New Slot Announcement Kingmaker Megaways from Big Time Gaming

[jjqj1982]

i deposited 10e to have a look into this and spin no more than 60spins and bigger win was 1.6 x

 

[ChopleyIOM]

i deposited 10e to have a look into this and spin no more than 60spins and bigger win was 1.6 x

My stats show that it can take as much as 350x stake to trigger a single feature, (and I'm sure it'll manage worse than that), and once you start getting the multipliers up you want to make sure you can see it out to that feature, which you're effectively 'buying' as you're giving away RTP in the base game to get the multipliers up.

I would seriously recommend folks give this game a good kicking about in demo play mode before committing any real funds.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

And for those who haven't seen the video, here are the stats.

 

[SpinUk]

I need to go through all the features (I Bandicamed every single feature) and put the stats together, combine them with the stats from Casumo, and from there the video will come together.

There's a pretty evil combination of mechanics going on with Kingmaker IMO, and surprise surprise they don't pan out well for the player.

Id be really interested in how much of the rtp is allocated to the bonus on these megaway games - Bonanza included. As the egg timer effect on the balance seems to mean even with a big win you are still way behind the curve. Basically they appear lossy as fuck, even with a deceptively high overall rtp.

Compare this against a high variance game like reacctoonz, where the biggest multiple win is relatively easy to achieve and you will have something approaching your balance back but with a “reasonable” claw back/loss to the casino.

The megaways games just do not play like this.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Id be really interested in how much of the rtp is allocated to the bonus on these megaway games - Bonanza included. As the egg timer effect on the balance seems to mean even with a big win you are still way behind the curve. Basically they appear lossy as fuck, even with a deceptively high overall rtp.

Compare this against a high variance game like reacctoonz, where the biggest multiple win is relatively easy to achieve and you will have something approaching your balance back but with a “reasonable” claw back/loss to the casino.

The megaways games just do not play like this.

If you track your play properly its actually very easy to see your base vs feature RTP Just track total wagers and total won via features and you can work out the rest from there. There is often more RTP in the base than you realize on some games.

As for reactoonz, that can absolutely destroy a balance and got thousands of spins without a hit big enough to recover your balance so if your doing that your doing well LOL clearly the game just hates me as i never had the big wins

 

[SpinUk]

If you track your play properly its actually very easy to see your base vs feature RTP Just track total wagers and total won via features and you can work out the rest from there. There is often more RTP in the base than you realize on some games.

As for reactoonz, that can absolutely destroy a balance and got thousands of spins without a hit big enough to recover your balance so if your doing that your doing well LOL clearly the game just hates me as i never had the big wins

The big wins vs losses on that game are remarkably fair. You will not have as in chopleys case over a 1000x loss without a big rtp bounce. Not from hearsay, multiple times over multiple casinos.

 

[Reelsoffun]

The big wins vs losses on that game are remarkably fair. You will not have as in chopleys case over a 1000x loss without a big rtp bounce. Not from hearsay, multiple times over multiple casinos.

Due to chops rounding the features this is only rough but here is the breakdown for the above session.....

11,466 games at 40p = £4586.40 Wagered
£600 loss = total won = £3986.40 ( 1556.40 + 2430 )

Won from features £1556.40 ( 33.94% )
Won from Base £2430 ( 52.98% )


But here we go again people comparing games to each other that are miles apart in terms of profile.

This game is basically one of the progressive feature type which any player can see as soon as they load it like many yggdrasil games for example and in those games your always sacrificing RTP for a later better feature the mechanic isnt new and is probably on par with holy diver if you want to compare it to something.

While people are still playing these "build up to feature mechanic games" providers are going to keep doing them, however like probably a lot of people I close them as soon as i see that's its that type of game.

By now any seasoned slot player will know what they are getting into playing a game like this. Just my views of course.

 

[SpinUk]

It was more a case of the vast amount of churn that happens in the megaways games, taking the rtp with it, without the bonuses along the way to compensate. If thats what you want from a game, i.e stretching yourself to a potential 5000x stake loss and beyond in the hope of an rtp return in the low 90s then yes, you are right - this is exactly the type of game to play.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Not only will there be RTP saved for the feature but also once you get into bigger multipliers your basegame RTP will go up.

Let's say your multipliers are x5 x6 x9 x7 for the gems, if you have a winning spin with any of those your wins will be higher than on spin 1 of your session with a gem win.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Not only will there be RTP saved for the feature but also once you get into bigger multipliers your basegame RTP will go up.

Let's say your multipliers are x5 x6 x9 x7 for the gems, if you have a winning spin with any of those your wins will be higher than on spin 1 of your session with a gem win.

Believe me, that really doesn't work out to anything meaningful in practice, and I speak from the bitter experience of losing 1500x stake in real money play!

There just aren't enough 5OAKs on the gems in the basegame for the multipliers to make themselves felt there. Apparently the game gets EV+ on the basegame when you get up to around a 30x multiplier, but as you can see from my stats, I didn't get to that multiplier once.

 

[SpinUk]

I've got all the stats for my £600/40p spin buttfucking on this game and go through them in some detail in the video.

Should be finished off and uploaded for viewing this evening hopefully.

Im putting a ton through this tonight on minimum bet just for shits and giggles. Ill report back my findings too, but not expecting much judging from the feedback so far.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Believe me, that really doesn't work out to anything meaningful in practice, and I speak from the bitter experience of losing 1500x stake in real money play!

There just aren't enough 5OAKs on the gems in the basegame for the multipliers to make themselves felt there. Apparently the game gets EV+ on the basegame when you get up to around a 30x multiplier, but as you can see from my stats, I didn't get to that multiplier once.

I think I said earlier in this thread I watched Supersmask stream a Kingmaker session and he was very lucky to hit alot in the basegame and when the bonus eventually triggered to get 200x stake too. He ran away with a decent chunk of cash.

As always, you have to be lucky and it's always a matter of that 1 spin.

 

[Kroffe]

Bandits latest video popped up for me on youtube.
Gave it a look to see if he was gonna play kingmaker, and he did, both on £3 and £20 stake.

@ChopleyIOM i think i know where your money went.

 

[SteveBr]

Wow, just watched it...
@ChopleyIOM might want to give that one a miss

 

[Kroffe]

Hmm, just noticed the spoiler-text i added is near invisible.
Atleast on my screen. Maybe my settings are weird or something.

 

[SteveBr]

I can’t see it either on my phone, I had to quote it just now so I could read it...

 

[SteveBr]

Edit
Ah I could see it when I clicked on it

 

[Kroffe]

Edit
Ah I could see it when I clicked on it

Yeah, thats the "spoiler" thingy, but i can barely see theres anything to click on.
If i did not know it was there, i would probably not notice.

 

[irish-ranger]

suprise suprise another bgt cash cow.

this ones as usual worse than the last release.

No way I just watched the Bandit head over to casumo to play this game started of on £3 spins with a balance of £500 and with in an hr he was spinning £20 cashing out £15k (the horror)

 

[AnaxDigital]

This slot is releasing on all casinos tomorrow? Or is it tonight at midnight?

 

[sufferinsilence]

Most will add it in the morning, I wouldn't stay awake for it

 

[AnaxDigital]

oh i was looking forward to it

 

[Big Time Gaming]

This slot is releasing on all casinos tomorrow? Or is it tonight at midnight?

It will be switched on Wednesday, some casinos may be later than others.
Which Casino do you play at?

 

[Kroffe]

See, i told you guys that the Btg-rep was real!

 

[AnaxDigital]

It will be switched on Wednesday, some casinos may be later than others.
Which Casino do you play at?

It will be switched on Wednesday, some casinos may be later than others.
Which Casino do you play at?

I play on PlayOjo and FrankFred at this moment