New Slot Announcement Machina Megaways by Kalamba 337x Feature Buy!
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Yeah, but it's all about the Gold internal jackpot which pays 1000x, although the win you'd have to trigger that would pay a couple of hundred x bet too, plus you'd collect more wins leading up to that point in the 20-75 range. So I'd say at the outside 2000x bet is possible, anything in excess of that would be fantasy land.
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In theory most likely YES.
Will they occur, most likely very very very seldom.
The new money gobbler has arrived.
More cars and houses will be at risk with these kind of slots coming out.
I don't like the way online gambling is going.
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Yeah, forgive me as I was still in shock after paying 1011x bet for 3 features!thanks for vid, although you forgot to say Gamble Responsibly this time, something I think make a lot of sense for this one
My main issue with this slot is that the difference between getting a 6OAK on the lowest payer and the highest payer is only 2x. Makes the base game drone on without any hard drivers to look for.
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Pretty much this, though a solid trigger of the jackpot itself pays a pretty good amount. 3-3-3-3-2-2 would pay about 1000x itself, + the 1000x for the jackpot. Hypothetically, you could hit that twice in the same set of free spins, but good luck with that. Maybe on each spin there's like a 2-3% chance or so of a gold jackpot trigger with all symbols converted?
An impossible dream hit on this slot would be something like 4-4-4-4-4-4 of the main symbol, which would be 13,700x + 1000x jackpot = 14,700x... so basically 15,000x is the virtual limit.
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Wait till you see how some manufacturers (Electrocoin for example) have got around the new 2 quid stake rule... It's funny, but exactly what I would have done. Just goes to show you the government don't have a clue as there are ways around it
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It's a very odd design decision... there is a
RTP in the pots that, to win, most of the time you have to have a big win from the top symbol... So why not just have put that money in to better too symbol pays...
RTP in the pots that, to win, most of the time you have to have a big win from the top symbol... So why not just have put that money in to better too symbol pays...
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im....almost waiting for the meagreways...back to a 5 line slot 
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I don't like how Kalamba makes most of the slots have a "jackpot" or have "missions" since I feel they take too much of the RTP away from making the base and bonus features on the slots better. They did a bad job with this slot IMO. :/
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Does anyone else feel that demo play on this might be rigged ? Don't have a big enough sample on my own ofc
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This honestly scares me to think about how much people will lose. Will be interesting to see how many real money posts we see going forward
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Guys - go and check out Craig's stream video in winner videos thread. He did buy in real money 3 or 4 features at 337x bet. Look what happened.
He's currently sacrificing small animals on an altar for Big Time Gaming.
He's currently sacrificing small animals on an altar for Big Time Gaming.
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Wait till you see how some manufacturers (Electrocoin for example) have got around the new 2 quid stake rule... It's funny, but exactly what I would have done. Just goes to show you the government don't have a clue as there are ways around it
Do tell? Some sort of pre-game pie gamble (like the original Magic Games "£25") I'm guessing?
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Just been watching Bandits latest video, a very lucky escape there!
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Guys - go and check out Craig's stream video in winner videos thread. He did buy in real money 3 or 4 features at 337x bet. Look what happened.
He's currently sacrificing small animals on an altar for Big Time Gaming.
Could you please post a link?
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I might add that minimum bet on the slot is 0.60 credits, so not exactly the low-roller friendly game.
Hit this on my first feature buy today in demo mode - Level 4 for a cost of 337.08x bet. Had all characters transformed with 10 spins left and triggered an extra +2 once. Gave Gold Jackpot 4x and Silver 1x.
End result: 1,271.5x bet ..... so it can pay big. The total win on the last spin of 940 includes the GOLD jackpot pay.
Hit this on my first feature buy today in demo mode - Level 4 for a cost of 337.08x bet. Had all characters transformed with 10 spins left and triggered an extra +2 once. Gave Gold Jackpot 4x and Silver 1x.
End result: 1,271.5x bet ..... so it can pay big. The total win on the last spin of 940 includes the GOLD jackpot pay.
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How many attempts needed ?!
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The first feature buy today, plus 10 feature buys two days ago and IIRC 7 organic 3-scatter triggers yesterday. In total 17 features but the first one today.
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Wait till you see how some manufacturers (Electrocoin for example) have got around the new 2 quid stake rule... It's funny, but exactly what I would have done. Just goes to show you the government don't have a clue as there are ways around it
Don't tell me - they've resorted to the old 'super spins' mechanic or something, where your wins at £2 stake can be spent on a 'separate' game board or reel set? Or allowed you play £2 stakes on separate reel sets or games simultaneously? It'll be interesting to find out...
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probably the second option, old idea that wants nipping in the bud, simple enough to do if they only allow 1 spin every few seconds.
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I'm a bit suspicious of demo mode. I've never had a particularly bad result from it.
In fact on several occasions I've gone from the initial 5k balance to 50/60k, just from buying the biggest bonus, my balance will allow
In fact on several occasions I've gone from the initial 5k balance to 50/60k, just from buying the biggest bonus, my balance will allow
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Well, watching Craig's winner video where he bought in 3x337 18-spin bonuses, it certainly didn't perform as well as it did in my demo play. It was brutal. Then again, it was only 3 bonuses. It reminds me of White Rabbit buy-ins, where the nature of the feature mechanic usually means you'll get a significant amount of the buy-in cost back on average.
EDIT - have just run 10 18-spin demo buys, struggling NOT to make a profit on any on them! Only 2/10 paid less than cost, one at 43e one at 15e. Rest were all 3-600x unitary bet. A bit suspicious about the demo I have.
Second edit - my best in 30 features of 18-spins. 1666x
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Indeed. Some of the old £25 jackpot 25p machines had a very dodgy setup like a fast version of the extra chilli gamble where you had to hit a small green segment just to spin the reels, effectively paying £1 per spin on average when the max stake was 30p at the time
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Exactly that. Place your bets (up to 30 quid) and then spin a wheel at 2 quid a time with a 1 in X (where X is total chip value divided by 2, multiplied by RTP - e.g at 30 quid chips, 1 in 16.5 if RTP is 90%) chance of playing roulette. So in other words this game is far less fair than 20p Roulette with a 30 quid minimum stake. Is at a lower RTP. But hey, it's legal.
Well done government. Well done.
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So the treasury might not now lose as much tax from FOBTs as they first anticipated.Exactly that. Place your bets (up to 30 quid) and then spin a wheel at 2 quid a time with a 1 in X (where X is total chip value divided by 2, multiplied by RTP - e.g at 30 quid chips, 1 in 16.5 if RTP is 90%) chance of playing roulette. So in other words this game is far less fair than 20p Roulette with a 30 quid minimum stake. Is at a lower RTP. But hey, it's legal.
Well done government. Well done.
So they can now forget about the increased tax for online operators, which was going to cover the loss from FOBTs.
Can't they?
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Parallel/simultaneous games are not allowed...
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So the treasury might not now lose as much tax from FOBTs as they first anticipated.
So they can now forget about the increased tax for online operators, which was going to cover the loss from FOBTs.
Can't they?
I doubt it's going to take the same amount of money... but its a way around the regulations...
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They can probably still afford to knock a few percent off the online gaming tax though, lol
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Did anybody try to get the bonus feature in the normal game? Maybe it's more advantageous to just play it (for example for 300 spins) instead of buying the feature for x337?
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You can read here my results from a 2-hour test run. Wasn't really a blast. 
New Slot Announcement - Machina Megaways by Kalamba 337x Feature Buy!
New Slot Announcement - Machina Megaways by Kalamba 337x Feature Buy!
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This is f*cking SHOCKING when you think about it.
20 x 18-spin feature buys on max £36 stake would cost you near the average price of a UK house. (A garage down South, a street up North.)
EDIT - sorry I mean 20 max bet feature buys.
20 x 18-spin feature buys on max £36 stake would cost you near the average price of a UK house. (A garage down South, a street up North.)
EDIT - sorry I mean 20 max bet feature buys.
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Two and a half years complete slots budget for just ONE 18 FS Buy in!
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i was lucky to trigger it in my 2nd spin 50x in total
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I'm curious if the novelty of the giant feature buy actually drives much more attention and play to this slot than it would have otherwise received with a 50-100x feature buy.
Or if's the opposite, and the giant feature buy puts some people off who would have been happy to buy something like a 65x feature buy that gives you a random 3-6 scatter feature (with the low end being more likely). But they see the 300x+ price and run away instead of buying a smaller feature.
I'm guessing the first, but tough to say.
Or if's the opposite, and the giant feature buy puts some people off who would have been happy to buy something like a 65x feature buy that gives you a random 3-6 scatter feature (with the low end being more likely). But they see the 300x+ price and run away instead of buying a smaller feature.
I'm guessing the first, but tough to say.
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Got to admire the innovation in this country, esp when it makes money for the taxman,wont be the only loophole
Sorry referring to the roulette comments, seems to be in the wrong place
Sorry referring to the roulette comments, seems to be in the wrong place
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This is f*cking SHOCKING when you think about it.
20 x 18-spin feature buys on max £36 stake would cost you near the average price of a UK house. (A garage down South, a street up North.)
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EDIT - sorry I mean 20 max bet feature buys.
Don't worry, the Parliamentary Committee that was instrumental in forcing the Government to reduce max FOBT stakes to £2 has now switched its focus to online gaming. All this feature buy stuff will be a distant memory in the UK, perhaps sooner than we think.
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An MP could afford 10 max bet spins on their salary. Actually, after tax, assuming the spongers pay any, that would be about 5-6 spins.
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how the hell do they extend playtime? Surely you'll always have a longer session spinning normally?
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Because the features take quite a while to play, the RTP rises very slightly and the construct means you're likely to get a reasonable part of the cost back on average to buy more and so-on.
