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Your Input Please I am getting scared by MGS lately...

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by lotusch, Aug 30, 2014.

    Aug 30, 2014
  1. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    Hey guys,

    Sure there is already many topics about MGS slots but this one is about MGS in general.
    As some may know MGS used to be my favourite slots.
    Especially their 243 lines range is just amazing and I love the themes on those slots and I kinda like the high variance,up to a certain point that is.
    We all know those slots are pretty high variance but the last few months it is just absolutely insane how bad these slots are running for me pay wise that is.
    I have seen several threads come by about the same issue.
    Let me make clear I am not wearing a tin foil hat and I truly believe playing a slot is all based on luck.
    Play it at the right time at the right place so to speak! :cool::rolleyes:

    BUT,all and I mean all MGS slots I have played over the last months have been brutally bad to me.
    Bankrolls vanish in the blink of an eye,very few bonus rounds to be seen,just utterly crap basicly.

    As an example I will take Playboy,I played this slot last night and at this particular casino I must have played thousands and thousands of spins on this slot and except a 1100x stake on a €0.30 bet (never plat that low unless funds are low) it never ever gave me anything decent and I must be down a couple of thousand on this slot,no issue but one thinks you should get something of this back over time right? :oops:
    So Yesterday I decided to give this slot a good go and it was from spin 1 absolute and utter horror...
    I played 1694 spins and triggered only 3 times the free spins,I mean DAFUUQ? :eek::eek:

    Where once MGS for me was quite solid with free spins on average every 150-200 spins (with exceptions sometimes of course) it now not only devours your bankroll but also only seems to give free spins every 400-600 spins.
    And this is not the first session it was this brutal.

    Again would be ok if it would compensate with some decent 300-500x hits in the free spins but it doesn't.

    Played solely €0.90 spins and won €11.30 - €24.51 - €6.71 all on the running wilds feature.

    No wilds to be seen and the reels are fake anyway because sometimes after 7 or 8 spins I havent seen a wild come by on reel 1 for example while on reel 3 I have seen them like loads of times on the reel strip...How is that possible...

    Anyway,I think it is time for me to leave MGS for a long time.
    Above example is one of many in the last few months.
    Also their new slots have never chucked out a win worthy of posting in the screenshot section.

    Since I hit that nearly 3000x stake last year on untamed wolf pack @ Guts on €0.90 I haven't had anything decent anymore on any casino where I play MGS.

    I really do like their slots but something inside of me tells me they have changed.
    As there is more people finding the same thing for me that is no coincidence.

    I sincerely hope it is just a bad streak but MGS is too streaky for me lately,waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to streaky.

    Actually lately all MGS losses have been paid back by WMS and Netent (yeah even Netent). :rolleyes:

    Yesterday I ended -€500.00 on Playboy but ended +€825.00 playing WMS slots and some Novomatic too.
    So ended up still in a nice positive manner last night. :)

    So I wonder did MGS change their slots,I mean like they are already high variance as they are.
    I accept one can lose 500 quid on Playboy but it has happened now a good few times and it just does not compensate with a decent win.

    That all said,

    /rant over

    And for now I stick with WMS slots as they are for me less streaky,pay more frequent mid range wins and give me much more play time.
    And sure keep playing DOA (Netent),Always loads of game time,just no super mega biggie win yet. :rolleyes:

    Mark.
     
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  2. Aug 30, 2014
  3. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    I agree, Ive personally said it many of times, Ive seen the change in theses games over time, May be threes just lots more players making a difference I do not no but what I do no is that they are not the same,

    Ive stooped playing my favs, ladies night / spring break & thunderstruck, They have became worse than the 243 lines, Not played them in months, I used to play thousands of spins a day for years on them at like 27 - 45p spin, It got out of hand when I could go over 500 spins with out a hit and than free spins give you a few x your stake back,

    Just getting worser and worser, You do not get much for your money now days, It either gone in an instant or you get a decent hit but have bonus in play, Ive just won 4 off 10 free spins of big bang, played starbust at 10p go got up to 22 quid, went on IR and bang, 22 quid not even double my stake back on a win
     
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  4. Aug 30, 2014
  5. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

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    MG slots never paid anything decent to me. That`s the reason I don`t play them anymore.

    Of course, Playboy is very high variance. Last time I lost 150 on 0.30 spins in no time without one FS round.

    I play now RIVAL and found my home;)
     
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  6. Aug 30, 2014
  7. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    I have that with WMS...
    Get so much fun and play time out of those slots,even the higher variance ones... :cool:
     
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  8. Aug 30, 2014
  9. rshkrn

    rshkrn Senior Member

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    what you've said about MG is true in my case with Netent and Playtech.....thousands of spins with low paying features where as hitting decent ones on MG.

    Basically it seems that I am taking from MG and feeding Netent & Playtech :):)

    guess you need a cpl good sessions on MG to get you back on track and as per experience you'll get them when you least expect it ;) ....so hang in there
     
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  10. Aug 30, 2014
  11. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    I agree with that 1, in somebodys hand 1 minute and in next persons the nest, its amzing how quick they can turn low
     
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  12. Aug 30, 2014
  13. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Sorry to be boring and predictable, but it IS because of the slots you are playing.

    I just looked through the last 200 or so wins in the "Wins over x1,000" thread - and 90% of them are either DoA or MG 243-way slots.
    Most of the 243 ways ones are very high variance and long spells of shite have to be expected.
    If you don't want to risk having disappointing session after disappointing session, you need to lower your target & play lower variance games.

    FYI: I lost a load on Jurassic Park last night with several crap bonus features. Then I went on "the old Jurassic Park slot" Dino Might - got the feature 3 times, and the second highest win each time, winning back a big chunk of what I lost on the first game.

    KK
     
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  14. Aug 30, 2014
  15. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    I know KK,that's why I said it is probably just playing them at the right time at the right place...
    When I hit that 3000x bet monster on Untamed Wolf Pack I was on the phone with a friend having the slot on quickspins...
    It came totally unexpected and before I knew it there was 14 out of 15 possible wild on my screen! :D

    Maybe I am expecting too much from MGS as still I have my highest x stake wins on their slots.
    Couple of 1000x + stake hits on IR and TFROL,some good hits on TSII and Avalon II,Wicked Circus,League of Fortunes so I can't say I haven't had my fair share of biggies but last few months they are as dry as Ghandi's flip flops for me. :D;)
     
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  16. Aug 30, 2014
  17. asghan

    asghan Experienced Member PABaccred

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    243 liners are my favourite slots. I had many wins over 300xbet in past few months, including few wins over 1000xbet. Playboy was the nicest to me.
    So if something has changed, then for the better :)

    It is a banal thing to say, but they are very high variance, so long bad streaks simply happen.

    There is one thing, though. I never chase features on them. 150-200 spins and if I don't hit feature, I change slot. This works good for me.
     
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  18. Aug 30, 2014
  19. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    Have they changed? Hard to say but....

    I have noticed that I have become a lot more cautious lately. A couple of months ago, I would routinely play 243 ways slots at 60p a spin and most 9 liners (Centre Court and BDBA being the exceptions - I bet only 9p a spin on those two) at 45p a spin.

    But recent bad runs, in particular on Spring Break and GWG2, as well as far too many bankrolls just vanishing into a sub-40% RTP black hole, have now led to me dropping to 30p on 243 ways and 18p on 9 liners respectively. The only 243 ways slot I play at 60p a spin is my favourite slot, The Dark Knight. Even bad sessions on this slot haven't made me drop to 30p a spin....yet.

    One thing that does bug me though....GWG2 AFTER MG fixed the shootout bonus. Before the fix, I did quite well on it. To the extent that it WAS my favourite slot and my automatic first pick to play. After the fix, my run bad on GWG2 is so severe that I hardly play it at all. But as this forum shows, screenies for GWG2 are still being posted, so it clearly still does pay out. Maybe I am simply reading too much into the fact that my change of fortune on GWG2 directly coincided with the shootout bonus fix. One thing is true though, my confidence in GWG2 is absolutely shot to pieces now.

    I recently made a £150 first deposit with 100% match bonus at Euro Palace. If I had done that two months ago, I would have been playing at 60p a spin for sure. This time, I chose to play 30p....all the way. Consequently, by the time I cleared my £6,000 WR, I was slotted out to the point of exhaustion lol. But I got fantastic playtime, as well as a profit. And even though I went from a starting balance of £300 to just over £700 at one point (my low point was £270 and that was during the first session of my playthrough), I had absolutely no regrets about betting at only 30p a spin, despite never being in any danger and being comfortably in front pretty much the entire way.

    To be honest, I do not see myself going back to 60p a spin on 243 ways slots. Simply for one reason....I want good playtime. Too many times, my bankroll just vanished in under an hour. I just feel so much more comfortable at 30p. And the results are also better, if not "spectacular".
     
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  20. Aug 31, 2014
  21. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    It does it automatically if you are autoplaying and you have to click yourself manual play. If you do manual play this slot then ignore my comment if not that is all you do is play it manual which does suck! I just barely have the patience to keep on clicking! :D
     
  22. Aug 31, 2014
  23. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    I play it on autoplay and also manually dave. I guess it depends on what kind of mood I'm in.

    As for the fix itself, I can't help but feel that the shootout fix really did not need to take place, because the win range is so tight (I think it is between 15x and 40x bet). If anyone here can confirm this to be incorrect, then please feel free to correct me, as I am only going by my somewhat limited experience of the "post-fix" shootout bonus. It used to be between 0.25x bet (why the f**k bother with a "bonus feature" that can pay as little as that?) and 20x bet. So, as far as I am aware, the min win has increased significantly, but the max win has only doubled. But I don't think I am exaggerating when I say that the shootout bonus after the fix occurs at least 5 times less frequently that it did before the fix.

    To be honest, I don't think the shootout bonus should ever have been put in the game in the first place.
     
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  24. Aug 31, 2014
  25. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    There has been some crossed wires I think I thought you meant you were unable to choose in the shootout bonus! I now understand what you meant. I just played the game for a good few hours there to see if I could figure any kind of way to find if it is on a streak and it turns out you can! basically when feature very very poor it comes again almost immediately when you get lots of dead spins you are compensated with lots of 5 of a kind combos etc. As for what you said about the max win available being smaller you could be onto something I tried for real and for fun there not a great deal of difference what I did notice though is huge bets the bonus is very poultry, high roller bets a little more generous but bets of 1.50-2.40 were the best giving bonus prizes as high as £235 :). I quite agree though this bonus game is pointless and just wastes time that could be spent seeking the awesome free spins feature!! Preferably frozen wilds as I never get many magnetic wilds when I'm on that one!
     
  26. Aug 31, 2014
  27. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    nope sadly i couldnt agree more something has been changed as a keen MG player ive seen the ups & downs, slots IM ,tfrol have been way to brutal for even my liking average slots for feature is beyond 400 spins to get back less than ten times bet , this is becoming quite often not just a flash in the pan , depleted 400 yesturday from winnings via netent , went on IM from 60p did around 150 spins got one 10x bet

    played some other slots & came back onto im later , 290 quid over 400 spins bust out bets changed from 60p upto 3 quid nothing at all , & theres the problem hence to why people are getting these vibes (

    for my first time in a long time with a top casino ive just closed the account down , ive played this slot since the start of the year ive pretty much picked the same feature on it 95% of the time ive never seen a 100x bet or more on this feature , my RTP% has been checked its below 80% , i would be better playing a pub slot ) i would dread to think of the spins played in it i have nearly all but one pay symbol left to get in the tfrol & its not the top paying one either . :rolleyes:
     
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  28. Aug 31, 2014
  29. mathsboy1975

    mathsboy1975 Senior Member webmeister

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    Actually during August I have had some very good hits on the 243 liners and had some really decent playtime out of small deposits. I only play TDK, IM, TFOL, Battlestar Galactica, Terminator2, Playboy and Jurassic Park but I have found them all to be pretty generous this month. I am not talking single hits of 1000x stake but quite a lot of wins in the 100-300x stake range which makes for a nice long session off one deposit.

    The kind of play you describe is what generally happens to me whenever I start up NetEnt games to be honest, with the exception of Jack Hammer which is still one of my favourites and in my opinion has the ideal balance to the gameplay
     
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  30. Aug 31, 2014
  31. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    Just been playing dark night, Had 2 bonus rounds in a short time, Not much wins 30p play wins was £6 and £9 than kept playing building up spins, I got as far as 38 spins x2 over 500 spins later and not even a fight, No spins either, Thats not bad luck thats plain con, I will guarantee if the rtps and the whole lot was checked over by experts than the whole complete operation will be shut down,
    Whats the use when theses people not own and run but also has a say in the gambling license and own just about every thing that lets the games continue on the market, Casino operators are not going to moan as we feeding there pockets at same time, Surely if the machines was paying out than you would soon see them disappear from sites,

    I take my hat of in minute but in the mean time there not random there ridged to pay when they want, every time you bet hight the rtp is uped when beting low the machines pay more, But in reality there not paying more as there not paying out the same if your playing big,

    Get 20 people, 10 people each play small and 10 play big, I will bet my life that the small spins will come out well over the odds, wouldnt I just love to have enough cash to get 20 people together and try :) But who will be the first to shoot if wrong :machinegu
     
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  32. Aug 31, 2014
  33. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

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    There are reasons it is called gambling (and not "for sure.") ;)
     
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  34. Sep 1, 2014
  35. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    Well my min betting strategy seems to have paid dividends last night. I generally do not fare well at the end of the month, but this month, I look like I am going to end on a high. :cool:

    Ended my barren run on GWG2 and netted an £80 profit. Two bonus rounds which paid over 100x bet. And three shootout bonuses in a session for the first time since the shootout bonus fix.

    Also had a not too shabby run on Jurassic Park for another £50, including my first 100xbet win in the base game and my first 100xbet win during the Brachiosaurus feature.

    On Leagues of Fortune (a slot where I have historically struggled) I dropped £40 fairly quickly, before going on a run which took me from £40 to £190 in very quick order. And that included my first ever 100x bet win during a free spins round, as well as a first ever win in the base game that was greater than 70x bet.

    Add to that a £75 win on Couch Potato (300x bet) before a big crash. Only to be then rescued with a first ever win on Casino Rewards VIP that was greater than 100x bet (it was just under 300x bet). And it was a base game hit (no multiplier).

    Oh and I should mention one other thing. On the back of this run, I decided to do my Nedplay playthrough by playing IR....at 60p a spin as my confidence was high. Quickly jumped out to a £30 profit, before getting my ass handed to me. £108 to £0. WR of £750 not even close to being completed.

    So when not betting at the minimum, I continue to suck (except for The Dark Knight). Yet when betting at the minimum, I continue to enjoy decent playtime, I can weather the sometimes very lengthy runs of dead spins before making a recovery and then, I can even manage to get lucky enough to make a few modestly profitable cashouts. The more I play, the more convinced I get that min betting is the way to go.

    No doubt in a couple of weeks I'll go back to running like shit for a little while. And then I'll have a different opinion to what I have now. Peaks and troughs and all that.
     
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  36. Sep 1, 2014
  37. thebigs

    thebigs Senior Member

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    I might sound boring but i do seem to play only about 10 different slots and majority are MG 243 ways.Playboy,Immortal and The Finer have kept me going for a good few months now and i have no complaints.90 percent of the time i will play 30cents simply because 1-you get more time and 2-My biggest wins have come of the smaller stake.I sometimes play with higher stakes but generally the money goes quick and seems to hit a bad run except bfor the odd time.
    We all know in the long run we are not going to beat the Casino so why not enjoy and play longer with the smaller stake.
     
  38. Sep 1, 2014
  39. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    I personally do not find that boring, as I'm in the same boat as you. I know my "go to list" is no greater than 15 slots and I reckon most of those are ones that you happen to play too.

    The thing that I love about the MG slots is that they are capable of delivering a hit that can pay out £500 or better (and sometimes it doesn't even require being in a bonus feature, free spins round or having a multiplier to achieve it). And in my humble opinion, a win of £500 is hardly boring. Min betting also keeps us in the game for longer and gives us plenty of extra chances to hit that "worldie". Even if I could afford to bet bigger, I probably wouldn't.
     

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