Payout problems at Club World ... maybe not.

[Lucky Loser]

Just a heads up. There seems to be payout problems at Casino World casinos which is very disappointing.

Play at your own risk.

 

[chayton]

Casino World??

 

[Lucky Loser]

eg High Noon, Manhattan Slots, Lucky Red

 

[Nifty29]

Just a heads up. There seems to be payout problems at Casino World casinos which is very disappointing.

Play at your own risk.

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Hold on a moment.

You haven't described your situation i.e. how long you have waited, which method, docs required etc.

It is totally unreasonable to say "play at your own risk" without providing any information at all.

The chat you posted tells us nothing at all.

 

[chayton]

eg High Noon, Manhattan Slots, Lucky Red

Club World... gotcha Have you tried contacting the rep here?

 

[Lucky Loser]

Why ? I have been told they have technical issues and cannot pay. Further they dont know when the issue will be rectified.

I assume this problem affects all players, so hence the warning.

For the skeptical few, I have played at this casino for a couple of years and have been fully I'd.

 

[chayton]

As much as I love Club World, I personally find their chat reps...ummm I don't want to say unhelpful, but they're sometimes not completely in the loop. I was just thinking that perhaps the rep could clarify this and maybe give you a more definitive answer than the canned response the chat people are taught to say.

 

[chuchu59]

It seems that the problem stems from a very inexperienced cs staff who seems to know nothing and is complicating the issue. There might be tech issues but the op is putting words in her mouth. This is hardly convincing and I would simply disregard what the op said.

 

[Nifty29]

Why ? I have been told they have technical issues and cannot pay. Further they dont know when the issue will be rectified.

I assume this problem affects all players, so hence the warning.

For the skeptical few, I have played at this casino for a couple of years and have been fully I'd.

Instead of stampeding to the forums and posting "warning" and "play at your own risk", you could have contacted the rep and waited 24 hours to find out exactly what the problem is.....it may well be something that will be fixed in a few hours, or a day at most. It's certainly not a reason to start raising red flags. Also, you are assuming it is affecting other players - you don't know if it is or it isn't.

A reasonable person would at least give this accredited casino a chance to investigate. Mind you, a reasonable person also wouldn't say "such as what? no money?"

 

[samoas]

Just a heads up. There seems to be payout problems at Casino World casinos which is very disappointing.

Play at your own risk.

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I have a PM into Tom at the moment in reference to a similar issue. I was going to await his response but now feel compelled to validate I am having the same experience as Lucky Loser right now, so I don't think he is crying wolf, so to speak.

I have saved my chat with Natasha from this morning and will post if this issue is not resolved in a timely fashion.

My story is I won a nice random jackpot over the weekend and made sure all of my documents were verified via chat w/ Karolina on Monday. Was told all was good. Woke up this morning and checked status and my w/ds were reversed. Hmmmph!!! They didn't even notify me and that pisses me off. I detest the lack of communication from CS. I have initiated every single time.

Opened chat, Natasha told me they want to verify my identity with a phone call. She proceeds to tell me ACH is down and suggests I order a check instead. Mind you the limit on a check per week is $2500. My balance is $6400 and I wanted ACH to get the max payout of $4000.

So I called, spoke with Karolina and was told all was now officially documented. I once again inquire as to the ACH issue and am told all is okay but won't reflect until tomorrow since processing is done for the day. I am going to wait and see what happens tomorrow.

I believe I will be paid eventually, however the waiting to find out stinks. Will keep you all posted of the status.

Christine

***editing to verify the issue is with Club World. Maybe change the title LL?

 

[clubworld]

Hi,

@ Lucky Loser – I can see that your withdrawal has already been processed

@ samosa –There are no issues at the moment with ACH withdrawals so I will have to check into why you were informed of this by Customer Services. As you only completed the account verification procedure today I would expect your ACH withdrawal to be processed tomorrow.

Kind Regards
Tom

 

[samoas]

Hi,

@ Lucky Loser – I can see that your withdrawal has already been processed

@ samosa –There are no issues at the moment with ACH withdrawals so I will have to check into why you were informed of this by Customer Services. As you only completed the account verification procedure today I would expect your ACH withdrawal to be processed tomorrow.

Kind Regards
Tom

I will pm you my chat script with Natasha. Thanks for taking the time out Tom to look into this.

***adding I technically was verified Monday per conversation with Karolina and was told today that you needed phone verification. Not my intent to be snarky here, however I want the facts stated as they transpired! My withdraw was then reversed w/o notification and I was under the impression it was being processed. If a phonecall is required for verification purposes, that is fine however be sure to let the player understand the facts before your CS says your documentation is in order and your withdraw will be processed today!



Christine

 

[maxd]

Why ? I have been told they have technical issues ....

Because it's part of the Forum Rules which you agree to respect when you signed on here.

2.2 - Do not post a complaint without notifying the appropriate casino representative by either PM or email. The casino representatives are listed here.

Also, "Warning ..." is too easily confused with an official Casinomeister Warning. And there's the "Casino World"/Club World problem. And it appears that you've been paid after all. Thread title changed accordingly.

 

[Repro]

I really don't get this...

For about the last year there have been several posts about payment issues at CW. These post are all about delayed payments, but eventually everybody ALWAYS got paid.

I agree it can suck that you (sometimes) have to wait about a week before a withdrawal get's processed/paid, but my experience is that you always get your money.

Of course i hope that CW can always process withdrawals in 1 day, but it's just not going to happen. Be glad they are not Rival

 

[samoas]

I do get it.....and no disrespect intended Max

What I believe the primary issue is, as Chuchu stated before, is CS and fellow staff have a communication gap. Their CS is respectful, polite and very professional.God knows I put Natasha through 23 minutes of queries this morning alone, poor girl! This was my first cashout with them so I had loads of questions. I have been around the block.

My docs were all in order and confirmed via chat by Monday 11:00 am per coversation with Karolina, which, mind you I initiated. Btw the w/d was done initially on the 28th of August.

I posted because I believe LuckyLoser wasn't exagerrating when he said there was an issue. I was told that for a fact this morning and have the records of chat to prove it. I did PM Tom 6:00am EST today. He never replied (he was logged in), except for in the forum. I have since pm'ed him my chat transcript early this morning and yet still no personal acknowledgement. He's not a robot nor glued to this website. I know that! I will wait until tomorrow and see what happens.

Is it a minor issue? Possibly. Do I think I will be paid? Eventually, yes. My play at various facilities really is based on the expereinces of long-standing CM members here and their experiences. I have been here forever! I am US, so I expect the worst and hope for the best. LL is Sydney, so I would think things may go a bit smoother for him in the cashout process, hence me verifying what he stated. Also raising my skepticism alarm.

I work in the gaming industry (hore racing) and am in a CS position. Maybe I have higher standards in regard to this situation, however I felt as if I had been deceived after being personally told and believing my cashout was being processed 48hrs+ ago only to find it back in my account w/o an apology or acknowledgement. That is unfair. I am glad I checked and intend to always be proactive wherever I play. I am from the US and fellow US players must be their own advocates.

I do hope this works out and that I am just paranoid from all of the screw overs in the last 6 months. I really truly enjoy playing at Club World. Yeah! a random jackpot win helps. I have been playing online since I signed on here in 2003 (the good ole days of online gaming) and have never, ever once had a bad experience until 2011. I truly credit Bryan and fellow CM members for this accomplishmment. My first chalk it up to lesson learned loss in all these years was with QT's demise. My first negative experience was also with Villento but they did redeem themselves. So please know I have lots of experience in this venue.

Sorry for the rant folks (Christ! I feel like vinyl here!) but I get so pissy when I don't have the freedom to gripe or must become defensive to explain personal experiences from various facilities. I rely on all of you for your personal experiences (good,bad, and ugly) and it just boggles my mind when posters gets in a huff because another had a bad one at their favored place.

Respectfully,
Christine

 

[maxd]

... no disrespect intended Max.

Did I miss something?

... I get so pissy when I don't have the freedom to gripe or must become defensive to explain personal experiences from various facilities. ... it just boggles my mind when posters gets in a huff because another had a bad one at their favored place.

Umm, just a suggestion, but mightn't you be reading a bit too much into what's been said here? Who is in a huff? Who is cramping your freedoms? Again, thinking maybe I missed something. If you're referring to Repro's post, to me that just read as "chill, you'll get paid, I always do". How is that huffy or freedom cramping?

 

[Cleveland]

Did I miss something?



Umm, just a suggestion, but mightn't you be reading a bit too much into what's been said here? Who is in a huff? Who is cramping your freedoms? Again, thinking maybe I missed something. If you're referring to Repro's post, to me that just read as "chill, you'll get paid, I always do". How is that huffy or freedom cramping?

I think she mixed up her response and the "i do get it" is in reference to repro who posted "i don't get it." I think

 

[Cleveland]

Just a quick note: This thread is a prime example as to why posters like myself and nifty (yea i threw you in there) are so quick to defend an accredited casino. So many of these problems are easily understood AND solved by simply following the rules of the forum: Send pm to the casino rep (can also add email to the casino), wait reasonable amount of time, contact max, wait reasonable amount of time, if issue still not understood or resolved try one more round then post facts here.

Some of us wouldn't be so quick to cry "bs" if some weren't so quick to cry "foul."

Sorry I just woke up, might not be thinking clearly....hope this doesn't count as a thread derail

 

[SlotKing]

[derail]

I'm sorry, but I just had to laugh at this...

I work in the gaming industry (hore racing) and...

Edited for sp and punctuatuion

Now back to your regularly scheduled CW payments

[/derail]

CW has always been on the up and up when it comes to payments. Any business has things that go down or malfunction from time to time - it's just how machinery and software work. They will get things fixed and straighten things out... time is required to do these things though.

 

[chayton]

I think it's normal to have a few glitches on your first cashout at any casino. Hopefully samoas, you'll win another jackpot and the next cashout will be smooth and easy!

(lol@hore racing)

 

[samoas]

I think she mixed up her response and the "i do get it" is in reference to repro who posted "i don't get it." I think

Exactly, TY Cleveland!

 

[samoas]

Did I miss something?



Umm, just a suggestion, but mightn't you be reading a bit too much into what's been said here? Who is in a huff? Who is cramping your freedoms? Again, thinking maybe I missed something. If you're referring to Repro's post, to me that just read as "chill, you'll get paid, I always do". How is that huffy or freedom cramping?

Max- what I was trying to say is I hoped you would not take my post as flaming up fires. I was just writing from my personal experience. As for my rant. it did not pertain to this thread exclusively but many others I have read and participated in over the last few months, especially since the US gaming has been affected. This thread just compelled me to vent.

Repro- I agreed with completely and I think Cleveland understood what I meant. Sorry if you were offended

 

[samoas]

Just a quick note: This thread is a prime example as to why posters like myself and nifty (yea i threw you in there) are so quick to defend an accredited casino. So many of these problems are easily understood AND solved by simply following the rules of the forum: Send pm to the casino rep (can also add email to the casino), wait reasonable amount of time, contact max, wait reasonable amount of time, if issue still not understood or resolved try one more round then post facts here.

Some of us wouldn't be so quick to cry "bs" if some weren't so quick to cry "foul."

Sorry I just woke up, might not be thinking clearly....hope this doesn't count as a thread derail

Hi Cleveland,

FWIW- I did take the appropriate action and pm'd the rep, once to inquire, second to validate (chat copy) what CS is telling their customers. When LuckyLoser was expressing his concern shortly afterI sent my pm, he was immediately questioned so I went ahead and expressed mine too. I wanted to validate what he was told because I too, was told the same. Tom's only response was via this thread, which was a generic reply.

I was told on Monday all docs are in order and payout will come. 2 days later funds are placed back in my account. without any notification whatsoever, so that is what I am really pissed about. When was CW going to inform me that they "needed" a phone verification? A week later when I bitch I don't have my funds yet? Because if I didn't look, I would have never known. Glad I won after vacation and not before.

 

[samoas]

[derail]

I'm sorry, but I just had to laugh at this...



Edited for sp and punctuatuion

Now back to your regularly scheduled CW payments

[/derail]

CW has always been on the up and up when it comes to payments. Any business has things that go down or malfunction from time to time - it's just how machinery and software work. They will get things fixed and straighten things out... time is required to do these things though.

OMG!
HORSE Racing

My hore racing days are long gone.

 

[chuchu59]

OMG!
HORSE Racing

My hore racing days are long gone.

Not me. I have been a horse-racing enthusiast for more than 30 years and still going strong. The horse-racing season at my place starts in 10 days and I just cant wait. Its great that we can bet on important races elsewhere like the Breeders Cup in the States and the Melbourne Cup in Australia.

 

[samoas]

Not me. I have been a horse-racing enthusiast for more than 30 years and still going strong. The horse-racing season at my place starts in 10 days and I just cant wait. Its great that we can bet on important races elsewhere like the Breeders Cup in the States and the Melbourne Cup in Australia.

Australia has awesome racing and I tend to do well there when I can play. Being on the East coast, the races run well into the wee hours. We used to simulcast Hong Kong racing many years ago. Was very popular.

I will keep you in mind Chuchu when I have anything interesting to play, especially for Breeders Cup. That's the best racing all year. I know a few owners and trainers from the east coast area who have had great success in the racing industry. Wish I had known your passion before the Belmont Stakes. I had the winner, Ruler on Ice and a sweet exacta payoff.

Christine

 

[Nifty29]

Australia has awesome racing and I tend to do well there when I can play. Being on the East coast, the races run well into the wee hours. We used to simulcast Hong Kong racing many years ago. Was very popular.

I will keep you in mind Chuchu when I have anything interesting to play, especially for Breeders Cup. That's the best racing all year. I know a few owners and trainers from the east coast area who have had great success in the racing industry. Wish I had known your passion before the Belmont Stakes. I had the winner, Ruler on Ice and a sweet exacta payoff.

Christine

I don't mind the races, but I actually like the harness racing better.

I only live about 15 mins from 2 major Melbourne racetracks so I occasionally pop in for a flutter.

 

[Lucky Loser]

I have just come home and feel some clarification is required.

Yes, I was paid by CW after my complaint was posted.

Saying this, the reason for my post was not to pressure the casino to pay me. I can afford to wait a few days. Rather, if I am told a casino is having problems payng players then i think people need to be warned.

While some others in this forum may disagree, I do not play at casinos where I don't have confidence of payment. I suspect many others will agree hence my posting. It's not like I made the issue up.

I often have problems with rejected withdrawals at CWC but normally its all sorted out when I contact customer support. In this case it wasn't.

This forum is meant to be for players to air their issues and concerns not be advocates for various casinos which clearly some people are. It's also apparent to me that some posters don't seem to grasp the various vested interests of industry players, the potental for fraud and always present insolvency concerns. Rather they sprout off various "asserted" facts which they have obtained from other people's posts to try and show how irrational everyone else is.

On a side note I have put $500 on Manighar in pre post markets @ $71 to win the Melbourne Cup. I hope he makes the field and even better wins.

 

[samoas]

I don't mind the races, but I actually like the harness racing better.

I only live about 15 mins from 2 major Melbourne racetracks so I occasionally pop in for a flutter.

I have never had great success at handicapping harness racing. We have never simulcast harness from Australia, only thoroughbreds. Didn't know that was even popular over there! We used to have Swedish tracks on ocassion but the handle was so poor that we did not renew the simulcasting rights. Now that was real harness racing with sometimes entries listed 12+ trotters a race! Do you have access to US racing? Just curious. If so I'll have to add you to my list Nifty for when I get reliable info.

 

[Nifty29]

I have just come home and feel some clarification is required.

Yes, I was paid by CW after my complaint was posted.

Saying this, the reason for my post was not to pressure the casino to pay me. I can afford to wait a few days. Rather, if I am told a casino is having problems payng players then i think people need to be warned.

While some others in this forum may disagree, I do not play at casinos where I don't have confidence of payment. I suspect many others will agree hence my posting. It's not like I made the issue up.

I often have problems with rejected withdrawals at CWC but normally its all sorted out when I contact customer support. In this case it wasn't.

This forum is meant to be for players to air their issues and concerns not be advocates for various casinos which clearly some people are. It's also apparent to me that some posters don't seem to grasp the various vested interests of industry players, the potental for fraud and always present insolvency concerns. Rather they sprout off various "asserted" facts which they have obtained from other people's posts to try and show how irrational everyone else is.

On a side note I have put $500 on Manighar in pre post markets @ $71 to win the Melbourne Cup. I hope he makes the field and even better wins.

You can dress it up however you like, but you did not follow the rules regarding complaints/issues concerning accredited casinos. One of the benefits/privileges of accreditation is that these operators are afforded a reasonable chance to resolve issues privately, rather than have someone start threads recommending that other members avoid them.

Obviously, you were annoyed that you were told your payout may be delayed....there is nothing wrong with that. However, you used the forum to vent your frustration and potentially damage a reputable brand, rather than do what a reasonable person would and contact the rep and allow 24 hours for a reply. As I said, you can dress it up all you want, but it is plain that your intention was not to "protect other players" or "warn the members", but to vent at CW's expense.

You had no information regarding the actual issue, no actual unreasonable delay (48 hrs is not unreasonable), and no idea if it was affecting anyone else - and yet you had to warn everyone? Instead of trying to defend your inappropriate behavior, you should be apologizing to CW, CM and the Rep.

Who is advocating for CW? If you're going to make accusations, you should at least have the courage to name them. I would be cautious however, as you could end up looking very silly.

CW are reputable operators and have earned the right to be treated with more respect than they have been by the OP.

 

[Nifty29]

I have never had great success at handicapping harness racing. We have never simulcast harness from Australia, only thoroughbreds. Didn't know that was even popular over there! We used to have Swedish tracks on ocassion but the handle was so poor that we did not renew the simulcasting rights. Now that was real harness racing with sometimes entries listed 12+ trotters a race! Do you have access to US racing? Just curious. If so I'll have to add you to my list Nifty for when I get reliable info.

Harness is huge here. Melbourne area has at least two meetings a night with big city meets three nights a week.

I can bet on us races here no problem.

I'm happy to be on the list. I'm not a big punter but its nice for something different

 

[chuchu59]

I have never had great success at handicapping harness racing. We have never simulcast harness from Australia, only thoroughbreds. Didn't know that was even popular over there! We used to have Swedish tracks on ocassion but the handle was so poor that we did not renew the simulcasting rights. Now that was real harness racing with sometimes entries listed 12+ trotters a race! Do you have access to US racing? Just curious. If so I'll have to add you to my list Nifty for when I get reliable info.

Is harness racing akin to chariot racing? If so, there was something similar in Macau 2 decades ago but frankly nobody was interested and everything tapered off. Even to this very day, Hong Kong racing is well and alive and we do attract some of the world's best jockeys to the colony. I understand there is a successful jockey from Australia named Tim Clark joining us this season.

 

[daveboz]

Why ? I have been told they have technical issues and cannot pay. Further they dont know when the issue will be rectified.

I assume this problem affects all players, so hence the warning.

For the skeptical few, I have played at this casino for a couple of years and have been fully I'd.

they need to clear the money I gave them Sunday/Monday before they can pay you.

 

[Diane]

they need to clear the money I gave them Sunday/Monday before they can pay you.

So is there another CWG "slam" ---- or an attempt at humor?

Diane

 

[Nifty29]

Is harness racing akin to chariot racing? If so, there was something similar in Macau 2 decades ago but frankly nobody was interested and everything tapered off. Even to this very day, Hong Kong racing is well and alive and we do attract some of the world's best jockeys to the colony. I understand there is a successful jockey from Australia named Tim Clark joining us this season.

Yep it descends from chariot races.

I really like the skill and tactics involved with the driving, and the introduction of a Sprint lane has made it far more competitive.

 

[chuchu59]

So is there another CWG "slam" ---- or an attempt at humor?

Diane

Obviously a light-hearted attempt to diffuse the tension.

 

[samoas]

Got Paid!

My first installment was done via ACH and took 5 business days. Hit my bank this morning. Now awaiting a check (processed Tuesday) for the balance. First time getting a check in years but wanted to see the time differences in delivery. Just curious.

I was so lucky to hit a random jackpot last week and seem to get lots of play CW. After receiving my funds, I deposited a 100, took the 65% bonus and after playthrough am cashing out again!:yahoo:

I am now a ClubWorld believer.

Christine

 

[Nifty29]

My first installment was done via ACH and took 5 business days. Hit my bank this morning. Now awaiting a check (processed Tuesday) for the balance. First time getting a check in years but wanted to see the time differences in delivery. Just curious.

I was so lucky to hit a random jackpot last week and seem to get lots of play CW. After receiving my funds, I deposited a 100, took the 65% bonus and after playthrough am cashing out again!:yahoo:

I am now a ClubWorld believer.

Christine

Sings:

"Then I saw her cash......now I'm a believer....not a trace....of doubt in my mind"

CW really is a top notch operation.

 

[Diane]

Sings:

"Then I saw her cash......now I'm a believer....not a trace....of doubt in my mind"

CW really is a top notch operation.

Agreed -- Ditto -- What he said.....

Diane

 

[footdr]

Payment really fast this time via ACH

My first installment was done via ACH and took 5 business days. Hit my bank this morning. Now awaiting a check (processed Tuesday) for the balance. First time getting a check in years but wanted to see the time differences in delivery. Just curious.

I was so lucky to hit a random jackpot last week and seem to get lots of play CW. After receiving my funds, I deposited a 100, took the 65% bonus and after playthrough am cashing out again!:yahoo:

I am now a ClubWorld believer.

Christine

Only took 3 business days from withdrawal request to receipt. Yipee!

 

[samoas]

Only took 3 business days from withdrawal request to receipt. Yipee!

Congrats Footdr!

 

[KasinoKing]

Not me. I have been a horse-racing enthusiast for more than 30 years and still going strong...

I think you mis-read the post you quoted, where samoas said "My hore racing days are long gone. "


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KK

 

[Diane]

Resolved

Congrats Footdr!

Time for a moderator to rename the post as "Resolved" ???

Diane

 

[samoas]

I think you mis-read the post you quoted, where samoas said "My hore racing days are long gone. "


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KK

Dang KK! Implying a Freudian slip?