Let's quit drinking and gambling rant

[Ginogenelli]

Can you support that, or an opnion?
Addicts, in any metric, can lose income, homes, lifestyles and health

Can I support it?

My friend, gambling doesn't appear in toxicology reports. It's a hidden disease.

 

[dionysus]

Gambling can be an addiction, like, well, anything in life can
If I let a gambling addict into my house...well, my PC is password protected. My bank card requires a PW (PIN) . Sure, maybe, you could find a few quarters under my sofa.

A meth or crack head (PC terms: addicts) could walk out with mt TV and gaming stations


Point is........anything can be an addiction.
Do you, be you, be well, be safe and...wellll.....care for your boundaries

Can I support it?

My friend, gambling doesn't appear in toxicology reports. It's a hidden disease.

My personal opinion
It isnt a disease.It's a character flaw with underlying issues; at best, a disorder

I...can't help the masses
But, this is a fine site, for well-rounded opinions
Are there addicts? Yup, sure as EF
Casual players, yup
And non-players yeah

Be cognizant
Research
Do your due diligence
Really, knowledge, today, is FREE if willing
Otherwise, it's willful ignorance

 

[Ginogenelli]

I'm not having a pop at the site. The site is the battlefield on which many sides gather

Gambling as a pastime is my gripe. I've had a go at all the vices. The hardest to shake is gambling. And that's because it's so normal.

 

[dionysus]

What's the difference?

A disease if something that can't be helped

A character flaw with underlying issues is blaming the addict

I don't...MUCH....blame addicts (however, along the way, there WAS a choice, but, as well, I understand, noone chose to slide down that slippery hill)

Gambling is an addiction. Disease is debateable and semantics.

As far as gambling. Dont blame the system. Blame education and undersatandings. And today, understanding is FREE if anyone is willing to put a few minutes in.

I'll go back
Unless youre an utter dullard - and very smart, eductaed people CHOSE to try crack, despite ALL the info out there. But it WAS a choice.
Yes, again, that slippery slope...poor upbringing, terrible friend, life choices, circumstances....but we KNOW...it's bad (let's set aside mental issues).
But playing online
It's gaming
It's entertainment
It can be a hobby
And yes, it can be a vice (I DO get that)
But we shouldnt need to scrap the entirety for a few.
EXERCISE
Dingbats will do streroids. We shouldnt hit the gym?

 

[dionysus]

I....I believe theres addicts and responsible players too
I dont much want to debate on a late Saturday night. Agree to disagree

 

[Ginogenelli]

Education is what we are taught. Thought follows education.
If you think education can be beaten or doesn't apply then we use our thought.
Our brains are massive dickheads. "I know we're told not to do *insert bad thing*"
But we can handle it can't we. We'll try it once anyway.

I live in Blackpool. A town that anyone who lives in the UK will tell you is beyond fucked. Google 'blackpool life expectancy'. It's a gambling town. Besides that there is smack, spice, cocaine and steroids.

 

[dionysus]

Irrespective of where ya bloody live
Youre online, ya?
The time it takes for anyone to post or sign up, or play online , is as much as to do your due diligence
Can read and sign up?
Read and understand where you are signing up to
Excuses are pretty damned weak

And FWIW, we ALL have meth, crack, smack. drunks, and wingnuts in every town and city

There's ignorant (unknowing)
And willfully ignorant (well, I didnt know and didnt bother).

 

[goatwack]

Blimey, we've had gambling, Social Media, alcohol and drugs to be banned, we're doing well, ComЯades!

Though as has been mentioned, there's ample reasons to find fault in any vice, and every person's circumstances are unique, there is no One-Size-Fits-All remedy. That's why the likes of the UKGC do the next best thing and ruin components of slotting so as to render it unplayable, without the outright ban - that'd be too obvious

And Blackpool, Margate and many of these seasonal nostalgic retro seaside havens have rather fallen into a state of decay, whereby they become ghost towns during Off-Season, and so with it quite a surge in drug abuse etc

I think as is the case with any of these vices, purportedly 'legal' or otherwise, urging others to do/ not do them is futile, however destructive, because it generally falls on deaf ears anyway. But there's definitely a divide between what most could easily identify as harmful, and thus avoid based on judgement (e.g drugs), and the more 'subtle yet legal' ones like gambling, alcohol, smoking and so forth

 

[TimArmstrong]

As long as there's humans there'll be those that find ways to be self- destructive, whether long- term or in compulsive pangs......not sure banning online gambling outright will have the desired effect you believe it will.

Though in all honesty the current lepered state of the industry could do with a bit of a great reset (that one's for Geordiecolin)

Hopefully soon the industry will crash and blow up into smithereens, from which a more fair, transparent and player- friendly ecosystem can emerge, you never know....

If anything needs banning from a destructive societal point of view it actually ought to be Social Media, and yes I'm being serious. Easily more damage wrought from that globally than any drunken impulsive gambling binge

Best post I've read in a while. Also agree with the disease that is social media. Even a more serious one like LinkedIn has turned into a gender equality etcetc attention seeking platform. Bad for everyones mental health.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Jesus, what kind of person judges others by their own failings?

Take a look at yourself and your own flaws before pointing the finger.

People should be free to do as they please. If you have no self-control, find ways of developing some or jump ship.

There is lots of support and ways to stop gambling. Blaming everything else but yourself is weak. Everyone knows the first step is to admit you have a problem.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Not sure that's fair.
There's idiots scrap for 0 cause..had a few and liquid courage
And those as mellow, feel less introverted, feel....social.....and well, feel less pain VS a half dozen pills
I drink
I'm not, nor ever, mean..it isnt in my nature sober or a few cups in

It's..like anything..pills, booze, exercise, drugs, gambling, Hell, beating your...er......habits.....everything in moderation is all

And there’s the point I was making

 

[Mr_Slot5]

So an alcohol ban is cool because you don't like it...

but how dare you mention banning slots, no one should tell me how to spend my money

Very selfish creatures aren't we

You missed the sarcasm in my post obviously. Read it again.

I was making a point to that poster.

 

[dionysus]

And there’s the point I was making

Well, tbf, im not sure if you were being truistic altruistic or facetious

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Well, tbf, im not sure if you were being truistic altruistic or facetious

Let the reader come to their own conclusion

 

[geordiecolin]

I realise that. But the amounts of times I've been at home, drinking and gambling.

Grim.

There is nothing I like better once my day is done than to have a few sherbets and a few spins before I fill up my water bottle

 

[ShadyFei]

I'm a little surprised to learn of a few would-be authoritarians in here. The Nanny State is alive and well in this thread!

Just like the United States, they love to ban things. You name it, they've probably banned it at some point.

Take Prohibition, for example. Look how well that turned out. Banning vices usually has unintended consequences.

 

[dave1888]

Aside from goaty @goatwack (the lighthearted humour machine)and @dionysus are you all just bitter from your losses? and trying to push your ideals on others because you’ve lost everything? Because it sounds exactly like that. You’re aware this is a gambling forum? Save it for the quit gambling thread, if you haven’t noticed yet, it’s not going down well here.

 

[shapesy]

Aside from goaty(the lighthearted humour machine)and dynosius are you all just bitter from your losses? and trying to push your ideals on others because you’ve lost everything? Because it sounds exactly like that. You’re aware this is a gambling forum? Save it for the quit gambling thread, if you haven’t noticed yet, it’s not going down well here.

Was it you that was sending PM's to others on here asking for money to gamble ? Apologies if am wrong but I do remember someone doing it. Plenty of people on here have issues with gambling but will be in denial until the cows come home myself included

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Was it you that was sending PM's to others on here asking for money to gamble ? Apologies if am wrong but I do remember someone doing it. Plenty of people on here have issues with gambling but will be in denial until the cows come home myself included

Pretty tasteless to call people out like that on a public forum. Not great etiquette.

People need to manage their own affairs, that’s the long and short of it. If you’re old enough to gamble you’re old enough to make your own decisions in life (for good or for bad).

 

[dave1888]

Was it you that was sending PM's to others on here asking for money to gamble ? Apologies if am wrong but I do remember someone doing it. Plenty of people on here have issues with gambling but will be in denial until the cows come home myself included

If you open that can of worms you’ll be throwing many members under the bus. Just don’t go there seriously. Once a rapport is created among two people a trust then as long as anything borrowed is repaid theres no harm done. If they don’t pay it back then I agree thats a problem.

 

[dionysus]

Aside from goaty(the lighthearted humour machine)and dynosius are you all just bitter from your losses? and trying to push your ideals on others because you’ve lost everything? Because it sounds exactly like that. You’re aware this is a gambling forum? Save it for the quit gambling thread, if you haven’t noticed yet, it’s not going down well here.

if youd like to reference me, do the courtesy of tagging me

 

[dave1888]

if youd like to reference me, do the courtesy of tagging me

Ah sorry yeah.

 

[goatwack]

I don't like to publicly mention money or lending issues in the public domain, even if Bryan still owes me that £20

 

[dionysus]

Ah sorry yeah.

I read EVERYTHING
If you'd like to draw me in for a stance, debate or topic, just holla
I'm here

 

[goatwack]

I read EVERYTHING
If you'd like to draw me in for a stance, debate or topic, just holla
I'm here

Calm down dear, you're not that important