LeoVegas: New Low?

[interlog]

Most streamers are allowed to bet over the max bet rule when using a bonus mate, just a perk of streaming.

Not necessarily. Look at the Bandit. He plays over the allowed max stake when playing at Casumo with a bonus. He said it many a time that he is allowed to do this because that is how he would play without a bonus. Paul (Rocknrolla) the same. He plays higher than allowed stakes.

So it may not be because they are streamers but it may be because they are high depositing players that the casino makes an exception.

If you were to put £1,000's a week into a casino, you would soon enough negotiate with them irrespective whether you stream your play or not.

 

[Playford7]

Not necessarily. Look at the Bandit. He plays over the allowed max stake when playing at Casumo with a bonus. He said it many a time that he is allowed to do this because that is how he would play without a bonus. Paul (Rocknrolla) the same. He plays higher than allowed stakes.

So it may not be because they are streamers but it may be because they are high depositing players that the casino makes an exception.

If you were to put £1,000's a week into a casino, you would soon enough negotiate with them irrespective whether you stream your play or not.

That's actually a valid point.
Although I've been a vip at a few places and deposited Within the realms of the bandit for a while, the best offer I got was a decent weekly cashback offer.
They refused point blank to give me more bonuses or adjust my max bet.
Honestly I don't hate streaming as much as you may think, I just find some are not totally honest and upfront regarding what they are given extra for streaming/affiliation/donations etc, it doesn't show slotting in the correct light.
I mean I'd love to hear from anyone on here who is up overall on slots, there's a few streamers that are, and unless you hit a monster early on it's a impossibility, it's because of the perks mentioned above that certain streamers are up.
If they where doing it like the rest of us with with no perks all of the time it's 99.9% impossible to be up on slots... the house edge sorts that argument out straight away.

 

[interlog]

That's actually a valid point.
Although I've been a vip at a few places and deposited Within the realms of the bandit for a while, the best offer I got was a decent weekly cashback offer.
They refused point blank to give me more bonuses or adjust my max bet.
Honestly I don't hate streaming as much as you may think, I just find some are not totally honest and upfront regarding what they are given extra for streaming/affiliation/donations etc, it doesn't show slotting in the correct light.
I mean I'd love to hear from anyone on here who is up overall on slots, there's a few streamers that are, and unless you hit a monster early on it's a impossibility, it's because of the perks mentioned above that certain streamers are up.
If they where doing it like the rest of us with with no perks all of the time it's 99.9% impossible to be up on slots... the house edge sorts that argument out straight away.

No streamer will disclose their affiliation earnings. No affiliate should disclose it as it is in most if not all terms- and conditions when opening up an affiliate account. I wouldn't expect Bryan to tell me how much he makes in affiliate commission as much as I wouldn't expect it from a streamer.

In terms of donations, most streamers have a running total on their Twitch page so it is not too difficult to find out.

Extras for streaming are usually free spins you can give out to the viewers on the casino you happen to stream. More deposit bonuses may be available but, again, most streamers are honest about it and disclose it.

Affiliate earnings, donations and those deposit bonuses help with the funding of the streams. It doesn't necessarily equate to making money off it though as the slots in the long run will take the perks away, unless you are one of the big streamers that sends hundreds of viewers to casinos.

 

[Playford7]

No streamer will disclose their affiliation earnings. No affiliate should disclose it as it is in most if not all terms- and conditions when opening up an affiliate account. I wouldn't expect Bryan to tell me how much he makes in affiliate commission as much as I wouldn't expect it from a streamer.

In terms of donations, most streamers have a running total on their Twitch page so it is not too difficult to find out.

Extras for streaming are usually free spins you can give out to the viewers on the casino you happen to stream. More deposit bonuses may be available but, again, most streamers are honest about it and disclose it.

Affiliate earnings, donations and those deposit bonuses help with the funding of the streams. It doesn't necessarily equate to making money off it though as the slots in the long run will take the perks away, unless you are one of the big streamers that sends hundreds of viewers to casinos.

I agree and I'd never expect anyone to tell me what they earn, just a bit more clarity that the way (a lot) fund there play is purerly by the players losing through there links and donations. And not from there own pockets from a job.
I see you used to stream yourself as you said, I've never seen you, and didn't mean any offence and I certainly don't tar every streamer with the same brush at all, but there is those out there who, let's say there moral compass is a bit way off the mark.
I also think kims drunk streams are low class and in terrible taste, I hear he's a decent guy, don't know why with the viewers the guy gets he degraded himself in the manner he did.

 

[Dinahnana]

I dropped in on a streamer this morning.
Someone asked in chat what they did for a living.
Answer was "I'm a proffesional slots player"

Is there such a thing?

I have noticed some of them now going up to silly stakes sometimes, that Roshstein did a 100 Euro bet on Firejoker yesterday, paused and said shall I do one more, took ages for dramatic effect, pressed start and got a 10,000 Euro win WTF.

I do miss Slotsplayer streams (Interlog) as he did sensible stakes, and I started to watch him because he was a member on here.
So I blame him for me wasting a hour on Twitch now and again
I watch Badazzbear as he doesnt go silly usually, dropped in on Chipmonkslots a couple of times but he usually streams on a night so dont see much of him.
Does around 60p stakes.
Would rather watch that than see someone doing 10 and 20 quid stakes.

I think I know the one your on about who said he was a "professional slots player" he said that was a joke and in fact he is an affiliate full time and does work on another website so he does actually have a day job.

I never watch or want to watch Roshstein although I have read in the streams that there is something dodgy about his whole set up. Don't know if that is true or not and frankly don't care since I don't find him entertaining at all.

I do enjoy one particular high stakes player because he has a great personality and lots of banter with the chat and admits he is a compulsive gambler although he has his other half take care of his finances and has daily deposit limits set in place so he can't go totally crazy. I don't want to give out his name but he does love Ron Zcappa rum

I love the bandits videos and I know he is not a streamer but he does keep his stakes sensible a bit high for me but he usually does 2 quid stakes sometimes a bit more. He also tapes videos from several casinos and a lot of the time doesn't take bonuses and neither does he really do a hard sell so there is that. I guess watching streams are a bit like Marmite you either love them or hate them.

Edit: Nick, Colin and Paul the streamers I like and mentioned above do post affiliate links but don't take donations which is one of the biggest reasons why I like them. Nick also stated that he does get 10% back on his losses and I see no reason to be upset about that many big gamblers in Las Vegas work out with their casino host to get similar deals.

 

[interlog]

I agree and I'd never expect anyone to tell me what they earn, just a bit more clarity that the way (a lot) fund there play is purerly by the players losing through there links and donations. And not from there own pockets from a job.
I see you used to stream yourself as you said, I've never seen you, and didn't mean any offence and I certainly don't tar every streamer with the same brush at all, but there is those out there who, let's say there moral compass is a bit way off the mark.
I also think kims drunk streams are low class and in terrible taste, I hear he's a decent guy, don't know why with the viewers the guy gets he degraded himself in the manner he did.

In terms of your first point, you have it all over the web. Click a link on Tripadvisor to book a holiday, they will take a commission without telling you. Click a link here and you're Bryan's customer. Click a link on my website and you're my customer. Not a lot of websites make it clear they are taking a cut. They only one that I know off is MoneySavingExpert who make it pretty clear they take a cut.

As to gambling and drinking. It is a big no in my opinion. I done it once on stream but cut the stream short because I felt I was not in control of things. Did Kim make a mistake? I am sure if you ask him he would give you a truthful answer.

 

[Playford7]

I think I know the one your on about who said he was a "professional slots player" he said that was a joke and in fact he is an affiliate full time and does work on another website so he does actually have a day job.

I never watch or want to watch Roshstein although I have read in the streams that there is something dodgy about his whole set up. Don't know if that is true or not and frankly don't care since I don't find him entertaining at all.

I do enjoy one particular high stakes player because he has a great personality and lots of banter with the chat and admits he is a compulsive gambler although he has his other half take care of his finances and has daily deposit limits set in place so he can't go totally crazy. I don't want to give out his name but he does love Ron Zcappa rum

I love the bandits videos and I know he is not a streamer but he does keep his stakes sensible a bit high for me but he usually does 2 quid stakes sometimes a bit more. He also tapes videos from several casinos and a lot of the time doesn't take bonuses and neither does he really do a hard sell so there is that. I guess watching streams are a bit like Marmite you either love them or hate them.

Edit: Nick, Colin and Paul the streamers I like and mentioned above do post affiliate links but don't take donations which is one of the biggest reasons why I like them. Nick also stated that he does get 10% back on his losses and I see no reason to be upset about that many big gamblers in Las Vegas work out with their casino host to get similar deals.

Nick does take donations.
Paul's loaded and the stakes and degeneracy he plays at makes my eyes water, I tried playing like that for a while then realised the fun had gone from slots and all I wanted was that massive life changer, so i switched back to max £5 bets, and I've enjoyed it loads more, like I did when I first started playing.
I'll be honest am no fan of streaming, the odd one I don't mind, just don't like the shillyness involved, if a guys just playing slots and enjoying it fair play to them, when it becomes a business and sign up threw this link that link, and they are swopping casinos like a prostitutes knickers for sign ups just makes me think they need cash to much and it's all they want.

 

[Playford7]

In terms of your first point, you have it all over the web. Click a link on Tripadvisor to book a holiday, they will take a commission without telling you. Click a link here and you're Bryan's customer. Click a link on my website and you're my customer. Not a lot of websites make it clear they are taking a cut. They only one that I know off is MoneySavingExpert who make it pretty clear they take a cut.

As to gambling and drinking. It is a big no in my opinion. I done it once on stream but cut the stream short because I felt I was not in control of things. Did Kim make a mistake? I am sure if you ask him he would give you a truthful answer.

Not judging Kim one bit. Don't even know the man, and I've made plenty of mistakes myself to even try to place myself on a high horse.
Just think when your on a public medium the way things should be done are not the way many do them.
There's clearly impressionable underage people watching these streams, and the gambling message a lot send out is rather disgraceful. The use of the word de-generate seems to be some sort of trophy word for many a streamer also.
They can post links and say they are all for responsible gambling. But there actions speak louder than words, and it's the actions that if we are honest are the most important.

 

[xxshepxx]

That Roshstein is the fakest of them all. Lives in Malta too.

Plays at the worst casino known to man and plays the wors selection of slots known to man at ridiculous stakes.

Every stream he does...EVERY stream has a big win...like that other twat that plays at multilotto who screams ello yootooobaa everytime he hits big.

Absolute farce. Its just underhand advertising.

I dropped in on a streamer this morning.
Someone asked in chat what they did for a living.
Answer was "I'm a proffesional slots player"

Is there such a thing?

I have noticed some of them now going up to silly stakes sometimes, that Roshstein did a 100 Euro bet on Firejoker yesterday, paused and said shall I do one more, took ages for dramatic effect, pressed start and got a 10,000 Euro win WTF.

I do miss Slotsplayer streams (Interlog) as he did sensible stakes, and I started to watch him because he was a member on here.
So I blame him for me wasting a hour on Twitch now and again
I watch Badazzbear as he doesnt go silly usually, dropped in on Chipmonkslots a couple of times but he usually streams on a night so dont see much of him.
Does around 60p stakes.
Would rather watch that than see someone doing 10 and 20 quid stakes.

 

[Dinahnana]

Nick does take donations.
Paul's loaded and the stakes and degeneracy he plays at makes my eyes water, I tried playing like that for a while then realised the fun had gone from slots and all I wanted was that massive life changer, so i switched back to max £5 bets, and I've enjoyed it loads more, like I did when I first started playing.
I'll be honest am no fan of streaming, the odd one I don't mind, just don't like the shillyness involved, if a guys just playing slots and enjoying it fair play to them, when it becomes a business and sign up threw this link that link, and they are swopping casinos like a prostitutes knickers for sign ups just makes me think they need cash to much and it's all they want.

Nick doesn't take donations. I was on his stream today and no donation button was there neither was there a running total. Paul is completely honest about his gambling habits and I do like him although I never watch wishing I could play with stakes like that. I just enjoy the streams and he does have a great personality. Some streamers are shills to the extreme but I don't think Colin, Paul or Nick are at all.

As technology changes and evolves we have to get used of seeing new ways of companies promoting themselves. There really isn't anything too inherently bad about that as long as the ones that do the promoting are honest stating that because they stream they get better bonuses and are allowed to play higher max bets and on restricted games so those who sign up through the links aren't led down the wrong path.

The only youtuber I have signed up with using his affiliate link is Dunover The first on Powerspins which I got lucky and just signed up with another Larry's casino will give them a bash in a couple of days. The only reason why I signed up using his links is because he is Dunover and I trust him.

 

[Playford7]

Nick doesn't take donations. I was on his stream today and no donation button was there neither was there a running total. Paul is completely honest about his gambling habits and I do like him although I never watch wishing I could play with stakes like that. I just enjoy the streams and he does have a great personality. Some streamers are shills to the extreme but I don't think Colin, Paul or Nick are at all.

As technology changes and evolves we have to get used of seeing new ways of companies promoting themselves. There really isn't anything too inherently bad about that as long as the ones that do the promoting are honest stating that because they stream they get better bonuses and are allowed to play higher max bets and on restricted games so those who sign up through the links aren't led down the wrong path.

The only youtuber I have signed up with using his affiliate link is Dunover The first on Powerspins which I got lucky and just signed up with another Larry's casino will give them a bash in a couple of days. The only reason why I signed up using his links is because he is Dunover and I trust him.

Nick 200% accepts donations, he's on here. I assure you he takes donations. Just look at some old streams on YouTube.
I signed up through a few of dunovers links, all have been great except powerspins, mainly due to there customer service.
And your above comment about honesty is the only problem I have with streamers, as they are not totally honest, not all. But most.

 

[Dinahnana]

Nick 200% accepts donations, he's on here. I assure you he takes donations. Just look at some old streams on YouTube.
I signed up through a few of dunovers links, all have been great except powerspins, mainly due to there customer service.
And your above comment about honesty is the only problem I have with streamers, as they are not totally honest, not all. But most.

Yeah I read about your issue with Powerspins was quite nervous about my cashout when I read that and was very thankful when I got paid. Agree their CS totally sucks in terms of response or lack thereof.

I haven't watched too many of the older streams for Nick as they are very long but I didn't see anything regarding donations in his last couple of streams so maybe he has stopped that who knows. Rocknrolla (Paul) did a 24 hour charity stream and that was the only time he took donations and I think he raised about 20K for a Huntington's disease. I agree many streamers are dishonest and as soon as I figure that out about a particular streamer (may take a few minutes or hours) I stop watching but I think Nick, Colin and Paul are honest and so is the Bandit. Totally my personal opinion feel free to disagree

 

[interlog]

Yeah I read about your issue with Powerspins was quite nervous about my cashout when I read that and was very thankful when I got paid. Agree their CS totally sucks in terms of response or lack thereof.

I haven't watched too many of the older streams for Nick as they are very long but I didn't see anything regarding donations in his last couple of streams so maybe he has stopped that who knows. Rocknrolla (Paul) did a 24 hour charity stream and that was the only time he took donations and I think he raised about 20K for a Huntington's disease. I agree many streamers are dishonest and as soon as I figure that out about a particular streamer (may take a few minutes or hours) I stop watching but I think Nick, Colin and Paul are honest and so is the Bandit. Totally my personal opinion feel free to disagree

Nick does take donations but it is not shown on his Youtube channel, so if you were to watch his streams on Youtube, you wouldn't know about it.

Most streamers do take donations but then again most (if not all) never actively ask nor encourage viewers to donate, unless it is for charity.

 

[Playford7]

Yeah I read about your issue with Powerspins was quite nervous about my cashout when I read that and was very thankful when I got paid. Agree their CS totally sucks in terms of response or lack thereof.

I haven't watched too many of the older streams for Nick as they are very long but I didn't see anything regarding donations in his last couple of streams so maybe he has stopped that who knows. Rocknrolla (Paul) did a 24 hour charity stream and that was the only time he took donations and I think he raised about 20K for a Huntington's disease. I agree many streamers are dishonest and as soon as I figure that out about a particular streamer (may take a few minutes or hours) I stop watching but I think Nick, Colin and Paul are honest and so is the Bandit. Totally my personal opinion feel free to disagree

Paul's as genuine as they come. Who's Colin? Never heard of that guy, the dishonesty put me off a lot of them so don't watch now.
The bandits sound, although he isn't streaming as yet, still prefer a good hour long dunover rant than a streamer peddling there wears any day of the week

 

[Dinahnana]

Paul's as genuine as they come. Who's Colin? Never heard of that guy, the dishonesty put me off a lot of them so don't watch now.
The bandits sound, although he isn't streaming as yet, still prefer a good hour long dunover rant than a streamer peddling there wears any day of the week

Yeah Dunover is tops He always 100% makes me laugh out loud with some of the stuff he comes up with. I am too a point I find myself yelling the same things to my PC screen when Twin Spin fails to put a symbol on reel 5 or I mutter Bullshit every time I get a Rhino bonus

I meant to say Craig and has a you tube channel much like the bandit very similar format.

The videos I dearly miss the most are the ones from Chopley he used to do videos a while back but stopped but he was funny as all get out. Used to do very long videos battering away at wagering on min bets or close to it. Happy days those were.

 

[Playford7]

Yeah Dunover is tops He always 100% makes me laugh out loud with some of the stuff he comes up with. I am too a point I find myself yelling the same things to my PC screen when Twin Spin fails to put a symbol on reel 5 or I mutter Bullshit every time I get a Rhino bonus

I meant to say Craig and has a you tube channel much like the bandit very similar format.

The videos I dearly miss the most are the ones from Chopley he used to do videos a while back but stopped but he was funny as all get out. Used to do very long videos battering away at wagering on min bets or close to it. Happy days those were.

I prefer stakes at a max of £3 to be honest as shows the potential without making silly bets, most now just want to be classed as degenerates like Paul as he has by far the biggest fan base, so many try to emulate him, which is hard unless your loaded.
What's Craig's channel called? I'll have a look, as long as it's not endless casino plugging I'll be happy!..
and chopley?. A fruit machine player?. Like the bandit?.

 

[Dinahnana]

I prefer stakes at a max of £3 to be honest as shows the potential without making silly bets, most now just want to be classed as degenerates like Paul as he has by far the biggest fan base, so many try to emulate him, which is hard unless your loaded.
What's Craig's channel called? I'll have a look, as long as it's not endless casino plugging I'll be happy!..
and chopley?. A fruit machine player?. Like the bandit?.

Craig's slot sessions here is a link for one of his videos. He plays at reasonable stakes mostly under £3

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[lockinlove]

I dropped in on a streamer this morning.
Someone asked in chat what they did for a living.
Answer was "I'm a proffesional slots player"

Is there such a thing?

I have noticed some of them now going up to silly stakes sometimes, that Roshstein did a 100 Euro bet on Firejoker yesterday, paused and said shall I do one more, took ages for dramatic effect, pressed start and got a 10,000 Euro win WTF.

I do miss Slotsplayer streams (Interlog) as he did sensible stakes, and I started to watch him because he was a member on here.
So I blame him for me wasting a hour on Twitch now and again
I watch Badazzbear as he doesnt go silly usually, dropped in on Chipmonkslots a couple of times but he usually streams on a night so dont see much of him.
Does around 60p stakes.
Would rather watch that than see someone doing 10 and 20 quid stakes.

I would be weary of that badazz person. I was watching a stream months ago and he was banning people for the smallest things and when people questioned him he would ban them too and tell everyone he is the best and most respected person on twitch and if they dont like it to leave. Then he started posting private messages between him and others trying to publicly shame them when they werent really doing anything but he tried to garner a hate mob and bully them because they dared to question him.

I know from twitch he comes across as liked or something and seems nice in his streams but after i saw that stream and what happened I was incredibly disgusted. It was actually part of the reason I left twitch. Just be careful with him is all.

Sorry if it sounds gossipy but I felt I needed to share because of how bad it was

 

[Playford7]

I would be weary of that badazz person. I was watching a stream months ago and he was banning people for the smallest things and when people questioned him he would ban them too and tell everyone he is the best and most respected person on twitch and if they dont like it to leave. Then he started posting private messages between him and others trying to publicly shame them when they werent really doing anything but he tried to garner a hate mob and bully them because they dared to question him.

I know from twitch he comes across as liked or something and seems nice in his streams but after i saw that stream and what happened I was incredibly disgusted. It was actually part of the reason I left twitch. Just be careful with him is all.

Sorry if it sounds gossipy but I felt I needed to share because of how bad it was

Totally agree. You are not allowed a opinion on a certain group of streamers on twitch, it's a closed subject.
The same people with a vested interest jump straight to there defence all the time.
The only guy streaming I actually have time for is fatso, find him easy going, fun and entertaining. His bets are rarely silly amounts and he likes a sensible beer and doesn't embarrass himself with it unlike others who make death threats or demand things from casinos.
See this is the side of streaming I hate, just what you mentioned, it seems there above the law, they get extras real players don't get also that they are not transparent about at all.
I have avoided any streamer linked to casinogrounds for a long time now for reasons people have already mentioned.
Before the usual jump down my throat, that's because that's the experience I have had with them, that's why I won't watch, and when a topic is brought up involving them it's my right as free speech to say it like it is. That's no personal attack, no name calling, just my honest opinion.
On a more happy note I'm going to Edinburgh zoo tomorrow with my daughter

 

[Dinahnana]

Totally agree. You are not allowed a opinion on a certain group of streamers on twitch, it's a closed subject.
The same people with a vested interest jump straight to there defence all the time.
The only guy streaming I actually have time for is fatso, find him easy going, fun and entertaining. His bets are rarely silly amounts and he likes a sensible beer and doesn't embarrass himself with it unlike others who make death threats or demand things from casinos.
See this is the side of streaming I hate, just what you mentioned, it seems there above the law, they get extras real players don't get also that they are not transparent about at all.
I have avoided any streamer linked to casinogrounds for a long time now for reasons people have already mentioned.
Before the usual jump down my throat, that's because that's the experience I have had with them, that's why I won't watch, and when a topic is brought up involving them it's my right as free speech to say it like it is. That's no personal attack, no name calling, just my honest opinion.
On a more happy note I'm going to Edinburgh zoo tomorrow with my daughter

I watch Fatso's youtube highlight vids and yeah he seems cool. Nice guy

Enjoy the Zoo and wishing you good weather for it

 

[lockinlove]

Totally agree. You are not allowed a opinion on a certain group of streamers on twitch, it's a closed subject.
The same people with a vested interest jump straight to there defence all the time.
The only guy streaming I actually have time for is fatso, find him easy going, fun and entertaining. His bets are rarely silly amounts and he likes a sensible beer and doesn't embarrass himself with it unlike others who make death threats or demand things from casinos.
See this is the side of streaming I hate, just what you mentioned, it seems there above the law, they get extras real players don't get also that they are not transparent about at all.
I have avoided any streamer linked to casinogrounds for a long time now for reasons people have already mentioned.
Before the usual jump down my throat, that's because that's the experience I have had with them, that's why I won't watch, and when a topic is brought up involving them it's my right as free speech to say it like it is. That's no personal attack, no name calling, just my honest opinion.
On a more happy note I'm going to Edinburgh zoo tomorrow with my daughter

Yeah for sure and same for me. I avoided all streams that had regs from casinogrounds aside from slotplayer. I thought he did a great job remaining neutral and just enjoyed streaming. Really enjoyed his streams to be honest even if I didnt catch that many. maybe its not fair to exclude streamers just because they are members there but I just found any channel related to that forum was just too affiliate for me. Casinomon I think is a reg there and Ive seen some his streams. He seems like his own person and a nice guy.

Another really good one I enjoyed was rewm. He's on disability because he had a stroke so he has a set income and whatever is left after his bills, he will play some slots etc. So when he wins its really great to see. Plus his bets are small so you can tell it means alot to him if he wins.

Ive never seen a fatso stream but Ive heard lot of people say hes a great guy to watch and I think he is a member here too.

Oh yeah and have fun at the zoo. Dont jump in a tiger cage if you lose your hat ;p

 

[BrianGhattas]

@lockinlove

Fatso is first class. Plays at a number of casinos, very friendly and easy going and bets normal amounts. He also has a very good way of taking slot requests. My only caveat is that he can be misogynistic with his cursing at times and I know you don't like that kind of talk at all. Just accept he's insulting the slot machine and not a woman.

Badazzbear is a friend of omgcezwho; I don't think he's as bad as he's being made out to be.

 

[lockinlove]

@lockinlove

Fatso is first class. Plays at a number of casinos, very friendly and easy going and bets normal amounts. He also has a very good way of taking slot requests. My only caveat is that he can be misogynistic with his cursing at times and I know you don't like that kind of talk at all. Just accept he's insulting the slot machine and not a woman.

Badazzbear is a friend of omgcezwho; I don't think he's as bad as he's being made out to be.

Actually I did see one of his winner videos posted here. I think he was swearing alot which is funny to me and never offensive!

No matter what anyone says about baddazz I will never like him after what I saw. Never. I know that omgcezwho likes him because badazz helped him alot to set up his channel as he has done for others but after that incident it was just way too much for me.

I saw the PM's he was posting in the chat. And his exact words were " if you dont like it, too bad. I am respected by everyone here so nothing you say matters". Very very arrogant. Then banned like 5 people who questioned him and said "anyone else wanna question me".

I will stop there because I dont want to get bashy behind someones back and I think ive said too much already.

 

[Playford7]

Yeah for sure and same for me. I avoided all streams that had regs from casinogrounds aside from slotplayer. I thought he did a great job remaining neutral and just enjoyed streaming. Really enjoyed his streams to be honest even if I didnt catch that many. maybe its not fair to exclude streamers just because they are members there but I just found any channel related to that forum was just too affiliate for me. Casinomon I think is a reg there and Ive seen some his streams. He seems like his own person and a nice guy.

Another really good one I enjoyed was rewm. He's on disability because he had a stroke so he has a set income and whatever is left after his bills, he will play some slots etc. So when he wins its really great to see. Plus his bets are small so you can tell it means alot to him if he wins.

Ive never seen a fatso stream but Ive heard lot of people say hes a great guy to watch and I think he is a member here too.

Oh yeah and have fun at the zoo. Dont jump in a tiger cage if you lose your hat ;p

Hey thanks my little girl wanted to go to bed at lunch time today so she slept quicker to get to the zoo faster haha.
Glad someone else also has a similar view to me regarding what's been said with casinogrounds and there streamers. I must be honest though that REWM you mentioned I'd happily watch and donate, watching a person win big on a small stake will always mean more to me than a de-generate betting £30 a spin.

 

[lockinlove]

Hey thanks my little girl wanted to go to bed at lunch time today so she slept quicker to get to the zoo faster haha.
Glad someone else also has a similar view to me regarding what's been said with casinogrounds and there streamers. I must be honest though that REWM you mentioned I'd happily watch and donate, watching a person win big on a small stake will always mean more to me than a de-generate betting £30 a spin.

aww thats so cute! Kids are awesome. I love when they get so excited like that

He's from British Columbia so the time difference means he streams odd hours from me. He streams usually between 8pm-1am Eastern time if you ever want to try and catch him. Its a pretty small channel, he usually has a dozen viewers but I think thats because of the time thing. His name is rewm67

 

[Playford7]

aww thats so cute! Kids are awesome. I love when they get so excited like that

He's from British Columbia so the time difference means he streams odd hours from me. He streams usually between 8pm-1am Eastern time if you ever want to try and catch him. Its a pretty small channel, he usually has a dozen viewers but I think thats because of the time thing. His name is rewm67

Thanks for that. I work out of the uk for half a month a time due to my work, sometimes crazy hours so I'll make sure i try to watch this. Thanks

 

[Playford7]

I watch Fatso's youtube highlight vids and yeah he seems cool. Nice guy

Enjoy the Zoo and wishing you good weather for it

It's supposed to be wintry and snowy showers tomorrow in Edinburgh but it'll add to the excitement!..
When I get home late on the evening with my little one and where warm and settled and she goes to sleep I may well have a deposit somewhere to relax haha!.

 

[Dinahnana]

It's supposed to be wintry and snowy showers tomorrow in Edinburgh but it'll add to the excitement!..
When I get home late on the evening with my little one and where warm and settled and she goes to sleep I may well have a deposit somewhere to relax haha!.

Well after a good day and the little one so tired she will go right to sleep enjoy your play and I hope you win and get a cashout

 

[Sonict]

I am a regular on Rewm67's channel. I enjoy pretty much all Canadian streamers... including myself even if I can't do it often.

There are a ton a decent streamers out there if you give them a look. Don't get turned off from watching casino streams because of a few ones that you dislike for one reason or another.

As for the original post... All I can say in terms of the Leovegas reps that usually are in Letsgiveitaspin's channel is that this stream where this happened is not a "scheduled" one according to Letsgiveitaspin and because of that... no staff members would be in it.

 

[interlog]

Totally agree. You are not allowed a opinion on a certain group of streamers on twitch, it's a closed subject.
The same people with a vested interest jump straight to there defence all the time.
The only guy streaming I actually have time for is fatso, find him easy going, fun and entertaining. His bets are rarely silly amounts and he likes a sensible beer and doesn't embarrass himself with it unlike others who make death threats or demand things from casinos.
See this is the side of streaming I hate, just what you mentioned, it seems there above the law, they get extras real players don't get also that they are not transparent about at all.
I have avoided any streamer linked to casinogrounds for a long time now for reasons people have already mentioned.
Before the usual jump down my throat, that's because that's the experience I have had with them, that's why I won't watch, and when a topic is brought up involving them it's my right as free speech to say it like it is. That's no personal attack, no name calling, just my honest opinion.
On a more happy note I'm going to Edinburgh zoo tomorrow with my daughter

That was Paul wasn't it? He was badly provoked in my opinion and he lost the plot not helped by being awake for 24 hours and having had a few bevvies. He did apologise afterwards.

Being drunk on stream is never clever, whether you are a good or bad streamer, liked or not liked, have 2 or 1,000's of followers.

 

[Jd666]

]I think I know the one your on about who said he was a "professional slots player" he said that was a joke[/B] and in fact he is an affiliate full time and does work on another website so he does actually have a day job.

I never watch or want to watch Roshstein although I have read in the streams that there is something dodgy about his whole set up. Don't know if that is true or not and frankly don't care since I don't find him entertaining at all.

I do enjoy one particular high stakes player because he has a great personality and lots of banter with the chat and admits he is a compulsive gambler although he has his other half take care of his finances and has daily deposit limits set in place so he can't go totally crazy. I don't want to give out his name but he does love Ron Zcappa rum

I love the bandits videos and I know he is not a streamer but he does keep his stakes sensible a bit high for me but he usually does 2 quid stakes sometimes a bit more. He also tapes videos from several casinos and a lot of the time doesn't take bonuses and neither does he really do a hard sell so there is that. I guess watching streams are a bit like Marmite you either love them or hate them.

Edit: Nick, Colin and Paul the streamers I like and mentioned above do post affiliate links but don't take donations which is one of the biggest reasons why I like them. Nick also stated that he does get 10% back on his losses and I see no reason to be upset about that many big gamblers in Las Vegas work out with their casino host to get similar deals.

Sorry, if it is the same one then I didnt catch that bit as I only popped on for a few minutes then left.
If you like watching the Youtube videos of the ones which just show the bonus rounds, try jimbocasino, if you havent seen him.

I only just used to watch the Youtube videos but found Interlog streaming on there and watched him.
After a couple of times, I decided to go watch him on Twitch instead.

Caught half a hour of Chipmonkslots last night, but he only usually streams at UK nightime 2 or 3 times a week on 60p or so bets, he seems a decent bloke even though he is a Man United fan

 

[Borgie]

Yeah I read about your issue with Powerspins was quite nervous about my cashout when I read that and was very thankful when I got paid. Agree their CS totally sucks in terms of response or lack thereof.

I haven't watched too many of the older streams for Nick as they are very long but I didn't see anything regarding donations in his last couple of streams so maybe he has stopped that who knows. Rocknrolla (Paul) did a 24 hour charity stream and that was the only time he took donations and I think he raised about 20K for a Huntington's disease. I agree many streamers are dishonest and as soon as I figure that out about a particular streamer (may take a few minutes or hours) I stop watching but I think Nick, Colin and Paul are honest and so is the Bandit. Totally my personal opinion feel free to disagree

Nick takes donations - he doesnt have a sub button as Twitch casino streamers are not allowed but he takes donations all the time. Nick is honest he is a genuine streamer using real money but he definitely take donation s

 

[Dinahnana]

Sorry, if it is the same one then I didnt catch that bit as I only popped on for a few minutes then left.
If you like watching the Youtube videos of the ones which just show the bonus rounds, try jimbocasino, if you havent seen him.

I only just used to watch the Youtube videos but found Interlog streaming on there and watched him.
After a couple of times, I decided to go watch him on Twitch instead.

Caught half a hour of Chipmonkslots last night, but he only usually streams at UK nightime 2 or 3 times a week on 60p or so bets, he seems a decent bloke even though he is a Man United fan

Thanks for the tip Jimbo is great very enjoyable and mellow. And my Dad is a Man U fan so nothing wrong with that

 

[badazzbearq]

I would be weary of that badazz person. I was watching a stream months ago and he was banning people for the smallest things and when people questioned him he would ban them too and tell everyone he is the best and most respected person on twitch and if they dont like it to leave. Then he started posting private messages between him and others trying to publicly shame them when they werent really doing anything but he tried to garner a hate mob and bully them because they dared to question him.

I know from twitch he comes across as liked or something and seems nice in his streams but after i saw that stream and what happened I was incredibly disgusted. It was actually part of the reason I left twitch. Just be careful with him is all.

Sorry if it sounds gossipy but I felt I needed to share because of how bad it was

Hi lockinlove, thank you for taking the time to add me into your post. Ill just clarify a few things so people aren't miss-interpreting things and make their own judgements.

#1 Yes i have said i am well respected in the casino section. The contributions i bring to the community is very high. Whether it be donating to other streamers, assisting in chat/moderating, assisting with new streamers setups. alot can vouch for this should anyone query it.

#2 I ban people when its justified and give sufficient warnings before doing so unless it needs to be actioned immediately (malicious link etc) to protect the integrity and life span of the streamer so no bans are issued through violations of the TOS.

#3 What you are highly likely talking about is the day when you and others came to my stream and started making false allegations, when asked to stop it was continued. So to diffuse this i took the appropriate action. Needless to say that when people get banned in channels (even if its not by me) the culprits then make new accounts to come back and repeat offend. Thats when the ban is justified. I do give people the benefit of the doubt in 100% of circumstances if they then whisper me to either apologize or to rephrase what they are saying to have more clarity in their opinion. We dont need rumor starters do we!

 

[lockinlove]

Hi lockinlove, thank you for taking the time to add me into your post. Ill just clarify a few things so people aren't miss-interpreting things and make their own judgements.

#1 Yes i have said i am well respected in the casino section. The contributions i bring to the community is very high. Whether it be donating to other streamers, assisting in chat/moderating, assisting with new streamers setups. alot can vouch for this should anyone query it.

#2 I ban people when its justified and give sufficient warnings before doing so unless it needs to be actioned immediately (malicious link etc) to protect the integrity and life span of the streamer so no bans are issued through violations of the TOS.

#3 What you are highly likely talking about is the day when you and others came to my stream and started making false allegations, when asked to stop it was continued. So to diffuse this i took the appropriate action. Needless to say that when people get banned in channels (even if its not by me) the culprits then make new accounts to come back and repeat offend. Thats when the ban is justified. I do give people the benefit of the doubt in 100% of circumstances if they then whisper me to either apologize or to rephrase what they are saying to have more clarity in their opinion. We dont need rumor starters do we!

Hi there.

First let me start by apologizing for speaking behind your back knowing you arent a member here. I am glad one of your supporters linked you to my comments so you can have the chance to defend yourself.

I wont say much because portal wars are against the rules here nor do I want to engage in something like this anyways.

What I saw from you that day will not change my opinion. I know what I saw as it went on for some time.

Im not sure what you are referring too but I have never been in your channel nor have I ever spoken to you I dont think (could be possible and I just forget). I actually havent spoke to anyone really as Im more of a lurker. Ive spoken to slotplayer a few times on his channel. My Id is the same there as it is here.

I personally dont appreciate you assuming I did something wrong or attacked you and are accusing me of lying about something just because I have a negative opinion of you. Its actually quite unbecoming. If I did say something, I feel quite confident in what my comments would be and well deserved.

With that said, Thanks for coming to defend yourself.

 

[Sonict]

The issues I see in in terms of the original poster in this thread and in most things I see on Twitch since I am a regular in some of the gambling channels is that you shouldn't judge a stream based on the one day or so that you are there. You need to give it multiple days because if it was any other day when you went in his channel... You wouldn't have had that opinion of him at all.

People do this sort of thing on slot machines all of the time. Some people hate Leprechaun Hills (Quickspin) since when they first tried it... It killed them. My experience was totally different. I hit like 100x plus or so not long after I began thus my opinion is completely different.

Streamers are the same... You need to watch them many times in order to get the feel on how they do things. Letsgiveitaspin and all are the same way. Basically... You ( Original Poster of the thread or others ) joined the stream at the worse time and normally, it doesn't even come close to that.

 

[badazzbearq]

@lockinlove

Fatso is first class. Plays at a number of casinos, very friendly and easy going and bets normal amounts. He also has a very good way of taking slot requests. My only caveat is that he can be misogynistic with his cursing at times and I know you don't like that kind of talk at all. Just accept he's insulting the slot machine and not a woman.

Badazzbear is a friend of omgcezwho; I don't think he's as bad as he's being made out to be.

Cheers BrianGhattas. Dont Know if you're on twitch or not so i cannot thankyou on stream. I suppose we cannot please everyone and everyone will have their own opinion. The loyal followers and viewers are an integral part of streaming so if people do take things out of context and do get banned for "justified" reasons which i can say the reasons are as i have a record in my whispers about what this attack is all about.

 

[BrianGhattas]

Cheers BrianGhattas. Dont Know if you're on twitch or not so i cannot thankyou on stream. I suppose we cannot please everyone and everyone will have their own opinion. The loyal followers and viewers are an integral part of streaming so if people do take things out of context and do get banned for "justified" reasons which i can say the reasons are as i have a record in my whispers about what this attack is all about.

Thanks. I just watch streams. I go by the name of Bluesy_T so you've seen me post on Cesar's sessions.

 

[lockinlove]

Cheers BrianGhattas. Dont Know if you're on twitch or not so i cannot thankyou on stream. I suppose we cannot please everyone and everyone will have their own opinion. The loyal followers and viewers are an integral part of streaming so if people do take things out of context and do get banned for "justified" reasons which i can say the reasons are as i have a record in my whispers about what this attack is all about.

Hi again.

Please do not suggest this is an attack. Its an opinion of what I saw in a channel. And I logged into my twitch account and see we did have a conversation. Lets just say it was far from justified and re-reading your comments assures me more than ever my claims are justified.

We cannot continue this conversation as its turning into a portal war. Feel free to message me to discuss this situation further. Or you can continue to discuss it here and risk us pissing people off

 

[badazzbearq]

Hi again.

Please do not suggest this is an attack. Its an opinion of what I saw in a channel. And I logged into my twitch account and see we did have a conversation. Lets just say it was far from justified and re-reading your comments assures me more than ever my claims are justified.

We cannot continue this conversation as its turning into a portal war. Feel free to message me to discuss this situation further. Or you can continue to discuss it here and risk us pissing people off

Sorry but I will not be private messaging you. You have started something across multiple sites and I won't be caught up in it any further. I have detailed everything in my first response and I will not continue to respond now. I do not like confrontation of any sort that is demeaning and disruptive. People are free to make their judgments/opinions. To my recollection this incident you mention was months ago and involved you and someone else arguing so it is quite obvious to me that the post is in spite of actions taken to defuse a situation that was getting out of hand (justified) . I have also been a member of CM for quite a while. Have a great day/night lovinlock but I will not comment further

 

[lockinlove]

Sorry but I will not be private messaging you. You have started something across multiple sites and I won't be caught up in it any further. I have detailed everything in my first response and I will not continue to respond now. I do not like confrontation of any sort that is demeaning and disruptive. People are free to make their judgments/opinions. To my recollection this incident you mention was months ago and involved you and someone else arguing so it is quite obvious to me that the post is in spite of actions taken to defuse a situation that was getting out of hand (justified) . I have also been a member of CM for quite a while. Have a great day/night lovinlock but I will not comment further

Well I wasnt asking you to private message me I was just suggesting if you have anything further to say to me to say it in private and not here as to rouse a bunch of drama.

Your recollection is wrong. I saw you banning a bunch of people for really no reason and posting private message conversations between you and others in someones channel trying to bully and shame them. I asked you to stop as you were ruining the experience for myself and others. This was my part in it. I was not arguing or talking to anyone else but you.

To be fair, from what I knew of seeing you around you never acted this way before so I was quite surprised to see your behaviour. I even sent the streamer a message asking if someone hacked your account or you were drunk posting.

And I started something across multiple sites? I dont post on any other sites so please stop making things up. Before you leave can you please post proof of me bringing this up elsewhere?

I suppose you were just having a bad day.



Have a nice day and again thanks for coming here to post and I wish you luck with your channel

 

[Sonict]

I have yet to be in a streamer channel where people are banned For no reason. I'd take a guess and the reason people could be banned is because... said Streamer / moderator has told them to stop talking about said subject since it is degrading the chat experience, but people continued it in the channel even after being told to not do it and to use the whisper function to each other. If after said user is banned from chat and then starts talking shit using the private Message function to said streamer... You can be sure of two things:

1) Streamer puts the user on "ignore"
2) Streamer wants to also show people what you shouldn't be doing since if someone told you to stop and then you continue and also insult said streamer... It will come back to bite you!

There are also lots of trolls out there who join streams just to stir up trouble and when they get banned, they make a new account and come back to continue the same shit. I have seen it on many streams so I know from experience how it works. This is most likely what people have seen.

In the end. Opinions won't change, but if you can understand why people do things. Then statements like For no reason aren't so far out in left field.

 

[Playford7]

I have yet to be in a streamer channel where people are banned For no reason. I'd take a guess and the reason people could be banned is because... said Streamer / moderator has told them to stop talking about said subject since it is degrading the chat experience, but people continued it in the channel even after being told to not do it and to use the whisper function to each other. If after said user is banned from chat and then starts talking shit using the private Message function to said streamer... You can be sure of two things:

1) Streamer puts the user on "ignore"
2) Streamer wants to also show people what you shouldn't be doing since if someone told you to stop and then you continue and also insult said streamer... It will come back to bite you!

There are also lots of trolls out there who join streams just to stir up trouble and when they get banned, they make a new account and come back to continue the same shit. I have seen it on many streams so I know from experience how it works. This is most likely what people have seen.

In the end. Opinions won't change, but if you can understand why people do things. Then statements like For no reason aren't so far out in left field.

I've seen streams, where a question is asked that the streamer can't or won't answer. Thus resulting in the person asking the question banned many many times.
That's my whole argument, there on a public medium, you can't just pick and choose whom you wish to have dialogue with no matter how difficult (true) the question some ask may be.
Furthermore, the usual response from a streamer who doesn't like what they are asked always refers to the person as a 'troll'
Clearly a case of oh shit!.. I can't answer that it'll affect my business....

 

[Sonict]

If all streamers did was answer chat every time someone asked them... (More of an issue in large streams with 1K+ viewers ) The stream wouldn't get anywhere. So yes... We indeed can pick and choose which person we want to talk about in terms of what they are asking no matter how right they might be.

As for this:

Furthermore, the usual response from a streamer who doesn't like what they are asked always refers to the person as a 'troll'
Clearly a case of oh shit!.. I can't answer that it'll affect my business....

Maybe some streamers do this, but most of them will not do that. There are actual trolls out there. I at least do not treat people that I dislike as a troll unless I have actual reason to back up that said user is in fact doing it in the first place.

In the end. It is the streamers channel and as long as said streamer isn't breaking any Terms of Service... They can do whatever they like. That said, there are many other streamers out there that you may want to watch instead and it looks like you have done this already.

 

[Playford7]

If all streamers did was answer chat every time someone asked them... (More of an issue in large streams with 1K+ viewers ) The stream wouldn't get anywhere. So yes... We indeed can pick and choose which person we want to talk about in terms of what they are asking no matter how right they might be.

As for this:



Maybe some streamers do this, but most of them will not do that. There are actual trolls out there. I at least do not treat people that I dislike as a troll unless I have actual reason to back up that said user is in fact doing it in the first place.

In the end. It is the streamers channel and as long as said streamer isn't breaking any Terms of Service... They can do whatever they like. That said, there are many other streamers out there that you may want to watch instead and it looks like you have done this already.

Really?..
Well I watched slotspinners stream for a little bit this evening, and may I say he seems a great genuine guy.
But nickslots appears on his chat (casinogrounds affiliate) there all linked and defend each other.
Nick was asked a few questions via chat, he got defensive, answered what was asked in a terrible way then all of a sudden left...why?.. was it to much being asked a question?..
again the integrity of a 'streamer' is called into question.

 

[Playford7]

Well I wasnt asking you to private message me I was just suggesting if you have anything further to say to me to say it in private and not here as to rouse a bunch of drama.

Your recollection is wrong. I saw you banning a bunch of people for really no reason and posting private message conversations between you and others in someones channel trying to bully and shame them. I asked you to stop as you were ruining the experience for myself and others. This was my part in it. I was not arguing or talking to anyone else but you.

To be fair, from what I knew of seeing you around you never acted this way before so I was quite surprised to see your behaviour. I even sent the streamer a message asking if someone hacked your account or you were drunk posting.

And I started something across multiple sites? I dont post on any other sites so please stop making things up. Before you leave can you please post proof of me bringing this up elsewhere?

I suppose you were just having a bad day.



Have a nice day and again thanks for coming here to post and I wish you luck with your channel

Another casinogrounds member.
Lockinlove, your wasting your time with these guys. There all the same, you can't have a opinion or they call you a troll.
Same as the usual stooges who jump to the defence of any streamer linked to them, it's easy to see looking at the post history.
This is me officially out on any streamer subject as I don't fancy a ban again. I like most on here and have a good laugh and banter, get some good advice.
Seems anytime a streamer is mentioned it turns to this...maybe I should be quiet and not say my peace like a lot do, but it's not who iam.

 

[Sonict]

Really?..
Well I watched slotspinners stream for a little bit this evening, and may I say he seems a great genuine guy.
But nickslots appears on his chat (casinogrounds affiliate) there all linked and defend each other.
Nick was asked a few questions via chat, he got defensive, answered what was asked in a terrible way then all of a sudden left...why?.. was it to much being asked a question?..
again the integrity of a 'streamer' is called into question.

Yep. There are so many things out there that could make a viewer / streamer not want to respond, be rude, etc... when questions are asked. They may have also had other things to do... Who knows!

This thread in the end has been interesting.

For an outlook on what a small streamer has said about this thread. (I watch him too from time to time) Give this link a read: Old / Expired Link

I found it interesting.

EDIT: Just because said streamer is a Casino Grounds member doesn't mean they are all assholes or something. Blanket statements like this is not cool. :/

 

[Playford7]

Yep. There are so many things out there that could make a viewer / streamer not want to respond, be rude, etc... when questions are asked. They may have also had other things to do... Who knows!

This thread in the end has been interesting.

For an outlook on what a small streamer has said about this thread. (I watch him too from time to time) Give this link a read: Old / Expired Link

I found it interesting.

If they where honest I'd have no issue. But they are not!... Not all may I add, but most. I'm done with this, and I've seen the property some of these streamers live in, so lobster and cavier are way above there pay grade as mentioned in the link you provided. I'm sorry I've watched, heard and listened to enough of streaming bullshit. This is a casino forum, and not place to plug your favourite shill depending on what casino there streaming at today for sign ups...
Not affiliates, by no way do I mean that, only certain casino streamers and there followings....
Again done with this, said many times any mention of a streamer turns the place toxic.

 

[cj1990]

I have watched streams where streamers got offensive and started banning people mainly over questions around whether or not they were making affiliate commission on peoples gambling addictions. (not my words)

Personally to me it seems like these streamers who pair themselves with various casinos and casino groups, rarely are genuine. They seem only focus on selling the idea of wealth and the dream of hitting big

Sure if its your channel you can do what you want, however for Gambling Streams there should be certain ubiquitous rules (between sponsoring casinos and steamers) especially if you are making money from the stream.


On the same token, we are (supposedly) are all adults watching these streams, however the urge to gamble can be strong and and promoting responsible gambling can only go so far.

I watched Kim's Stream, IMO the conduct on both Kim and Tim was appalling, it was pretty clear having Jorgen stop in threw Kim into a tilt and the Drinking and Agitation didn't go well together.

There was one part where there was a new Sub and Tim said something like he didn't care , to me that shows little regard for Kim's "Loyal Followers", at that moment it struck me as being all about the money....

 

[AmandaBailey]

I'm all ears!.. sex and slots!... where do I find such a repulsive stream!...

What do you need most of all? What do you meam a repulsive stream? Maybe, if you tell me what does it mean i can help you))
And also want to ask you a question, if you would ever been asked, What does it mean

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for you and how they influence on people?