Online Gambling in Australia

[theslotsking]

Recently there have a number of changes to the Interactive Gambling Act in Australia whereby online Poker, BlackJack and Roulette have been banned. Live sports betting on the internet has been banned also so to place a live bet you have to call the bookmaker, which is a real pain in the arse.

I am curious though as to whether other online casino's will stop taking customers from Australia. The main poker websites have left Australia and it would be great to get clarification as to whether these recent changes will change things over here.

 

[Casinomeister]

A number of sites are bailing from the Aussie market. It's really a shame - when things are banned, the black market takes over. Duh.

 

[KasinoKing]

I am curious though as to whether other online casino's will stop taking customers from Australia. The main poker websites have left Australia and it would be great to get clarification as to whether these recent changes will change things over here.

There are already a few threads in the forum about this.
From what I've heard, casinos which are licensed in the UK or EU (e.g. ALL casinos with MG & NetEnt games) will leave the Aussie market by the end of this month.
Some have already left, many have advised players & affiliates that they are leaving, and I expect the rest to follow soon.

KK

 

[theslotsking]

My bad. Didn't see the other threads. Its a bit ironic the government is clamping down on online gambling yet is perfectly OK with pokies in every pub.

The government has now said it was happy for the bookies to run constant TV adverts and broadcast the ODs before and during a sports match and tv advertising would not be banned in the new bill.
The government is looking after businesses which are regulated and paying taxes in Australia ie the bookies.
The rest who are not regulated will no doubt be given the boot. No more online casino's.

I give it a couple of years and James Packer will launch his own online crown casino.

 

[trexman]

Wow no offence but you guys are clueless

Recently there have a number of changes to the Interactive Gambling Act in Australia whereby online Poker, BlackJack and Roulette have been banned. Live sports betting on the internet has been banned also so to place a live bet you have to call the bookmaker, which is a real pain in the arse.

I am curious though as to whether other online casino's will stop taking customers from Australia. The main poker websites have left Australia and it would be great to get clarification as to whether these recent changes will change things over here.

Does anyone have have the slightest clue about Australia because what has been posted so far is absolute garbage, people posting about law want to be careful that there advice is on the knocker if they are not lawyers. First of all nothing is changing, it's been the same for a very long time now.

No casino's are leaving for legal reasons as they are simply commiting a criminal offence for letting anyone in Australia gamble at their online casino.
This certainly does not stop these brazen operators as they are out of Australian jurisdiction and unable to be prosecuted, however they can rest assured the the Australian authorities know all about every stakeholder that is involved is illegally offering gambling to it's people.

Australian authrities have vowed to arrest and detain any of them if they ever are stupid enough to want to go for a holiday in the world best country they will get to see the sites of razor wire then promptly returned to jail or back home.

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IT IS NOT AN OFFENCE FOR AUSTRALIANS TO PLAY THEIR GAMES HOWEVER.
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Part 3—Complaints system: prohibited internet gambling content
Division 1—Making of complaints to the ACMA
16 Complaints about prohibited internet gambling content
(1) If a person has reason to believe that end users in Australia can access prohibited internet gambling content using an internet carriage service, the person may make a complaint to the ACMA about the matter.
Content of complaint
(2) A complaint under subsection (1) about particular internet content must:
(a) identify the internet content; and
(b) set out how to access the internet content (for example: set out a URL or a password); and
(c) if the complainant knows the country or countries in which the internet content is hosted—set out the name of that country or those countries; and
(d) set out the complainant’s reasons for believing that the internet content is prohibited internet gambling content; and
(e) set out such other information (if any) as the ACMA requires.

 

[interlog]

Does anyone have have the slightest clue about Australia because what has been posted so far is absolute garbage, people posting about law want to be careful that there advice is on the knocker if they are not lawyers. First of all nothing is changing, it's been the same for a very long time now.

No casino's are leaving for legal reasons as they are simply commiting a criminal offence for letting anyone in Australia gamble at their online casino.
This certainly does not stop these brazen operators as they are out of Australian jurisdiction and unable to be prosecuted, however they can rest assured the the Australian authorities know all about every stakeholder that is involved is illegally offering gambling to it's people.

Australian authrities have vowed to arrest and detain any of them if they ever are stupid enough to want to go for a holiday in the world best country they will get to see the sites of razor wire then promptly returned to jail or back home.

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IT IS NOT AN OFFENCE FOR AUSTRALIANS TO PLAY THEIR GAMES HOWEVER.
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Part 3—Complaints system: prohibited internet gambling content
Division 1—Making of complaints to the ACMA
16 Complaints about prohibited internet gambling content
(1) If a person has reason to believe that end users in Australia can access prohibited internet gambling content using an internet carriage service, the person may make a complaint to the ACMA about the matter.
Content of complaint
(2) A complaint under subsection (1) about particular internet content must:
(a) identify the internet content; and
(b) set out how to access the internet content (for example: set out a URL or a password); and
(c) if the complainant knows the country or countries in which the internet content is hosted—set out the name of that country or those countries; and
(d) set out the complainant’s reasons for believing that the internet content is prohibited internet gambling content; and
(e) set out such other information (if any) as the ACMA requires.

I don't think that anybody has said that a player from Australia playing online will get prosecuted. What has been said is that casinos are pulling out of the Australian market

Oh and welcome to the forum. Though to call us clueless is perhaps not the best way to start!

 

[trexman]

I don't think that anybody has said that a player from Australia playing online will get prosecuted. What has been said is that casinos are pulling out of the Australian market

Oh and welcome to the forum. Though to call us clueless is perhaps not the best way to start!

Fair call, not the best way to start, my apologies. I just wanted people to have the correct info. Correct nobody did say that an Ausssie player will get prosecuted and I made that fact clear in red. I said that just in case anyone was wondering if they are breaking the law playing them, as i didnt want them to misunderstand my actual point and cause panic amongst meisters.

I would be mighty thank ful however if theres anyone that would like to address my actual point that i tried to get accross. Is their anyone amongst us that suggests that what I wrote is anything less than 100% FACT??

PLEASE i WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU! IN FACT I OFFER $100 TO ANYONE THAT SAYS EVEN 1 WORD IN MY THREAD IS NOT CORRECT AND CAN THEN PROVE ME WRONG

 

[trexman]

Ironic? The worlds most misused word, usually by people trying to sound smart.

My bad. Didn't see the other threads. Its a bit ironic the government is clamping down on online gambling yet is perfectly OK with pokies in every pub.

The government has now said it was happy for the bookies to run constant TV adverts and broadcast the ODs before and during a sports match and tv advertising would not be banned in the new bill.
The government is looking after businesses which are regulated and paying taxes in Australia ie the bookies.
The rest who are not regulated will no doubt be given the boot. No more online casino's.

I give it a couple of years and James Packer will launch his own online crown casino.

theslotsking: Sorry ironic has nothing to do with what you said. I can justify right now why the govt has pokies in pubs and clubs in SOME Australian jurisdiction.

No.1- They are rugulated and made to be fair by licensed regulators that are from the same jurisdiction, and dodgy operators are easily bought to justice, so if u win u get paid EVERYTIME! Imagine that!

No.2- They are most often run by sporting clubs as a means to earn a few dollars to keep their non for profit club running, any winnings go to Australians.

No.3- The big, the goverment can TAX IT!

 

[ladyhawke]

Is gambling illegal in Australia?

From that Youtube video, the OP (Carl Bentley) posted the following: (Note: I have condensed it a little to remove extraneous wording without affecting the meaning).

MAKING A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN ONLINE CASINO...
If you wish to complain that...any casino that offers casino style gambling to Australians then they are criminals and are breaking Australian Federal law.

...write a complaint to gambling@acma.gov.au. ...you must also make it clear that you are in Australia and where in Australia whilst using their site, then you must tell them that you wish to make an official complaint.

They will investigate and then turn them over to the Federal Police, once the Feds have investigated you will have the chance to get your money back and it will probably result in a class action making all their victims rich and making the casinos poor.

Follow what I just said to the letter everyone and all us victims can win, but we cant do it alone, everyone must complain!

In the Youtube thread, Carl Bentley appears to be encouraging a shit storm of hatred and ignorance, and giving false hope to people who have fallen foul of casino T&C's, particularly as what he is saying above is not accurate. Restrictions only apply to Australian based gambling operators, not to overseas based operators, and Australians are free to gamble where they wish (at the moment, anyway).

Someone on that Youtube thread is trying to start a forum to challenge casinos who they believe have "ripped them off", and are asking for $20 donations to get started. However I would have thought their starting position is on very shaky ground due to the incorrect assumptions being posted by Carl Bentley as fact. It just makes me very sad people are being manipulated like this. Yes, Gambling can have horrendous consequences - financially and mentally - but ultimately the responsibility to understand what a casino is offering is the player's. As the saying goes: "Ignorance is no excuse to the law".

Also, in one fell swoop, this YouTube thread has written off all fair play casino advocates - CasinoMeister, ThePogg, GWPA etc - as being useless and corrupt and they wish to replace them with this new subscriber's forum.

Good luck with that.

PS: I wish I had never clicked on the link or read the comments. A truly vile experience.

 

[kahntrutahn]

Throughout this whole rigmarole over the Interactive Gambling Amendment of 2016, there has been one very outspoken member of the Australian senate. David Leyonhjelm has gone so far as to encourage players to bypass the law using VPNs! Now, that of course is terrible advice because the average Aussie user would end up getting funds confiscated for poor VPN implementation and lack of supporting identification documentation, but, the point is that this politician is on the side of online poker players/citizens right to play. He just came out with a statement a couple days ago where he says that he's been working behind closed doors politically to get some sort of media compromise in place that would allow online poker sites, regulated and licensed sites, back into the Aussie market.

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