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TheAddict said:
The amountof times I'd get the invincible, nudge in a win, get another invincible, get offered to nudge in another win, but opt for numbers instead, grr.I played it for months, knowing it could do multiple invincibles, but not knowing it can go unlimited lol. Only found out why very late lol.

Always found the reelskill for barcode to be a bitch on this one, had to line it up perfect or it loved a jump. m3mories!
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This was back in my clueless addict days so I was just one of the chumps filling the machines up for players in 'the know' to take my money straight back out :D

Maygay's were worse than most in the £8/£10 era though, and as became clearer in later years, this was because their code was often cataclysmically bad.

Donkey Kong is a good example of that!
 
Jono777 said:
Halfway thru the video.....

Considering the amount of empties and other exploits I got to take advantage of over the years, I TOTALLY missed out on this one :mad:

There were loads of these in and near Wolverhampton too lol :o
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It was pretty difficult to find Donkey Kongs that weren't covered once the method had been circulating for a bit, comments on the video from players in the day who say that they could travel some fairly sizeable distances and just find one machine after another totally on its arse.

So it's possible you might not have missed much, depending on how well covered your area was!
 
Seems like a few folks didn't know about this one, (me included!), a slightly naughty emptier for Barcrest's 'The Crystal Maze' that very specifically only worked on the £8 token jackpot.

 
Things to do right now so will take a watch later...

However quick post beforehand, These were literally everywhere back in that era and VERY popular, another one I didn't know about and judging by the fact I'd often find good value in them, no one else, in and around Wolverhampton did either.
 
Jono777 said:
Don't feel so bad missing out now I've finally watched your video, good video btw :thumbsup:

Will publicly admit, I was WAY too 'scared' to ever do anything plugging related back in the day, even if the risk was minimal :o
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I cannot tell a lie, if I'd have known about plugging/sparking back in the day, and I figured I'd be able to get away with it, I think I would have done it.

In my later 'proper' fruit machine career, when I could actually make money at it, I plugged if I had to, I remember a Lotta Luck that had a few 'unexpected power issues' when it was trying to force jackpots on me during the invincible knockbacks....
 
If I'm being entirely honest this video could actually be considered compete with the thumbnail and text, but that doesn't stop me rattling on for 37 minutes about refill keys.

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Jono777 said:
Must admit, when I saw the thumbnail on my YT page, my thoughts were exactly the same as harry2.01 :p
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It just needs a dash of my trademark 'conversational style' :D
 
Long video but it's all fully timecoded (right down to individual features).

If you want to see the random £500s do a piece of work on Chopley's gentle soul, this is the video for you!

Features a special guest from Desert Island Fruits who came to the IOM to visit me :)

 
PMKFRUITPRO said:
That streak on vamp was the free one.

Except the extra £10 after the first £25.

Terrible knowledge of reels and safe squares!!!!!
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Profit is still profit!

Sometimes it's all about just styling it out and shaking off the shackles of convention.
 
Part Two of the two day session from the previous video. Hammering away at £2 per spin games running on 92%-90% was clearly a bit of a shady proposition....

 
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Sort of wrapping up the discussion points from the two previous videos, and some of my final thoughts about it all, as well as a nostalgic look at Screen Play and a heartfelt thanks for the joy of fruit machine emulation.

 
The biggest problem by far now is the stake to jackpot ratio, 20p £4.80 is 24x £1 £100 is obviously 100x

I had this discussion a while back and did actually work on a random 5 line game £1 stake £25 repeater jackpot, but it never went anywhere as they said no player would play a £1 stake £25 jackpot machine :( but a few friends liked it as it had “plenty of action” which obviously it could with that ratio
 
I'd say the title and thumbnail for this one are pretty self-explanatory.

This video is trying to explain, by building up the scenarios from a simple coin toss all the way up to online slots, how entirely random games can have a solidly defined RTP, but also do sneaky stuff in how they present their results.

 
ChopleyIOM said:
I'd say the title and thumbnail for this one are pretty self-explanatory.

This video is trying to explain, by building up the scenarios from a simple coin toss all the way up to online slots, how entirely random games can have a solidly defined RTP, but also do sneaky stuff in how they present their results.

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I dont want to be pedantic here but your not 100% correct when it comes to ,say a finite number of physical scratch cards. If you start with 3 million cards that were in circulation, then the rtp % will vary continually as the scratchers are bought.

If its like jammin jars where the 'scratchcard' if you will is replaced every time then the rtp will remain the same. Does that make sense?
 
philderby said:
I dont want to be pedantic here but your not 100% correct when it comes to ,say a finite number of physical scratch cards. If you start with 3 million cards that were in circulation, then the rtp % will vary continually as the scratchers are bought.

If its like jammin jars where the 'scratchcard' if you will is replaced every time then the rtp will remain the same. Does that make sense?
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Not to mention that each location that the “run” is split into will all have their own RTP, which can be very very low like 10% RTP low!

As chops originally said they are a dreadful proposition as far as having a gamble goes.
 
philderby said:
I dont want to be pedantic here but your not 100% correct when it comes to ,say a finite number of physical scratch cards. If you start with 3 million cards that were in circulation, then the rtp % will vary continually as the scratchers are bought.

If its like jammin jars where the 'scratchcard' if you will is replaced every time then the rtp will remain the same. Does that make sense?
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Yes this is true but remember my main objective with the video was to try and finally put to bed the assertion that 'random games can't have an RTP', I went with including scratchcards in the mix because they're something I think everyone in the UK can identify with, especially the National Lottery ones. (According to the analytics for my channel, the vast majority of my viewership is from the UK.)

As I recall, with the physical scratchcards they remove the line from sale once all the jackpot cards in a particular line have been claimed, as to sell them beyond that would be false advertising as the top claimed prize could no longer be won.

Also in the video I explicitly make it clear that mathematically, exhausting all the cards in a run on a 'knockout' basis, or simply picking results out randomly from a never changing pool of the same results, once the sample size gets large enough, is ultimately the same RTP result.

Either way they're a diabolical proposition for the player and probably the single worst way anyone could have a gamble! Save except for the ticket machines in Blackpool perhaps :D
 
Reelsoffun said:
Not to mention that each location that the “run” is split into will all have their own RTP, which can be very very low like 10% RTP low!

As chops originally said they are a dreadful proposition as far as having a gamble goes.
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I always slightly wondered how they made sure the 'jackpot' cards were randomly distributed, and not for example, 'There's definitely one in Didsbury if we go and buy all those'......
 
A single old BFM fruit machine for this video, however it contains quite a bit of extra chat around the TV series itself (hands up if you fancied Gaby Roslin!) and also the tale of a sinister thieving barman who did shenanigans with the machine to steal my money.

 
ChopleyIOM said:
I'm done with shitty RTP, high stake pub machines, they can officially fuck off after yesterday.

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Lol...the penny's dropped at last!

Boring, inane rip-off garbage B2s, I had a sick feeling watching that £300 spunked, felt painful.

That's not entertainment, nevermind 'cops 'n robbers' more like 'robbers 'n robbers'.

You stuck 5x that £500 crap-pot in the bank off of a 40p spin on TFC.

Do yourself a favour and do not darken the note receiver in one of those machines ever again..... :thumbsup:
 
dunover said:
Lol...the penny's dropped at last!

Boring, inane rip-off garbage B2s, I had a sick feeling watching that £300 spunked, felt painful.

That's not entertainment, nevermind 'cops 'n robbers' more like 'robbers 'n robbers'.

You stuck 5x that £500 crap-pot in the bank off of a 40p spin on TFC.

Do yourself a favour and do not darken the note receiver in one of those machines ever again..... :thumbsup:
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Better late than never!

It's a shame really because I think the pub deserves better in terms of what entertainments should be available, I'm old enough to remember when you'd have low stake/low prize fruit machines, quiz machines, videogames, pinballs, all sorts of stuff.

And what do we have now? Little mini fucking casinos running shit RTP machines that demand massive stakes to get their miserly 'top' RTP, that cap out at 250x.

For my money the regulation around these things is far too lax, and the appropriateness of them being sited in pubs needs to be revisited.
 
I’ve commented before on what I feel is ur complete spawn in continuously getting away with playing this shite .

Even when you haven’t won you’ve somehow managed to make money last several hours and come away with something. Even busting out with £300 playing at £2 a spin over a whole days punting to me is complete spawn of the highest order.

Finally you get what I’ve considered the ‘norm’ and you’ve had it coming. It’s taken a pretty meagre loss (150x) without any entertainment just once to make you quit. I dread to think how often that happens to the poor addicts that play this filth.

You’ve made the right decision by the way, some of those games are fucking disgusting. Some of the compensated ones on certain terminals are put on in such a disgustingly filthy state on the top stakes to DELIBERATELY rob the poor fuckers of deep into 4 figures before even showing just a sign of life. These games in question are seeded that way across thousands of terminals and all the providers are guilty of it. It’s criminal.

Scandaloys what is allowed to go on tbh.

This is not a dig at you personally in the slightest. But watching your vids is so tilty too somebody who really understands how shockingly bad those games can be.
 
PMKFRUITPRO said:
I’ve commented before on what I feel is ur complete spawn in continuously getting away with playing this shite .

Even when you haven’t won you’ve somehow managed to make money last several hours and come away with something. Even busting out with £300 playing at £2 a spin over a whole days punting to me is complete spawn of the highest order.

Finally you get what I’ve considered the ‘norm’ and you’ve had it coming. It’s taken a pretty meagre loss (150x) without any entertainment just once to make you quit. I dread to think how often that happens to the poor addicts that play this filth.

You’ve made the right decision by the way, some of those games are fucking disgusting. Some of the compensated ones on certain terminals are put on in such a disgustingly filthy state on the top stakes to DELIBERATELY rob the poor fuckers of deep into 4 figures before even showing just a sign of life. These games in question are seeded that way across thousands of terminals and all the providers are guilty of it. It’s criminal.

Scandaloys what is allowed to go on tbh.

This is not a dig at you personally in the slightest. But watching your vids is so tilty too somebody who really understands how shockingly bad those games can be.
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The volatility on that first one he played, the 3-reeler whatever-it-was, was absolutely vile considering the £2 stake cost and max 250x top win. It was like 25 spins with a £2 win, then dropped £20, repeat and repeat losing approx £2 for every 10 spins played at £2 with virtually no variation in the sequence.

That's not gambling, or fun, it's just pernicious money-raking.

The shamrocky-seamus-clover-paddy game he played was like nothing I ever saw - dead spin afted dead spin, paying £20 for 10 spins that most of the time yielded 0-£4 back - it would not be an exaggeration to say that in a race where one guy has his £20 note poised to go in the note receiver and the other has his in his hand with a cigarette lighter lit, that the one who ignites the corner of the note will have more of it left after 60 seconds than the guy who gets his in the machine and does 10 autoplay spins. :mad:
 
The first one he played(party time) is compensated. I can assure you there are miles worse out there than that. He was actually £30 up in a heartbeat tbf. But at £2 a spin they can be brutal. I’ve know the £1 a go £100 jackpot s want close to £500 for a single feature. The features usually aren’t too bad tbf but you can imagine the flip side of that!!!

Like nothing you ever saw you say!!! You’ve not a clue mate. That’s perfectly normal I can assure you. I’m amazed he’s had that many sessions to see that kind of thing.

There are £100 jackpots seeded (put on in a vile state from reset) that will quite happily want £400-£700 to show anything above 20x. I could only imagine that if the £2 stake £500 jackpots are anything similar you could easily do £1500 to see a poor returning feature.

No joke.
 
Summary, Chopley you always come across as an educated and intelligent guy, avoiding low online RTP's playing within a budget to list just two quick examples.....


Then you go and play these abominations :confused:

The only time I went (not done for years) anywhere near these was in "shares" with my mate when Quicksilver (Admiral) used to send out the SMS match play offers, where basically it would cost me a tenner to start off with a £40 machine balance and an outside chance of a win or at least good chance to break even.
 
PMKFRUITPRO said:
The first one he played(party time) is compensated. I can assure you there are miles worse out there than that. He was actually £30 up in a heartbeat tbf. But at £2 a spin they can be brutal. I’ve know the £1 a go £100 jackpot s want close to £500 for a single feature. The features usually aren’t too bad tbf but you can imagine the flip side of that!!!

Like nothing you ever saw you say!!! You’ve not a clue mate. That’s perfectly normal I can assure you. I’m amazed he’s had that many sessions to see that kind of thing.

There are £100 jackpots seeded (put on in a vile state from reset) that will quite happily want £400-£700 to show anything above 20x. I could only imagine that if the £2 stake £500 jackpots are anything similar you could easily do £1500 to see a poor returning feature.

No joke.
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Well I admit I have next to bugger-all knowledge of these machines other than YT videos. I last played one at least 2 decades ago and I'm pretty sure that £1 a spin would yield £500 jackpots back then, although I do remember the £2 option that would open certain features up?

I can remember playing a Pink Panther one and Rainbow Riches and another that just had 7's on the reels. I also remember hitting a full screen of 25x for 5OAK Rainbow Riches symbols for a £500 jp, on the Pink Panther one it emptied after getting a full screen of some blue things for £500 and not long after hit the top £500 prize on the top cash spin feature.

I'm pretty sure back then you get £500 from £1 spins unlike now it seems. And it was all in coins.

Since then I've had only experience of slots in the kids' holidays years ago when little, where they were 10p and down to 70% and land-based in London and Amsterdam and Berlin. Which in London are just as bad as what Choppers plays.
 
philderby said:
Ahhh Quicksilver, there used to be one in Derby a real grotty damp old building full of granny OXO machines. Closed in around 2006 I think. Not seen any since. I remember the signage outside was young people having a great time giant smiles on their faces and it was the polar opposite inside haha
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If you wanted cheering up you were better going to a funeral rather than a Quicksilver, horrible places with miserable staff with a chip on their shoulder...they would genuinely ban you for daring to win a jackpot because that meant you must have been scamming the machine!

Admiral bought them out and rebranded them all hence you get the weird situation in many areas where you have an Admiral a 2 minute walk from an Admiral

Luckily Merkur came onto the scene to replace the void left by 'horrible places with miserable staff with a chip on their shoulder' (and the ironic image of a happy smiling sun logo on the outside)
 
Jono777 said:
Summary, Chopley you always come across as an educated and intelligent guy, avoiding low online RTP's playing within a budget to list just two quick examples.....


Then you go and play these abominations :confused:

The only time I went (not done for years) anywhere near these was in "shares" with my mate when Quicksilver (Admiral) used to send out the SMS match play offers, where basically it would cost me a tenner to start off with a £40 machine balance and an outside chance of a win or at least good chance to break even.
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Me and Onetec were getting watched like a hawk by the staff in Darlington Admiral Saturday Evening.
Twelve Bar X things in there with 2 of them being on £100 and they were all off their tits.
Must have been played a lot during the day.
So when you coming to Pool? :laugh:
 
Jd666 said:
Me and Onetec were getting watched like a hawk by the staff in Darlington Admiral Saturday Evening.
Twelve Bar X things in there with 2 of them being on £100 and they were all off their tits.
Must have been played a lot during the day.
So when you coming to Pool? :laugh:
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Hey Mate...

Yeah we used to get scrutinised a lot back in the arcade days, especially Queen Street Arcade Wolverhampton, they REALLY did not like winners and hated clued up punters, really relying on the mug punters, which there were plenty of back then.

I do really want to get there and SOON lol. Trouble is as you're aware disposable cash is very low and limited these days and has been for a while, also thinking about it would also most likely have to take the train as wouldn't want to risk my poor old car that sort of distance lol :o

Bumped into my old gambling buddy as recent as last week and he mentioned a trip to Bpool and even stopping a night so we could punt some more the next morning, even offered to drive and cover my B&B money so it could happen with a bit of luck.........
 
Jono777 said:
Hey Mate...

Yeah we used to get scrutinised a lot back in the arcade days, especially Queen Street Arcade Wolverhampton, they REALLY did not like winners and hated clued up punters, really relying on the mug punters, which there were plenty of back then.

I do really want to get there and SOON lol. Trouble is as you're aware disposable cash is very low and limited these days and has been for a while, also thinking about it would also most likely have to take the train as wouldn't want to risk my poor old car that sort of distance lol :o

Bumped into my old gambling buddy as recent as last week and he mentioned a trip to Bpool and even stopping a night so we could punt some more the next morning, even offered to drive and cover my B&B money so it could happen with a bit of luck.........
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Give us a shout if you do
 
As we are talking about shipleys/Quicksilvers ive had a thought the last week or so. I regularly get match offers from playland (1x £10 at weekends and 1x £5 mon-thurs). Theres also a new Murker opened up last week, went in to sign up to their match offers also and they have an app with match bonuses.

These are 1x playthrough so presuming I can get say another £30- £50 a month match from Murker then if I just play the 1x playthrough regardless of the outcome this will be very positive ev to the tune of 90% of the match play over an infinite amount of spins?
 
Funny how Merkur in German means 'mercury' which is known in English as quicksilver. An element that is very slippery and toxic to health.
 
philderby said:
As we are talking about shipleys/Quicksilvers ive had a thought the last week or so. I regularly get match offers from playland (1x £10 at weekends and 1x £5 mon-thurs). Theres also a new Murker opened up last week, went in to sign up to their match offers also and they have an app with match bonuses.

These are 1x playthrough so presuming I can get say another £30- £50 a month match from Murker then if I just play the 1x playthrough regardless of the outcome this will be very positive ev to the tune of 90% of the match play over an infinite amount of spins?
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Playland?

Which one, do you happen to know the owners name.

May sound daft questions but that's where I spent most of my early gambling 'career' in their Wolverhampton branch. They got so used to us, offered us all the 'dirty' jobs their staff preferred not to have to do and paid us (very well) in tokens lol.
 
philderby said:
Its on Albert street in Derby. I dont know the owners name. 25 years ago id have done the same more than likely lol
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Oh ok, cheers

Empty Ash trays, polish machines, empty bins, collect all used drinks cups, hoover, wash windows, clean bingo boards (nightmare with those little sliders covered in ash and other stuff) wondered why they even had staff lol.

Each Wednesday, I had to be at the arcade for 8.45am sharp and pull all machines forward away from the wall so they could refloat them, eventually I was "allowed (lol)" to refloat token tubes only and manager would follow me round and do cash tubes, Took about 2 hours and this job alone would get me a cheeky £10'er and about £40 - £50 worth of 20p tokens which back then with my "shark-ability" skills was awesome, Breakfast and 10 Embassy No.1 from the tenner and on a good day, leaving late afternoon £100 better off from the tokens :D
 

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