Nickslots just got hit by Rizk limits mid stream!

Just see these actions to be quite useless, people been gambling and lost their houses in card games etc... far as history can be see, that magic £2 max bet wouldn't stop any problem gambler from losing, with that bet size you can still lose hundreds in hour when many gambling addicts have ended up to situation that they gamble everything when they get money, their gambling budget might be relatively low as they spend everything, that £2 max bet wouldn't really help them. I think average disposable income in UK some years ago was £1850 or something, how long time you need to lose that to slots even with £2 bets? Not many days i guess.

Banning things haven't yet help in anything, there are more drug addicts than ever same time when laws against them have been made more strict in last 100 years or something. Alcohol was banned in many places, did it stop people drinking or did it create huge cashflow for criminals who were selling booze?

You can't force people not to bang their head to wall if they willing to do that, you can try to educate them and tell that it hearts and don't make good for you. Like people should be more educated that every cent you play to slots, is most probably lost money and off from other things you might wanted to spend it, i think there are quite a lot information available and big majority of people don't think they get rich buy playing slots but just wanna have their little excitment in chance of win, like big majority of people can handle their alcohol and drug consuming and not ending up to be homeless addicts.

I can't just figure out many examples from history when banning or limiting something really strictly would get really good results, maybe there are but just failing to find these. In this one as well, more logical it would be make whole gambling illegal if want to send message that it's not ok and we don't want people to do that instead of making tons of silly regulations when trying to save people just be little bit addicted but not over £2 spins. It's quite small percent of people who really come to severe gambling addicts, is that small groups problem so huge that majority of people need to be limited because of them? There should be much more efficient way to help these people than trying to limit their doings which they easily can circumvent anyway.
 
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Just see these actions to be quite useless, people been gambling and lost their houses in card games etc... far as history can be see, that magic £2 max bet wouldn't stop any problem gambler from losing, with that bet size you can still lose hundreds in hour when many gambling addicts have ended up to situation that they gamble everything when they get money, their gambling budget might be relatively low as they spend everything, that £2 max bet wouldn't really help them. I think average disposable income in UK some years ago was £1850 or something, how long time you need to lose that to slots even with £2 bets? Not many days i guess.

Banning things haven't yet help in anything, there are more drug addicts than ever same time when laws against them have been made more strict in last 100 years or something. Alcohol was banned in many places, did it stop people drinking or did it create huge cashflow for criminals who were selling booze?

You can't force people not to bang their head to wall if they willing to do that, you can try to educate them and tell that it hearts and don't make good for you. Like people should be more educated that every cent you play to slots, is most probably lost money and off from other things you might wanted to spend it, i think there are quite a lot information available and big majority of people don't think they get rich buy playing slots but just wanna have their little excitment in chance of win, like big majority of people can handle their alcohol and drug consuming and not ending up to be homeless addicts.

I can't just figure out many examples from history when banning or limiting something really strictly would get really good results, maybe there are but just failing to find these. In this one as well, more logical it would be make whole gambling illegal if want to send message that it's not ok and we don't want people to do that instead of making tons of silly regulations when trying to save people just be little bit addicted but not over £2 spins. It's quite small percent of people who really come to severe gambling addicts, is that small groups problem so huge that majority of people need to be limited because of them? There should be much more efficient way to help these people than trying to limit their doings which they easily can circumvent anyway.
They are all valid points. Well the majority who haven't got a gambling problem as you say will still be able to play wont they? The 2 pound max stake shouldn't be an issue as well as all the people who like to put their 1 pound accumulators on each week for a bit of fun. Banning it completely might be a good thing for the high street shops as more people will go and this will create more jobs. Shops can be controlled more than online. You are true what you say but when the government bring in these new laws nobody can really do anything. Just carry on with it. It won't affect most people as you said so the vast majority of people who like to play can still do it.
 
People seem to forget about FOBT,s, the most evil machines ever made freely available for adults on every high street.
These operated almost uncontrolled for 17 years and the high st bookies opened new shops just to run as many of
these as possible,during this time the councils and the treasury made a fortune out of them.
With stakes of up to £100 to a spin on roullete, they must have created serious problems for thousands of people,
many popping in with the weeks pension or wages and walking out with nothing.Some of these people will have
migrated to online gaming when restrictions were finally brought in (they tried to delay that for 6 months due to
pressure from the treasury).
All that seems to have brushed under the carpet,the Governments never mention the fact they caused many
of the problems that they are now saying cost the NHS a fortune so I really dont go for the caring approach
they aŕe pretending to peddle now.Hypocrites is the mildest thing I can say about them
 
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People seem to forget about FOBT,s, the most evil machines ever made freely available for adults on every high street.
These operated almost uncontrolled for 17 years and the high st bookies opened new shops just to run as many of
these as possible,during this time the councils and the treasury made a fortune out of them.
With stakes of up to £100 to a spin on roullete, they must have created serious problems for thousands of people,
many popping in with the weeks pension or wages and walking out with nothing.Some of these people will have
migrated to online gaming when restrictions were finally brought in (they tried to delay that for 6 months due to
pressure from the treasury).
All that seems to have brushed under the carpet,the Governments never mention the fact they caused many
of the problems that they are now saying cost the NHS a fortune so I reallly dont go for the caring approach
they aŕe pretending to peddle now.Hypocrites is the mildest thing I can say about them
So they are basically trying to make up for their screw ups before? Which is wrong as in 17 years that would have ruined many peoples lives. These changes have come too late for these poor people. In fact one MP resigned over it. I can see why they want to change the law now bringing in 2 pound max stake, deposit limits, wagering limits per month etc to make sure they don't make the same mistakes as they did for the FOBTs. I am still surprised they didn't make the changes online at the same time as in shops. That was ridiculous really but I suppose later is better than never. Where will the streamers go now though? Very few streamers to 2 pounds or less, stop and step is the only one I think!
 
They are all valid points. Well the majority who haven't got a gambling problem as you say will still be able to play wont they? The 2 pound max stake shouldn't be an issue as well as all the people who like to put their 1 pound accumulators on each week for a bit of fun. Banning it completely might be a good thing for the high street shops as more people will go and this will create more jobs. Shops can be controlled more than online. You are true what you say but when the government bring in these new laws nobody can really do anything. Just carry on with it. It won't affect most people as you said so the vast majority of people who like to play can still do it.

There still is no any law made for max bets but these new regulations are reviewed so at the moment even gaming companies can make their voice heard and raise opinions about things they think are not good there. After that law one day is enforced, then it's difficult to change but in democracy there often are many ways to get your thoughts heard by instances who are preparing and then enforcing these laws.

Like mentioned in some earlier post, especially these big UK bookies do get their opinions heard, they haven't been lobbying and making friends years and years for nothing, of course not gonna get what you with money as that's corruption but in civilized countries, all voices usually are heard and from different pieces of information they try to get best resul as legislation.

I don't believe that they want to make something which don't work just cause of making it, if there are good enough arguments against and for alternative soutions to reduce harms better way, they are just not stupid and ignore all these other views and blindly do something what somebody thought is good idea but turned out that reality it's not.
 
There still is no any law made for max bets but these new regulations are reviewed so at the moment even gaming companies can make their voice heard and raise opinions about things they think are not good there. After that law one day is enforced, then it's difficult to change but in democracy there often are many ways to get your thoughts heard by instances who are preparing and then enforcing these laws.

Like mentioned in some earlier post, especially these big UK bookies do get their opinions heard, they haven't been lobbying and making friends years and years for nothing, of course not gonna get what you with money as that's corruption but in civilized countries, all voices usually are heard and from different pieces of information they try to get best resul as legislation.

I don't believe that they want to make something which don't work just cause of making it, if there are good enough arguments against and for alternative soutions to reduce harms better way, they are just not stupid and ignore all these other views and blindly do something what somebody thought is good idea but turned out that reality it's not.
I think they have exhausted all the possibilities with all the help and advice, time outs, gamstop even. But it is obvious that there are still loopholes and many many people are still suffering and the last option is to bring these changes in this year. I think they would have done it before but were hoping gamstop would sort it. It obviously hasn't so that is why they have said that the max stake will come in. I suppose it was their last choice but they are pressured into doing it. Well the last resort would be to ban it altogether but they can't really do that (they can, but they won't that should be). It will just mean that people will be sat there for longer doing 2 pound spins. But then there will still be wagering limits. In fact casinos have brought them in already before the law has actually been passed yet! They must know something we don't!
 
I think they have exhausted all the possibilities with all the help and advice, time outs, gamstop even. But it is obvious that there are still loopholes and many many people are still suffering and the last option is to bring these changes in this year. I think they would have done it before but were hoping gamstop would sort it. It obviously hasn't so that is why they have said that the max stake will come in. I suppose it was their last choice but they are pressured into doing it. Well the last resort would be to ban it altogether but they can't really do that (they can, but they won't that should be). It will just mean that people will be sat there for longer doing 2 pound spins. But then there will still be wagering limits. In fact casinos have brought them in already before the law has actually been passed yet! They must know something we don't!

Wagering limits are easy way for casinos to set limit somewhere what most of average people could lose and then just raise it from request with SOW, that's one quite easy way not to get troubles for allowing people gamble too mcuh. Been there for ages so no any new secret :) Of course there are loads of material which is shared only between regulator and industry and not available public, that would make it too easy to find loopholes from regulations, most of things published in UKGC website, have much more detailed rules and practices but these are not meant to be shared, loads of communication have this kind of text in them:

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Wagering limits are easy way for casinos to set limit somewhere what most of average people could lose and then just raise it from request with SOW, that's one quite easy way not to get troubles for allowing people gamble too mcuh. Been there for ages so no any new secret :) Of course there are loads of material which is shared only between regulator and industry and not available public, that would make it too easy to find loopholes from regulations, most of things published in UKGC website, have much more detailed rules and practices but these are not meant to be shared, loads of communication have this kind of text in them:

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Well it looks like things are about to get all mixed and mashed up! The casinos will not like it at all will they?? But the changes are imminent
 
Slight change of topic here but Nick must have some serious luck on his side, he won like £13k on DHV, was playing high stakes but gotta love his reactions, nearly as exciting as @dunover multi million pound bonus recently
 
Slight change of topic here but Nick must have some serious luck on his side, he won like £13k on DHV, was playing high stakes but gotta love his reactions, nearly as exciting as @dunover multi million pound bonus recently

Pftt.... he won £15k on a £20 spin.

Nowhere near my £13k on a £1 spin
 
Slight change of topic here but Nick must have some serious luck on his side, he won like £13k on DHV, was playing high stakes but gotta love his reactions, nearly as exciting as @dunover multi million pound bonus recently
Yeah inthink he said he was 15k up last year altogether. I saw that video. He managed it with disco balls!
 
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Definitely helps when you get 100% deposit bonuses with seemingly no max bets too!
That is true! All that free money and only 15k up ans he played every day! Stop and step did a stream yesterday with 3 to 4 pound stakes. He said he seems to get smaller wins (multiplier) the bigger the stake. The slots are all set up like that. 1 quid spin gave dunover 13k, would it have given 260k on 20 quid a go? No lol
 
Ahh that is incredible! Lucky to get that hit. Imagine if he would have increased the stake a bit more, could have won £1b!!
It was at Casumo though, so unfortunately they have asked for proof of wealth from his great great great great grandfather who made his money in 1792, that @dunover indirectly inherited £20 from and are refusing to pay unless he supplies his bank statements from back then.
 
It was at Casumo though, so unfortunately they have asked for proof of wealth from his great great great great grandfather who made his money in 1792, that @dunover indirectly inherited £20 from and are refusing to pay unless he supplies his bank statements from back then.

Naturally with selfie where person in question is holding it.
 
if they can't supply a photo then perhaps they can get a reference from the then prime minister in 1792? They will block the account as well. Then they will tell you that you might be self excluded. But if you deposit a further 10k they will think about allowing you to play but only as long as you lose it. If you make a profit then your account will be locked!
 
Don't be silly, he's a streamer now, it'll get approved and be in his bank by the end of the stream. He'll also show his bank statement on the next stream which will 100% confirm it was his money!
 
Don't be silly, he's a streamer now, it'll get approved and be in his bank by the end of the stream. He'll also show his bank statement on the next stream which will 100% confirm it was his money!
Like chip does at Nektan... hahaha sorry couldn’t resist.

I should respect the U.K. rosh more
 
Well, seems the bookies are out testing the waters now with the potential upcoming changes.

Got a survey for them and one of the questions was if they got a £2 bet limit, what would I do? I ticked the option to leave them and go somewhere else.

There was other questions about source of wealth, id etc too.
 
That is what is proposed. Try reading what they are expecting to do. If you type in expected changes on Google to the Gambling Act that is what they are going to push for and it looks like it will go through. Been on the cards for a while, just like FOBTs were. They got delayed then came in. Changes are coming.

Does anyone know if this will apply to just slots?? Or will this also be applied to Sports bets also?
 

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