One Question that is rarely asked

[immortality]

I'd like someone to correct me if I am wrong, but would it not be better to stay at one online casino to get the better RTP than to jump from casino to casino if we are losing, or maybe stay playing between 2 casinos,say from different groups or software providers, the reason I ask is that alot of questions have came up regarding RTP and the search for the casinos who have the highest return to players, though I always found gambling to be a source of entertainment/recreation away from the mundane travesties that is everyday life in general, thanks for the replies in advance

Mary x

 

[secret2]

I'd like someone to correct me if I am wrong, but would it not be better to stay at one online casino to get the better RTP than to jump from casino to casino if we are losing, or maybe stay playing between 2 casinos,say from different groups or software providers, the reason I ask is that alot of questions have came up regarding RTP and the search for the casinos who have the highest return to players, though I always found gambling to be a source of entertainment/recreation away from the mundane travesties that is everyday life in general, thanks for the replies in advance

Mary x

Hi Mary,

I have been thinking the same thing!

I am short on funds, as is normal and want to gamble when I want to gamble. I drive for a living and do not want to drive 120 miles or so to a B&M on my 'down time'....so Online, it is for now.

I deposit in one casino again ( lets say CWC..but which one?)

I am in the USA and am short on choices.

So I bet at club world for a few times, no luck then JC, no luck then Inet...then go back to Highnoon, better luck, then...well just doing the rounds.

It's getting so boring.

Just when I think I am on a winning mode?...nada.

I think I am done...almost

I know this is not an answer to your question but had to add it.

 

[dionysus]

Staying at one casino for a session v jumping around for RTP shouldn't much matter. The RTP scale is broad ie the units calculated are over VAST distances..players fall within curves, lows or peaks, not the whole breadth of the scale

 

[immortality]

Staying at one casino for a session v jumping around for RTP shouldn't much matter. The RTP scale is broad ie the units calculated are over VAST distances..players fall within curves, lows or peaks, not the whole breadth of the scale

The point I'm making is that I once read (I can't remember now who it was) that one CM member was down $8000 or over at one casino but kept playing and got a win of over $8k back, so wouldn't it make more sense to stay at that one casino if you are losing, I know this is just 1 example, but it seems to me like it would make more sense in the long run, unlike if you had a win (though I know that's not the way human nature works, the point being you're likely to continue playing at the place you win)

 

[Surasanji]

Statistically speaking (with Slots, at least) The longer you play a particular game, the greater your chance for a big pay out on it.

This is the same idea behind buying more than one lottery ticket- its called 'betting power'.

Remember though, RTP is often measured over thousands and thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of spins and is, ultimately, just what is 'expected' to come back to you.

All that matters is your luck!

 

[immortality]

Statistically speaking (with Slots, at least) The longer you play a particular game, the greater your chance for a big pay out on it.

This is the same idea behind buying more than one lottery ticket- its called 'betting power'.

Remember though, RTP is often measured over thousands and thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of spins and is, ultimately, just what is 'expected' to come back to you.

All that matters is your luck!

You are 100% correct Surasanji, if you check my screenshot today, that is the second time this week that I had stayed at a particular slot for over 30mins, and I got that win albeit on a low bet, but I hadn't much to play with, it was more about play time for me than 'big wins', because it is a recreation, that sometimes brings in 'helpful' money, which it did today for the second time this week(cheesy pun was unintended).

Theoretically speaking, if a RNG is used in each and every slot game, how can one give an actual rtp, wouldn't some players have a higher rtp than others, the same way as in land based casinos, some will be better off than others, I'm kind of being hypocritical to my own thread here, but the average player would either be better off or worse off unless they kept playing the same game till they hit the jackpot on a reasonable bet?

 

[Mojack]

As I understand it RTP is a figure that is accurate over time. In the short term "variance" or risk of the paticular game and luck impact your bankroll the most.

 

[immortality]

Hi Mary,

I have been thinking the same thing!

I am short on funds, as is normal and want to gamble when I want to gamble. I drive for a living and do not want to drive 120 miles or so to a B&M on my 'down time'....so Online, it is for now.

I deposit in one casino again ( lets say CWC..but which one?)

I am in the USA and am short on choices.

So I bet at club world for a few times, no luck then JC, no luck then Inet...then go back to Highnoon, better luck, then...well just doing the rounds.

It's getting so boring.

Just when I think I am on a winning mode?...nada.

I think I am done...almost

I know this is not an answer to your question but had to add it.

I know it's difficult being in your position, if I could change it would, but I can't, I do understand your point of view, really I do..

I also know that my question can't reach a wide spectrum of players here at CM, but secret, I believe that you will get your chance to shine remember to expect the unexpected

 

[Surasanji]

You are 100% correct Surasanji, if you check my screenshot today, that is the second time this week that I had stayed at a particular slot for over 30mins, and I got that win albeit on a low bet, but I hadn't much to play with, it was more about play time for me than 'big wins', because it is a recreation, that sometimes brings in 'helpful' money, which it did today for the second time this week(cheesy pun was unintended).

Theoretically speaking, if a RNG is used in each and every slot game, how can one give an actual rtp, wouldn't some players have a higher rtp than others, the same way as in land based casinos, some will be better off than others, I'm kind of being hypocritical to my own thread here, but the average player would either be better off or worse off unless they kept playing the same game till they hit the jackpot on a reasonable bet?

As said by others- its just a question of time.

That RNG is constantly ticking new numbers up, so if you have bigger betting power- and stay on the same slot the entire time- you hit more random numbers.

Thing is, there are millions of combos on your 5-reel slots. And as such- millions of random numbers that are constantly jumping around. Even when you're not actively spinning.

The more times you click spin, the more of those unique random numbers you hit, the bigger chance for pay out. Since there are millions though, it takes a ton of spins to get a proper idea of an individual's RTP.

But, it IS (supposed to be) random. So one player could, potentially, spin millions and millions of times and never win anything significant. Another player could make 3 spins and all of them could be jackpots.

Those examples are at the extreme ends of the spectrum, of course, but I know there are some days I feel like one of those two!

RTP is always an expected rate back. Not an actual rate back- although I imagine most Casinos could, if they wished, publish a player's personal RTP on a particular slot. I don't see them ever doing that, though.

At least, not any time soon.

We can always dream, right?

 

[immortality]

As said by others- its just a question of time.

That RNG is constantly ticking new numbers up, so if you have bigger betting power- and stay on the same slot the entire time- you hit more random numbers.

Thing is, there are millions of combos on your 5-reel slots. And as such- millions of random numbers that are constantly jumping around. Even when you're not actively spinning.

The more times you click spin, the more of those unique random numbers you hit, the bigger chance for pay out. Since there are millions though, it takes a ton of spins to get a proper idea of an individual's RTP.

But, it IS (supposed to be) random. So one player could, potentially, spin millions and millions of times and never win anything significant. Another player could make 3 spins and all of them could be jackpots.

Those examples are at the extreme ends of the spectrum, of course, but I know there are some days I feel like one of those two!

RTP is always an expected rate back. Not an actual rate back- although I imagine most Casinos could, if they wished, publish a player's personal RTP on a particular slot. I don't see them ever doing that, though.

At least, not any time soon.

We can always dream, right?

Not to mention, there are thousands if not millions who play at each online casino, albeit some not so often due to low funds, thank you for the wonderful response, much apreciated

 

[Surasanji]

Not to mention, there are thousands if not millions who play at each online casino, albeit some not so often due to low funds, thank you for the wonderful response, much apreciated

Very true, and as I understand it, most Casinos consider RTP to be a global number, versus a number for an individual player. (Although, I could be wrong on this. And, of course, individual casinos/softwares might have different ways of approaching this particular element of play.)

And its my pleasure! Always glad to help however I can!

 

[KasinoKing]

Remember though, RTP is often measured over thousands and thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of spins and is, ultimately, just what is 'expected' to come back to you.

It's actually over many MILLIONS of spins.
I'm glad you corrected yourself later!

Thing is, there are millions of combos on your 5-reel slots. And as such- millions of random numbers that are constantly jumping around. Even when you're not actively spinning.

The more times you click spin, the more of those unique random numbers you hit, the bigger chance for pay out. Since there are millions though, it takes a ton of spins to get a proper idea of an individual's RTP.

But, it IS (supposed to be) random. So one player could, potentially, spin millions and millions of times and never win anything significant. Another player could make 3 spins and all of them could be jackpots.

Just for an example, Microgaming's Thunderstruck (1) has 30, 30, 30, 30 & 44 symbols per reel respectively.
30 x 30 x 30 x 30 x 44 = 35,640,000 different possible reel stopping positions.
Divide that by 9 win-lines and we therefore know the chances of hitting 5 Wilds is 3,960,000 to 1.
(There's only 1 wild on each reel)

KK

 

[kingsino]

I'd like someone to correct me if I am wrong, but would it not be better to stay at one online casino to get the better RTP than to jump from casino to casino if we are losing, or maybe stay playing between 2 casinos,say from different groups or software providers, the reason I ask is that alot of questions have came up regarding RTP and the search for the casinos who have the highest return to players, though I always found gambling to be a source of entertainment/recreation away from the mundane travesties that is everyday life in general, thanks for the replies in advance

Mary x

As I'm sure you are aware, luck doesn't have memory, so even if you have lost $10,000 at one slot in 10000 spins then it's the same as you just sitting down at that slot. You are not promised a RTP %.

I would say, play wherever you like as long as they treat you well give you good bonuses and promotions and they have games you enjoy. That said, T-RTP % is always a big factor for me when I choose which game to play, along with how much variance the slot has.

The thing with high T-RTP and low variance slots are that they allow you to play longer for your money (on average), giving you more entertainment for your dollars.

I agree 100% with this part; "I always found gambling to be a source of entertainment/recreation away from the mundane travesties that is everyday life in general".

Have fun, play safe

Cheers,
Henric
Kingsino