How Do You Pros Manage Your Balance

[slotsoffun]

I'm sure there's as many answers as there are forum members. But how do people approach managing there bankroll? Do you have a set wager each day/week/month. Do you cash out when you reach specific amounts. Do you have more will power than me basically.


I only usually deposit £100 - £200 a week (depending what i've got left after bills etc) so guess that make me a low roller but there's been just to many times i've been £100 - £500 up and either a reversed a withdrawel and lost all or cashed out at the bookies only to visit another on the way home and leave with empty pockets. Every time I end a session I realise how happy i'd be to make £100 a week. But it always goes back in. Call me an addict, call me GREEDY.

Maybe some tips from how others play would be good, inspirational perhaps!!!

 

[Seventh777]

Well i`m no pro lol, but I handle my balance like thus... When my Neteller account starts filling up (36k max), I transfer to my bank, I never touch the cash in my bank for gambling purposes and I never use my credit/debit cards for depositing, this year however I had another kitty set aside for my sons Xmas box which had all my November and December withdrawals put in, all i`ll say was that was one happy young man lol, especially when he opened his Xmas card and his main present a state of the art telescope , so a good tip here is set yourself some goals on what your winnings could buy, this works for me very well.


P.S.

Ooops my bad, I didn`t really explain my way of gambling, it`s quite simple really I deposit at several casinos, but the amount I deposit at nowadays has been dramatically reduced due to the knock on affect from the world recession, even the once 100% safe and trustworthy MGS casinos are drifting towards the ethics used by RTG, Rival, Top Game, etc, with this in mind I split whatever I have in my betting kitty across the safe casinos (32 Red group, 3Dice, Virgin, Sky Vegas, Ladbrokes), it pays IMHO to refrain from using casinos that are all of the same software, if I start to win at either, I play on, raising stakes to suit until it is obvious the streak is over, then I cash out, all the casinos I now use have no or flushable reverse withdrawal, beat yourself and low will power by removing the source of temptation .

 

[KasinoKing]

Well I don't call myself a pro either, though I have made profits from online casinos every year since 2001.
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I only deposit when I'm getting a decent (or half-decent these days ) bonus. i.e. WR (D+B)x20 absolute maximum and cashable. I have been known to use the occasional Phantom bonus, but only if the WR is pretty low, or the % pretty high.

If I bust out before making the WR I never chase my losses - I just take a different bonus.
If I make WR and have any cashable money left (less than my deposit) I usually withdraw it.
(Sometimes I play on to try to break-even or win - depends how good the whole month is).
If I make WR and have a BIG profit I always withdraw it.

KK

 

[petro]

I am not a pro but my advice is never gamble unless you have the advantage.
Seems to work for me.

 

[slotsoffun]

Hmmm

Think I need to look into a Neteller account or Ukash vouchers instead of using my debit card to deposit. I'm fed up of seeing and endless list of datacash.com on my bank statement, I expect my bank manager is to, not that I go into the red or anything, I make sure all my bills are paid first and whats left is mine.

Although I must start being more responsible with withdrawing when up. I was going through all the things my £900 win would get me, now i'm back to saving up. What a TW*T I am.

 

[slotsoffun]

Well I don't call myself a pro either, though I have made profits from online casinos every year since 2001.
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F**K Me!!! KK your site is unreal. It has given me a whole new view on how to approach wagering,banking,bonuses,when to quit. Everyting really.

No play for me today, i'm gonna sit here and design my spreadsheet / journal to keep an I on my profit/loss,deposits, etc. Maybe having something in black and white will keep me on the right track as to thats enough this month or withdraw, withdraw, withdraw.

Absolutely inspirational, and logical when you think about it.

Thanks

 

[Jufo]

F**K Me!!! KK your site is unreal. It has given me a whole new view on how to approach wagering,banking,bonuses,when to quit. Everyting really.

No play for me today, i'm gonna sit here and design my spreadsheet / journal to keep an I on my profit/loss,deposits, etc. Maybe having something in black and white will keep me on the right track as to thats enough this month or withdraw, withdraw, withdraw.

Absolutely inspirational, and logical when you think about it.

Thanks

Note that it is still not as easy as KasinoKing makes it sound. He makes it sound way too easy imo, and the pitfall is that attempting to play like KasinoKing may give you false sense of confidence. And the slogan "I'll quit as soon as I am ahead" does not work in the long run because it doesn't make any difference if you withdraw when you're ahead and then lose it at another casino. The only way you can win is by being heavily armored with bonuses.

 

[rainmaker]

Note that it is still not as easy as KasinoKing makes it sound. He makes it sound way too easy imo, and the pitfall is that attempting to play like KasinoKing may give you false sense of confidence. And the slogan "I'll quit as soon as I am ahead" does not work in the long run because it doesn't make any difference if you withdraw when you're ahead and then lose it at another casino. The only way you can win is by being heavily armored with bonuses.

Thats true Jufo.

"Quit as soon as I am ahead"...it sounds like he wount never ever play again.

 

[petro]

Note that it is still not as easy as KasinoKing makes it sound.

And judging from the amount of KKs PaBs, it is not as safe as it sounds either.

The only way you can win is by being heavily armored with bonuses.

This is not entirely true. You can also win with an ER above 100%. It is not too uncommon even on the internet to encounter VP with ERs above 100%.

 

[Jufo]

Thats true Jufo.

"Quit as soon as I am ahead"...it sounds like he wount never ever play again.

If it truly meant that, then the player could end up being ahead for the rest of their lifetime. But in practise the player always ends up playing it back somewhere and everyone knows that.

 

[Jufo]

This is not entirely true. You can also win with an ER above 100%. It is not too uncommon even on the internet to encounter VP with ERs above 100%.

Sure, but that as well takes a lot of disclipine and a hefty bankroll to be able to play until hitting the top payout which may take months or even years to hit. And it requires the software to be completely fair as well.

 

[rainmaker]

If it truly meant that, then the player could end up with being ahead for the rest of their lifetime. But in practise the player always ends up playing it back somewhere and everyone knows that.

Yes agree, at one point the player will use some of the winnings to bet again. This may happen at another casino but " quit as soon as I am ahead " is not tru unless the player stops playing completely (never ever play again)

 

[slotsoffun]

Note that it is still not as easy as KasinoKing makes it sound. He makes it sound way too easy imo, and the pitfall is that attempting to play like KasinoKing may give you false sense of confidence. And the slogan "I'll quit as soon as I am ahead" does not work in the long run because it doesn't make any difference if you withdraw when you're ahead and then lose it at another casino. The only way you can win is by being heavily armored with bonuses.

Thats true Jufo.

"Quit as soon as I am ahead"...it sounds like he wount never ever play again.

Jufo & Rainmaker

My Scandnavian friends, I'm not saying KK's methods mean I'm going to win or make profit (thats just ludicrous). I just admire the approach of keeping a journal / diary of deposits, balances, profits & LOSSES

Being self employed / in business, I understand the importance of cash flows and keeping an eye on profit and loss etc. I genuinely believe this approach 'could' help me play with more realism or respect. Instead of making numerous/random deposits from my debit card and playing a slot until my bankroll is gone and not playing with any real goal.

If I keep a record beside me so I can see with my own eyes what i've spent, lost, or won within a month it will keep in the the real world and not the "just another £100, it must pay out something soon". And yes I know I need will power and sensible level of maturity to do this, I'm workin on those to

 

[Jufo]

Yes slotsoffun, that certainly seems like a reasonable approach and it is most likely what you really should do.

 

[rainmaker]

"I just admire the approach of keeping a journal / diary of deposits, balances, profits & LOSSES". Yes, I do agree slotsoffun. Wish I had the energy to do that In 2010 I lost about $ 60 000-70 000 in casinos, mostly in Centrebet. Maybe I would have done better if I keept a better betting system. On the other side, I play more for the fun and excitement. But of course, I am trying to win.

One of the most important things to remember is, don`t gamble if you must win.

 

[KasinoKing]

And judging from the amount of KKs PaBs, it is not as safe as it sounds either.

Amount of my PABs?
Well I'm not sure what you think you are referring to, but for the record I have only ever submitted one Pitch-A-Bitch and it was against the affiliate arm of inChilli - not against the casino itself.
Bryan intervened and got me paid pronto!

Regarding winning at casinos - I certainly NEVER said anywhere that it is easy. It's not.
If it was I'd be playing every minute of the day & getting rich, not wasting my time posting on forums!

KK

 

[3mptyseat]

Bonus Shmo-nus! The only bonuses I ever take are the ones they give me after I lose a deposit. I dont take match bonuses if they are part of my original deposit and hence, hamper my liquidity with said deposit.

And while the cons outweigh the pros as far as attached bonuses for me, I do tend to have the majority of my cashouts be on the 'insurance chips' and I know thats because the max cashout terms on those chips make it silly to play on.

I have often thought that the policy at MGS's are smarter than some of these RTG's that throw the 10x WR 10x Max Cashout, which at first glance seems to protect the casino from having to pay off that big winner... But I have done the math and even though I am likely to turn a $20 dollar bonus into $1000 every so often, I am much more likely to bleed any wins between the bonus chip amount and 4k right back into the houses pocket if there is no cashout restrictions. On the other hand, the 10x cashout restrictions give me a low-water mark once I am above the amount and have completed the playthru.

So armor urself with playthrus and game restrictions and whatnot all u want, I have hit 2 of my 3 lifetime random jackpots on max cashout chips and it sucked. I learned my lesson. For others, maybe a different MO applies, but for me, the only bonus I take is after I have lost my deposit, and they offer me a 10%-60% insurance chip...

 

[slotsoffun]

"I just admire the approach of keeping a journal / diary of deposits, balances, profits & LOSSES". Yes, I do agree slotsoffun. Wish I had the energy to do that In 2010 I lost about $ 60 000-70 000 in casinos, mostly in Centrebet. Maybe I would have done better if I keept a better betting system. On the other side, I play more for the fun and excitement. But of course, I am trying to win.

One of the most important things to remember is, don`t gamble if you must win.

GULP!!!

$60,000 - $70,000 - Where do you work to even get that sort of money to play with???Have they any positons goin I only take home £18,000 a year (whats that $30,000 approx ???) from my day job and £5,000 on top from playing in bands and teaching music at the weekends.

If I earned that I don't think i'd need to gamble in a bid to win a couple of hundred pouds a month. I could not call losing 60k -70k playing for fun, thats a deposit on a house in the UK. Its certainly an I opener as to how large some paoples bankroll and wagers are.

How about you give me $50,000 and i'll hold onto it until Jan 2012 at which point I will give you $40,000 back. That way you will only lose $10,000 this year and I'll be a happy man

 

[rainmaker]

GULP!!!

$60,000 - $70,000 - Where do you work to even get that sort of money to play with???Have they any positons goin I only take home £18,000 a year (whats that $30,000 approx ???) from my day job and £5,000 on top from playing in bands and teaching music at the weekends.

If I earned that I don't think i'd need to gamble in a bid to win a couple of hundred pouds a month. I could not call losing 60k -70k playing for fun, thats a deposit on a house in the UK. Its certainly an I opener as to how large some paoples bankroll and wagers are.

How about you give me $50,000 and i'll hold onto it until Jan 2012 at which point I will give you $40,000 back. That way you will only lose $10,000 this year and I'll be a happy man

"How about you give me $50,000 and i'll hold onto it until Jan 2012 at which point I will give you $40,000 back. That way you will only lose $10,000 this year and I'll be a happy man"


Here is a funny thing. A couple of weeks ago, I reviewed my Centrebet account for last year. I deposited and lost about $ 30 000 there (or something). But I did not get any bonuses, except some small ones. So I sent a messages to the Centrebet rep here at Casinomeister. I just wanted to make him aware of that I think it is fair to give som bonuses to loyal players. He credited my account with a €60 bonus!

Of course, I asked him to remove the bonus. €60!!

 

[Rick Deckard]

I would say decline and reject any form of gimmick, sorry did I say gimmick, I mean't to say bonus and play as free man. Bonuses are designed to draw you in, keep you playing at that casino for as long as possible and to seriously limit your chances of winning. A lot of bonuses are a bit like gimmicks (IMHO), cheap promotions for greedy businessmen, but not all.

As KasinoKing says in another post, some "bonuses are so restrictively designed as to counteract the minority of Advantage Players while hurting the majority of players."

So is this bonus, me thinks, a guaranted money spinner for online casinos as the chances of winning with a bonus are slim to non?

"Bonus hunting - Bonus hunting (also known as bonus bagging or bonus whoring) is a type of advantage gambling where turning a profit from casino, sportsbook and poker room bonus situations is mathematically possible.

For example, the house edge in Blackjack is roughly 0.5%. $5000 in wagering with a house edge of 0.5% will result in an expected loss of $25. Since the player received a $100 sign-up bonus, after subtracting the expected loss of $25, the player has an expected gain of $75."

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Though I don't know any casino that allows you to fully wager your bonus on Blackjack, if they allow it at all.


So if I apply the above Blackjack example to Slots below (if I have applied it correctly?). Is this fair? Does this seem anywhere near in the realms of fairness?

For example, the house edge in Slots is roughly 25.0%. $5000 in wagering with a casino house edge of 25% will result in an expected loss of $1250. Since the player received a $100 sign-up bonus, after subtracting the expected loss of $1250, the player has an expected loss of $1150.

Which I think means you are expected to lose your $100 deposit 10 times over if you accept a Slots bonus. (discaimer: I may have got this completely wrong )

 

[Jufo]

So if I apply the above Blackjack example to Slots below (if I have applied it correctly?). Is this fair? Does this seem anywhere near in the realms of fairness?

For example, the house edge in Slots is roughly 25.0%. $5000 in wagering with a casino house edge of 25% will result in an expected loss of $1250. Since the player received a $100 sign-up bonus, after subtracting the expected loss of $1250, the player has an expected loss of $1150.

Which I think means you are expected to lose your $100 deposit 10 times over if you accept a Slots bonus. (discaimer: I may have got this completely wrong )

Yes you can apply that statement to slots, but the house edge of slots is generally around 5%, not 25%. And once you bust the deposit+bonus you cannot lose any more, so if you take a $100 bonus on $100 deposit, you can only lose maximum of $100 because you don't have to redeposit to finish the bonus wagering requirements, so the expected loss of $1250 isn't valid. Instead it takes more complicated calculations to determine the value of bonus, which can be positive or negative depending on several factors.

 

[petro]

Amount of my PABs?
Well I'm not sure what you think you are referring to, but for the record I have only ever submitted one...

Funny thing that, beacause a few weeks ago I seen the PaB indicator on your sidebar change. Could be my imperfect memory though.

 

[rainmaker]

Yes you can apply that statement to slots, but the house edge of slots is generally around 5%, not 25%. And once you bust the deposit+bonus you cannot lose any more, so if you take a $100 bonus on $100 deposit, you can only lose maximum of $100 because you don't have to redeposit to finish the bonus wagering requirements, so the expected loss of $1250 isn't valid. Instead it takes more complicated calculations to determine the value of bonus, which can be positive or negative depending on several factors.

That is true. And sometimes (if you are a loyal customer) the casino will give the player bonuses that is not connected to any deposits. It gives the player the opportunity to win back som losses.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I use Neteller, and my Barclaycard, for 99% of my deposits. Both options can be withdrawn back to, an important factor to consider.

Firstly, I play any decent bonuses on offer, remembering to keep back enough for any bonuses my experience PREDICTS will be offered

Next, I look at the not so good bonuses, wager tournaments, even MGS tournaments, and see if any seem worth a try.

Lastly, it's play with NO bonuses. If I do well, I am more likely to give some back without expecting a bonus. This is NOT down to a sense of "fair play", but because I KNOW that casinos tend to look for players who are prepared to play even when NO bonus has been offered. Such players tend to remain on the bonus eligibilty list when it gets reviewed, whereas players who ONLY play with large bonuses, and often win, find themselves thrown off the offer lists.

I tend not to keep hold of the small wins, they often end up going back. It is the BIG wins that I tend to cash out, although if my Neteller balance is getting low, I tend to play more conservatively, and WILL cash out small amounts just to make sure there is enough for the next good offer.

The only way to keep winnings for good is to SPEND them on something. This way, they can never be recycled back into the same, or a different, casino.

One important restraint is to NEVER be tempted by those reversal offers. If you look closely, they are rarely as good as the REGULAR offer you will get next week, next month, tomorrow, etc... on a FRESH deposit.

Not only does this get you a better offer, but the win gets split between different casinos, rather than all going back into the one that has just been on a "hot streak".

I withdrew £1400 from Jackpot City a couple of days ago, and next day received their "reverse your £1400 and get........" offer. It was CRAP, but also rather VULNERABLE under certain conditions that did NOT apply in my case. I bet if they DID, I wouldn't have been sent the offer

Their NORMAL offer is 25% on £200, about 10x the value of my reversal offer, and requiring only £200 deposit, rather than a reversal of £1400.

When I said it was Crap, I REALLY MEANT IT It was worth £10

I don't see what made them think I would even consider this, let alone take it up.


The BEST reversal offer was 40% on £3000 reversed. This was BETTER than what is normally offered, but sadly I didn't see it in time.
They thought I had ignored it, and so they dropped a £1000 for £500 offer into the lobby the following week, which was EVEN BETTER by 10% (as well as risking only £1000, rather than the entire £3000).

 

[Jufo]

Mostly in bonus terms I see the term: "reversal of a withdrawal will not be considered as a qualifying deposit for this bonus". If they want you to reverse withdrawal SO BADLY then shouldn't they count them as a qualifying deposit.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Mostly in bonus terms I see the term: "reversal of a withdrawal will not be considered as a qualifying deposit for this bonus". If they want you to reverse withdrawal SO BADLY then shouldn't they count them as a qualifying deposit.

This is what seems to make no sense. If you let the withdrawal go through, and redeposit for the offer after you have received it, it has cost the casino processing fees BOTH WAYS. If you reverse a withdrawal for the offer, the casinos SAVES on those fees, yet the player gets the SAME deal either way.

If anything, this has ensured players CHURN their funds, rather than keep them in their casino accounts, and this costs the casinos more in fees.

Casinos need to REWARD players who keep their rate of churn to a minimum, yet currently they are PUNISHED.

The sudden increase in reversal offers may be the operators experimenting with how much "punishment" they can get away with, as the reversal offers are STILL far inferior to the offers for players who "churn" their funds.

Reversal offers should be at least as good, plus a little extra as a way of rewarding the player for saving the operator the fees associated with a processed withdraw, and later redeposit.
The trend may also reflect FEWER players are now giving in to the temptation to reverse than before.

 

[Jufo]

Yes the most ridiculous was Ladbrokes, which if I remember correctly, wanted a FRESH deposit every day during the Slots Cash Splash promo. The promo was that you needed to wager £50 once a day on selected slots. At the end of the week you got a £70 bonus if you had wagered every day.

At first it was enough to deposit £50 ONCE on Monday, wager it once through on slots, transfer the funds to sportsbook, then repeat it on Tuesday, Wednesday ... Sunday. But then they started demanding that a FRESH deposit must be made every day which led to people depositing £50, playing it once through on slots, cashing out what was left and repeating it every single day.

 

[all4greed]

Well i`m no pro lol, but I handle my balance like thus... When my Neteller account starts filling up (36k max), I transfer to my bank...

Is Neteller so safe and secure that you trust that much money to sit there? Or if something were to happen to those funds it would be no big deal?

 

[vinylweatherman]

Yes the most ridiculous was Ladbrokes, which if I remember correctly, wanted a FRESH deposit every day during the Slots Cash Splash promo. The promo was that you needed to wager £50 once a day on selected slots. At the end of the week you got a £70 bonus if you had wagered every day.

At first it was enough to deposit £50 ONCE on Monday, wager it once through on slots, transfer the funds to sportsbook, then repeat it on Tuesday, Wednesday ... Sunday. But then they started demanding that a FRESH deposit must be made every day which led to people depositing £50, playing it once through on slots, cashing out what was left and repeating it every single day.

I remember that. They told me that it was not what they wanted, even though it worked, and saved them money on the fees.

They got what they wanted, but THEN realised that the change in behaviour was costing them a FORTUNE in fees, because players were making a micro-withdrawal every day of what was left of the £50.

I can't see what the difference is. Ladbrokes would pay within HOURS, and your micro-withdrawal was already THERE the next day to form part of your next deposit, just as it would be there if left in the sports purse and reused (or added to as necessary).

Now, only credit card, UKash, etc, deposits are eligible for the promotions. This makes no material difference though, you can STILL just as easily deposit, play, and micro-withdraw a credit card deposit. Where they can't refund back to the card, they will be sending a cheque DAILY to the player.

Still, they obviously PREFER it this way, since this rule change has been in place now for 2 years.

Is Neteller so safe and secure that you trust that much money to sit there? Or if something were to happen to those funds it would be no big deal?

I would ONLY have that much in Neteller if I intended to use it soon at other casinos, else I would withdraw some to the bank.

Neteller is pretty "safe", but NOT as "safe" as a bank, which is covered by a compensation scheme should a disaster strike, and the money vanish.

Neteller is based in the Isle of Man, and regulated both there, and by the FSA here in the UK. Although this does nothing to compensate customers for money lost due to a crisis, it DOES provide a regime of regulation that is NOT the case with many of the other eWallets that have sprung up to serve mainly the US market. The regulations require Neteller to keep OUR money separate from THEIRS, so that it is NOT used to prop up a failing company. The main weakness is that if the money is STOLEN from this separate account, customers are NOT covered by the FSA compensation scheme, and would have to pursue the matter through the civil courts.

 

[Diane]

I only deposit when I'm getting a decent (or half-decent these days ) bonus. i.e. WR (D+B)x20 absolute maximum and cashable. I have been known to use the occasional Phantom bonus, but only if the WR is pretty low, or the % pretty high.

KK ---- I have not encountered any cashable bonuses that accept US players. Do you know of any? I agree with the 20x WR as being the max I am generally willing to endure if the bonus % itself is high enough.


If I make WR and have a BIG profit I always withdraw it.


One money management trick I learned (finally) is to NEVER, EVER, cancel a pending withdrawal. Request the withdrawal, then leave enough in your account to play for awhile. If you lose that playable balance -- STOP and go to another site while you wait for the withdrawal to clear the original site.
There are enough other options to play at other casinos and protect that precious withdrawal.

Diane

 

[KasinoKing]

KK ---- I have not encountered any cashable bonuses that accept US players. Do you know of any?

Yes, there are loads.
If I may be excused the self-plug; on my KK site I state against each casino whether their bonuses are Phantom or not. (If it doesn't say Phantom, it's probably cashable - but it could be that I don't know, so please check!)
I list loads of cashables on my

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KK

 

[vinylweatherman]

I only deposit when I'm getting a decent (or half-decent these days ) bonus. i.e. WR (D+B)x20 absolute maximum and cashable. I have been known to use the occasional Phantom bonus, but only if the WR is pretty low, or the % pretty high.

KK ---- I have not encountered any cashable bonuses that accept US players. Do you know of any? I agree with the 20x WR as being the max I am generally willing to endure if the bonus % itself is high enough.


If I make WR and have a BIG profit I always withdraw it.


One money management trick I learned (finally) is to NEVER, EVER, cancel a pending withdrawal. Request the withdrawal, then leave enough in your account to play for awhile. If you lose that playable balance -- STOP and go to another site while you wait for the withdrawal to clear the original site.
There are enough other options to play at other casinos and protect that precious withdrawal.

Diane

US players have a harder time because they don't have access to the softwares that tend to always offer fully cashable bonuses. Rival and RTG which DO serve the US market have loads of phantom bonuses, and many with max cashouts.

There is always 3Dice. High variance slot games, unique, but no BS around the bonuses. Enzo has designed a bonus system that is immune from the attentions of "bonus abusers", so there is little need for many of the "sneaky trap" terms and conditions seen elsewhere. This of course means that small depositors get small bonuses, and big depositors don't keep on getting big bonuses unless their deposits produce big "action", rather than being withdrawn the instant WR has been met.

Avoid TopGame like the plague, along with Virtual Group RTG casinos. There are quite a number of unreliable Rival casinos too, so best avoid the "white label" brands until you have done some "due dilligence" here in the complaints section.

IF you had an account with MGS before they pulled out, it may be possible to use it with the new "Microgaming USA" software, since in most cases accounts were transferred.

 

[Rick Deckard]

Yes, there are loads.
If I may be excused the self-plug; on my KK site I state against each casino whether their bonuses are Phantom or not. (If it doesn't say Phantom, it's probably cashable - but it could be that I don't know, so please check!)
I list loads of cashables on my

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KK

Visited your website KasinoKing and liked it . Though I was wondering why you still promote Rival White Label casinos as they are currently not recommended by Casinomeister?

https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/

 

[KasinoKing]

Visited your website KasinoKing and liked it . Though I was wondering why you still promote Rival White Label casinos as they are currently not recommended by Casinomeister?

With all due respect to CasinoMeister, he just lumped ALL the white labels into the "Not Recommended" section due to the unsavoury antics of just a few of them. I totally understand his his reason for doing this as checking each of the 30+ casinos individually would be a huge ball-ache.
For my sites I have studied the actions of each one individually and flagged them accordingly (rogue, not recommended/proceed with caution & Good to go).
There are some very good Rival White Label casinos who you wont find ANY complaints about - personally I don't think it's fair to tar them all with the same brush.

KK