Mastercard/Visa -- huge seizure

[topgame]

Hi everyone,

I have just had confirmed to me by TG management that both VISA and MC held an action against a major processing company used by many different operators/platforms.

As a result of this action there maybe some slight delays with player withdrawals but we wanted to assure everyone that all withdrawals will be processed asap.

In the meantime if any player has a question about their withdrawal I would ask you to please contact customer support of that casino.

Kind Regards


David

 

[tat00]

i only use quicktender and netspend - the only way to deposit without any worries

 

[suzecat]

Does this have anything to do with the coding being used for these transactions? I have noticed that until recently they were being coded as merchandise or "games other than gambling" when they were actually for gambling. Me thinks the hammer came down on companies who were mis-coding transactions to get them to go through.

 

[pryznbrk]

I used to have a company that processed over $100,000 a month in online charges and I can tell you that VISA and MasterCard are the most corrupt organizations I have ever dealt with. They make the mob look like altra boys.

 

[maxd]

Me thinks the hammer came down on companies who were mis-coding transactions to get them to go through.

I'd be surprised if this were actually the case since the effected operations are pretty widespread. I suppose if it were the processor doing it then maybe.

I'll see if I can't get some more first hand info on this today.

 

[felicie]

It's late summer or fall of 06 all over again isn't it? or 07. (ty vinylweatherman that post rang some big familiar bells in this foggy brain Just before neteller's departure (or after still foggy) from US market. Remember all the processors and wallets available to all of us? many many and then one after another, their doors to U.S. started closing and I personally, being really new to it all, found myself with a couple of hefty surprises that made no sense until now and even remember one phone conversation with one of the processor's who thanked me for the effort but said they could not accept the money and advised me they would Not put me on a negative list because of it. I had a couple of months where auto deposit hit the bank and then I watched it bounce bounce bounce down to nothing like it was totally out of control and yet statement didn't show what was doing it in the normal bank nsf procedure. I closed that account just to stop the madness and now I get what triggered it and it was Visa not mc. And for awhile my bank was the only one getting any money one bounce fee after another. What a great money-maker or instant 'bailout' for the bank of visa. The players, processors and casinos were in a state of confusion wondering who did what to whom and the money had never even left the bank. This probably sounds nuts to some of you cause I remember the looks I got from a couple of close friends and family when I told them my account had some kind of a virus that was gobbling up the money and I couldn't stop it.

 

[cheetahwind]

So far I think I can confirm one of the processors effected, because I can only remember one being able to take my mastercard.
Which was GameAccessClub.com. So therefore I'm guessing they were the ones who were hit and whomever else they were masked under.
I hate to say the masked page was a bit dull anyways. Even if a guy supposedly wanted to buy one of the cards advertised on there you couldn't because they had it all faked out to supposedly decline.
So honestly did it surprise me that they got caught? Not really.

 

[slotomatic]

Quicktender is also disallowing MC for funding for now. They have given no reason other than an issue with the payment processor. At least that's what I see when I log in to QT. Been days now, and the MC i had listed there is blocked out. Since about Feb 1.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

[post=331133]They know everything imo[/post]

I was more specific in some PM's starting in the fall. (Will check them out and possibly post some specifics).

UIGEA is not the cause but may wake up the sleeping dogs. VISA and MC have their own TandC's for both merchants and cardholders. Oh my, including terms related to gambling at least for US cardholders. We have all been trained to read those TandC's, yes!! HYPOCRISY and GREED and ADDICTION and IGNORANCE and

 

[suzecat]

So far I think I can confirm one of the processors effected, because I can only remember one being able to take my mastercard.
Which was GameAccessClub.com. So therefore I'm guessing they were the ones who were hit and whomever else they were masked under.
I hate to say the masked page was a bit dull anyways. Even if a guy supposedly wanted to buy one of the cards advertised on there you couldn't because they had it all faked out to supposedly decline.
So honestly did it surprise me that they got caught? Not really.

RIP GameAccessClub.com

 

[Pinababy69]

An online article from EGaming Review:

Mastercard crackdown leaves US players unable to pay

04/02/2010
Jon Parker


US-FACING operators have been hit by an overnight crackdown on online gambling payments by credit card giant Mastercard.

The US company is believed to have toughened its stance on the widespread practice of operators coding egaming transaction as other kinds of online commerce, which will all its US customers from using their cards to gamble online.

Rival US card giant Visa is rumoured to have taken a similar measure, although this could not be confirmed at the time of writing.

The action is a sign that banks and payment companies are preparing for implementation of Americas Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA), which bans the facilitation of online gambling by payment companies.

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EDITED TO ADD: You were right me_and_ed...I went into Money Mart yesterday to ask about the MC thing...and she immediately fixed me up, and said I'd have the Visa in the mail within a week. So all is good...thanks for letting me know.

 

[Richard]

LONDON BRIDGE IS FALLIN' DOWN...The show will soon be over folks. Visa will follow suit soon. This casino operators office will be raided. This sting is bigger than you could imagine. Don't be surprise if someone knocks on your door.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Ignore the warning signs all you want to. But its OVER FOLKS! Watch...2010 is IT!!!!

 

[jelsmith]

LONDON BRIDGE IS FALLIN' DOWN...The show will soon be over folks. Visa will follow suit soon. This casino operators office will be raided. This sting is bigger than you could imagine. Don't be surprise if someone knocks on your door.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Ignore the warning signs all you want to. But its OVER FOLKS! Watch...2010 is IT!!!!

......I dont think they will be knocking on anyones door....as technically OG isnt illegal.....

 

[NASHVEGAS]

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"Visa will follow suit" is not stupid. Ask a former member and current member of your POC club to share my Sept. and Nov. 2009 PM replies. Permission granted.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

......I dont think they will be knocking on anyones door....as technically OG isnt illegal.....

Is any type of gambling legal in the State of Tennessee. I am all ears

 

[maxd]

Ok, I've received some detailed information from inside the industry, people that were directly affected by the recent actions. Now prepping that info for publication here ... soon!

 

[LaurieJim]

Is any type of gambling legal in the State of Tennessee. I am all ears

Tennessee State Lottery.......Bingo at the local Church, havent seen a Nun arrested Yet.............laurie

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Tennessee State Lottery.......Bingo at the local Church, havent seen a Nun arrested Yet.............laurie

I'll PM the law!

 

[NASHVEGAS]

"Visa will follow suit" is not stupid. Ask a former member and current member of your POC club to share my Sept. and Nov. 2009 PM replies. Permission granted.

So that POC is not just privy, some excerpts of my 11-16-2009 PM reply to a very very respected member of this forum. That said, I am not the gospel so just call me stupid. Wouldn't want to phuck up anyone's agenda


"BoA, as well as Chase, Capital One et al, all are aware of what is going on with the use of non-prepaid CC's"

"The thing that makes no sense is they know it is online gambling and still release which to me is a red flag."

"They also are well aware of all the false vendors names that the casinos/processors are using for online deposits via CC."

"Call me stupid, but sometimes the mindset of this forum blows me away. Essentially, none of us are fooling anybody imo. The question is: "Will there ever be any consequences with all the info we make available, that is available? I have no clue but I have basically decided the risk is not worth the reward."

".......So even if I win ,I lose!!"

 

[NASHVEGAS]

From an August 2009 PM on another forum. The context is not directly related to CC's fwiw:

"I've known this for several days and if I said QT which I indirectly reference in my first post of the chat will be done soon, well F**k that"

Yeah, yeah I know, spill the beans-that a'int happening so flame moi......Hang tight fellow members. Time will tell for better or worse!

 

[Richard]

So that POC is not just privy, some excerpts of my 11-16-2009 PM reply to a very very respected member of this forum. That said, I am not the gospel so just call me stupid. Wouldn't want to phuck up anyone's agenda


"BoA, as well as Chase, Capital One et al, all are aware of what is going on with the use of non-prepaid CC's"

"The thing that makes no sense is they know it is online gambling and still release which to me is a red flag."

"They also are well aware of all the false vendors names that the casinos/processors are using for online deposits via CC."

"Call me stupid, but sometimes the mindset of this forum blows me away. Essentially, none of us are fooling anybody imo. The question is: "Will there ever be any consequences with all the info we make available, that is available? I have no clue but I have basically decided the risk is not worth the reward."

".......So even if I win ,I lose!!"

What some people don't realize. Is some of these new casinos and ewallets are government fronts. They unexpectly send these places there ID, bills, and account information. A lot of people don't even report this as income on there taxes. I smell something rotten coming down the tubes. USEMYWALLET is an US OP setup all the way. WATCH and SEE!

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Tennessee State Lottery.......Bingo at the local Church, havent seen a Nun arrested Yet.............laurie

Link of Tennessee Law sent via PM.

BTW, the voters of Tennessee amended the State's Constitution to permit a State lottery.

I did not PM the Tennessee Charitable Gaming Implementation Law for Charitable Fund Raising. Oddly, iirc , Bingo is not authorized like raffles for example. Can PM if you desire???

 

[LaurieJim]

Where does it say online gambling?

Maybe i have bad eyes but i see no where about online gambling, i will put the link up for our state and maybe someone can point out where it says its illegal to gamble online in the State of Tennessee.

Thanks Nash for the info I really didnt want to see those poor Nuns thrown in the slammer............laurie

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[Simmo!]

Laurie/Richard - leave it there (use your "Ignore" buttons if you have to) and keep on-topic please.

Cheers,

Simmo!

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Maybe i have bad eyes but i see no where about online gambling, i will put the link up for our state and maybe someone can point out where it says its illegal to gamble online in the State of Tennessee.

Thanks Nash for the info I really didnt want to see those poor Nuns thrown in the slammer............laurie

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I suppose one could argue legally that "online" does not comes under the broad legal definition of "Gambling" as stated.

Would probably depend on which side of the bed a Judge woke up on if the technicality was applicable but imo the broad definition is clear and includes all gambling except the stated authorized (which most all are part of the Tennessee Charitable Gaming Implementation Law for Charitable Fund Raising as well as the current State constitution).

Of course, it certainly would eliminate all doubt if "online" was specifically included in the "Definitions". Doubt is good for attornies