New Version Of LOTR (Thread re-titled)

[Greigssy]

Played it.........got shafted! I miss the random stacked wild in the feature!

 

[H1_Roller]

Played it.........got shafted! I miss the random stacked wild in the feature!

This. The whole FS feature just felt dead. And as I mentioned; £10.30 from 18 spins (betting £1.50 per spin), all wins coming from Gollum adding tiny random amounts to my balance. Think I'll be changing my user title.

 

[De Beuker]

Yeah, if anyone thought the first version was high variance, then you havent played this one yet.
They grouped the high paying symbols together and added a multiplier to the free spins.
No more random wild (which made the FS so damn exiting)
No more Sauron on reel 3.
They also upped the payouts for 5oak on the low end of the paytable, at least 5x 10/J now pays 2x bet.
Not that I've seen a single 5oak during my extremely short session, lol.

The Gollum random wins seem pretty useless, the highest I got was 4x bet, most were 1.5 x bet..

Nice graphics, but probably MG's biggest moneysucker ever, unless you get extremely lucky..

So higher variance and reduced RTP because of the MM jackpots.
Not for me.

I'll miss the old LOTR... alot!!

Shame on you MG, shame on you!!

 

[LaHutti]

Agree with everyone else here....
And I think it's a big mistake for MG to try and boost their jackpots, to match higher jackpots in other casinos, by ruining a very popular slot.
NOT your best move MG.

 

[Slotaholic]

I must say that this new version sucks monkey *****.

But it makes choosing what game to play much easier,wont be putting many cents on this game.

 

[dingdingding]

Just for the fun of it I calculated my actual RTP on the (admittedly small sample size of) 150 EUR. Result was RTP=15,110357 ... anyone beat that?

Had no features though, neither gollum nor free spins...

Best regards,

dingdingding

 

[plasticnote]

I will not draw the conclusion very quickly. I will give more trys and a little bit time.
Like TSII, we saw the first 5 reel wilds after months of release.
-------------------------However-------------------------------------------------------
Yes, this game is not as exciting as the old one. And it takes money very fast.
I believe MG will continue monitoring the play and payout and maybe give a boost sometime
in the future.

This game has a very big drawback:
The autospin is stopped very often by the gollum feature.
And there is no settings in the option to stop this.

I hope MG can address this problem.
-------------------------result so far----------------------------------------------------
You can win on this game, yesterday night after the release, I put $250 in 32red and $400 in dash.
The peak point I was $300 ahead, after hiting 5OK with stacks of wilds plus the 3x in free spin.

This game have very big potential, but it takes big bankroll and a lot of time.


Cheers

 

[wewewewewe]

Some picas of the random jackpot...

Some screenies of the random jackpot.....

Hit this twice within 10 minutes. First one paying the silver jackpot..

 

[vinylweatherman]

Load of crap.

Tried it at £6 (max bet) and got endless dead spins and a few small wins, the biggest being £61. Max bet didn't trigger the bonus wheel either. Loads of 2 rings, but never the 3.

Base game RTP is probably around 88% in line with the other "Mega Moolah" slots.

What is REALLY odd is that MGS withdrew the original game, rather than simply adding the progressive version as a new one. When progressive versions of Isis, Summertime, and 5 Reel Drive were released, the original non-progressive games were NOT removed to be replaced.

The original press release indicated that a total of three LOTR games would be developed, implying that eventually there would be three variants available in the casino. It now seems that there will only ever be ONE variant available at any one time, and the final variant will probably be another progressive, but tweaked based on feedback from the current new release.

By removing the non-progressive, they are also forcing players who still want to play a LOTR game to play the progressive version, thus ensuring an increased rate of contributions to the "Mega Moolah" pool.

I expect this trend will continue, with MGS releasing further Mega Moolah linked versions of old games. Whether or not they have started a trend of removing the old game at the same time remains to be seen, as clearly it has been an unpopular move this time.

 

[Simmo!]

Hope no-one minds - I retitled the thread as i hadn't realised it was being used to review it too

I concur with the others - lovely to look at, hopeless to get a hit on. I'd say this was low variance, not high. Built for entertainment purposes and not for winning. Not one I'll be visiting very often but think it will have an audience - for a while anyway.

For those who can't play it, here's a video I made for SJ.

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I think they made a mistake with the progressive levels. Playtech and Marvel have it right IMO. Psychologically I see the 2nd level as achievable. On Marvel its usually 2.5 - 5k which actually incentivises me to have a play on those games. On LOTR it's currently $99 and the top 2 are pretty much 1 in a billion so there's no incentive: for me anyway.

Cheers,

Simmo!

 

[H1_Roller]

Load of crap

I couldn't agree more. I am genuinely devastated they've removed the old one. I don't even want to play at Ladbrokes anymore (where I've been made a bloody VIP). The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away

 

[plasticnote]

Hope no-one minds - I retitled the thread as i hadn't realised it was being used to review it too

I concur with the others - lovely to look at, hopeless to get a hit on. I'd say this was low variance, not high. Built for entertainment purposes and not for winning. Not one I'll be visiting very often but think it will have an audience - for a while anyway.

For those who can't play it, here's a video I made for SJ.

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(Sorry not sure how to embed!)

I think they made a mistake with the progressive levels. Playtech and Marvel have it right IMO. Psychologically I see the 2nd level as achievable. On Marvel its usually 2.5 - 5k which actually incentivises me to have a play on those games. On LOTR it's currently $99 and the top 2 are pretty much 1 in a billion so there's no incentive: for me anyway.

Cheers,

Simmo!

I think this is still a high variant slots, you could hit 2 - 5 times bigger than the old version.

What changed are the frequence of big hit.

And I do not think this slots will help the MM JP become bigger, rather, MG destroyed a most popular slots.

In my cycle(alot of pub players also play online), more and more start playing netENT.
We chat online JP, they think MM JP is too hard to hit on major and mega level. Many of them would put $100 on netENT JPs. In fact as a long time MG player, I playing more often on netENT JP.

MG seriously has to think of this move, not so wise.

this is my 2 cents

 

[deepsky2]

The exicting part playing was getting free spins and I loved the random wild in the free spins feature, I really miss that.
The new version has some cool features but taken some of the old features away in my mind destroyed the game they should of kept the old one and gave the player a choice. MGcould of done better what were they thinking?????

 

[colly]

Out of lnterest doethe casino's have a choice as to whether to retain version 1 or do they have to take the new one (perhaps a question Jetset or Simmo could answer)- if its choice perhaps something could be done to influence the casinos but I suspect its not. If the payouts anyhtng ike the truly awful land casino version of LOTR then it won't be seeing any of my money

I play old LOTR a lot and whie it can suck big time I've also had a lot of 1000 plus wins on this slot on 1.50 bets. When 32R announced this this AM I politely told them how I would be unlikely to play- a quick troll through my history would show I don't play mega progressives= they benfit an exceptionally lucky 1 person over the great majority of players. It will probably draw in some players but for me (and players like me who would like the big one but happy with the good paydays) its probably a mistake to dump the old LOTR.

I pretty much only play LOTR TS2 and stash of the Titans then hit the VP= I guess this means I will hit VP more and spemd less at the MC casino's.

 

[Simmo!]

Out of lnterest doethe casino's have a choice as to whether to retain version 1 or do they have to take the new one (perhaps a question Jetset or Simmo could answer).

Think I read that the old version is being retired and this one is coming in so there is no choice in the matter.

 

[me_and_ed]

What a total piece of crap!!!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Think I read that the old version is being retired and this one is coming in so there is no choice in the matter.

This is what I thought, but WHY!

Migrogaming have NEVER "retired" a game in order to release a newer version. When Tomb Raider II was released with many new features, there was no question of removing the original Tomb Raider slot, and it is still there. The same thing happened with Thunderstruck and Thunderstruck II. When it came to introducing progressive versions of games we saw the same thing, NO non-progressive versions were removed to "make way" for the progressive versions of Isis, Summertime, and 5 Reel Drive.

This is the FIRST time EVER that Microgaming have done this, yet this is clearly UNPOPULAR with players, yet MGS show they don't give a rat's ass whether this is "popular" or not, they went ahead and forced it on us all.

There is NO press release about this dramatic shift in policy, which in the past seems to have been to NEVER retire old games, but release a small number each month allowing Microgaming to be offered as the software that can offer far more individual games in one casino than any other brand, something it has always succeeded in doing with currently over 400 separate games available (mostly slots) in a full Viper suite.


Players and operators may think this is the start of a new policy, driven by the realisation that the current Viper fileset at some 12Gig is just too big, and needs to be slimmed down by retiring some of the older or less popular games on occasion.


there has to my knowledge only been one other instance of permanent retirement of a lobby game, and this at least seems to in part be a choice the operator can influence. It was about a dozen AWP games that got pulled from the download after a potential fault was identified with them running in a tabbed lobby. Whilst most were put back after being fixed, GeeGees and Treasure Ireland were permanently retired from the majority of MGS casinos' download product, and replaced with a few other AWP games brought in from the Flash casino. Some operators however, decided they wanted them back, and can thus boast two more games of the AWP type on offer than other operators.

The annoying thing is that these are two of the BEST games in that class, and I would have been less annoyed to see a couple of the others retired.

 

[Simmo!]

Players and operators may think this is the start of a new policy, driven by the realisation that the current Viper fileset at some 12Gig is just too big, and needs to be slimmed down by retiring some of the older or less popular games on occasion.

If that was the case they'd be more sensible going to the Crypto or RTG "choose what you download" model. I think it's simply a licensing issue but why the need to change it - that's the baffling bit

I think this is still a high variant slots, you could hit 2 - 5 times bigger than the old version.

What changed are the frequence of big hit.

Yeah you could be right there. On the first game MG released a data sheet that stated the volatility as "medium". Would be nice to get my hands on one for this version.

 

[DepositSpinLose]

who wants to bet that the 3.3 million will be won on this game? it was added just in time when the big one is going to pop.

 

[incrediblestuff]

hmm..

i tried it on 0.30, and i had done the same on the old version, but this gave me loads of big hits and was streaking like crazy, with like 4 features, where gollum added spins, increased wins by cash, and multiplier, and two progressives, also one silver and one bronze, and got me up to 120 from a 32 deposit, in 20 minutes.
so i like it more then the old version ^^

this was on 32 red and i must also say that when i raised my bet it started dropping as quick as it climbed, so i would say high variance is correct.

i like it!

 

[De Beuker]

hmm..

i tried it on 0.30, and i had done the same on the old version, but this gave me loads of big hits and was streaking like crazy, with like 4 features, where gollum added spins, increased wins by cash, and multiplier, and two progressives, also one silver and one bronze, and got me up to 120 from a 32 deposit, in 20 minutes.
so i like it more then the old version ^^

this was on 32 red and i must also say that when i raised my bet it started dropping as quick as it climbed, so i would say high variance is correct.

i like it!

You were betting 0.30 per spin and got the jackpotwheel TWICE in 20 minutes??

Do you have ANY IDEA how lucky you were??

Truly incrediblestuff! But congrats on the wins!

At least someone who likes it.

I still want the old version back.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Crap at GNUF as well

Deposited £400 and thought I would begin with the new offering. Started as expected with a long sequence of dead spins for what is billed as a "ways" machine of low/medium variance. Quit when down to £300. As it is a "Mega Moolah" progressive, I bet the max of £6. Maybe this does NOT work in the same way as RTG random jackpots, since each of the "Mega Moolah" linked games have different max bets, with a bet of almost £15 being possible on 5 Reel Drive. Curiously, I have NEVER triggered the wheel on max bet, but have had it mostly when betting in the middle of the range, even if always giving the minor for around £10 to £20.

It would probably be better if it wasn't progressive, and the 7% RTP paid into the pool was used in the base game payouts, just as it was on the old version (which was also crap by the way).

I am not really going to miss the old one, but I AM worried that this is going to start a trend of MGS retiring games from now on, probably the ones I like but few others do, like the Fruit Machines

In any case after realising it ws just as crap at GNUF, I went back to my usual games, and after a near bust out managed to turn it into £4000, with £2000 of that being arrested in my final game on the Cops & Robbers fruit machine, which gave me a couple of "hints" by suddenly dropping 2x lemons and 2x 7s before going stone cold. Unlike a cold video slot, I know that with the fruities this dead spell after such a run means only one thing - it's gonna POP! So I kept going back for short bursts until it gave me a feature, which went all the way

I would prefer MGS NOT to retire these games.

 

[Fleur-De-Lis]

I was like totally shocked today to see completely new LOTR when logged in. Free spins now is a joke I want the old ones back....
There was one lovely hit though, which did not involve any of the "new, improved" features

 

[hausse222]

Oh, i see, you took all the wilds away, that nobody of us get anymore

 

[Scooter7]

Cheaper and/or easier than putting in new content?

Call me a cynic, but maybe they didn't leave the old game running because they wanted to reuse all of the same footage and animations instead of culling new clips from the films?