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That video is unforgivable, purely on the couplets/rhymes... Clutching at straws or what. Dreadful dreadful dreadful.

I've got to be honest though, they deserve some credit for blatantly targeting stupid people - of which there's billions in the world ready to lap it up and, I should imagine, pour money into their casino!
 

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Webzcas said:
:eek2:

It would be funny though if Billy Joel sued them for using his song. Although I expect they have bought the rights to that as well.
:lolup:

And no response yet from Kahnawake. They must be really busy over there...
 

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Well a little over two weeks and four emails later, Kahnawake finally acknowledged my existance :D

They said they're handling this internally.

I guess it's time to go play my bass - tomorrow's guitar day.
 

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They said they're handling this internally.

Obviously that's as unacceptable as it's unsurprising.

Excuse me? Sanctions for the first stunt and a warning to not do it again, so they do it again and...nothing?

If this is the sum total of their public response then Kahnawake will be officially the licensing joke they proved themselves during the Golden Palace saga six years ago.

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Remarkable isn't it? They're quite happy for one of their license holders to sabotage the premier international sporting event, year in, year out, and equally happy to sanction Golden Palace winnings-confiscations those six years ago - while being so remarkably apparently committed to "player protection":

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The (Kahnawake) Commission will continue to use its own methodologies in conducting due diligence investigations on all applicants to determine their suitability as Kahnawá:ke licensees.

So sabotage of the Olympics, two times running, and Golden Palace pass Kahnawake's "due diligence"?

What do you have to do to NOT pass Kahnawake's "due diligence"?

Excuse me if I'm currently falling off my chair in hysterics - it's like these people think we're all total imbeciles. Kahnawake could not have proven themselves LESS committed to player protection and LESS capable as a "license" provider, yet they think this pontificating with empty, meaningless words is going to mean something.

It's truly beyond belief.
 

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get over it, man

I still prefer Golden Palace's marketing campaign to some of the spurious slime produced by the likes of Nike, McDonalds, GM and Coors. Twins are cool, but the Coors twins are twice as trashy as any tattoo'd todger traversing the town of Torino.

And those SUVs parked atop mountains honking the Olympic anthem really added a lot to the show. Please don't make me watch that one for the 1001st time.

You folks are sounding a bit like Tom Delay's buddy, Bob Goodlatte with your implied "moral highground" on this matter.

"C'mon everybody we're going streaking through the quad!"
 
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Are you serious? Do you really approve of GP disrupting various events, possibly ruining people's sporting careers?
 

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Are you serious? Do you really approve of GP disrupting various events, possibly ruining people's sporting careers?

Spot on. No-one particularly minds a streaker (well, most no-one) but if they must market "tabloid" fashion, then at least keep it in the right place at the right time.
 

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freak out....le freak....le streak

Simmo! said:
Spot on. No-one particularly minds a streaker (well, most no-one) but if they must market "tabloid" fashion, then at least keep it in the right place at the right time.

this was in the right place at the right time: before the start of the bronze medal curling match
 

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I don't think you get it: this sort of activity is never right at the Olympics or international sporting events, and this time there were disruptions at the closing ceremony too.

Quite apart from that, this campaign (buying crap, renaming babies and streaking) is now way past its sell-by date (imo) and that would seem to indicate that the creative juices in the GP marketing team are drying up. Some real innovation is long overdue, perhaps going in a whole new direction.

Getting back on topic, I agree with the Casinomeister that in this case of the Winter Olympics there was a blatant "up yours" by GP to the licensing jurisdiction, and I believe that if Kahnawake is a serious body it should be more transparent in how it proposes to deal with this wilful renege on the agreement that there would be no more invasions of Olympic events.
 

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hold everything....this guy wasn't even a real streaker

i looked at the pic and he had tape all around his waist holding up a big rubber chicken to cover his boys. you have to drop that rubber chicken or it doesn't count! GP should withhold payment! that's not streaking! it is, however, a slap in the face of all giant chickens made of latex.

you could go to the Excalibur on any given Friday night and see much worse outfits than that (and that's just the staff uniforms)
 
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...You folks are sounding a bit like Tom Delay's buddy, Bob Goodlatte with your implied "moral highground" on this matter.
It has nothing to do with morals, but it has everything to do with ethical behaviour.

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These people should not be allowed to run an online casino. Imagine a land based casino in Las Vegas thumbing its nose at the Nevada State Gaming Commission. Do you think this would be tolerated? I doubt it.

In this situation, you have a casino that clutches for straws trying to get attention regardless of the consequence. Ethics - not morality, is the main topic here. The attitude that this casino has towards its licensing jurisdiction is alarming, and this affects every casino that is licensed by the Kahnawakes.

The Kahnawake Gaming license has been diluted to about absolutely nothing. Now when a casino tells me, "Well, we're licensed in Kahnawake." my reaction is well - so what?

If I was a casino operator licensed in this jurisdiction, I'd be totally pissed off.
 

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If I had the clout, i'd be smacking backsides. It is a pity you don't have the clout either Meister.

The IGC logo is on the GP website.
The Khanawacky logo is on the website.
The Khanawhack are in bed with ecogra.
G4 are in bed with ecogra.

A tangled web of backscratching regardless what anyone thinks. I am supposed to respect this crowd for what they aim to achieve? GPalace are embarrassing all concerned along the line.

I'd happily rogue the lot of them, problem is G4 are involved with Gordon House. Gordon House are doing good work for problem gamblers. Ecogra are a decent dispute resolution service.

A sideswipe at everyone involved regardless.
 

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The fact is Golden Palace by pulling these kind of stunts are actually arming those that advocate the US Gambling Prohibition Act currently being discussed.

Golden Palace are bad for the egaming industry full stop IMO. Those that play there, should seriously think twice and vote with their feet/keyboards/mouse button. Otherwise by playing at Golden Palace, it could be construed that you condone the practice of online casinos buying the rights to name babies amongst other dubious stunts they have pulled. So much for Golden Palace being an advocate of responsible gambling when they pay for babies to be named after their domain name.
 

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Doing some cursory reading prior to firing off my own email, I came across this gem.

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The Commission is empowered to regulate and control gaming and gaming related activities conducted within and from the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake in accordance with the highest principles of honesty and integrity.

LMFAO.

I really love these people. They think they can say anything, do anything, and noone will bat an eyelid. They absolutely do regard everyone as total certified idiots. I suppose sitting in an independent Indian reservation does a lot to create this mentality.

What mightn't be a bad idea would be to contact the reputable operations that are "licensed" by Kahnawake - VPL, Jackpot factory etc - and lobby them to press them on this issue. They won't listen to anyone here, but they might pay attention to their customers.
 

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For reference, here's the link to the original Kahnawake "reprimand":

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In the past two weeks, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission (KGC) has received numerous complaints concerning an incident at the Olympic Games in Athens involving a person who ‘streaked’ an event displaying the name of one of the KGC’s permit holders: Golden Palace.

The KGC did not approve or condone the incident in question and does not approve or condone this type of ‘marketing’ by its permit holders.

After investigating the Athens incident and meeting with representatives of Golden Palace, the KGC has directed that:

1. Golden Palace will not use, promote, encourage or fund this type of ‘marketing’ ever again, and

2. Given the seriousness of the incident and the negative effect it has had on the community’s reputation, Golden Palace will make a substantial donation to Kahnawake organizations to be identified by the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake.

The KGC is satisfied with Golden Palace’s cooperation throughout and considers the matter closed.

For further information, contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commission at 450-635-1076.

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Webzcas said:
...by playing at Golden Palace, it could be construed that you condone the practice of online casinos buying the rights to name babies amongst other dubious stunts they have pulled.

I happily took GPs money and will do it again if they offer it. That doesn't mean I condone everything they do.

Anyways, I have no problem with streakers at the Olympics or any other sporting event. But I would prefer they have some hot babe do it next time. A guy with a chicken doesn't put across a positive image of GP.

This is a Kahnawake problem. They lose credibility when they state that they are going to regulate certain actions of a casino then do not follow thru.
 

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Casinomeister said:
If I was a casino operator licensed in this jurisdiction, I'd be totally pissed off.

How do you think eCOGRA feel about it?

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The Kahnaw:ke Gaming Commission was established and empowered in 1996 under the Kahnaw:ke Gaming Law. The Commissions Regulations concerning Interactive Gaming were promulgated in July 1999 and are generally accepted as a model for regulating the global online gaming industry.

Whoa, model for the online gambling industry? Tell Bobby Goodlatte, I bet that'd be music to his ears. :)

This was something on the agenda to discuss with AB when I met him the other day, but time wasn't permitting.
 

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The Kahnaw:ke Gaming Commission was established and empowered in 1996 under the Kahnaw:ke Gaming Law. The Commissions Regulations concerning Interactive Gaming were promulgated in July 1999 and are generally accepted as a model for regulating the global online gaming industry
I used to think the same thing -- but not anymore. It's really a shame since there are some fine casinos that are located there.
 

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Really very good indeed Kahnawake entry in the latest Link Outdated / Removed:

I particularly liked the comment "...if you're acting as a regulator, at least APPEAR to be doing your job" - which calls the whole thing exactly for what it is as far as I'm concerned - as well as the the possible reasons you suggest as to why Golden Palace have such apparent pull with our favourite tomahawk-toting tribesmen.

Steady on there, you're starting to sound like me. :)

The section starts at 9' 45" into the show.
 

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I agree with Caruso. It is a shame that Kahnawake have their head in the sand as it were concerning Golden Palace's latest stunt. I guess they make too much money so are beyond being pulled back into line. This would be okay, if Golden Palace's actions didn't affect the entire industry, which unfortunately they do.
 

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