More Golden Palace stoopid

[The Dude]

I guess they did it again - send a streaker to the Olympics <yawn>

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The goofy thing is that they did this in spite of a fine and condemnation that they received for the Summer Olympic streaker interruption.

From Kahnawake's news section:

KGC Investigates Golden Palace

In the past two weeks, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission (KGC) has received numerous complaints concerning an incident at the Olympic Games in Athens involving a person who streaked an event displaying the name of one of the KGCs permit holders: Golden Palace.

The KGC did not approve or condone the incident in question and does not approve or condone this type of marketing by its permit holders.

After investigating the Athens incident and meeting with representatives of Golden Palace, the KGC has directed that:

1. Golden Palace will not use, promote, encourage or fund this type of marketing ever again, and

2. Given the seriousness of the incident and the negative effect it has had on the communitys reputation, Golden Palace will make a substantial donation to Kahnawake organizations to be identified by the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake.

The KGC is satisfied with Golden Palaces cooperation throughout and considers the matter closed.

For further information, contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commission at 450-635-1076.

Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake
3 September, 2004

I guess Golden Palace couldn't care less of what their licensing jurisdiction thinks. Doesn't say much for Golden Palace or the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

 

[The Dude]

Updated:

https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/

 

[Simmo!]

I guess they did it again - send a streaker to the Olympics <yawn>

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The goofy thing is that they did this in spite of a fine and condemnation that they received for the Summer Olympic streaker interruption.

From Kahnawake's news section:

KGC Investigates Golden Palace

In the past two weeks, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission (KGC) has received numerous complaints concerning an incident at the Olympic Games in Athens involving a person who ‘streaked’ an event displaying the name of one of the KGC’s permit holders: Golden Palace.

The KGC did not approve or condone the incident in question and does not approve or condone this type of ‘marketing’ by its permit holders.

After investigating the Athens incident and meeting with representatives of Golden Palace, the KGC has directed that:

1. Golden Palace will not use, promote, encourage or fund this type of ‘marketing’ ever again, and

2. Given the seriousness of the incident and the negative effect it has had on the community’s reputation, Golden Palace will make a substantial donation to Kahnawake organizations to be identified by the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake.

The KGC is satisfied with Golden Palace’s cooperation throughout and considers the matter closed.

For further information, contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commission at 450-635-1076.

Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake
3 September, 2004

I guess Golden Palace couldn't care less of what their licensing jurisdiction thinks. Doesn't say much for Golden Palace or the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

Call me a cynic, but if I were a competitor of GP and had a massive todger*, wouldn't it be worth tattooing** their name on it and streaking at the olympics just to get them in more trouble***?


* in no way implies that i haven't. Or have. Whichever
** henna obviously!
*** i wouldn't personally

 

[Sodax77]

Call me a cynic, but if I were a competitor**** of GP and had a massive todger*, wouldn't it be worth tattooing** their name on it and streaking at the olympics just to get them in more trouble***?


* in no way implies that i haven't. Or have. Whichever
** henna obviously!
*** i wouldn't personally

****
888.com

or

www.SouthBeachPalaceCasino.com

 

[Slotster!]

Call me a cynic, but if I were a competitor of GP and had a massive todger*, wouldn't it be worth tattooing** their name on it and streaking at the olympics just to get them in more trouble***?


* in no way implies that i haven't. Or have. Whichever
** henna obviously!
*** i wouldn't personally

I did PM Ed and Pat to see if they wanted to take me up on a similar promotional stunt which read "32RED - The Best online Casino bar none, visit us today at 32red.com, you won't be disappointed"

But they strangely never got back to me...

 

[caruso]

This isn't so much about Golden Palace, who have been beneath contempt for years. This really speaks volumes for Kahnawake: clearly, Golden Palace are well aware that they face no repercussions for this kind of behaviour; if they were to, they would be in serious trouble - Kahnawake has already said they must not do this again!

What Golden Palace have done here is to rather kindly prove to us that the "Kahnawake Gaming Commission" is no more than another PR whitewash joke, who have no teeth whatsoever and are regarded by contempt as a genuine authority by their biggest seal-holders - because if they were anything else, Golden Palace would treat their "rulings" with respect, and while they might indulge in more baby-buying or whatever other stunts they've done, they most certainly would NEVER sail this close to the wind by sabotaging another olympic games, as this was the exact same incident that incurred the "warning" last time.

Thanks for at least confirming this for us, Golden Palace.

 

[The Dude]

They also had some bozo jump up on stage during the closing ceremony.
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Maybe when they meant "never do this again" they meant never to do this again at the 2004 Summer Olympics

 

[vinylweatherman]

Kahnawake

I find it hard to accept that Kahnawake will issue another slap on the wrist for this. They are trying to tie together with eCogra, so I would hope that a swift investigation will take place, and if found guilty of sanctioning this stunt, Golden Palace would be asked to find an alternative licensing authority.
I am sure the US Senate have heard of this, and I expect this might influence the debate, and vote, of the next bill attempting to put a stop to online casinos.
If Kahwanake simply roll over and take this latest insult, there reputation will be seriously harmed, and they will be seen as just another "juristiction of convenience" for the casinos.
The UK will offer a more robust regulatory framework from 2007, Golden Palace need not apply

 

[Simmo!]

I did PM Ed and Pat to see if they wanted to take me up on a similar promotional stunt which read "32RED - The Best online Casino bar none, visit us today at 32red.com, you won't be disappointed"

But they strangely never got back to me...

You may have big balls slotster, but you probably need to cut the text length down for them to take you seriously Either that or they've seen you naked and realised you aren't exactly Patsy Kensit


Anyway....with all due respect to KGC, ECOGRA etc etc, we shouldn't deflect attention from the fact that GP is a business that has gone out its way to disrupt a sporting event that represents the dreams and years of hard work for lots of people. Its just totally disrespectful IMO.

 

[Macgyver]

I did PM Ed and Pat to see if they wanted to take me up on a similar promotional stunt which read "32RED - The Best online Casino bar none, visit us today at www.32red.com, you won't be disappointed"

But they strangely never got back to me...

Maybe because all it would have read would have been "32pointed"????

Man, I couldn't resist that one, even this early in the morning for me.

 

[Simmo!]

Maybe because all it would have read would have been "32pointed"????

Man, I couldn't resist that one, even this early in the morning for me.

Or "3d" Or if he'd actually been appointed by Golden palace CasinO... or sponsored by our own TIm5NY

 

[johnsteed]

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Slotster!

I did PM Ed and Pat to see if they wanted to take me up on a similar promotional stunt which read "32RED - The Best online Casino bar none, visit us today at 32red.com, you won't be disappointed"

Geez, what about those of us how already have 32red "tattoes" on our bodies? Can we claim anything? Due to all my losing ways at the end of the '05 campaign, I could only afford to get "32" engraved in my left-ass-cheek. The part reading "red" will have to wait for the time being.


Simmo!

Call me a cynic, but if I were a competitor of GP and had a massive todger*, wouldn't it be worth tattooing** their name on it and streaking at the olympics just to get them in more trouble***?

cont...

Anyway....with all due respect to KGC, ECOGRA etc etc, we shouldn't deflect attention from the fact that GP is a business that has gone out its way to disrupt a sporting event that represents the dreams and years of hard work for lots of people. Its just totally disrespectful IMO.

About Golden Palace's oh-so-wonderful ways of grabbing our attention, I've been guilty of this myself. I always thought that each time I flip someone the bird, I'm actually giving G.P. the negative advertisement they are desperately in search of.


Side note: What's up with Golden Palace being able to pull that off at two successive Olympics? It makes the security at those games look shameful. Maybe the Canadian Legislation should pass a law whereby Canadian athletes should be allowed to down to the Quebec: Golden Palace offices, and torch the place to the ground (that is, AFTER the payout ALL of their winners of course).

It'll be interesting to see what happens at the next Winter Olympics, which will be in Vancouver. That won't go over too well in Canada (my guess).



Steed

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[Pinababy69]

Maybe because all it would have read would have been "32pointed"????

You know....I work at the Toronto Wildlife Centre in Downsview Park here in Toronto. Right directly behind our building (they're old army buildings/barracks/refurbished)...is a building with a huge sign on top that says GoldenPalace.com. I'm not sure what's housed in there, but I just may just trot in there tomorrow morning when I go to work, and tell them I want to speak to the dipshit who handles their marketing.

 

[jetset]

Now the wait to see what Kahnawake will do about this flagrant and as usual tasteless example of Golden Palace guerilla advertising. As a second Olympic offence I would hope that Kahnawake really lower the hammer on these clowns.

 

[The Dude]

Now the wait to see what Kahnawake will do about this flagrant and as usual tasteless example of Golden Palace guerilla advertising. As a second Olympic offence I would hope that Kahnawake really lower the hammer on these clowns.

I've already emailed my contacts at KGC giving them a heads up on another GP "slippage". I'll let you know how they respond.

 

[johnsteed]

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Pinababy69

You know....I work at the Toronto Wildlife Centre in Downsview Park here in Toronto. Right directly behind our building (they're old army buildings/barracks/refurbished)...is a building with a huge sign on top that says GoldenPalace.com. I'm not sure what's housed in there, but I just may just trot in there tomorrow morning when I go to work, and tell them I want to speak to the dipshit who handles their marketing.

Hmmm, my guess is that it's probably where they store all of that auction crap they buy. Some of that junk was once worth something, but knowing that it's presently owned by Golden Palace must make the stuff completely worthless. "Sold for $2 MILLION USD, in 5-years will be worth $10,000 on eBay..."


Steed

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[Pinababy69]

Well, I guess there's not much sense marching my butt in there ready to do battle then is there? LOL....thanks JohnSteed, but geez I was starting to look forward to it.

 

[Chezza]

It must be worth their time in acquisitions to ignore the Kahnawake...

Personally I don't see how or why you would want to. It's just Mad. Almost as mad as buying a really old GROTTY sandwich!

LOL

You have to admit though it is one casino that manages to get the most alternative exposure in our industry through these publicity games. Maybe they are taking it a bit too far now!

 

[johnsteed]

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Pinababy69

Well, I guess there's not much sense marching my butt in there ready to do battle then is there? LOL....thanks JohnSteed, but geez I was starting to look forward to it.

(lol) On no my dear, PLEASE go there and do what should have been ages ago . Do your best impersonation of Jack Torrance. As insane as that character was, he was still very much "sane" compared to the wide-range of "things" that Golden Palace had bought-up at those auctions. Kubrick WISHES he were alive to make that final masterpiece... and in-depth look into the horrors of "Golden Palace: The Insanity Commeth".


Steed

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[caruso]

I find it hard to accept that Kahnawake will issue another slap on the wrist for this...if found guilty of sanctioning this stunt, Golden Palace would be asked to find an alternative licensing authority.

I'll take a bet with you here and now that, six months down the line, Golden Palace will still be carrying the Kahnawake stamp. NO WAY will they lose that.

 

[caruso]

Now the wait to see what Kahnawake will do about this flagrant and as usual tasteless example of Golden Palace guerilla advertising. As a second Olympic offence I would hope that Kahnawake really lower the hammer on these clowns.

Of course they will; they'll require that they pay an even more substantial fine, to be donated to charity or some Mohawk "organisation".

The amount will be undisclosed.

The recipient charity / organisation will be unnamed.

Golden Palace will promise to never do it again.

Everything will carry on as normal.

They'll sabotage the 2008 Olympics.

 

[sdaddy]

They'll sabotage the 2008 Olympics.

They may skip the Beijing games though. It won't be because they've changed their ways, but rather the difficulty of finding someone willing to face a Chinese prison.

 

[caruso]

I note with interest that everyone's emails have been ignored by Kahnawake - including Mr. Bailey's:

I've asked the Kahnawake Gaming commission if they are planning to address this. But apparently they don't feel the need to answer my emails. What a shame.

Wazzup, Kahnawake? - can't think of a neat fix to get Golden Palace off the hook again?

As an organisation so committed to player protection, as evinced by your recent love-in with eCOGRA...

The industry’s most prominent licencing jurisdiction, the Kahnawáke Gaming Commission and the industry’s independent player assurance organisation eCOGRA have agreed to work together to ensure that player protection measures such as fair gaming and disputes resolution are consistently applied across companies operating under their rules.

...how is it that when called to task, you are so remarkably absent?

 

[Sodax77]

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[Zoozie]

I am ..... speechless. Completely.

 

[Slotster!]

That video is unforgivable, purely on the couplets/rhymes... Clutching at straws or what. Dreadful dreadful dreadful.

I've got to be honest though, they deserve some credit for blatantly targeting stupid people - of which there's billions in the world ready to lap it up and, I should imagine, pour money into their casino!

 

[ergopro]

Woooootttt!

 

[Webzcas]

It would be funny though if Billy Joel sued them for using his song. Although I expect they have bought the rights to that as well.

 

[The Dude]

It would be funny though if Billy Joel sued them for using his song. Although I expect they have bought the rights to that as well.

And no response yet from Kahnawake. They must be really busy over there...

 

[amandajm]

They missed a couple of things out on the video.

 

[The Dude]

Well a little over two weeks and four emails later, Kahnawake finally acknowledged my existance

They said they're handling this internally.

I guess it's time to go play my bass - tomorrow's guitar day.

 

[caruso]

They said they're handling this internally.

Obviously that's as unacceptable as it's unsurprising.

Excuse me? Sanctions for the first stunt and a warning to not do it again, so they do it again and...nothing?

If this is the sum total of their public response then Kahnawake will be officially the licensing joke they proved themselves during the Golden Palace saga six years ago.

Notwithstanding the fact that GP’s website does not specifically address “bonus abuse”, we find that the activities of the complainants were such that they breached the implied condition of good faith that exists between any two parties to an agreement.

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Remarkable isn't it? They're quite happy for one of their license holders to sabotage the premier international sporting event, year in, year out, and equally happy to sanction Golden Palace winnings-confiscations those six years ago - while being so remarkably apparently committed to "player protection":

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The (Kahnawake) Commission will continue to use its own methodologies in conducting due diligence investigations on all applicants to determine their suitability as Kahnawá:ke licensees.

So sabotage of the Olympics, two times running, and Golden Palace pass Kahnawake's "due diligence"?

What do you have to do to NOT pass Kahnawake's "due diligence"?

Excuse me if I'm currently falling off my chair in hysterics - it's like these people think we're all total imbeciles. Kahnawake could not have proven themselves LESS committed to player protection and LESS capable as a "license" provider, yet they think this pontificating with empty, meaningless words is going to mean something.

It's truly beyond belief.

 

[tennis_balls]

get over it, man

I still prefer Golden Palace's marketing campaign to some of the spurious slime produced by the likes of Nike, McDonalds, GM and Coors. Twins are cool, but the Coors twins are twice as trashy as any tattoo'd todger traversing the town of Torino.

And those SUVs parked atop mountains honking the Olympic anthem really added a lot to the show. Please don't make me watch that one for the 1001st time.

You folks are sounding a bit like Tom Delay's buddy, Bob Goodlatte with your implied "moral highground" on this matter.

"C'mon everybody we're going streaking through the quad!"

 

[GrandMaster]

Are you serious? Do you really approve of GP disrupting various events, possibly ruining people's sporting careers?

 

[caruso]

LOL, there's always got to be one.

Thanks for the bump anyway, newbie.

 

[Simmo!]

Are you serious? Do you really approve of GP disrupting various events, possibly ruining people's sporting careers?

Spot on. No-one particularly minds a streaker (well, most no-one) but if they must market "tabloid" fashion, then at least keep it in the right place at the right time.

 

[tennis_balls]

freak out....le freak....le streak

Spot on. No-one particularly minds a streaker (well, most no-one) but if they must market "tabloid" fashion, then at least keep it in the right place at the right time.

this was in the right place at the right time: before the start of the bronze medal curling match

 

[jetset]

I don't think you get it: this sort of activity is never right at the Olympics or international sporting events, and this time there were disruptions at the closing ceremony too.

Quite apart from that, this campaign (buying crap, renaming babies and streaking) is now way past its sell-by date (imo) and that would seem to indicate that the creative juices in the GP marketing team are drying up. Some real innovation is long overdue, perhaps going in a whole new direction.

Getting back on topic, I agree with the Casinomeister that in this case of the Winter Olympics there was a blatant "up yours" by GP to the licensing jurisdiction, and I believe that if Kahnawake is a serious body it should be more transparent in how it proposes to deal with this wilful renege on the agreement that there would be no more invasions of Olympic events.

 

[tennis_balls]

hold everything....this guy wasn't even a real streaker

i looked at the pic and he had tape all around his waist holding up a big rubber chicken to cover his boys. you have to drop that rubber chicken or it doesn't count! GP should withhold payment! that's not streaking! it is, however, a slap in the face of all giant chickens made of latex.

you could go to the Excalibur on any given Friday night and see much worse outfits than that (and that's just the staff uniforms)

 

[The Dude]

...You folks are sounding a bit like Tom Delay's buddy, Bob Goodlatte with your implied "moral highground" on this matter.

It has nothing to do with morals, but it has everything to do with ethical behaviour.

"Fool in the Pool"
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These people should not be allowed to run an online casino. Imagine a land based casino in Las Vegas thumbing its nose at the Nevada State Gaming Commission. Do you think this would be tolerated? I doubt it.

In this situation, you have a casino that clutches for straws trying to get attention regardless of the consequence. Ethics - not morality, is the main topic here. The attitude that this casino has towards its licensing jurisdiction is alarming, and this affects every casino that is licensed by the Kahnawakes.

The Kahnawake Gaming license has been diluted to about absolutely nothing. Now when a casino tells me, "Well, we're licensed in Kahnawake." my reaction is well - so what?

If I was a casino operator licensed in this jurisdiction, I'd be totally pissed off.

 

[amandajm]

If I had the clout, i'd be smacking backsides. It is a pity you don't have the clout either Meister.

The IGC logo is on the GP website.
The Khanawacky logo is on the website.
The Khanawhack are in bed with ecogra.
G4 are in bed with ecogra.

A tangled web of backscratching regardless what anyone thinks. I am supposed to respect this crowd for what they aim to achieve? GPalace are embarrassing all concerned along the line.

I'd happily rogue the lot of them, problem is G4 are involved with Gordon House. Gordon House are doing good work for problem gamblers. Ecogra are a decent dispute resolution service.

A sideswipe at everyone involved regardless.

 

[Webzcas]

The fact is Golden Palace by pulling these kind of stunts are actually arming those that advocate the US Gambling Prohibition Act currently being discussed.

Golden Palace are bad for the egaming industry full stop IMO. Those that play there, should seriously think twice and vote with their feet/keyboards/mouse button. Otherwise by playing at Golden Palace, it could be construed that you condone the practice of online casinos buying the rights to name babies amongst other dubious stunts they have pulled. So much for Golden Palace being an advocate of responsible gambling when they pay for babies to be named after their domain name.

 

[caruso]

Doing some cursory reading prior to firing off my own email, I came across this gem.

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The Commission is empowered to regulate and control gaming and gaming related activities conducted within and from the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake in accordance with the highest principles of honesty and integrity.

LMFAO.

I really love these people. They think they can say anything, do anything, and noone will bat an eyelid. They absolutely do regard everyone as total certified idiots. I suppose sitting in an independent Indian reservation does a lot to create this mentality.

What mightn't be a bad idea would be to contact the reputable operations that are "licensed" by Kahnawake - VPL, Jackpot factory etc - and lobby them to press them on this issue. They won't listen to anyone here, but they might pay attention to their customers.

 

[caruso]

For reference, here's the link to the original Kahnawake "reprimand":

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In the past two weeks, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission (KGC) has received numerous complaints concerning an incident at the Olympic Games in Athens involving a person who ‘streaked’ an event displaying the name of one of the KGC’s permit holders: Golden Palace.

The KGC did not approve or condone the incident in question and does not approve or condone this type of ‘marketing’ by its permit holders.

After investigating the Athens incident and meeting with representatives of Golden Palace, the KGC has directed that:

1. Golden Palace will not use, promote, encourage or fund this type of ‘marketing’ ever again, and

2. Given the seriousness of the incident and the negative effect it has had on the community’s reputation, Golden Palace will make a substantial donation to Kahnawake organizations to be identified by the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake.

The KGC is satisfied with Golden Palace’s cooperation throughout and considers the matter closed.

For further information, contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commission at 450-635-1076.

Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake
3 September, 2004

 

[soflat]

...by playing at Golden Palace, it could be construed that you condone the practice of online casinos buying the rights to name babies amongst other dubious stunts they have pulled.

I happily took GPs money and will do it again if they offer it. That doesn't mean I condone everything they do.

Anyways, I have no problem with streakers at the Olympics or any other sporting event. But I would prefer they have some hot babe do it next time. A guy with a chicken doesn't put across a positive image of GP.

This is a Kahnawake problem. They lose credibility when they state that they are going to regulate certain actions of a casino then do not follow thru.

 

[caruso]

If I was a casino operator licensed in this jurisdiction, I'd be totally pissed off.

How do you think eCOGRA feel about it?

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The Kahnaw:ke Gaming Commission was established and empowered in 1996 under the Kahnaw:ke Gaming Law. The Commissions Regulations concerning Interactive Gaming were promulgated in July 1999 and are generally accepted as a model for regulating the global online gaming industry.

Whoa, model for the online gambling industry? Tell Bobby Goodlatte, I bet that'd be music to his ears.

This was something on the agenda to discuss with AB when I met him the other day, but time wasn't permitting.

 

[The Dude]

The Kahnaw:ke Gaming Commission was established and empowered in 1996 under the Kahnaw:ke Gaming Law. The Commissions Regulations concerning Interactive Gaming were promulgated in July 1999 and are generally accepted as a model for regulating the global online gaming industry

I used to think the same thing -- but not anymore. It's really a shame since there are some fine casinos that are located there.

 

[caruso]

Really very good indeed Kahnawake entry in the latest Link Outdated / Removed:

I particularly liked the comment "...if you're acting as a regulator, at least APPEAR to be doing your job" - which calls the whole thing exactly for what it is as far as I'm concerned - as well as the the possible reasons you suggest as to why Golden Palace have such apparent pull with our favourite tomahawk-toting tribesmen.

Steady on there, you're starting to sound like me.

The section starts at 9' 45" into the show.

 

[Webzcas]

I agree with Caruso. It is a shame that Kahnawake have their head in the sand as it were concerning Golden Palace's latest stunt. I guess they make too much money so are beyond being pulled back into line. This would be okay, if Golden Palace's actions didn't affect the entire industry, which unfortunately they do.

 

[tennis_balls]

you can't spell "golden" without "g-o-d"

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