Baptism by Fire - success Karjala Kasino

[luckysox]

Would be nice if casino rep could make some clarifications there because thats such a horrible promo. If it was limited to like 10-20 eur deposit, fine. I still wouldnt say its a nice offer because of max cashout of 500 but as it is now its a very, very ... well, crappy offer to put it bluntly.

Reminds me of those casinos that let you deposit 3k at a go, but have max cashout of 2,5k a week.

Having an offer where you are allowed to deposit 800, get 200 bonus AND have 10,000 wagering attached to it... with max cashout 2,5x bonus is honestly one of the worst offers ive seen in a while.

edit: i remember the time when 50x bonus was considered too high by most players. Now we have 50x wagering, max cashout and a whole bunch of restricted games and restricted payment methods too. The way it is going soon enough we will be able to play our bonus on Starburst only

Hi theapple!
please see the reply to that original post.

second I remember the casinos who did 20x wagering requirement on their bonuses... I also remember them shutting down...

 

[Casinomeister]

welcome to the forum !

LOL - Luckysox has been a member going on six years. He was the casino rep for Slotsmillion when hey first launched

As for bonuses, let us not forget that they aren't obligatory. What is more important (in my opinion) is how the casino is run and who is running it. As a long time player, I rarely ever play with a bonus. I am never locked into any wagering requirements, capped winnings, and can cash out freely. Just sayin'.

 

[luckysox]

Special offer for Finnish players which to get 10 spins for first 10 days to Fire Joker after verified phone number.

- Max cashout 50€ all over that will be voided (don't like it together with these deposit bonus rules mentioned above).

- In terms and conds of this special offer is not mentioned if there is WR in these spins (only in normal bonus terms but as there are many other rules mentioned like max cashout etc... would love to see WR mentioned as well) in this special offer with other terms which are there), was advised it's 50X which don't make that special offer after validating phone number really catchy with these terms.

- Got to livechat after 4-5 minutes waiting and got answer to my question that normal bonus terms apply to this offer as well.

- Quite extensive list of games you are not allowed to play with bonus money: Blood Suckers, 1429 Uncharted Seas, Dead or Alive, Jackpot 6,000, Jackpot Jester 50000, Devils Delight, Jack Hammer, Safari Madness, Pirate's Gold, Magic Love, Beetle Frenzy, Secrets of the Stones, Secrets of Christmas, The Wish Master, Tower Quest, Alien Robots,Creature from the black lagoon, peek a boo, Super Monopoly Money, Jokerizer, Wicked Circus, Dark Joker Rizes, All Table Games, Live Casino Games, Video Pokeri ja Jackpot-pelit.

- Site itself is not really eye candy and functionalities could be better if you compare it to some top casinos (this one i personally don't really care if they would have some great offers or some other nice things to play there like some races, battles etc.... in new format what others haven't done yet, not sure how flexible site is to build these after little surfing around there)

- Let's get some credit of selection of game providers, at least enough to choose for me.

My two cent is pretty much same, bonus terms are quite bad. Other casinos survive with much better one and are making profit, better bonus terms would bring more players and would make it possible to be more decent with terms and restrictions. I don't really see myself playing there. Not really familiar about what casino need to be passed this but just my opinion with little checking and reading these comments about deposit bonuses.

Hi Slottery!

Thank you for your valuable feedback, we really appreciate that you checked us out. Yes, you are right, we are not "top" casino out there, other casinos have many years of head start on us but we are ambitious and work really hard to bring a good product to the market. This is our starting point. There will be more eye candy, there will be tournaments, and there will be few cool things that I think will make us stand out from the rest. Today we are your solid, standard, classic casino that has just begun its path.

As I have pointed out to the other members that commended earlier, our bonus terms are tight for the entry level players. Serious players usually avoid taking bonuses in the first place. We also work hard on improving our VIP program and we are young, which means that many players receive VIP treatment.

Cheers!

 

[bebo67]

They have "not so good" rule in their daily offers. Every offer needs a deposit but max. withdrawal is just 200 euros. And still needs to wager 50x bonus amount before withdrawal so they should fix this "hoax"-rule before they can be accredited. Just my opinion

I agree. I stay away from casinos that have bonuses like this. The last fiasco has made me wiser.

 

[bebo67]

Hi Slottery!

Thank you for your valuable feedback, we really appreciate that you checked us out. Yes, you are right, we are not "top" casino out there, other casinos have many years of head start on us but we are ambitious and work really hard to bring a good product to the market. This is our starting point. There will be more eye candy, there will be tournaments, and there will be few cool things that I think will make us stand out from the rest. Today we are your solid, standard, classic casino that has just begun its path.

As I have pointed out to the other members that commended earlier, our bonus terms are tight for the entry level players. Serious players usually avoid taking bonuses in the first place. We also work hard on improving our VIP program and we are young, which means that many players receive VIP treatment.

Cheers!

I'm a serious player. VIP player and I still will take bonuses on days that being serious is not an option. And I think I can say that for most players

 

[luckysox]

Okay. But limiting cash outs is just no thanks. It is last term I want from any casino. Because there is always chance you can win big with bonus money. I just can't even imagine if someone hits like 5000x with big bet and there is some term what promises casino it can void player's money. That's why max.cashout rule sucks and it is no no.

maybe so but usually when I start playing at a new casino I check their welcome offer.
yours dosent really show that you guys want or like high rollers .
so I never deposited there and I do not plan to ( unless the terms will be changed someday)

welcome to the forum !


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Thank you! Glad to be back here, I am getting such a warm welcome today

By the way, you are right, we are not showing anything appealing for high rollers today. We have been working on introducing alternative offers which will have different terms. The range goes up to a VIP offer on first deposit of €1000. Your feedback is valuable as it reminds us how much the first impression and information matters. Will bring it up with the team and see how quickly we can realise an update on the front end and increase the range of welcome offers (and terms )
Please PM me your username and I'll add a small thank you for your feedback.

Cheers!

 

[goatwack]

Finland, the happiest place to live according to official statistics!

Not with those terms

 

[luckysox]

+1 for active rep Just wonder wouldn't it be easier to get these higher value players to with bit less strict welcome bonus rules? Many high value players probably pass your site because of of welcome offer with max cashout is there.

Bit off topic but keep wondering why casinos don't offer different tier welcome bonuses like if your first deposit is 200€ over you get smaller match for that with no max cashout or lower wagering or something. Most of highrollers know games and after jumping little bit over site and maybe try few spin in funmode can judge if site is working without needing to "spend time" by wagering ages with small bets and no high volatility games because of max cashout. Numbers are easy to play with what can and can't done without destroying your NGR/GGR, also would recognize high value players in very early stage (maybe something for you to try )

You can't be more right! We have thought of this and we will be introducing a range of welcome offers, in attempt to cater to a wider audience. However, this is easy said that implemented as the technical setup is very challenging when offering alternatives. From my (and ours) experience, most serious players skip taking the welcome offers and they play with real money and so far we have not had any complaints from our visitors that our offers suck. But they are not as sniper as the casinomeister forum members

 

[Slottery]

Hi Luckysox

Yes, i fully understand that it's long way and loads of "learning by doing" when you are still this young, it's always great to have "new kids on the block". I really didn't mean be rude with my posts and happy that you took it as constructive feedback as it was meant to, instead of mugging you down about same things what have been pointed out. I hope you break a leg, Rome wasn't build in a day and online casino even longer as it's never ready.

Everybody can try how easy it is and how many things you have to take an account and what you still have missed even you thought you did everything. Also as in my last post, active rep here is always big plus and you have patience to repeat same answer to same question several times

Hope you stay active and these players who do jump to play with you can really give some valuable ideas and feedback, much better than mine. During the years, many casinos have implemented something based feedback from here from players with huge experience from playing.

You support was also supper nice, some repeating comments here are not really constructive and bit unfair throw anybody under the train in first hour even not liking these bonus terms. Let's be happy about all casinos who have active rep who most probably can be able to help in some instances where something gets complicated as we've seen. Casinos try to be different and nobody is not forced to play any of them

 

[luckysox]

Finland, the happiest place to live according to official statistics!

Not with those terms

Thx goatwack. No soup for you!

 

[theapple]

You can't be more right! We have thought of this and we will be introducing a range of welcome offers, in attempt to cater to a wider audience. However, this is easy said that implemented as the technical setup is very challenging when offering alternatives. From my (and ours) experience, most serious players skip taking the welcome offers and they play with real money and so far we have not had any complaints from our visitors that our offers suck. But they are not as sniper as the casinomeister forum members

Theres the catch though... those serious players already have their casino of choice. Places like VS/RIZK/Trada, younameit. Some of those casinos dont dont really offer that many bonuses either (but still have better terms when they do), but also offer lots of extra stuff you guys dont have (races, cashback, tourneys, etc).

So heres the question, why would those players switch to place with fewer games, promotions and extra kinks? Just because its new?

My point being, you need to offer either
a) more than current top casinos are offering or
b) some stuff they dont have

you offer neither and have welcome bonus thats restrictive to both lowrollers and highrollers, and as i said if you think your random Joe is going to switch from VS to some new casino, just for the sake of it... well yeah, im not so sure about that.

Im not trying to be negative here, i honestly think im just being realistic.

 

[luckysox]

Theres the catch though... those serious players already have their casino of choice. Places like VS/RIZK/Trada, younameit. Some of those casinos dont dont really offer that many bonuses either (but still have better terms when they do), but also offer lots of extra stuff you guys dont have (races, cashback, tourneys, etc).

So heres the question, why would those players switch to place with fewer games, promotions and extra kinks? Just because its new?

My point being, you need to offer either
a) more than current top casinos are offering or
b) some stuff they dont have

you offer neither and have welcome bonus thats restrictive to both lowrollers and highrollers, and as i said if you think your random Joe is going to switch from VS to some new casino, just for the sake of it... well yeah, im not so sure about that.

Im not trying to be negative here, i honestly think im just being realistic.

I am not disputing you and you have realistic reasoning. We are new, we work hard, we will add features, it was not possible to add everything in one go; you have to start somewhere.
I am strong supporter of Casinomeister and what it represents. We might not win the award of the year, but we will do our best.

 

[theapple]

I am not disputing you and you have realistic reasoning. We are new, we work hard, we will add features, it was not possible to add everything in one go; you have to start somewhere.
I am strong supporter of Casinomeister and what it represents. We might not win the award of the year, but we will do our best.

Fair enough Yeah im sure being new in a world (well, more like a sea now) of online casinos is not the easiest of tasks and most casinos i mentioned weren't this good when they were just starting either so there is that. Really wish you guys best of luck, but luck on its own wont do much because you really need, and want to be competitive so all i was saying is how with those terms, new casino or not, you are far from being competitive right now. Thats the main and only reason i wont be playing there right now.

Its not that i dont like you, or your casino, i just feel i can get more bang for my buck elsewhere and thats really all there is :=)

being active here is a good start and your willingness to work on making your place one of better casinos out there is apparent. I really hope things go well for you guys, so good luck with your baptism

 

[bowki]

You support was also supper nice, some repeating comments here are not really constructive and bit unfair throw anybody under the train in first hour even not liking these bonus terms. Let's be happy about all casinos who have active rep who most probably can be able to help in some instances where something gets complicated as we've seen. Casinos try to be different and nobody is not forced to play any of them

I hope Luckysox took my comments as constructive feedback as i didnt want to be rude or not polite. Its just since I broke a stupid bonus rule years ago and lost over 2k € I am really precisly when it comes to read T&Cs. And if I find something I dont like, thats it for me.

I agree that its not all about the bonus and my play is 95% without a bonus these days. But a new casino needs something to get me in, like @theapple said.

 

[mariafbb]

Thank you! Glad to be back here, I am getting such a warm welcome today

By the way, you are right, we are not showing anything appealing for high rollers today. We have been working on introducing alternative offers which will have different terms. The range goes up to a VIP offer on first deposit of €1000. Your feedback is valuable as it reminds us how much the first impression and information matters. Will bring it up with the team and see how quickly we can realise an update on the front end and increase the range of welcome offers (and terms )
Please PM me your username and I'll add a small thank you for your feedback.

Cheers!

yes, getting those new and more attractive offers would be really nice.
also something like tournaments and/or player levels or similar where you can get extra rewards for wagering ect....
I will send you a PM

 

[helenakp]

I have great experience with Karjala,although from the beginning i didn't know much about you as you were one of the newest casinos online.I play at Karjala from the very beginning.You had really nice offers meaning free spins,but after my cashout those offers come to an end

I liked your casino,especially for the fact where your kyc identification went so smooth,wish every casino will follow your example.My withdraw took 3 days but made to my bank account which i am ok with that.

You are the first MT Secure casino where i played with as little as 5 euros with plenty spins added,well that's pretty generous offers where i had plenty fun.And yes you should work on some loyalty ,free spins or something,anyways...welcome aboard Karjala

 

[luckysox]

Okay. But limiting cash outs is just no thanks. It is last term I want from any casino. Because there is always chance you can win big with bonus money. I just can't even imagine if someone hits like 5000x with big bet and there is some term what promises casino it can void player's money. That's why max.cashout rule sucks and it is no no.

Would you rather prefer a 10% cash back?

I could introduce a special offer to CM members. I know that this is a serious community.

 

[luckysox]

Okay. But limiting cash outs is just no thanks. It is last term I want from any casino. Because there is always chance you can win big with bonus money. I just can't even imagine if someone hits like 5000x with big bet and there is some term what promises casino it can void player's money. That's why max.cashout rule sucks and it is no no.

Would you rather prefer a 10% cash back?

I could introduce a special offer to CM members. I know that this is a serious community.

 

[Tirilej]

Would you rather prefer a 10% cash back?

I could introduce a special offer to CM members. I know that this is a serious community.

Did you put some repeat every half hour on that post?

Don't tell me that you speak Finnish too

 

[robby811]

Did you put some repeat every half hour on that post?

Don't tell me that you speak Finnish too

Mutta minä.

 

[Tirilej]

Mutta minä.

I don't speak Finnish so I have no idea what you said there.

luckysox is a language genius so that's why I asked

 

[robby811]

I said i do speak finish via google translate haha

 

[TheAverageGuy]

Sign-up offer of 10fs on fire joker was broken for canadians on sign up.
Made multiple efforts to get it resolved, never happened.

Profile information wouldn't put Canada under country, support said they would do it manually, submitted docs to support location.. and.. eons later..

Checked my wallet to see if CDN currency was an option yet


Well, lets look at what games are available...

While I typically am a huge fan of those under the MT secure trade banner, I think I'm going to pass.

Best of luck in the flames.

 

[anddi32]

I don't speak Finnish so I have no idea what you said there.

I can tell it actually means nothing

 

[luckysox]

Did you put some repeat every half hour on that post?

Don't tell me that you speak Finnish too

Replied via mobile and it looked like it didn’t go through the first time, but in the end it went on twice.

Not much Finnish at the moment. Every time I go there they get me too drunk to remember anything
The one I do remember is Hölkyn Kölkyn!