I never knew until now

[babs7262]

"so much to make up to my husband, I blame him for not stopping me".

I found out a while ago I had a gambling problem too. But I know that nobody could have told me that I would end up addicted or even that I was addicted. If someone had stopped me I would have resented them and I would never have discovered that I needed to stop on my own. I believe that's why we have a life, to learn the things that don't make sense.


One important thing is to take one day at a time. Don't look at all the damage that you have done over the years and expect to fix it tomorrow, it will make you worse. It's best to look at what problems you have today and what you can do today. Do that every day and your life will slowly but surely get better.

This last paragraph couldnt be truer!! When I was in that rehab, the first thing he asked me was "how long have you been doing this" I said "about 8 yrs" he then said "It took you 8 years to get here, so expect it to take another 8 years to get back" Very true, it wont take one day, one month or even one year. It takes a lifetime. Its hard, very hard. Even though its been 10 yrs for me, I still cant go into certain places without getting the itch.

IMHO (no disrespect to those who said this, honestly) I dont think Diane will be ok just to low roll and uninstall all but one or two casinos. She is way passed that. I feel she needs to uninstall all of them and limit or even stay away from parts of this site. Please dont look at winner screenshots or anything that will trigger you. I say this with care, I think you should PM people from here that your comfortable with and give/ask for emails and not come in here for a bit. I mean that in the most caring way Diane. I enjoy our pm's and feel we can get the same result in emails. Some can cut back but I just think her having even one casino on her desktop could be damaging. Ill pm you my email and others can too who wish to keep helping her

 

[anniemac]

Babs,

Right again. When I was talking about cutting down, I said "if you can't quit cold turkey".

I know exactly how she feels. I, too, have been mad because I didn't have the money to play and I am one of the ones that will play til it's gone.

I wish I could just quit but not quite there yet. But getting closer every day. Like you said, did get this way overnight and won't go away overnight.

All have a good and blessed day.

 

[Luigi810]

3 days and counting, LOL I CANNOT believe it..and yes Babs I cannot even have one casino on my computer, it would be to tempting for me. I actually felt great when I woke up and didn't have to run money to the bank to make sure nothing was going to bounce. For 5 years I played at least 10 hours a day so 3 days is actually long for me, last night was a bad night, I fought not to download a casino but I made it. When I think of playing I get that sick feeling again and then I think of all the people out there for me showing me so much support and I feel terrible, not to mention my husband and how I feel when I think of hurting him again. I just hope hope hope I don't have a brain freeze and start playing again, but I don't think I will, not sure yet, but I really don't think I will..I'll keep you posted...I feel like there is so much pressure off of me, I never had this feeling before. It feel sooo good

Try to be kind to yourself Luigi and forgiving......and yes I know that is the hardest thing of all, is to forgive yourself, but you have to in order to move on. You've taken the first big step and realized that it's a problem, so don't give in to it now, because you will only be setting up a cycle of a high while you are playing and then it will be back to self loathing........so don't do it, please. Uninstall them, unsubscribe from the emails, give yourself something good to feel instead of self hate. Start right NOW!

Hugs......
BB

"so much to make up to my husband, I blame him for not stopping me".

I found out a while ago I had a gambling problem too. But I know that nobody could have told me that I would end up addicted or even that I was addicted. If someone had stopped me I would have resented them and I would never have discovered that I needed to stop on my own. I believe that's why we have a life, to learn the things that don't make sense.


One important thing is to take one day at a time. Don't look at all the damage that you have done over the years and expect to fix it tomorrow, it will make you worse. It's best to look at what problems you have today and what you can do today. Do that every day and your life will slowly but surely get better.

hi diane,
sorry to hear about your troubles, it looks like your on your way to recovery though by admitting you have a problem

i dont really have much to add as the members here already posted what i would have said but one thing you should do is to not regret or waste your time and energy on things that have already happened, i know its hard to do but you must look forward,
i expect everybody has done some dumb things in there lives, but regretting them gets you nowhere,
good luck i hope things get better

This last paragraph couldnt be truer!! When I was in that rehab, the first thing he asked me was "how long have you been doing this" I said "about 8 yrs" he then said "It took you 8 years to get here, so expect it to take another 8 years to get back" Very true, it wont take one day, one month or even one year. It takes a lifetime. Its hard, very hard. Even though its been 10 yrs for me, I still cant go into certain places without getting the itch.

IMHO (no disrespect to those who said this, honestly) I dont think Diane will be ok just to low roll and uninstall all but one or two casinos. She is way passed that. I feel she needs to uninstall all of them and limit or even stay away from parts of this site. Please dont look at winner screenshots or anything that will trigger you. I say this with care, I think you should PM people from here that your comfortable with and give/ask for emails and not come in here for a bit. I mean that in the most caring way Diane. I enjoy our pm's and feel we can get the same result in emails. Some can cut back but I just think her having even one casino on her desktop could be damaging. Ill pm you my email and others can too who wish to keep helping her

Babs,

Right again. When I was talking about cutting down, I said "if you can't quit cold turkey".

I know exactly how she feels. I, too, have been mad because I didn't have the money to play and I am one of the ones that will play til it's gone.

I wish I could just quit but not quite there yet. But getting closer every day. Like you said, did get this way overnight and won't go away overnight.

All have a good and blessed day.

 

[kauphy]

hi

hi i play on-line and have been coming to this site for a long time. the people r great here. i have a story to tell hope it helps. not about myself but about my brother who has been into drugs for almost all his life. 2 and a half years ago. i got a phone call it was from my brother and he told me his wife lifted him after 27 years of bring marryed she 2 was into drugs. she was no winner. he wanted to kill himself so my mom and i went over to help. to make a long story short he has been clean for over 2 years has remarried and is happyer now then he has ever been in his life it was a long walk but he had alot of help along the way and he still has hes days but he takes it one step at a time. the point is he never gave up and he could have caz he had alot of health prombles been in the hospital 15 times and lost alot to his ex but now he has more then he ever had. be happy not hard on urself you still have ur husband and ur health what you lost is nothing to what you could have lost. trust in god and he will help you find ur way.

 

[Luigi810]

I am really glad to hear a happy ending for your brother, it's give all of us here who have additions , hope, thanks for taking the time to write me, it means a lot. Diane

hi i play on-line and have been coming to this site for a long time. the people r great here. i have a story to tell hope it helps. not about myself but about my brother who has been into drugs for almost all his life. 2 and a half years ago. i got a phone call it was from my brother and he told me his wife lifted him after 27 years of bring marryed she 2 was into drugs. she was no winner. he wanted to kill himself so my mom and i went over to help. to make a long story short he has been clean for over 2 years has remarried and is happyer now then he has ever been in his life it was a long walk but he had alot of help along the way and he still has hes days but he takes it one step at a time. the point is he never gave up and he could have caz he had alot of health prombles been in the hospital 15 times and lost alot to his ex but now he has more then he ever had. be happy not hard on urself you still have ur husband and ur health what you lost is nothing to what you could have lost. trust in god and he will help you find ur way.

 

[babs7262]

Annie Mac

You gave an inspiration. Last night I was playing and was very tired. I too play until its gone (unless i hit something big). Well, after reading that I decided to close the casino with $8 left for this morning. I didnt have a cashout and only got it up to about $40 BUT...it lasted awhile, I was well rested and didnt have to make a deposit this morning.

I think we can all learn a lesson from this thread.

Congratulations on your 3rd day Diane!

 

[Luigi810]

Annie Mac

You gave an inspiration. Last night I was playing and was very tired. I too play until its gone (unless i hit something big). Well, after reading that I decided to close the casino with $8 left for this morning. I didnt have a cashout and only got it up to about $40 BUT...it lasted awhile, I was well rested and didnt have to make a deposit this morning.

I think we can all learn a lesson from this thread.

Congratulations on your 3rd day Diane![/QUOTE

I'm so glad for you AnnieMac, I now know that feeling of not having to rush to make a deposit, even though it's just one day, it's a great feeling plus waking up and still having money left to play, keep it up.
And thanks so much for the Congrats. it feels great

 

[anniemac]

Lord, ya'll, don't use me for inspiration.

I am probably the worst person for that. But I did send one more down the road today so I am now down to two.

Luigi810, it does feel good to get up in the morning and actually feel good about yourself. Not be going "Oh crap, now what do I do?"

So here we go, one minute at a time, one hour at a time, one day at a time.

 

[Alexishot69]

please

please tell me if i am way out of order however the minute someone realises that gambling has cost them a few pennies more than they can afford to lose and that theyre happy they dont have to deposit one day then forgive me if i am wrong but isnt it time to close this chapter? I had a close friend who had a gambling addiction and i hope casinomeister will forgive me for posting this link but www.gamcare.co.uk was the place he turned for help and it worked for him ..its so easy to gamble these days infact 24/7 unlike other aaddictions ;like alcohol where theres only so much u can drink or smoking only so many u can smoke but gambling keeps going until you have no funds available and thats rock bottom...if you go t that sitte you will read some terribly sad stories about just how bad it can and will get if u dont stop and i know its easier said than done..i will say onething though maybe its not such a great idea you found this site because to be honest for the most part its about promoting gambling and it might maybe not now but in the future lead you back and i think its a good idea to take temptation away ..please forgive me if you feel this is a bit strong but just my honest opinion and goes for anyone with a problem regarding gambling....alex x

 

[anniemac]

Alexishot,

You are probably right about not coming back to this site. But I think Luigi810 felt like she had made friends here and needed someone to talk to. And this was where she felt comfortable.

I know that's why I come here so often. I can find gambling tips all over the net. I just like the folks here.

 

[1819]

wow. all i can say is wow. to all you folks, who lent support to this girl, you should be commended. i also commend her for turning the corner and attempting to right a wrong. it will not be easy. there are never any quick fixes to these situations. diane i wish you all the best. i also congratulate the others who told stories of trouble. good to see folks not giving up when they are up against it. life is a one shot deal. we get one. wish it were more. mistakes will be made. there is no doubt about that. how we handle those mistakes determines how are lives will be. if you could talk to one person who is dead i guarantee they would take all the problems we have to be alive again. not the way it works though. so to those of us who have problems, some bigger than others but all important, keep pluggin away.

 

[suzecat]

Alexishot,

You are probably right about not coming back to this site. But I think Luigi810 felt like she had made friends here and needed someone to talk to. And this was where she felt comfortable.

I know that's why I come here so often. I can find gambling tips all over the net. I just like the folks here.

This forum was where Diane came at her low point ..........kinda like she knew this was where someone (or many) would have a lantern lit to show her the way out of the cave. Can't say this is the only place she would have found direction, but it was her choice and sure am sure we have all learned from it! Thank you Diane!

 

[Alexishot69]

well

This forum was where Diane came at her low point ..........kinda like she knew this was where someone (or many) would have a lantern lit to show her the way out of the cave. Can't say this is the only place she would have found direction, but it was her choice and sure am sure we have all learned from it! Thank you Diane!

Hey i totally appreciate that it was her choice 100% thats not even close to what i was saying..if i was in and many more were in that predicament the LAST place on earth id want to find comfort is at a gambling associated site...its like being an alcoholic and only place you can get is comfort iss at a pub/bar etc ...sorry to sound harsh but to get your life back on track you must stay away from all sites assoc. with gambling...and anyone who disagrees with this certainly does not know the true implications or consequences of what gambling can do to a person....

 

[mojo]

afford to lose and that theyre happy they dont have to deposit one day then forgive me if i am wrong but isnt it time to close this chapter? I had a close friend who had a gambling addiction and i hope casinomeister will forgive me for posting this link but www.gamcare.co.uk was the place he turned for help and it worked for him

I agree Game Care is a great service. It works for some. It wouldn't work for me, I would just use another computer in the house or if it was that bad, re-installing windows doesn't take tooo long. Heck, computers are pretty cheap these days. Point is, if you want to gamble, you will.

I can only speak for myself, what worked for me was cancelling my funding methods. Although there is an inconvience of not having an atm debit card on my checking account, it has sure fired worked for me. I can't play if I can't fund.

It's hard to say what will work for each individual. You are probably right, in AA they tell people to stay away from other alcoholics in the beginning. Perhaps problem gamblers should stay away from other gamblers. I'm no expert. For me other gamblers who told me that it was ok to forgive myself lifted my spirits more than i could ever say.

I think by Dianes posts she is on the right track in finding what is right for her. IMHO, the healing comes from caring support, whatever the source.

 

[Alexishot69]

""I think by Dianes posts she is on the right track in finding what is right for her. IMHO, the healing comes from caring support, whatever the source""

One thing i do know is this site or anyother gambling site is NOT THE SOURCE.few days away from glambling feeling good and comes on here feeling strong and all of a sudden "wow" a 200% bonus " ill just ....you know the rest ..www.gamblock.com is also a source more worthwhile diane ...you will never ever get better visiting here or anyother gambling sites i assure you 100%...please please take this as gospel...

 

[mojo]

Since I am not a professional in this field I would not give 100% assurance on anything. Game Care is a good site and Link Removed (Old/Invalid) .

Best Wishes.

 

[anniemac]

Alexis,

While you are correct about staying away from something that is your downfall, sometimes the only place you can turn is a place where people know how you feel. You don't have to hide the fact that you spent the grocery/mortgage etc. money. Can't tell your family so you have to tell someone. The gamblers I know don't pass judgement and they try to help the ones that want to quit.

I would rather someone came here for help than nowhere and ended up doing something really stupid.

Casinomeister offers help to those that want to quit. Bryan has made this offer more than once on the forum. This forum is more than just a promotion for online gambling. While GA and the others are the best places for most, you get help where you can.

 

[Luigi810]

To be honest, I came to this site to complain about 2 casino's, as I started to read the different pages to find out more about the site I came to the GA page, when I started to read about the signs I burst into tears, my husband always said I had a problem but I didn't believe him and would actually get mad when he said it, I wrote about my problem because I was feeling so low and needed to vent, never knowing I would get any responses, If it wasn't for all the support I would be gambling right now, I didn't stop because I ran out of money, of course I could never play like I was, I want to top because of all the lies I told my husband about what I was doing with the money and how much I hurt him, not to mention the sleepless nights from playing, the constant running to the bank to make a deposit, and all the days and nights I spent away from my family and friends, just to play, it was controlling me, just like it still is, I haven't played in 3 days but I am going through some kind of withhdraw, I feel like a part of me is missing, it's hard.. I love this site, this site saved me, I never dreamed in a million years I would here telling people all of my problems, besides my husband no one else knows what I've done. I feel like I got so much off my chest, so much pressure is gone, It was great today when I woke up and didn't have to be at the bank before it even opened. I need everyone here, I didn't have a clue that there were different GA sites out there, I am sticking with my friends here, I need them and hopefully they can depend on me or learn something from my mistakes.
I don't read some of the threads, I hate to hear how people are getting ripped off, it makes me sick, I also don't like to read some because they talk about good casinos, like I first mentioned when I wrote in. I am trying my best to remain casino free, I need you all..

""I think by Dianes posts she is on the right track in finding what is right for her. IMHO, the healing comes from caring support, whatever the source""

One thing i do know is this site or anyother gambling site is NOT THE SOURCE.few days away from glambling feeling good and comes on here feeling strong and all of a sudden "wow" a 200% bonus " ill just ....you know the rest ..www.gamblock.com is also a source more worthwhile diane ...you will never ever get better visiting here or anyother gambling sites i assure you 100%...please please take this as gospel...

I agree Game Care is a great service. It works for some. It wouldn't work for me, I would just use another computer in the house or if it was that bad, re-installing windows doesn't take tooo long. Heck, computers are pretty cheap these days. Point is, if you want to gamble, you will.

I can only speak for myself, what worked for me was cancelling my funding methods. Although there is an inconvience of not having an atm debit card on my checking account, it has sure fired worked for me. I can't play if I can't fund.

It's hard to say what will work for each individual. You are probably right, in AA they tell people to stay away from other alcoholics in the beginning. Perhaps problem gamblers should stay away from other gamblers. I'm no expert. For me other gamblers who told me that it was ok to forgive myself lifted my spirits more than i could ever say.

I think by Dianes posts she is on the right track in finding what is right for her. IMHO, the healing comes from caring support, whatever the source.

Hey i totally appreciate that it was her choice 100% thats not even close to what i was saying..if i was in and many more were in that predicament the LAST place on earth id want to find comfort is at a gambling associated site...its like being an alcoholic and only place you can get is comfort iss at a pub/bar etc ...sorry to sound harsh but to get your life back on track you must stay away from all sites assoc. with gambling...and anyone who disagrees with this certainly does not know the true implications or consequences of what gambling can do to a person....

This forum was where Diane came at her low point ..........kinda like she knew this was where someone (or many) would have a lantern lit to show her the way out of the cave. Can't say this is the only place she would have found direction, but it was her choice and sure am sure we have all learned from it! Thank you Diane!

wow. all i can say is wow. to all you folks, who lent support to this girl, you should be commended. i also commend her for turning the corner and attempting to right a wrong. it will not be easy. there are never any quick fixes to these situations. diane i wish you all the best. i also congratulate the others who told stories of trouble. good to see folks not giving up when they are up against it. life is a one shot deal. we get one. wish it were more. mistakes will be made. there is no doubt about that. how we handle those mistakes determines how are lives will be. if you could talk to one person who is dead i guarantee they would take all the problems we have to be alive again. not the way it works though. so to those of us who have problems, some bigger than others but all important, keep pluggin away.

Alexishot,

You are probably right about not coming back to this site. But I think Luigi810 felt like she had made friends here and needed someone to talk to. And this was where she felt comfortable.

I know that's why I come here so often. I can find gambling tips all over the net. I just like the folks here.

please tell me if i am way out of order however the minute someone realises that gambling has cost them a few pennies more than they can afford to lose and that theyre happy they dont have to deposit one day then forgive me if i am wrong but isnt it time to close this chapter? I had a close friend who had a gambling addiction and i hope casinomeister will forgive me for posting this link but www.gamcare.co.uk was the place he turned for help and it worked for him ..its so easy to gamble these days infact 24/7 unlike other aaddictions ;like alcohol where theres only so much u can drink or smoking only so many u can smoke but gambling keeps going until you have no funds available and thats rock bottom...if you go t that sitte you will read some terribly sad stories about just how bad it can and will get if u dont stop and i know its easier said than done..i will say onething though maybe its not such a great idea you found this site because to be honest for the most part its about promoting gambling and it might maybe not now but in the future lead you back and i think its a good idea to take temptation away ..please forgive me if you feel this is a bit strong but just my honest opinion and goes for anyone with a problem regarding gambling....alex x

 

[Alexishot69]

Alexis,

While you are correct about staying away from something that is your downfall, sometimes the only place you can turn is a place where people know how you feel. You don't have to hide the fact that you spent the grocery/mortgage etc. money. Can't tell your family so you have to tell someone. The gamblers I know don't pass judgement and they try to help the ones that want to quit.

I would rather someone came here for help than nowhere and ended up doing something really stupid.

Casinomeister offers help to those that want to quit. Bryan has made this offer more than once on the forum. This forum is more than just a promotion for online gambling. While GA and the others are the best places for most, you get help where you can.

Gee i really dont want to get into an argument here but if anyone seriosuly believes that coming to a site that predominatly promottes gambling looking for help to quit gambling then sorry but that goes against every single piece of professional advice..i seriously cannot believe anyone would advocate coming here to chat and look for help in quitting gambling NOT that i dislike the site far from it i think its cool but because theres too many possibilities to continue gambling..i wouldnt if i were an alcoholic go to a bar cos i had friends there would you?? geee i cant believe what im reading here....is there noone thinking along the same lines as me at all???

 

[mojo]

Gee i really dont want to get into an argument here but if anyone seriosuly believes that coming to a site that predominatly promottes gambling looking for help to quit gambling then sorry but that goes against every single piece of professional advice..i seriously cannot believe anyone would advocate coming here to chat and look for help in quitting gambling NOT that i dislike the site far from it i think its cool but because theres too many possibilities to continue gambling..i wouldnt if i were an alcoholic go to a bar cos i had friends there would you?? geee i cant believe what im reading here....is there noone thinking along the same lines as me at all???

No offense Alexishot and I'm sure you are coming from a good place but your advice wouldn't have worked for me when I was fighting this. I tried to explain that. While it's helpful to some what worked for me was support from other gamblers to help me overcome it. I think they saved me and I still get tears of gratitude. As far as alcoholics, I know one who has been a (sober) bartender for years. There is no cut and dry answer and I suggest seeking professional advice. I am not a professional so I will not give it. Just my own personal experience that I hope will help. I think all of the support here has helped tremendously. I would never tell anyone what to do, it's whatever WORKS.

 

[Alexishot69]

OMG

No offense Alexishot and I'm sure you are coming from a good place but your advice wouldn't have worked for me when I was fighting this. I tried to explain that. While it's helpful to some what worked for me was support from other gamblers to help me overcome it. I think they saved me and I still get tears of gratitude. As far as alcoholics, I know one who has been a (sober) bartender for years. There is no cut and dry answer and I suggest seeking professional advice. I am not a professional so I will not give it. Just my own personal experience that I hope will help. I think all of the support here has helped tremendously. I would never tell anyone what to do, it's whatever WORKS.

Ive sat and read this entire post alover again and still am shocked that someone who has a serious gambling adiction would welcome visiting ANY gambling site looking for help EXCEPT if it was gamcare or gamblersannonymous or such site...people who have a serious addiction like diane need proper professional help and that is obvious and part of the recovery from glambling advocates that you refrain from either going to,visiting sites ANYTHING that prmots or makes you think about gambling so if diane continues to visit here theres only gonna be one outcome and any sensible person out there who thinks otherwise im sorry but they are wrong..and the reason i say this is i am a social worker here in the uk and have come across many such people in this predicament ..not that i am saying i am a professional but i do know enough to feel confident in what i am writing...diane gamcare offers chatrooms where u can talk t other people in your situation WITHOUT flashing banners offering deposit bonuses etc etcwhich i assure you will inevitably lead you back to another bad night or more...trsut me i know...

 

[Luigi810]

No one is trying to argue with you, we all have different beliefs, this site has helped me more than I ever imagined and I found it by accident. I know all about the threads and how some promote gambling, I did the same myself just a few days ago, I was telling people where to play and where not to play, but now I try and stay away from those threads and get the support I need. There is no right or wrong here and I think it's great you voice your opinion and yes for some GA meetings is the way to go but I found comfort here for now and if I find it's getting hard for me I will try GA. Thank you for caring..

Gee i really dont want to get into an argument here but if anyone seriosuly believes that coming to a site that predominatly promottes gambling looking for help to quit gambling then sorry but that goes against every single piece of professional advice..i seriously cannot believe anyone would advocate coming here to chat and look for help in quitting gambling NOT that i dislike the site far from it i think its cool but because theres too many possibilities to continue gambling..i wouldnt if i were an alcoholic go to a bar cos i had friends there would you?? geee i cant believe what im reading here....is there noone thinking along the same lines as me at all???

 

[silcnlayc]

coming here to chat and look for help in quitting gambling

This is more than a gambling site. It is a community. You cannot gamble HERE unlike visiting a bar for support where you can actually drink...reformed alcoholics see liquor everywhere and drinking is "promoted" on every street corner bar, tv, billboards...just as gambling is just a small part of this site, the support, news, information etc is also a part of it.

Again I say, nowhere on here can you gamble...Just as you sit with other AA members in any group, for support and encouragement the same goes for here...it is a START..GA is not for everyone...many will not even attempt to go to a GA meeting or admit they have a problem.

Here is a stepping stone to understanding why it is you do what you do to be able to go the next step...GA if needed...there is also a list of suggestions from many of us who got ourselves under control and listed how we were able to get some of our lives back and try to pass this on to help others on how to start quitting and overcome the need that is so deep within oneself..

Bottom line is that we know, we feel, we understand the need and can help one through it in anonimity but with compassion and caring....that is what one needs ....group support..and while in here typing, reading and discussing, they are NOT gambling...also, the casinomeister also honors all requests for banning oneself if asked...

 

[Alexishot69]

are u serious?

This is more than a gambling site. It is a community. You cannot gamble HERE unlike visiting a bar for support where you can actually drink...reformed alcoholics see liquor everywhere and drinking is "promoted" on every street corner bar, tv, billboards...just as gambling is just a small part of this site, the support, news, information etc is also a part of it.

Again I say, nowhere on here can you gamble...Just as you sit with other AA members in any group, for support and encouragement the same goes for here...it is a START..GA is not for everyone...many will not even attempt to go to a GA meeting or admit they have a problem.

Here is a stepping stone to understanding why it is you do what you do to be able to go the next step...GA if needed...there is also a list of suggestions from many of us who got ourselves under control and listed how we were able to get some of our lives back and try to pass this on to help others on how to start quitting and overcome the need that is so deep within oneself..

Bottom line is that we know, we feel, we understand the need and can help one through it in anonimity but with compassion and caring....that is what one needs ....group support..and while in here typing, reading and discussing, they are NOT gambling...also, the casinomeister also honors all requests for banning oneself if asked...

Yes its a community BUT its a community where the ONE MAIN subject is gambling and how on earth are you meant to forget about gambling ,...ahh whats the point ;..

 

[mercy]

As an outsider, it is refreshing Alexis to read your posts regarding this serious matter.I hope that Diane listens to your advice, as it is the ONLY solution as any professional would agree.