Life changing win at Winward Casino!

[jackanory2279]

I reported this post and asked the mods to put you in the quit gambling forum.

Please look for help and take this as a lesson never to forget.
I wish you the best!

i reckon the op would have gotten a good chunk of that money... if not all of it.
even if its slow payments..

they are a dodgy casino but not completely dodgy.. there goal was to delay you into reversing it and getting the withdrawal down as much as they could sueese/..they would of messed you around.. but in the end you would have gotten most if not all of that money.

 

[spintee]

I can only imagine how this guy must be feeling..

I have done this on large amounts for me. On this kind of money I would be inconsolable.

OP - Seriously, get help from GA or a similar body.

The money was useless to him, He said that he was baned from sister sites so even if they would of payed they would not of done, Again why waste time spending 80k in pink notes and why barred straight after the cash spent?

Does not add up

 

[grnmountainman]

I reported this post and asked the mods to put you in the quit gambling forum.

Please look for help and take this as a lesson never to forget.
I wish you the best!

Thank you and I appreciate that, I truly do. Never meant to hurt anybody, but boy oh boy do I feel like a beeping pile of poo. I am quitting this awful habit and will try my damndest. Luckily I am in good financial position with everything I want and need, a great home and family. This is serving as one HELL of a wake-up call. Too bad it had to come down to this. Thank you again for the supportive words, they are much needed right now.

 

[jackanory2279]

The money was useless to him, He said that he was baned from sister sites so even if they would of payed they would not of done, Again why waste time spending 80k in pink notes and why barred straight after the cash spent?

Does not add up

they might have a system in place that auto bans from all other sites..
they might of been doing a good thing and saving him from losing the rest of his withdrawal.

 

[The Dude]

They wouldn't pay it as they had blacklisted me from there sister sites. I had no possible way of collecting any of that money...

You didn't know this. KK was helping, and the big guns weren't even brought in yet.

Anyway, it looks like you're a few k's ahead. Whatever you do, don't blow it at any casinos. Go here instead: Old URL

I'm moving your account to the "non-gambling" section.

Cheers!

 

[spintee]

they might have a system in place that auto bans from all other sites..
they might of been doing a good thing and saving him from losing the rest of his withdrawal.

You didn't know this. KK was helping, and the big guns weren't even brought in yet.

Anyway, it looks like you're a few k's ahead. Whatever you do, don't blow it at any casinos. Go here instead: Old URL

I'm moving your account to the "non-gambling" section.

Cheers!

What have I missed, I asked him did he receive any think and he said NO? You said Byran he is a few K's ahead? I know the thread has come hot topic so I may have missed something

 

[jackanory2279]

What have I missed, I asked him did he receive any think and he said NO? You said Byran he is a few K's ahead? I know the thread has come hot topic so I may have missed something

he still has a 5k pending withdrawal.. and hes blocked only after losing 75k.

now theres 2 reasons for him being blocked..
[either they are doing somethin good and saving him from losing the rest of his withdrawl/
or
he went in to the chat after he lost and gave them alot of shit. i meen who wouldnt after losing 75k
and being pissed around

 

[spintee]

he still has a 5k pending withdrawal.. and hes blocked only after losing 75k.

now theres 2 reasons for him being blocked..
[either they are doing somethin good and saving him from losing the rest of his withdrawl/
or
he went in to the chat after he lost and gave them alot of shit. i meen who wouldnt after losing 75k
and being pissed around

I missed that bit than,I had like 45 emails in a space of 5mins, I thought he had tried to take 500 out and baned for him excluding from sister sites

 

[shewoff]

Good move Bryan, But can i be the devil,s advocate here for just a sec?At this moment has anybody concerned seen anything to proof that this event even happened? I mean Bryan ask for the e-mail,s or chat copies that he had gotten from the support and he came back that he could not produce them.RIGHT? And now after how many people here trying to boost his karma and to tell him to keep it tough. He drop,s the ball and spend,s it all? It,s kinda dodgy there grnmountainman I feel a bit put out. I really feel that my time and god forbid a heavy weight like KK and then maybe even Bryan to his rescue here in a public forum? I,m stunned to the ground Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff​

 

[rockycatt]

sounds like a fish tale to me pulling our leg

 

[catcountry21]

Looks like I had another username here so since I can't post anymore under my other username I will give one final update.

I had an email in my spam from yesterday that I did not see prior to posting this am. Looks like this was sent right after my account was locked.

To paraphrase Winward said that none of my winnings will be paid out as I had violated the "house rules" of the site. No other explanation given. I called the customer service number and was told the same thing. I asked if the bets were too large and they said nobody is willing or has to tell me why my winnings would have never been paid out. They said the withdrawal of 5000 has been cancelled and that my 350 dollar deposit will be refunded.

 

[ginzink]

If the story is true i realy feel sorry for you op, will never ever think of trying their casino!

 

[maxd]

Looks like I had another username here ...

Yeah, grnmountainman is your other account and you've proven there that you are prime candidate for the as-yet-unannounced Butt-Head Player Of The Year Award.

Your Casinomeister accounts are now either disabled or out to pasture. If you want to appeal that you will have to contact the Admin -- Casinomeister -- and explain your two accounts BS.

 

[jshort]

This is the weirdest tale Ive ever read here on CM. In anycase, goodluck OP.

Regardless of whether or not what happened to you was true, I feel like this story does illuminate a very deep dark and addictive side to human nature and gambling. Obviously the darkness affects some more than others (and I hazard a guess that you seem to be influenced more than the average person).

I hope this experience will be a positive financial outcome for you in the long run.

 

[nutnut]

I'd usually have sympathy for people, but i find what has happened offensive. Anyone who can lose that much after winning it feels like the win was wasted on you. That money is life changing, yet he had no respect for it and play it like was £20!

 

[xalksx]

I read this thread right threw lol

First thoughts "shill" then i thought na he is not a shill there is something just not ringing right here .Now the first thing that popped in my head was bonus abuse ..I never ever take bonuses unless there "cash bonuses/None deposit ones/Good will" ..And these all carry T&c but to spin £100 a spin lmao no way ..He has been a "lurker" here ? But did not see any posts about bonuses ,no way he would have been paid that.I think he either new there was no chance in hell he was going to get the coin and i also think if he did win this money he had already realized that he had no chance of getting it so tried to get it right up maybe 2/3/4/500k and then it look a really good tail .

I do think he wasted peoples time in the process as im sure max etc had already spoken about actions/plans .Even if i had won this money from the top 3 casinos id be flapping .Thinking "have i broke a term" .He has not played seriously thinking he was going to get it .Was a funny read all the same .

 

[dunover]

Yes, the efforts of people to advise and help have clearly been wasted here, including my own.
It still won't put me off from taking people who need help or advice at face value, even when some slap you in the face afterwards.
I guess that like Max you kinda get used to it, but irrespective of how it negs you off you have to just smile and carry on to the next one.

There will always be chaff in the wheat.

 

[xalksx]

Yes, the efforts of people to advise and help have clearly been wasted here, including my own.
It still won't put me off from taking people who need help or advice at face value, even when some slap you in the face afterwards.
I guess that like Max you kinda get used to it, but irrespective of how it negs you off you have to just smile and carry on to the next one.

There will always be chaff in the wheat.

Yea thats what sort of made me a little pissed .I do not no use guys i do go on thepogg allot but i no yous all do allot of great work and it takes lots of man/women hours .if the guy had just come on said "ah i think ive broken some rules" and got advice then cool but he played it

 

[Jasminebed]

I am no fan of such low weekly payouts, that's for sure.

But for that kind of money, I would have stayed the course and kept on them to keep paying.

I hope he at least gets the $5K withdrawl he initiated. But I suspect it will be reversed back to his account.

Jackals smell blood.

 

[Tirilej]

I am no fan of such low weekly payouts, that's for sure.

But for that kind of money, I would have stayed the course and kept on them to keep paying.

I hope he at least gets the $5K withdrawl he initiated. But I suspect it will be reversed back to his account.

Jackals smell blood.

If you go back reading then you'll see that SHE will get her deposit back.
The top post on this page under another username.

She knew from the start she wouldn't get paid so created a new username to blackmail the casino through this forum.
There are so many like this out there. Don't believe anything or anyone who's new here is my advice. You never know all of it.

 

[dunover]

If you go back reading then you'll see that SHE will get her deposit back.
The top post on this page under another username.

She knew from the start she wouldn't get paid so created a new username to blackmail the casino through this forum.
There are so many like this out there. Don't believe anything or anyone who's new here is my advice. You never know all of it.

Yes, I can understand that point of view, but there is the danger we could all become over-cynical and not help any new posters here. So unless it's an immediately obvious pile of BS give them the benefit of the doubt, until they deserve otherwise (as in this case )

 

[ginzink]

Yes, I can understand that point of view, but there is the danger we could all become over-cynical and not help any new posters here. So unless it's an immediately obvious pile of BS give them the benefit of the doubt, until they deserve otherwise (as in this case )

I just noticed your signature “There are twelve days of Christmas - NONE OF WHICH ARE IN FUCKING NOVEMBER!" :lolsign:

In Norway on top of the November christmas we had Black Friday the whole week last week, and this week it is still going strong for another Black friday week :machinegu

 

[shewoff]

dunover I can completely understand your point of view here. And if we do become cynical here then it is true it will be harder to trust I agree completely and the fact is we are some of us here to HELP> I honestly do feel that this man or woman or what or whom ever? It is has done enough damage and it would not help us to do anymore to help with it,s cause? Don,t you agree it has lied openly here on our own forum? The mere fact that it has more than one acct. here is a wide open lie and saying that they forgot or any other reason is feeding the lie,s behind IT.I feel for it but why would it lie? This is the $5000.00 question, Why lie too people who will help other than to try to discredit us or god forbid some other reason? I,m blown away by this whole matter and it will haunt me that we gave credence to it by trying to help?
I know i,am a low man on the totem pole here but i have learned a great deal from many here you included and to see someone who we all tried to help, manipulate the system that is in place to HELP! It was wrong I,am sorry but on this I,am sure it is correct to stop even trying to proof it anymore. And i honestly do agree we must trust to help anyone. Until they show their real color,s and it has done that. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff​

 

[dunover]

dunover I can completely understand your point of view here. And if we do become cynical here then it is true it will be harder to trust I agree completely and the fact is we are some of us here to HELP> I honestly do feel that this man or woman or what or whom ever? It is has done enough damage and it would not help us to do anymore to help with it,s cause? Don,t you agree it has lied openly here on our own forum? The mere fact that it has more than one acct. here is a wide open lie and saying that they forgot or any other reason is feeding the lie,s behind IT.I feel for it but why would it lie? This is the $5000.00 question, Why lie too people who will help other than to try to discredit us or god forbid some other reason? I,m blown away by this whole matter and it will haunt me that we gave credence to it by trying to help?
I know i,am a low man on the totem pole here but i have learned a great deal from many here you included and to see someone who we all tried to help, manipulate the system that is in place to HELP! It was wrong I,am sorry but on this I,am sure it is correct to stop even trying to proof it anymore. And i honestly do agree we must trust to help anyone. Until they show their real color,s and it has done that. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff​

I used to feel a bit affronted by taking time to reply and help these types of numpties only to be let down and the temptation to feel a bit foolish afterwards. But I've learned that overall I'm prepared to feel I've wasted my time for 4 chancers, if every fifth one has been proven genuine.
That's the nature of our hobby - it brings the worst facets of people out; greed, deceit, blackmail, stupidity and addiction most of which were apparent in the OP. Just forget it and move on.

 

[maxd]

That's the nature of our hobby - it brings the worst facets of people out; greed, deceit, blackmail, stupidity and addiction ...

Yup, +1.

 

[Tirilej]

I used to feel a bit affronted by taking time to reply and help these types of numpties only to be let down and the temptation to feel a bit foolish afterwards. But I've learned that overall I'm prepared to feel I've wasted my time for 4 chancers, if every fifth one has been proven genuine.
That's the nature of our hobby - it brings the worst facets of people out; greed, deceit, blackmail, stupidity and addiction most of which were apparent in the OP. Just forget it and move on.

I never said we shouldn't help those who ask for it. Of course we should and I believe I've done my fair share of that for years now.
I'm not cynical yet. I just choose which battle to fight.
If I don't think I can help I don't even try. This was such a case.

Please keep on doing what you're doing dunover. I know you're a fool but you don't trust all fools just because of that

 

[Jono777]

Said I would not put any more in this thread but 1 last post!

Q. Isn't it nice when we give someone the benefit of the doubt and it turns out that they were truthful from the off?

Isn't it nice when that person get a 'result' and then they thank you for your help and input?

Yes few and far between perhaps but still happens from time to time.

....or maybe I am just TOO nice

 

[Tirilej]

Said I would not put any more in this thread but 1 last post!

Q. Isn't it nice when we give someone the benefit of the doubt and it turns out that they were truthful from the off?

Isn't it nice when that person get a 'result' and then they thank you for your help and input?

Yes few and far between perhaps but still happens from time to time.

....or maybe I am just TOO nice

I think that was a strange question and somehow this discussion started because I told you to not trust everything anyone say, and especially not a newbie.
I thought we all here helped those who needed it, no matter what it is about. Casino or player, or just as a friend.
We should not be blind though and that's what I meant.

No Jon, you're not too nice.

 

[Jono777]

I think that was a strange question and somehow this discussion started because I told you to not trust everything anyone say, and especially not a newbie.
I thought we all here helped those who needed it, no matter what it is about. Casino or player, or just as a friend.
We should not be blind though and that's what I meant.

No Jon, you're not too nice.

Just saved me a Christmas Card

Ps: I did not start this discussion

Hope to see you at the MM

 

[Harry_BKK]

I used to feel a bit affronted by taking time to reply and help these types of numpties only to be let down and the temptation to feel a bit foolish afterwards. But I've learned that overall I'm prepared to feel I've wasted my time for 4 chancers, if every fifth one has been proven genuine.
That's the nature of our hobby - it brings the worst facets of people out; greed, deceit, blackmail, stupidity and addiction most of which were apparent in the OP. Just forget it and move on.

I'm with you on this one dunover

Although off-topic but a typical example from my life experience: the amount of times i borrowed money to friends, family and "thought-to-be" friends only to never receive anything back is staggering. Yet even today if somebody comes to me and is asking for help the first thing i ask is: "how much do you need?"

Will i change because some people never paid back what they owed me??? Definitely not!!!

Hence, anybody coming to this forum and posts a complaint/problem etc will get the benefit of doubt and i will always try to be helpful. If it turns out to be a fake/cheat/abuser etc then so be it.

My great grandfather told me when i was 7 years old and trying to hide that i had broken his 40 year old pipe: "lies have short feet" - meaning the truth will always catch up with you

 

[shewoff]

All very wise comment,s and from the heart this is why we are the best!Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy​

 

[Jono777]

I'm with you on this one dunover

Although off-topic but a typical example from my life experience: the amount of times i borrowed money to friends, family and "thought-to-be" friends only to never receive anything back is staggering. Yet even today if somebody comes to me and is asking for help the first thing i ask is: "how much do you need?"

Will i change because some people never paid back what they owed me??? Definitely not!!!

Hence, anybody coming to this forum and posts a complaint/problem etc will get the benefit of doubt and i will always try to be helpful. If it turns out to be a fake/cheat/abuser etc then so be it.

My great grandfather told me when i was 7 years old and trying to hide that i had broken his 40 year old pipe: "lies have short feet" - meaning the truth will always catch up with you

Yup! - I've suffered this one a good few times too and still I will never learn, find It hard to say no and even harder to watch others struggle. Not that I am particularly well off or anything but will always help others if and when I can

Ps: You ain't got a a spare tenner knocking around have you Harry ?

 

[Harry_BKK]

Yup! - I've suffered this one a good few times too and still I will never learn, find It hard to say no and even harder to watch others struggle. Not that I am particularly well off or anything but will always help others if and when I can

Ps: You ain't got a a spare tenner knocking around have you Harry ?

Sure mate, send me a PM with your Neteller or Ecopayz details and i'll transfer it first thing in the morning when i switch my laptop on

Can't do it from my mobile, unfortunately. When I load my ewallets i get an OTP for the VbV authentication and i need to switch then screens to see the code. When i switch then back it times out the banking page, probably for security reasons. I'm in bed already, 3.30am here in BKK but could do it when i get up in the morning.

 

[Jono777]

Aw bless ya mate, what a bloke

Guess I need to work on my SOH, I was just joking in relation to us both lending out cash we never see again.

I would never ask to borrow, especially not on a gambling forum!

For you generous offer however may every DOA feature be a wild line and every wild desire a 5-reeler!!

 

[Biti]

I'm with you on this one dunover

Although off-topic but a typical example from my life experience: the amount of times i borrowed money to friends, family and "thought-to-be" friends only to never receive anything back is staggering. Yet even today if somebody comes to me and is asking for help the first thing i ask is: "how much do you need?"

Will i change because some people never paid back what they owed me??? Definitely not!!!

Hence, anybody coming to this forum and posts a complaint/problem etc will get the benefit of doubt and i will always try to be helpful. If it turns out to be a fake/cheat/abuser etc then so be it.

My great grandfather told me when i was 7 years old and trying to hide that i had broken his 40 year old pipe: "lies have short feet" - meaning the truth will always catch up with you

I agree with this. I've learned my lesson too. I hate that if I have to act like a credit management department because people do not pay back the date they promised to pay back. Now, I do not borrow anymore. I am not a bank. If they want to borrow some money, than they'd better go to the bank. If the bank does not want to borrow them, why should I borrow them than?

 

[KasinoKing]

I agree with this. I've learned my lesson too. I hate that if I have to act like a credit management department because people do not pay back the date they promised to pay back. Now, I do not borrow anymore. I am not a bank. If they want to borrow some money, than they'd better go to the bank. If the bank does not want to borrow them, why should I borrow them than?

Not picking on you in particular - but you LEND other people money, or BORROW it from them.
Seems very strange to me that some cultures/people use the same word for these two things

KK

 

[sledge13]

Great to see my all time fave band Talk Talk in here, "Such A Shame" classic!

Re the original poster, I don't believe a word of it..."the charade goes on...."

 

[Biti]

Not picking on you in particular - but you LEND other people money, or BORROW it from them.
Seems very strange to me that some cultures/people use the same word for these two things

KK

My English is not so good, but indeed we have the same word for lend and borrow from.

 

[hhhelllo]

Wow.. I havent read this thread for a couple of days... The OP blew 80k...

I feel bad for this person... Even if we all know this is a degenerate problematic behavior... It is kinda hard not to feel a little pain in the stomach...

We all reversed and lost a withdrawal a one point... I already lost 1k doing that... And I felt sick for a couple of days.... 2 weeks salary down the drain....

Doing this with 80k... 160k canadians for me.... I would probably do a very bad thing....

I really wish it hurts enough so the OP never gambles again.... What a sickening story...

Merry christmas I guess

 

[jshort]

Wow.. I havent read this thread for a couple of days... The OP blew 80k...

I feel bad for this person... Even if we all know this is a degenerate problematic behavior... It is kinda hard not to feel a little pain in the stomach...

We all reversed and lost a withdrawal a one point... I already lost 1k doing that... And I felt sick for a couple of days.... 2 weeks salary down the drain....

Doing this with 80k... 160k canadians for me.... I would probably do a very bad thing....

I really wish it hurts enough so the OP never gambles again.... What a sickening story...

Merry christmas I guess

I felt bad for the OP too. He has a sickness/addiction. However I believe the majority of the members here felt that "tough love" was better than a pat on the back or a "It's ok buddy, it happens to the best of us"! He needs to feel the impact/stupidity of what he did so that he never does it again.

 

[Stewiethecrazy]

I just finished reading this post from start to finish.
I followed it briefly in the last few days but now I have got the full picture.

Man, oh man, what an epic fail on the OP`s side!

Only life can write stories like this!

 

[psychogene]

Thread title needs to be changed - This is no longer a 'life changing win' its a 'life changing lesson' !!!

I honestly don't know what happened to the OP and what the OP was thinking to reverse it all and lose the whole lot. OP should be thankful that it is just potential winnings that was lost and it wasn't as if the OP deposited 80K worth and lost it all (I hope).

I seriously don't think we have the whole picture here and going by what the OP has been saying the story just goes from a bad outcome to something even worst. I hope we are not been taken for a ride here because there are people on this forum that legitimately want to help others and its showing them no respect at all when the OP strings them along and then eventually reaches the point where there is nothing anyone can do.

It went from 'I don't mind accepting a few thousand dollars every month' to 'foolishly LOST the rest'. If all this is real OP (whoever you are) you seriously need to stay away from gambling as you have no self control at all.

Depositing $350 and winning $80k is not something that happens all too often and (once again if this story is all true) you just blew it - BIG TIME.

I would love to hear from the casino their side of the story but OP - learn your lesson - better to walk away with something than nothing (and in the process not waste anyones time).

 

[KasinoKing]

I would love to hear from the casino their side of the story but OP - learn your lesson - better to walk away with something than nothing (and in the process not waste anyones time).

I have just this-morning got back on to my contact at the affiliate team to try to verify if this story is true or not.
I have given them every bit of detail I know about the OP (from what he posted and what his profile says), but without a log-in name, real name or e-mail address I'm not sure they will be able to identify him.
I will report back in this thread if I get any confirmation either way...

KK

 

[Tirilej]

I have just this-morning got back on to my contact at the affiliate team to try to verify if this story is true or not.
I have given them every bit of detail I know about the OP (from what he posted and what his profile says), but without a log-in name, real name or e-mail address I'm not sure they will be able to identify him.
I will report back in this thread if I get any confirmation either way...

KK

You could start by telling it was a SHE, and that she had self excluded from their other sites.
Also that she got her deposit back but nothing more.

 

[KasinoKing]

You could start by telling it was a SHE, and that she had self excluded from their other sites.
Also that she got her deposit back but nothing more.

Yes, I told them it was either a HE living in North East (presuming that meant America), or a SHE living in Russia!
As this person had two COMPLETELY different profiles, yet were apparently the same person, it's hard to believe anything they said...

KK

 

[Tirilej]

Yes, I told them it was either a HE living in North East (presuming that meant America), or a SHE living in Russia!
As this person had two COMPLETELY different profiles, yet were apparently the same person, it's hard to believe anything they said...

KK

I would assume the original profile was correct or she wouldn't have bother set up a new one just to pressure the casino.
She can of course have moved too.

I wouldn't bother at all with this if I were you. She knew what she had done wrong and as much as I dislike TopGame and never will trust them I believe they did the right thing here.

 

[Diane]

Dont know how their VIP system works, but with bonus wagering of over 50k OP is maybe on a higher VIP Level right now and should get more than 1000 a week.

Dont know how active you were before on this site mountainman, maybe you are already on a higher VIP level. I hope you get paid in full in a timely manner. Please dont reverse a single Dollar.

I always thought that the online casinos gave you VIP status based on deposits, not on wagering?

Diane

 

[Diane]

Hey grnmountainman I sincerely do hope you get it all and more? But you have just entered into the Twilight Zone. You will experience a great deal of bull from these people and they have already started apparently with the very poor excuse for a payout. I hope it will all work out but as all of the rest have already said these guy,s are in it for them self,s only.They give a bad name too a group of great games.They are RTG are they not? I joined from a e-mail and took one look and it just look,s like other casino,s that owe me! Not any where near as much as you are owed but $10.000.00 and to me that is a lot. They took a year to process the request and now it is almost 6 months since they sent all the "Good New,s" HAH! Not even a (_*)&^*%&$^$#%@ so great to hear of your win and i will keep my finger,s crossed Brother! Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff​

Winward's software is Top Game, NOT RTG.

Diane

 

[Diane]

Documents have been approved and account has been fully verified. That didn't take long as I just submitted documents about 4 hours ago. Just submitted my maximum withdraw which it stated to be 5000 per week.

We shall see. I am logged out and not going to play any of this win back!

Is withdrawal limit $5,000 per week or $500. In the quote above you said $5,000 so I am puzzled.

Diane

 

[Diane]

Humpppf-

I wish I would have read the entire thread first. I was getting caught back up on forum posts and responded to each as I thought I had something to say........now I see after reading it through to the end that it was a real ugly mess and I wasted my time and others who bothered to read my replies.

sorry guys,

Diane

PS..........KK, kudos to you for always being willing to go to bat for people using your extensive gaming connections. I applaud the time you put in on this. You are one nice guy.

DJB