MG old/new games

[Rusty]

Made my Monthly donation to MG to check out their new slots and exactly the same as usual. Boring beyond belief and run like a turd in treacle (with a multicore 3.6ghz CPU, 8mb RAM and state of the art graphics card)
Managed 600 spins without triggering the main bonus on either the Robot game or Hellboy. Hellboy was brutal beyond belief with endless dead spins.

Still I won't be back to play these again just to hit the bonus rounds as they are the usual generic waste of space (literally on my HD)
The secondary bonus in the robot game takes an eternity to begin and end with you simply making a selection and then getting a quick animation (or two) before your prize being awarded which is totally predictable after you hacve hit the round a couple of times - yawn.

Seriously I have played slots non stop for almost 48 hours before now and not been as bored as I was after 10 minutes of playing these games. Being slaughtered is just added insult to injury but even if I had won I would never play these slots again.

MG have fallen a long, long way in their standards in all areas over the past few Years (especially since the demise of the US market)
For all my frustrations with RTG as a platform and how the software operates (MG is now no different by the way - if it ever was) it now beats MG hands down. Sure don't get the bells and whistles that MG provide but that is more than made up for as it does not make your HD a slave to the casino for one and the games generally run much more smoothly compared to the jerkovision that MG now offers. Also the returns are at least comparable these days and new games are generally more fun.

By the way ever wondered why MG software runs so poorly now when it used to run smoothly even on much less powerful PC's? An algorithm too far?
My last win at an MG was rewarded by going over a Thousand spins the next session without a feature. One of those little recurring coincidences.

 

[chuchu59]

Spot on Rusty.

RTG adds some creativity to its slots whereas as MG is soooo boring. Yes, the software also runs poorly so I have literally stopped playing their tourneys whereas I was playing them everyday about a year ago.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

The new update DOES run slowly yes, UNTIL you minimise the casino. IF you minimise the casino the games return to their normal flawless speed. Dont ask me why but they do ive checked it on 3 pcs all of differing specs.

(you have to minimise every time you load a different slot up btw)

 

[chuchu59]

Minimising the casino does improve the speed but it's still slower than normal. At least on my pc. Furthermore, the graphics are so blurred you want to samash the damn thing.

 

[vinylweatherman]

The new update DOES run slowly yes, UNTIL you minimise the casino. IF you minimise the casino the games return to their normal flawless speed. Dont ask me why but they do ive checked it on 3 pcs all of differing specs.

(you have to minimise every time you load a different slot up btw)

Maybe so, but this is a sign of INCOMPETENT PROGRAMMING, and FAILURE to test properly before release to users.

If we did this at work, we would get a bollocking from the boss (and this happened to me once)* and further, would be expected to fix it, or roll back to the previous version, IMMEDIATELY, and I mean IMMEDIATELY, not "tomorrow", or "next week". It meant either leaving full instructions for doing this with operations, or coming in ourselves to do it, even at midnight on Sunday if necessary.

MGS seems to have the attitude "we'll fix it, when we can be arsed to do it"

B****y French - just have to be different, don't they

 

[AussieDave]

run like a turd in treacle (with a multicore 3.6ghz CPU, 8mb RAM and state of the art graphics card)

With a DuoCore 3.6ghz CPU and matched to 8meg ram, that's got more than enough processing speed. With your graphics card this system should eat it up.

With the above specs I'm of the opinion there is a issue with the system and not the MGS updated software.

Some questions if you don't mind.

State of the art GPU (graphics card)...What card are you running?

8meg of ram..Is this DDR2, DDR3?

When did you last do a HDD defrag?

When did you last updated your drivers for your GPU and other hardware?

Do you defrag and compact your registry? If so when?

What OS are you using - XP, Vista, Win 7?
Are you using the latest Update Patches?

Do you have all the eye candy switched on for your OS?
(this can affect the performance but generally on older PCs).

How many quick start programs do you have running? And how many processes are running in the background?

(If you using XP - do a Ctrl+Alt+Del that brings up the Windows Task Manager. Click the Processes Tab.)

At the bottom you'll see....

Processes: (what's the number?)
CPU Usage: (what's the % number?)
Commit Charge: ???M/????M - what's these numbers?)

What Anti Virus program are you using?
Do you use a firewall, if so which one?
Do you use an anti spyware/malware program (if so which one)?

If you use any of these when was the last time you ran a complete scan on your PC?

If you can supply this info it gives me an idea as to what maybe causing your system slow down....


Cheers



Dave

 

[AFlansburg]

AudiManinBoro

The new update DOES run slowly yes, UNTIL you minimise the casino. IF you minimise the casino the games return to their normal flawless speed. Dont ask me why but they do ive checked it on 3 pcs all of differing specs.

(you have to minimise every time you load a different slot up btw)

Hi,
You don't need to minimize at all, just move your mouse cursor over the "X" exit button at the top right. My question is why can't I maximize the casino, When I click the maximize button, it maximizes for 1/2 a second, then snaps back to the original size.

AFlansburg

 

[AussieDave]

My question is why can't I maximize the casino, When I click the maximize button, it maximizes for 1/2 a second, then snaps back to the original size.

I had the same issue. But this week I got my new PC which also included a 23" LG Full HD wide screen monitor.

Before I had a 19" non wide screen LCD. It was doing the same thing your experiencing now.

Apart from the tabs this software brings (among other things) it also includes compatibility for wide screen monitors.

That seems to have produced an issue for non wide screen users

Did MGS beta test this software? I doubt it. Or if they did they tested it on high end systems that all used wide screen monitors.

To fix the screen size issue...I changed my screen size to 800x600 and I also increased the sharpness on my video card options.

Started the casino software using this screen res. It fixed the issue. But it's a pain in the butt doing this every time you want to play.


Cheers



Dave

 

[KasinoKing]

Managed 600 spins without triggering the main bonus on either the Robot game or Hellboy. Hellboy was brutal beyond belief with endless dead spins.

For once Rusty my friend, I totally agree with you!
I played both these new "slots" this week - and to call the CRAP would be an insult to crap!
They are diabolical beyond description.

KK

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Dont know what your both on about lol HellBoy is utterly awesome. Ive had 3 seriously big wins off this slot so far, all within the random pop up free spins. Best slot Mg has produced in years!

 

[AussieDave]

For once Rusty my friend, I totally agree with you!
I played both these new "slots" this week - and to call the CRAP would be an insult to crap!
They are diabolical beyond description.

Make that two of us

Most of my game play on Hellboy was @ $10 a spin. I upped that to $20 (around 500 spins).

The best I managed was $630 in the bonus round. The rest of the wins were pathetic when compared to the bet size risk.

And Robot Butler that was just as bad; actually it was worse.

Maybe MGS thought if they turned out two crap games we (the players) wouldn't notice the crapola update

I'm starting to wonder if MGS are taking Rival's lead...They (Rob the Rival rep here) claimed the iSlots were never meant to have great pay-outs. They were focused on their entertainment value


Cheers



Dave

 

[AudiManinBoro]

I fail to see how you can justify calling a slot `crap` just because it didnt pay you anything. Had you won a lot on those `10 and 20 $ spins` would you be saying the same thing? Something tells me not. You were just unlucky unfortunatly. The hellboy slot is very entertaining when the random free spins come out every other go, i know ive seen it happen, a fair few times now and ive made a sizeable profit off hellboy since it came out Just because a slot doesnt pay, does not make it crap. My two cents anyway

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

I hate most of their latest games but hellboy so far was pretty decent for me - just had some problems with downloading it until i installed a brand new MG casino.

 

[AussieDave]

The hellboy slot is very entertaining when the random free spins come out every other go, i know ive seen it happen, a fair few times now and ive made a sizeable profit off hellboy since it came out Just because a slot doesnt pay, does not make it crap. My two cents anyway

I agree just because I didn't win does not mean HellBoy is crap. It's just crap from my perspective.

FYI I came second (DavidM) in the 32Red HellBoy Tourny with a score of 450 or something. Meaning I played through 4,500 on Hellboy. So I'm not basing my opinion on just a few spins.

MGS and all its casinos began touting that HellBoy was the next best thing to sliced bread. However it's nothing new.

Tomb Raider secret of the sword has the random free spins too.

And as far a the bonus round, what's so amazing about it

Pick the wrong sewer door and it's game over. What's so different between that and any other MGS slot with a pickem bonus round & or bonus round levels? Nothing.

The only thing that makes Hellboy different are flash cut scenes of HellBoy in the sewers going from level to level, there is nothing amazingly cutting edge about this slot machine.


Cheers



Dave

 

[vinylweatherman]

I agree just because I didn't win does not mean HellBoy is crap. It's just crap from my perspective.

FYI I came second (DavidM) in the 32Red HellBoy Tourny with a score of 450 or something. Meaning I played through 4,500 on Hellboy. So I'm not basing my opinion on just a few spins.

MGS and all its casinos began touting that HellBoy was the next best thing to sliced bread. However it's nothing new.

Tomb Raider secret of the sword has the random free spins too.

And as far a the bonus round, what's so amazing about it

Pick the wrong sewer door and it's game over. What's so different between that and any other MGS slot with a pickem bonus round & or bonus round levels? Nothing.

The only thing that makes Hellboy different are flash cut scenes of HellBoy in the sewers going from level to level, there is nothing amazingly cutting edge about this slot machine.


Cheers



Dave

For this, we had to endure the lobby upgrade, the blown ADSL caps, jerkovision, and the loss of more than SIX GAMES from a single category.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Im not sure i havent really played the tombraider slot all that much but i dont believe this slot has a guaranteed 3 wild pop ups occuring during the random free spins which in my opinion makes hell boy `interesting`.

 

[De Beuker]

Just received an email from Spin Palace, I mailed them last week about the awful gameplay since the last upgrade.
It is now possible to downgrade on request to the previous version of the software, which is great.
Downside is, you won't be able to play 5 games at once, and you'll also have to live without Hellboy.

Personally I can live without both Hellboy and the 5 games at once feature, so I'm gonna DOWN, eh UPgrade to the previous version!
I really hope more MG casinos follow soon!

 

[Pinababy69]

Guess we should ask Dave what he thinks of Hellboy, lol.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/bloody-hell.35906/

That is great news that MG or at least Spin Palace for now will allow customers to go back to the old software. I personally have no problems with it, and will be keeping it. Not that I would EVER play five games at once...that part I don't get at all.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Bear in mind Pina, that if MG decide things are fine as they are, these casinos running the OLD software will receive NO more new games and the slots you have now are the slots youll have forever.Personally I think the casinos that havent upgraded as of yet will eventually be forced to. I cant see ANY new MG slot being supported on the platform for these casinos if they DONT upgrade and lets face it were all gonna want to play new releases.

 

[Webzcas]

Guess we should ask Dave what he thinks of Hellboy, lol.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/bloody-hell.35906/

I really like it LOL

But then it did take me for about a grand yesterday. So it was certainly payback time today

 

[vinylweatherman]

Bear in mind Pina, that if MG decide things are fine as they are, these casinos running the OLD software will receive NO more new games and the slots you have now are the slots youll have forever.Personally I think the casinos that havent upgraded as of yet will eventually be forced to. I cant see ANY new MG slot being supported on the platform for these casinos if they DONT upgrade and lets face it were all gonna want to play new releases.

I would EXPECT that MGS will, in the mean time, undertake further testing and tuning of the upgrade such that it works for EVERYBODY, even those with cheaper systems. I am sure even those players choosing to downgrade will sometimes try out the "upgrade" just to see if the bugs have been fixed.

It is not so much a problem with the NEW games, it is more that the new lobby does NOT support the OLD games very well, and this produces the "turd in treacle" and "jerkovision" effects.

Hellboy plays fine for me, but when I try the old games, the problems begin. Worst performance of all is with the new AWP games, the older ones having been REMOVED by MGS without notice or explanation.

In fact, the NET result of the upgrade is a REDUCTION in the total number of games available, a first for MGS

 

[AudiManinBoro]

That is also possible Vinyl, but as we all know MG has the habit of burying its head in the sand over issues it doesnt wish to confront and if they do decide to implement a fix, how soon is this likley to be? Knowing Mg i oudlnt hold any particular hope of it being speedy

 

[Rusty]

With a DuoCore 3.6ghz CPU and matched to 8meg ram, that's got more than enough processing speed. With your graphics card this system should eat it up.

With the above specs I'm of the opinion there is a issue with the system and not the MGS updated software.

Some questions if you don't mind.

State of the art GPU (graphics card)...What card are you running?

8meg of ram..Is this DDR2, DDR3?

When did you last do a HDD defrag?

When did you last updated your drivers for your GPU and other hardware?

Do you defrag and compact your registry? If so when?

What OS are you using - XP, Vista, Win 7?
Are you using the latest Update Patches?

Do you have all the eye candy switched on for your OS?
(this can affect the performance but generally on older PCs).

How many quick start programs do you have running? And how many processes are running in the background?

(If you using XP - do a Ctrl+Alt+Del that brings up the Windows Task Manager. Click the Processes Tab.)

At the bottom you'll see....

Processes: (what's the number?)
CPU Usage: (what's the % number?)
Commit Charge: ???M/????M - what's these numbers?)

What Anti Virus program are you using?
Do you use a firewall, if so which one?
Do you use an anti spyware/malware program (if so which one)?

If you use any of these when was the last time you ran a complete scan on your PC?

If you can supply this info it gives me an idea as to what maybe causing your system slow down....


Cheers



Dave

I do my own builds and currently have 3 PC's and the games run poorly on all of them.
To put it into context I can run resource intensive games at 1440 900 on high settings on any of these machines and get 60 FPS without worry.
They all run XP ddr2 and have the latest drivers etc.
They all have regular registry clean ups and occasional defrags which BTW are much over-rated and do not tangibly improve performance though they are still wise every now and again,- especially before a big install.

This is not a question of limited resources. All other software runs perfectly well and so it should. We are talking about 2D here! Those games should run at many hundreds FPS but that is not the problem.
The problem is the communication between the MG server - Casino and my PC. My broadband is 8meg
CPU usage is below 50% during spins on any slot but will occasionally spike, dramatically, hmmm. As per my original question - an algorithm too far?

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Lets be blunt here, MOST pc`s of adequate spec are capable of running what is to be honest very poor graphics. MG slots are NOT hugely intensive by ANY means. My fathers pc which runs the latest Total war game PERFECTLY struggles with some of the mg slots and there is simply NO comparison and his is far from a latest gen machin. MG slots are 2D and the graphics compared with todays gaming well to be blunt a pentium 2 with a average graphic card should be able to run them fine. I agree with KasinoKing here, this is nothing other than bad coding!

 

[Jasminebed]

I've found the whole play experience to be less than ideal. Thanks for the tip about hovering the mouse over the exit button AFlansburg, it does help quite a bit.

I was recently sent a freechip for Alljackpots casino. They wrote to ask why I had not yet deposited, and the MGS upgrade was my answer.

I'm wondering what their response to me will be.

I've played at Spin City before, perhaps it is time to revisit them. I was much happier with their payout times that with Casino Rewards (which I have no real complaints about other than the long reversable period, and less than stellar support).

3Dice, Bet365, PartyCasino and Inetbet have been the recipients of the majority of my deposits since the "upgrade" at MG.

 

[AussieDave]

I
CPU usage is below 50% during spins on any slot but will occasionally spike, dramatically

My CPU usage sits on 5-7% and occasionally spikes 12%. I did get new PC this week

I was playing last night. Took a trip down memory lane and played Spring Break, Thunderstruck and Ladies Nite.

I thought the reels were going to take off. Fasssst is not the word for it!

There are my new PC specs:

CPU i7 870 - 2.93GHZ
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P55A-UDP4
Corsair - 4gig DDR3 1600MHZ
Corsair 1000W power supply
Sapphaire Radeon HD 5970 OC (fastest GPU on the planet)
WD 1TB 32Meg cache 7200rpm sata HDD
Antec 902 gaming case
LG 23" 2MS Full HD LCD



Cheers



Dave

 

[AussieDave]

CPU usage is below 50% during spins on any slot but will occasionally spike, dramatically, hmmm.

My CPU usage sits on 5-7% and occasionally spikes 12%. Though I did get a new PC this week.

I was playing last night. Took a trip down memory lane and played Spring Break, Thunderstruck and Ladies Nite.

I thought the reels were going to take off. Fasssst is not the word for it!

I can run resource intensive games at 1440 900 on high settings on any of these machines and get 60 FPS without worry.

I also play system intense games. But now I can play everything with settings maxed out on 1920x1080. FPS are insane

New PC specs:

CPU i7 870 - 2.93GHZ
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P55A-UDP4
Corsair - 4gig DDR3 1600MHZ
Corsair 1000W power supply
Sapphaire Radeon HD 5970 OC (fastest GPU on the planet)
WD 1TB 32Meg cache 7200rpm sata HDD
Antec 902 gaming case
LG 23" 2MS Full HD LCD
OS - XP



Cheers



Dave

 

[De Beuker]

My CPU usage sits on 5-7% and occasionally spikes 12%. I did get new PC this week

I was playing last night. Took a trip down memory lane and played Spring Break, Thunderstruck and Ladies Nite.

I thought the reels were going to take off. Fasssst is not the word for it!

There are my new PC specs:

CPU i7 870 - 2.93GHZ
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P55A-UDP4
Corsair - 4gig DDR3 1600MHZ
Corsair 1000W power supply
Sapphaire Radeon HD 5970 OC (fastest GPU on the planet)
WD 1TB 32Meg cache 7200rpm sata HDD
Antec 902 gaming case
LG 23" 2MS Full HD LCD



Cheers



Dave

Nice machine Dave, wow!:notworthy
Congrats!!

Problem is, most ppl don't have the cash to buy such a monster.
Not me, thats 4 sure.

About 3 months ago, Microgaming ran just fine on my not-yet-upgraded PC, that was, don't laugh, a single core Celeron 2.4Ghz. with 512MB RAM (DDR1)and a FX5200 videocard.
I could play sessions of 8 hours or more without ever having to restart the software and not a single hickup, the games played fast as hell, smooth, no problems at all.
And thats how it should be, as there's no 3-D engine that has to be powered, its all 2-D, nothing special.
Now I have a dualcore 1.8Ghz., overclocked it to 2.4Ghz., 1GB of DDR2, Asus P5B motherboard and a 6600GT videocard and its still crap.

I mean, Rival runs superfast and smooth, same for RTG, and even, for God sake TOPGAME runs much, much better than MG!!

I've ran several benchmarkprograms and compared the scores to see if there was any problem with my machine, but the scores are always higher than they should be, my HD's are defragged, there's nothing running in the background that I do not need, I've finetuned XP to the max., disabled useless services, everything.
Still crap. The very same games that ran oh so smooth on my old Celeron 2.4Ghz., remember?
So I'm pretty damn sure the problem is NOT on my side.

 

[AussieDave]

Nice machine Dave, wow!

thanks

Problem is, most ppl don't have the cash to buy such a monster.

Well actually 32Red Paid for it, thanks Pat & Ed

I've ran several benchmarkprograms and compared the scores to see if there was any problem with my machine, but the scores are always higher than they should be, my HD's are defragged, there's nothing running in the background that I do not need, I've finetuned XP to the max., disabled useless services, everything.
Still crap. The very same games that ran oh so smooth on my old Celeron 2.4Ghz., remember?
So I'm pretty damn sure the problem is NOT on my side.

It seems some people are experiencing the new MGS updated games worse than others.

But do I agree with everyone that one shouldn't need a monster system to run the casino games. And as VWM (I think said) the slowness of the slots and the MGS software is probably due to sloppy programming.

Seems (MGS) were in a rush to release Hellboy. Maybe they figured the punters can do their beta testing on the upgraded software



Cheers



Dave

 

[AussieDave]

The problem is the communication between the MG server - Casino and my PC. My broadband is 8meg

Hi Rusty,

Your in the UK right?

I'm in Australia and I can assure you I have far more hops to any casino that I think you would. Apart from the occasional packet loss (I encounter from all MGS casinos), I don't have any hassles.

So it's a possible bottleneck causing your packet losses.

Have you performed a trace?

I'm pretty sure if you sent these details to 32red (don't know about any other MGS casino), and there was an issue, they would try to fix it, if it was within their control to do so.

You may find it's something your ISP can fix or at least ping the server/router responsible for the bottleneck.


Cheers



Dave

 

[alabama5150]

Even more kinds of probs....

Hi there,
I was wondering if any one else has had any problems while trying to play the free spins or even loading any games at all? I had some free spins twice now at Go-Wild that were on the game Gift Wrap, which wont load properly in the new software, and I wanted to check the slot The Great Galaxy Grab for a current promo they have now, and had same problem. When I was awarded some last week, the casino had to offer me a substitute game, on Break the Bank Again, and then on Avalon, but did not indicate any info as to why I couldn't use the games.

However there is a little bit more that happens when I have tried to load these games, and this problem happened in exactly the same way in Royal Joker software too, whom did not have a current promo. I tested it specifically.

At first the game hangs and never fills in the load bar and never eventually goes, the only allowable thing when it does this hang, is to click the cancel and stop trying, I tried several times with no change and then at some random point one try results in a whole different problem.

Whether I am in another part of lobby or on another page, all of a sudden the payouts screen for the game I tried to enter, comes up, and then all of a sudden the mouse will not work at all. The game screen blocks the whole screen , there are no clickable actions nor are there any visible option button, and the screen resize or minimise do not work even trying using tabs. Literally the only thing I can do is to cntrl-alt-delete and open task manager. and quit the program.

Another weird thing is, when I get the task manager open , the casino does not appear in the current applications running screen, I have to manually find the process to quit it. It shows there as normal the entire time until this payout screen thing happens.

I told Cherry in chat but I don't think my description was fully understood. I feel this is a Microgaming fix issue. I also think that they should have a support email, because the types of issues might prove to be helpful for the guys trying to do the fix. Well in my opinion anyway..

Has anyone else had this problem when trying to check for free spins. I had a similar issue with Villento Group, and old software when they offer the free spins every week, each time I went to see if by some miracle they included me, the game was highlighted as needed to be installed before it could be played, and the software never began the download. Once the promo was done the game was useable.

However in this case, the casino awarded them to me and sent me there to use them, so its obvious that it isn't that I did not make a mistake about my eligibility . I actually started to wonder if this was a "US" thing about certain promo's, but that doesn't apply either or the game would have been fine in the other casino as well. This is in addition to other probs like other have with screen hogging really show that the software certainly doesn't appear to have been checked very well, becuse the screen hog thing is simply too stupid to have released it. It also seems to have memory leaks all over the place, because it seems slow to me and very random as far as how quickly pages load, or how soon the tournaments finally appear. I have always figured its the wireless issues of my network, but the kinds of problems I am having are not wireless problems.



Some people have gigantic monitors, can you imagine a 40 inch casino lobby! LOL