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New Jersey Internet Gaming

Discussion in 'Casino Industry Discussion' started by P.V., Jun 16, 2013.

    Jun 16, 2013
  1. P.V.

    P.V. Senior Member webmeister

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    The Division of Gaming Enforcement has released proposed regulations for Internet gaming inside New Jersey along with a bunch of additional information for anyone who might be following this.

    It's quite informative, here's the link: You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  2. Aug 1, 2013
  3. mikke47

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    Thanks, do you have any similar information about other states?
     
  4. Aug 2, 2013
  5. P.V.

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    Currently just online poker in Nevada, Delaware lottery will be coming online soon with all games along with New Jersey.

    It's a slow process but many states will get onboard eventually.

    New Jersey is the one to watch, I've actually applied for an Ancillary Casino Service providers license there. :D

    Just note you must be inside these states to gamble but you don't have to live there.

    As for other states just keep following the press, it's just a matter of time IMO. ;)
     
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  6. Aug 2, 2013
  7. Westland Bowl

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    Is the way New Jersey is going to provide online gambling within their state is for satellite gambling parlors to open throughout New Jersey to provide online gambling? Must ALL players be PHYSICALLY present within the state in order to gamble online? Say if I log into a particular New Jersey gambling parlor's website from another state, will that work? Must all players be physically present in the gambling parlor? Will these gambling parlors be state owned?
     
  8. Aug 3, 2013
  9. P.V.

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    The N.J. casino's will be licensed and run online gambling site's which can be played on from anywhere as long as you're located inside the state boarders while playing. You don't have to be a resident of the state, just like Nevada poker but you must be inside the state boarders and you can play.

    As this spreads you'll probably see Nevada form a pact with N.J. first and then if you live in N.J and want to play on a Nevada poker site you would be allowed and people within Nevada would be allowed to play on all the N.J. gaming sites too.

    This could really spread where many states will be connected making poker pools bigger and giving U.S. players traveling too or living in licensed states more options.
     
  10. Aug 3, 2013
  11. Bullajami

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    I like that scenario. When it gets big enough the states will be forcing the federal government to finally get out of the stone age wrt online gambling. Even the most puritanical congressmen won't be able to stand it when the states are collecting revenues the fed isn't. :p
     
  12. Aug 3, 2013
  13. Simmo!

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    You might find You must register/login in order to see the link. on the first ancillary licence to be awarded interesting PV.

    Good luck with yours :thumbsup:
     
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  14. Aug 4, 2013
  15. P.V.

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    Thanks for the support Simmo! :)

    I think this company was the first to apply per the article but don't believe anyone has been approved to date, not sure. I read somewhere that N.J. has received over 37 license applications but didn't identify each by sector, so not sure how many are casino's vs. other type providers.

    From what I seeing, might be some good info. to post within this thread, here's what the states are currently requiring.

    1. During registration you'll need to insert your information and this will be ran through Government databases to see if it matches.

    2. Your IP address will be checked but since this isn't full proof additional measures must be taken such as geo location, hard doc's.

    3. Just like offshore they require hard document requests such as D.L., passport, utility bill etc..

    I've been following the geo location process and it can be a mess at times.

    You must have an active cell phone, it must be on while gambling online. A text will be sent from time to time and you must reply to show you're still within the state. They also have a buffer zone around the border, so even if you're located inside a licensed state if you're outside the buffer zone you can't gamble.

    Furthermore if you're inside the buffer zone there's a chance your cell provider might bounce you off a tower located over the border making it appear like you're not located within the state and the same applies with internet companies and your IP address.

    This process must get better, I think it's a great idea but too many things can go wrong. Cell towers constantly go down, it would be disappointing to be on a hot streak and then have to stop because your phone couldn't be verified by a geo locator company during play, JMO. :eek2:
     
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  16. Aug 4, 2013
  17. jetset

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    Lordy, those geolocation requirements (cell phone always on, periodic checks, border areas etc) must have been devised by a politician!

    Even checking in every session would be better than that.
     
  18. Aug 4, 2013
  19. Simmo!

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    Maybe all online gamblers should have to wear an electronic tag LOL.
     
  20. Aug 4, 2013
  21. Stovetopp

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    hi P.V
    Thanks for all this info Very onformative
    The excerpt below is confusing

    "The N.J. casino's will be licensed and run online gambling site's which can be played on from anywhere as long as you're located inside the state boarders while playing. You don't have to be a resident of the state, just like Nevada poker but you must be inside the state boarders and you can play."

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    If I were to visit A friend in the boondocks of NJ and bring my computer am I allowed to play in NJ?


    Obviously I would have to register first. Will I be allowed to register living in a state other than NJ and Nevada?

    Will my IP address indicate I am actually in NJ?
     
  22. Aug 4, 2013
  23. P.V.

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    Yes to the first two questions.

    Yes, but if using your friends Internet connection I'd make sure they don't have an account because their IP might appear the same making the casino think something odds going on. You'd need to check with them about that.

    Of course you could always use a Wi-Fi connection as long as the IP is within the state border. :thumbsup:
     
  24. Aug 5, 2013
  25. luckiestgambler

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    so the US is opening up once again. definitely, a lot will follow NJ. i wonder when will this be approved. anyway, you can also use mobile data since the IP will be registered under that state, right?
     
  26. Aug 5, 2013
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    Currently no mobile devises allowed.
     
  28. Aug 6, 2013
  29. luckiestgambler

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    in this day and age, they should allow mobile devices. though most people still uses their computers for online gambling. but i think they'll get more revenue if they allow it.
     
  30. Aug 6, 2013
  31. jetset

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    Latest changes to New Jersey online gambling regulations:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  32. Aug 6, 2013
  33. nisosbar

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    One of the interesting provisions of this code of conduct is something which may seem petty - the requirement that: if an igaming platform is operating in NJ as an approved casino, then for any game offered online in FREE play for which the casino offers REAL play also, the RTP% ('payout percentage') of the FREE play must be identical or worse than the RTP% for REAL play.

    In other words, misleading players into thinking that a certain online game is 'loose' by making it pay out huge in free play while operating the corollary real money game with tighter payouts in real play - in the hope that potential customers who are testing games will deposit (the timeworn bait-and-switch ruse) - is important enough to NJ gaming authorities that they see fit to include a provision against such practices in their new code of conduct.

    We've had heated discussions here on CM about this, and I believe there is even an Accredited Casino rule here about this, as well.
     
  34. Aug 7, 2013
  35. Westland Bowl

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    From a player's perspective, I'd like to know how the casinos will manage the play. Will they run the online casino like their land casino? Like...will they up the minimum bet limit if I have a hot winning session? Will they narrow the spread between minimum and maximum bet limits? Or will they simply just shut down the online session? If I win a lot online, will they ban me from their land casino? Will they give comps usable in the land casino?

    What will the online casino versions bet limits be? Same as the land casinos? Start at $5 or $10 or $25? No $1 minimum bets? Will the limits fluctuate during the day like they do in the land casinos?
     
  36. Aug 7, 2013
  37. nisosbar

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    I'm just a dumb player like anyone else, but from what I understand, casinos in Atlantic City are not permitted to unilaterally ban anyone arbitrarily, i.e., if they want to ban you, they need a legitimate reason (you are a violent criminal, you stole chips from other players, etc.), and being on a hot streak is not a legitimate reason to ban a player from the casino.

    It's a different story in Nevada where, from what I further understand, casinos can ban you for any reason or for no reason (kind of like employment-at-will).
     
  38. Aug 7, 2013
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    Nevada / N.J. online compact in 2014

    MGM Resorts International is working with Nevada officials who are discussing banding together with New Jersey to create a joint online gaming market, CEO Jim Murren told Reuters in an interview.


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