposit to QT
USING THE SAME vISA CARD Is QT part of gamblling?
Its so annoying that none of the gambling sites even remotely mention or suggest a way to send them our monies!
 
I got the same call 2 days ago.

However, in the past 24 hours I have deposited at 3Dice, Villento, Cherry Red, and Mandarin Palace....all with my Netspend and with no problems.

Fingers crossed!:thumbsup:
 
I wonder what things might slip thru... Guess casinos like I_NET_BET might have problems processing a deposit from Netspend.... LOL

Everyone keep us posted in the next week or so on what's working or not...

Thanks folks!
 
I just tried to deposit at english harbour with my net spend card and received the following message after the card was denied.

Sorry, but your transaction for $25.00 was declined due to compliance with federal anti-internet gambling law in effect 12/01/09.

However i used the same card, earlier this morning, to deposit at millinaire's club and it was approved,

Pam
 
Following from inquiry made to QT re: NS

Thank you for contacting the QuickTender Help Desk.

Please be informed that QuickTender (UseMyWallet) is primarily a money transfer method, thus your deposits will not be considered as gambling related. But since QuickTender is associated with gambling sites, your deposits may still be blocked by your card issuer. :(
 
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I got the same thing. Assuming we can still fund QT with a netspend card, we are now looking at over 10% in fees just to get the money into QT!! Withdrawls will cost me at least $50, assuming I can withdraw from my QT account to my bank (not optimistic). With QT being virtually the only withdraw method for USA, I'm afraid that unless the industry has come up with a new way, we are screwed! Anyone heard any rumblings about new transaction methods in the works?? I hope so!!
 
if you go to their site you will see across the top of the log in page that they will not do any gambling trans anymore after the 1st of june. so that does not leave us with much of anything anymore. and the withdrawl ops suck if you don,t have a bank account of course they might suck even if you have one. i talked to fl about the withdrawl and asked if they would be getting more for the u.s they said quicktender works fine but not if you don,t have a bank account and do not want to get one or if they r sent back as being gambling trans. so i think its almost dead to us u.s players but maybe they wanted it this way to finlly leave the u.s altogether.
 
kauphy said:
if you go to their site you will see across the top of the log in page that they will not do any gambling trans anymore after the 1st of june. so that does not leave us with much of anything anymore. and the withdrawl ops suck if you don,t have a bank account of course they might suck even if you have one. i talked to fl about the withdrawl and asked if they would be getting more for the u.s they said quicktender works fine but not if you don,t have a bank account and do not want to get one or if they r sent back as being gambling trans. so i think its almost dead to us u.s players but maybe they wanted it this way to finlly leave the u.s altogether.
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There is just too much revenue to be lost in the US gambling market and you can almost bet that there are new depositing and withdrawal methods being planned, if not already in the works, the casinos do not wish to lose this vast market, they are in it for a profit and investors have mega millions at stake, so my gut feeling says yes there will be some new means available for the US player.

This June 1st deadline has everyone biting at their knuckles and yes there may be some hicups for a little while but i also expect it to be business as usual after the hoopla has died down.These are just my thoughts on this, but it does make sense, doesn't it ?


Laurie
 
Hiya: On one hand it makes perfect sense. and on the other hand people are Idiots. The fact is, No one was in better position to create another deposit method for USA Players, than were Neteller an Moneybookers. They each lost around 70% of their customer base. Any NEW deposit/withdraw methods will need to be, "Different", in order for them to go thru OK, and being outside the definition of UIGEA Regulations. Otherwise, the Fines the new processors have to pay eat up all their profits.

imhop: If this was something that was easy to do, SOMEONE would have done it already. It would be set to go, ALREADY. The Casino's would have informed their USA Player Base, already. If Casino's are just going to settle for, "ONE", deposit/withdraw option for all US players, they are also going to lose a lot of their player base.

Perfect Sense would have been to have made the adjustments/changes already. It is not like this was a surprise, and they did not know it was coming................:eek:
 
love2winalot said:
Hiya: On one hand it makes perfect sense. and on the other hand people are Idiots. The fact is, No one was in better position to create another deposit method for USA Players, than were Neteller an Moneybookers. They each lost around 70% of their customer base. Any NEW deposit/withdraw methods will need to be, "Different", in order for them to go thru OK, and being outside the definition of UIGEA Regulations. Otherwise, the Fines the new processors have to pay eat up all their profits.

imhop: If this was something that was easy to do, SOMEONE would have done it already. It would be set to go, ALREADY. The Casino's would have informed their USA Player Base, already. If Casino's are just going to settle for, "ONE", deposit/withdraw option for all US players, they are also going to lose a lot of their player base.

Perfect Sense would have been to have made the adjustments/changes already. It is not like this was a surprise, and they did not know it was coming................:eek:
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Why lay all your cards on the table and show your hand, when the game isnt completed?

They are waiting just like we are and they sure arnt gonna go about telling what they have up their sleeves, with all the money at stake to be lost, they have back up plans:thumbsup:, this is a mega multi million dollar industry we are talking about, not some pogo board games:D


Laurie
 
Hiya: Southern Belle lady, i agree completly. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut..........If you are not going to show your hand, then your hand is not very good to begin with. The only reason not to show is that, "Your New Processor will still be in violation of UIGEA", and subject to fines, ect.

There are ways around this. Bodog, and a few other Casinos, use of Western Union, and the way it is used, is a perfect example of that. Look at this forum alone? How many many people have already posted, "I give up", or, "I stopped playing until a better deposit/withdraw option comes along"? Now, multiply that by all the other players in America who do not visit this, or any, forum, and what do you have? A lot of upset/confused players, who quit.

It is against the Law to give a Woman $100 to sleep with you.
It is NOT against the law to "spend" $100 on a women so she will sleep with you.........At least this is what i heard/read in a book.....:p
in the same way..............
It is against UIGEA to have money taken out of your bank acct, by a casino, or 3rd party, to be used for internet gambling.
It is NOT against the law for you to send money to a 3rd party, and then, independed of you being involved in the process, the 3rd party, deposits that money into a Casino, in your name. ie, You to "western union" to Joe Smoe in another country, to the Casino, into your acct.

With that type of process, the only way left for America to stop On Line gambling would be to stop all Casinos from being abled to be downloaded onto your pc in the first place. and...............To block your ability to log in, even if you have the Casino on your PC.

I am sending a check to my wife in lasvegas, that i had send to me here in the philippines from a Casino. It is only $450. I will see if BOA says anyhting when she tries to deposit it?
 
I had several QT deposits that were posted to my netspend account this morning with no problem.

Guess we will just have to wait and see. If we can still fund QT or EWX then we will still be able to deposit. Getting a withdrawal will be a little trickier. I have one coming from QT to my bank and will post when it goes thru or if not.

Just a bit of info, my guy and I have a betting account with Twinspires.com, owned by Churchill Downs, and they have a message on their website that due to UIGEA your deposits with Visa/MC may not go thru but that they are working on a solution with the cc companies. Now as far as I know, online horse betting did not fall into the UIGEA bill. Actually, I believe it was specifically omitted. But because of the processor they use, they may or may not be tagged. Interesting. I can see this causing a really big S**t storm because this will effect US businesses.
 
And today we have the followup email from Netspend...

Our records show that you may have used your NetSpend Visa® Prepaid Debit Card for internet gambling transactions in the past.

Beginning May 31, 2010, MasterCard and Visa will begin complying with the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act by blocking all online gambling transactions attempted by U.S. cardholders. This means you will not be able to use your NetSpend card or account for internet based gambling transactions. Internet gambling transactions will be automatically declined to comply with these federal regulations. NetSpend has no control over this change.

Don’t forget there are many great ways to use your NetSpend card. You can pay bills online or over the phone, shop online and make everyday purchases anywhere Visa debit cards or wherever Debit MasterCard is accepted. At NetSpend, we make sure that you are informed and in control of your money.

Thank you,

Your NetSpend Team
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And don't forget (Netspend), that 99% (I would guess) of your revenue comes from deposits to gambling sites. So, I guess if I can't use it to fund my QT account, it becomes useless anymore. Has anyone attempted to withdraw from QT to the bank account yet today?? Let us know if you have and how it goes. THanks!
 
What is ewallet? It says USA can use it? Is it just like Quicktender?

Also, when i used my netspend card at 3dice it would always say "entertainment", so we will not be able to use it there? Because some casinos would say "home improvement" or something.

Depositing to Quicktender should not be a problem should it? But like anniemac said, what about withdrawals?


There HAS to be other options.
 
I got an email from NS today and almost wrote back asking if payment processors or transfer's were included but after reading it again decided against asking as NS is really trying to play dumb here like they had no idea and I'm sorry but that don't fly with me after all these years. How did they(NS) last as long as they did when countless other visa pp cards were disallowed? :rolleyes: we shall see.
 
felicie said:
I got an email from NS today and almost wrote back asking if payment processors or transfer's were included but after reading it again decided against asking as NS is really trying to play dumb here like they had no idea and I'm sorry but that don't fly with me after all these years. How did they(NS) last as long as they did when countless other visa pp cards were disallowed? :rolleyes: we shall see.
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From what I understand, it's not that they are playing dumb, but that the UIGEA's enforcement provisions had not kicked in until June 1. And since there has been some dispute as to whether existing laws cover internet gambling (since the Wire Act apparently covers betting via physical wires and not wifi, since there was no wifi when the original Wire Act was passed), this was a gray area according to some.
 
*snip* i didnt have enough on my card to fund my qt account so i figured what the heck. all i will do is get rejected. so i tried my 26 dollar dep and it worked. the transaction will read *snip* or something like that. anyway maybe a few transactios are slipping thru. hope it dont back fire on us. i wont do it again until i know the transaction has cleared.
 
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I never got a call, or email from NS and just sent a transfer from PayPal to NS today. We'll see what happens when it hits NS in a couple days and I try to deposit @ Inetbet
 

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