Is RTP absolute bull?

[cashstash420]

True but it's only 10 20 here or there not 50 50 50 100 fuck it 500

 

[LoopsterAU]

True but it's only 10 20 here or there not 50 50 50 100 fuck it 500

haha yeah know that feeling way too well

plus on top of that me and that same mate call the max bet button the fuck it button and have tilted out using it countless times

 

[cashstash420]

haha yeah know that feeling way too well

plus on top of that me and that same mate call the max bet button the fuck it button and have tilted out using it countless times

Haven't even hit a grand yet absolutely bullshit or a Max win it's a relief taking. Break

 

[dave1888]

Tunnock's Caramel Wafers an 8-pack every fortnight in this house, plus a 6-pack of Tunnock's Tea Cakes.

The dark ones and caramel logs are good too.

 

[dave1888]

Play 100 or so spin on any playngo on 94 or less then play it on 96 or more.. You will soon see there is a significant difference unless you just get spawny. But I'm referring to base game here.

 

[dave1888]

It took me years to win my first grand it can come from nowhere.. what bet size are you doing? Try low bets on high variance like doa ,doa², lil devil, razor returns, danger and so on.

 

[Casinos Hate Winners]

Play 100 or so spin on any playngo on 94 or less then play it on 96 or more.. You will soon see there is a significant difference unless you just get spawny. But I'm referring to base game here.

You won't be able to tell 96% RTP from 94% with 100 spins — a thousand won't be enough either.

 

[BozzGeeBee]

The massive elephant in the room is RTP itself , as far as I can tell it’s completely self regulated - which in itself should raise eyebrows. Who decided that rtp was decided over 1 billion + spins ? It’s completely unrealistic . That obviously never happens . I think all games/slots so go through independent testing at a max 100,000 spins . From that get a RTP around 94-96% . What are the chances ….

 

[lucks_maximus]

It matters.
It matters even more for the casino.

 

[Valhalla]

Play DOA3 on Slots Temple (around 96% rtp I believe), then go play it at one of the many casinos running the 91% rtp version... I know the game is ultra high variance but the difference is staggering.

Same goes for Reactoonz - at Slots Temple (who are the benchmark since they always run the highest rtp) the game is pretty enjoyable. Switch over the (for example) 888 at around 91.5% and: dead spin, dead spin, dead spin...

 

[Casinos Hate Winners]

The massive elephant in the room is RTP itself , as far as I can tell it’s completely self regulated - which in itself should raise eyebrows. Who decided that rtp was decided over 1 billion + spins ? It’s completely unrealistic . That obviously never happens . I think all games/slots so go through independent testing at a max 100,000 spins . From that get a RTP around 94-96% . What are the chances ….

RTP is actually just a set of rules that determine how winning combinations are paid out. Take roulette as a simple example: if a correct number pays 37x, RTP is 100%. European roulette pays 36x, so RTP is 36/37 = 97.3%. If it paid 38x, RTP would be 102.7%.

The tricky part is: if you don't know the rules you're playing by, you need to play for a while to figure them out. And here the question is — how long exactly, and what does it depend on?

If you dig a little deeper, it turns out you need around 400,000 spins to verify RTP with 95% confidence — and that number depends on volatility. In roulette, if a number comes up once every 100 spins instead of 37, you'd need millions of spins. But for even-money bets like red/black, far fewer. The same logic applies to slots.

Take Dead or Alive 3 (volatility std dev ~10 per the official game page): to confirm RTP is 96% and not 92%, you need 386,410 spins.

To verify the precise figure of 96.03%: 960,365 spins for 1% precision, 3,841,459 for 0.1%, and 38,414,588,207 for 0.01%.

Compare that to Starburst (volatility ~3.1, RTP 96.08%): 92,292 spins for 2% precision, 369,165 for 1%, 36,916,420 for 0.1%, and 3,691,641,927 for 0.01% — roughly 10x fewer than DOA3.

Now imagine trying to verify RTP for a slot with standard deviation above 40, like Dead or Alive 2 with the high noon saloon feature, or some NoLimit City titles.

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P.S. The numbers above are calculated using the Central Limit Theorem — feel free to check my math.