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It's an RTG (now called Spinlogic) game. Only available in RTG casinos - the last casino brand I know of who only have their own games and not slots from multiple providers.Never even seen the game if I’m honest lol
It's an RTG (now called Spinlogic) game. Only available in RTG casinos - the last casino brand I know of who only have their own games and not slots from multiple providers.
There are only a few (reputable) RTG casinos who accept players from the UK.
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Never even seen the game if I’m honest lol
So one aspect I never mess with to much is lowering lines... So for something like novas what would that do to a max hit just to understand?Ever try playing that with less than max lines? Amazing to win the cap but I would always wonder how much the game is basically just swiping off the table due to the maximum win being like 40,000x bet per line or whatever. Since your big wins will involve expanding wilds it shouldn't change too much to play on fewer lines.
I used to play it on 7 lines sometimes since that seemed to fit the theme but never achieved those 2000x wins.
So one aspect I never mess with to much is lowering lines... So for something like novas what would that do to a max hit just to understand?
Like for instance my 2.50 hit for 5000 the other day, on 7 lines what would that look like?
I just never really dabbled on changing likes much I gotta be honest, I actually sorta forget I can even do that in games.
So if you reduce the number of win-lines, you can then also place a bigger bet per line, so your total bet the same as you normally play. What this does in essence, is increase the variance of the slot AND also negate the max win rule from truncating any massive hits.So one aspect I never mess with to much is lowering lines... So for something like novas what would that do to a max hit just to understand?
Like for instance my 2.50 hit for 5000 the other day, on 7 lines what would that look like?
I just never really dabbled on changing likes much I gotta be honest, I actually sorta forget I can even do that in games.
Well imo slotocash is where id suggest over inetbet for a few reason and the biggest is their cash back and comp points. So they have a x10 playthru but no max cash out on any of it.. I don't do bonuses but I love cash back and comp points and have won many many times off their buck, so it's a win situation. Inetbet hamstrings you hard on their comp points and they don't even do a cash back per say outside of a manager reload bonus like once a month but it's again x10 cashout.Is Inetbet a decent place to play these games? I'm in a bit of a weird spot (literally!) as I'm not in the UK, but some places lump me in with the UK.
I used to quite enjoy RTG slots back in the day, something a bit different and with a feel all of their own.
What sort of RTPs do they tend to be found at these days?
Cheers Savatage I'll take a look, I had an account with Slotocash back in the day but haven't used it for many, many years now. (Assuming they're even the same outfit they used to be.)Well imo slotocash is where id suggest over inetbet for a few reason and the biggest is their cash back and comp points. So they have a x10 playthru but no max cash out on any of it.. I don't do bonuses but I love cash back and comp points and have won many many times off their buck, so it's a win situation. Inetbet hamstrings you hard on their comp points and they don't even do a cash back per say outside of a manager reload bonus like once a month but it's again x10 cashout.
The rtp on rtg slots imo are good... Basically it isn't a matter of if I'll get my money back and more, it's a matter of when and I have regular cashed out for years now with them. I'd say most of their games are 98% in that realm, it always comes back and sometimes in huge chunks! Well worth it and they have gotten aggressive in adding new games over the years... Definitely some fun ones but the oldies are still so good for sheer winnings.
Slightly surprisingly, my old Slotocash account details still work and I'm able to log in.
Alas I can't find any RTP any information in the game help files.
RTG were well known back in the day for running multiple maths models for their slots, including (IIRC) a stinky 91% model (91/94/97 springs to mind), so if that's still the case I'd like to know what Slotocash are running before committing funds.
Funny, we've talked a lot and you're about Sloto and I'm all about Uptown Aces. I can throw $30 on there and play all day long. Yesterday I placed a $1 bet on Regal Riches and hit for almost $1400. I get crazy good hits on Sweet Sixteen and Shanghi Lights. I don't have as much luck at Sloto as I do Uptown, I always even manage my $500 max cashout from my $50 VIP chip during the week. I love the huge instant cashback on deposits with no max cashout, the weekend cashback from deposits Thursday through Sunday (even though I collect all the instant cashback on every deposit and no max cashout) is AWESOME and the new Lobby Jackpot has paid out well for me. Yesterday I hit 3 times while I was playing (you can check if you've won it and don't have to exit your game). One was $72, one for $35 and I forget how much the other one was. It's just a fun little boost to your bankroll! Of course, Uptown is also where I hit the Super Grand of over 8k on Fortunate Buddha. Probably makes me feel a little more partial to itHm yea not sure, might want to ask them via chat. But I gotta imagine it's more than 91% if I had to guess. All I know is it's way higher than anywhere else I play... I win there more consistently than anywhere.. Endless screen shots of big hits and cash outs, for years now so I'd Def believe it's more than 91 but you'd probably have to ask their chat.
That's so awesome!! And that's a huge hit on regal riches, haha I gotta try that game more often! Was it a regular hit or in bonus round??Funny, we've talked a lot and you're about Sloto and I'm all about Uptown Aces. I can throw $30 on there and play all day long. Yesterday I placed a $1 bet on Regal Riches and hit for almost $1400. I get crazy good hits on Sweet Sixteen and Shanghi Lights. I don't have as much luck at Sloto as I do Uptown, I always even manage my $500 max cashout from my $50 VIP chip during the week. I love the huge instant cashback on deposits with no max cashout, the weekend cashback from deposits Thursday through Sunday (even though I collect all the instant cashback on every deposit and no max cashout) is AWESOME and the new Lobby Jackpot has paid out well for me. Yesterday I hit 3 times while I was playing (you can check if you've won it and don't have to exit your game). One was $72, one for $35 and I forget how much the other one was. It's just a fun little boost to your bankroll! Of course, Uptown is also where I hit the Super Grand of over 8k on Fortunate Buddha. Probably makes me feel a little more partial to it
Hm yea not sure, might want to ask them via chat. But I gotta imagine it's more than 91% if I had to guess. All I know is it's way higher than anywhere else I play... I win there more consistently than anywhere.. Endless screen shots of big hits and cash outs, for years now so I'd Def believe it's more than 91 but you'd probably have to ask their chat.
Yea Novas is a game that imo you gotta experience your first hypernova extreme to really fall in love.. Way back some dude said that on here and I thought let's see and it took a minute but when I finally landed an extreme round and blasted it for a few thousand I just never looked back.I can play in demo play at Slotocash fine using my old account details, I had Nova 7s running for a few hours last night during which time it munched down 600x of my balance, so would have stung a bit with real funds.
As a game I quite like it, it's the sort of slot I like in terms of design and structure, although probably a bit volatile for my taste.
Not having any accessible RTP information is a big turn off for me though, in the year 2023 it shouldn't take a conversation with live help to get RTP information.
Not having any accessible RTP information is a big turn off for me though, in the year 2023 it shouldn't take a conversation with live help to get RTP information.
We discussed this in a thread from years ago...
I think there was an attempt to figure out how to shortcut this limitation, but that the conclusion was that you can't alter the RTP setting, but you CAN alter the variance...
Here is one previous thread (with interesting input from Nifty and also VegasBum):
Reducing Paylines + Higher Denomination Coins - Casinomeister Forum
So one aspect I never mess with to much is lowering lines... So for something like novas what would that do to a max hit just to understand?
Like for instance my 2.50 hit for 5000 the other day, on 7 lines what would that look like?
I just never really dabbled on changing likes much I gotta be honest, I actually sorta forget I can even do that in games.
Yea the rtp is probably what you said I guess the thing for me is I go by my actual cashing out.. Like I personally don't keep track anymore but I go by how regularly I am cashing out and it's pretty consistent now. I never go long and when it starts to get hot it can be great. Like this current run I in about 2 weeks won 14,400 bucks and i know for a fact it's not like I spent anywhere near that amount recently...and then prior to that run I have literally tons of 1000 to 3000 cash outs.This is par for the course for what Americans tend to deal with, I would say the majority of sites/providers have had no RTP listed until the last year or two. It's gradually changing for the better but it's been really slow. It used to be hard to find RTP info on pretty much anything.
As you said, RTG/real time gaming is one of the providers that has variable payout settings on their games that can be chosen by a casino provider, so they will probably be one of the absolute last to provide this info. The casinos with the 88/91% settings aren't going to want their customers to know they are ripping them off (curious what casino extreme group would show.)
With RTG casinos you should probably assume that around 94% is about the best you're going to get. If you're not happy with that, then unfortunately RTG is not for you. I would guess there are exactly 0 RTG casinos on the high/97% model right now. Be careful with asking chat about RTP because who knows how likely it is you'll get accurate info, I tried asking some RTG casinos back in 2013-2016 what their settings were and found out years later practically every one flat out lied to me (including intertops and club world when they were actually respected.) At least slotocash/deckmedia had the honesty to simply not tell me instead of lying.
So yeah, unfortunately you just are not going to get high RTP's on an RTG casino. Best you can do is bad RTP's with 200% bonuses and lots of wagering rules. I got sick of all the BS that comes with these casinos and their bonuses so I cut back on playing RTG quite a bit, since I don't think the odds are very good if you're not using a bonus. This thread might tempt me to put in a short run at nova 7's though (with how I usually do at RTG games, the short run may not be just an expression of speech).
You have to remember that the max win based on line multiplier thing is pretty unique to RTG games online, and most people aren't thinking of that when they're discussing the issue. Usually you're right, changing lines (while keeping total bet the same) only changes the volatility unless the game has some kind of weird feature based on lines or win lines. But due to RTG's weird 50k max line thing, that's not true, as was very briefly brought up in post 18/19 of the thread you linked.
So as we said, if wins weren't capped, the RTP would be the same regardless of lines played with some rare exceptions. But wins are capped (reducing RTP), and playing fewer lines makes the cap hurt less, so presumably RTP would be higher. Maybe only very slightly, but for Nova 7's a lot of the RTP seems to be invested into max wins so it could be a significant question.
There was someone who worked at RTG who briefly commented on the issue but this was 12 years ago and not quite as many games around that might hit the cap:
Feature Guarantees - RTG -- How long do you spin? - Page 2 - Casinomeister Forum
From his post it sounds like on rain dance you just lost that RTP from playing max lines, meanwhile on triple twister they forced the player to play max lines and upgraded the paytable very slightly to compensate.
It's actually kind of weird that they don't force max lines on nova 7's. They could very easily compensate for it by changing feature odds though, but I'm not sure RTG has the competence to do that and they certainly don't have the transparency to tell anyone how lines affect the game/rtp.
I think it says Max pay was 50000 or something... But yea I always thought that a full screen of wild with the 3 x7 wouid be it... I wasn't sure if the main game capped a hit tho, all my big hits tho have been in bonus rounds.Yeah, I can't argue with your results in any case on Nova. I had just edited my post above if you missed it but with 10 lines instead of 25 it should be a 5000x max win - question is if they in any away alter the slot so that although the max win is higher, you may get fewer 2000x or lower wins. No real way to be sure unless they told us or someone felt like doing a few hundred thousands spins.
I could double check but I think when I looked at it years ago technically a single line could hit 37000x or something, 777 x 7 x 7 = 38k so guess that's probably it. Imagine if you got a full screen of wilds and only got like 5% of your "real" win due to the cap (that's probably pretty impossible to actually do though).
