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Horse Racing & Tips Thread

All to play for doing to the last race. Nobody picked first or second.
One Selection on Stattler 7/2and two picks for streets of doyen 10/1.

These five people all have points. Narrow lead for Davey.
Davey86 3.2
Slottery 3.0
Gaz237 3.0
Paul7388 2.6
Escjamie 1.7


Now to enjoy the gold cup.
I've backed Champ each way again :rolleyes:
 
Kenji85 said:
More importantly what a week for DeBromhead!
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And for Blackmore and ladies in racing. Other than Jenny Pitman the only other female trainer of note was Gay Kellaway back in the day.
I often used to see her when I worked at Lingfield. She trained not far from Lingfield back in the early 90's and had a big fall out with the old wigs at the track to the point that she refused to send her nags there. Eventually she moved stables.
I think it is great to see female type things being treat on a more equal footing in racing these days.
 
Kenji85 said:
Incredibly after 3 races of 12 people picking a total of 365 selections. Nobody had a winner!

Congratulations @Gaz237 your two placed horses netted you 4.67 points and the win. PM to follow.

Unlucky Paul 7388 second with 4.05.
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Looking at the finishing prices of most of the placed horses I can see why nobody picked a winner. After the first days racing I guess the bookies where fearing the worst but I bet they are smiling now. Over all this week has been a cheap day out for me :)
 
@colinsunderland -Believe it or not you just gave me the last winner, a fiver ew on Porlock Bay. I wouldnt have backed it but I remembered way back in this thread you said it was being aimed at this race, thats stuck with me as you know what you are talking about ( most of the time :) ) so I thought id give it a go.
Makes up for the poor race Champ ran.
 
3.35U Midlands National - Ramses De Teillee 33/1 5 places (28/1 7 places with Skybet but not BOG).
Same race, Captain Drake for Harry Fry is currently 12/1, and Acting Lass is 100/1. Presumably Sean could have chosen which one to ride, so seems strange to think he chose the 100/1 outsider of the field if he didn't think it might have a chance. Obviously only small stakes on that one.

4.55N Monbeg Aquadude, another small EW bet on this, just based on it running well for most the race last time out. Maybe coming back to form a little and is in a first time tongue tie. 16/1.

2.25U Another of Sean's, but think this is a good EW bet to nothing. Currently 11/2, he was beaten last time at a short price, and you have to forgive that run, but his previous form is as good as any in the race. First time tongue tie should revitalise him, and will be surprised if he finishes out the places.

3.00U Winningseverything. Just putting this in to make up the EW Lucky 15 as struggled to pick a fourth horse. He's won both his hurdles to date but this is quite a step up in class. Didn't really want to back another of Sean's but was stuck for anything else to put in. Bit of money for it, currently 10/1

Good luck today all
 
There is some decent racing again today but it is a comedown after the past four days :( My banker of the day is Heptathlete in the 730 at Wolves @4/1

These are my main bets for today. Good luck

EW lucky 15
Sat 14:35

12 - Kauto D'Amour @ 9/1
14.35 Newcastle - Paying 4 Places instead of 3
Distance2m 4f 62y
EW Terms1/5 for the first 4 places
Sat 14:40
2 - Nightboattoclyro @ 3/1
14.40 Kempton
Sat 15:20
6 - The Tin Miner @ 6/1
15.20 Fontwell
Sat 15:45
4 - Blakerigg @ 4/1
15.45 Newcastle
Sat 16:55
5 - Furius De Ciergues @ 5/2

and

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way

5. Rambling Rose
9/1
20th Mar THURLES 14:15 2M 1/2F HURDLE 2m 101yds - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
3. Blast Of Koeman
14/1
20th Mar THURLES 14:50 3M HURDLE 2m 7f 198yds - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
19. Mister Butler
5/1
20th Mar THURLES 15:25 3M HCAP HURDLE 2m 7f 198yds - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
2. Castlegrange
5/1
20th Mar THURLES 16:35 2M 4 1/2F HCAP CHASE 2m 4f 121yds - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds
 
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Decent racing for sure but ya I've done only one ew lucky 15 so far.
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fancy them all to be involved at the very least.


May do another bet later depending on how much racing I watch.
Have two small football bets on also and this mug acca that pays 17/1

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Gl all having a punt.
 
colinsunderland said:
3.35U Midlands National - Ramses De Teillee 33/1 5 places (28/1 7 places with Skybet but not BOG).
Same race, Captain Drake for Harry Fry is currently 12/1, and Acting Lass is 100/1. Presumably Sean could have chosen which one to ride, so seems strange to think he chose the 100/1 outsider of the field if he didn't think it might have a chance. Obviously only small stakes on that one.

4.55N Monbeg Aquadude, another small EW bet on this, just based on it running well for most the race last time out. Maybe coming back to form a little and is in a first time tongue tie. 16/1.

2.25U Another of Sean's, but think this is a good EW bet to nothing. Currently 11/2, he was beaten last time at a short price, and you have to forgive that run, but his previous form is as good as any in the race. First time tongue tie should revitalise him, and will be surprised if he finishes out the places.

3.00U Winningseverything. Just putting this in to make up the EW Lucky 15 as struggled to pick a fourth horse. He's won both his hurdles to date but this is quite a step up in class. Didn't really want to back another of Sean's but was stuck for anything else to put in. Bit of money for it, currently 10/1

Good luck today all
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I've just checked out Ramses De Teillee and he does seem to prefer softer ground. I've taken Truckin Away who seems to like it soft and has been in good form
Good luck :)
 
colinsunderland said:
@geordiecolin was your first bet a lucky 31? unlucky on missing out on one for the places
@Kenji85 think you had one unplaced too didn't you :(
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Ya all 3 placed were second but it returned double the investment so cant complain.

I also spotted @geordiecolin first bet going well. Great picking. Super unlucky with blast of koeman at a massive price. Was staying on like a train.
 
My cross sport acca was let down by one golfer but PP gave me a free bet to soften the blow a little.
The curragh returns today which is always a fun watch.

I've done a couple of first goalscorers so far and a small lucky 15.
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I wouldn't put anyone off backing West Ham at 5/2 home to arsenal either. Arsenal played Thursday and West ham didn't midweek on top of that they are playing really well.
 
Kenji85 said:
Ya all 3 placed were second but it returned double the investment so cant complain.

I also spotted @geordiecolin first bet going well. Great picking. Super unlucky with blast of koeman at a massive price. Was staying on like a train.
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We had both picked The Tin Minor and it just got chinned on the line otherwise it would have been a much better return.

Some nice ew racing in old Hibernia today. Good luck if your having a bet :thumbsup:

EW Lucky 31

4 - Big Gossey @ 9/2
14.00 Curragh: Money Back As Cash If Your Horse Finishes 2nd or 3rd (T's & C's Apply)
Sun 15:05
9 - Shackleton Hero @ 17/2
15.05 Curragh
Sun 16:10
10 - Casanova @ 11/1
16.10 Curragh: Irish Lincolnshire - Paying 7 Places instead of 4
Sun 16:40
16 - Ballycaines @ 13/2
16.40 Curragh - Paying 6 Places instead of 4
Sun 17:10
17 - Falsaron @ 9/1
17.10 Curragh - Paying 6 Places instead of 4

And

Lucky 15 EW

Sun 14:45
8 - Coach Carter @ 10/3
14.45 Downpatrick
Sun 15:47
4 - Nick Lost @ 10/1
15.47 Downpatrick: Ulster National - Paying 5 Places instead of 3
Sun 16:22
3 - West Is Best @ 9/2
16.22 Downpatrick - Paying 4 instead of 3
Sun 16:52
4 - Cemister @ 10/3
16.52 Downpatrick
 
4.20P hmmmm. Strange market mover here. Blood Eagle, 50/1 last night, now best priced 6/4, couple of firms going evens, but 5.5 (9/2) on Betfair Exchange, and while it's had money, it's not a massive amount. Racing post comments are 'Flat winner for Andrew Balding (1m4f); has shown nothing whatsoever over hurdles so far.'

His other runners

100 Southwell - Notnow Seamus - Was 22/1 but is now 11/8.
203 Southwell - Perfect Predator - Was 12/1 but is now Evens.
340 Kelso - Getaman - Was 14/1 but is now 11/8
340 Kelso - The Gold Bug - Has stayed roughly the same price, and is drifting slightly.
 
colinsunderland said:
4.20P hmmmm. Strange market mover here. Blood Eagle, 50/1 last night, now best priced 6/4, couple of firms going evens, but 5.5 (9/2) on Betfair Exchange, and while it's had money, it's not a massive amount. Racing post comments are 'Flat winner for Andrew Balding (1m4f); has shown nothing whatsoever over hurdles so far.'

His other runners

100 Southwell - Notnow Seamus - Was 22/1 but is now 11/8.
203 Southwell - Perfect Predator - Was 12/1 but is now Evens.
340 Kelso - Getaman - Was 14/1 but is now 11/8
340 Kelso - The Gold Bug - Has stayed roughly the same price, and is drifting slightly.
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That is a very strange one. The trainer himself has basically said that they are all more or less donkeys when asked for comment this morning?
 
geordiecolin said:
That is a very strange one. The trainer himself has basically said that they are all more or less donkeys when asked for comment this morning?
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I know, I saw that, it's hard to tell whats a real gamble these days without looking closely at the Betfair Trading volumes, and even then it's more going from what you know rather than see.

For example, 1.00 Not Now Seamus currently trading at 5.0 on BF, has been matched at odds of 7-28 but only for pennies. £22k traded as opposed to 14k on the favourite. That suggests most the money has been people trading against the bookies, ie backing at say 10/1, laying at 6.0 to tie in a profit, rather than a gamble and people backing it to win, especially when the favourite is solid and has hardly moved in price on Betfair, where, really, it should have drifted with that sort of money against it.

Perfect Predator a similar story, trading at 5.2, but masses more trades then the second and third favourites, Predator's price is too high based on them than if it were a real gamble.

Getaman, is again similar, but if one of them was a proper gamble and expected to win, looking at the figures (and price, currently 3.2) I would say it were this one.

Blood Eagle, same. Three times the money as the favourite, yet a higher price.

The trainer will be fucked if they all win, especially after his comments this morning.

I can see why people might think at least a couple might win, been racing out the back on heavy ground. Better today, headgear on, but really they would all have to show a lot more than they have so far.
 
colinsunderland said:
I know, I saw that, it's hard to tell whats a real gamble these days without looking closely at the Betfair Trading volumes, and even then it's more going from what you know rather than see.

For example, 1.00 Not Now Seamus currently trading at 5.0 on BF, has been matched at odds of 7-28 but only for pennies. £22k traded as opposed to 14k on the favourite. That suggests most the money has been people trading against the bookies, ie backing at say 10/1, laying at 6.0 to tie in a profit, rather than a gamble and people backing it to win, especially when the favourite is solid and has hardly moved in price on Betfair, where, really, it should have drifted with that sort of money against it.

Perfect Predator a similar story, trading at 5.2, but masses more trades then the second and third favourites, Predator's price is too high based on them than if it were a real gamble.

Getaman, is again similar, but if one of them was a proper gamble and expected to win, looking at the figures (and price, currently 3.2) I would say it were this one.

Blood Eagle, same. Three times the money as the favourite, yet a higher price.

The trainer will be fucked if they all win, especially after his comments this morning.

I can see why people might think at least a couple might win, been racing out the back on heavy ground. Better today, headgear on, but really they would all have to show a lot more than they have so far.
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I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole but I will be watching with interest how they get on. If the first wins then I suspect the money will pile on the others.
Very poor racing today for an ew lover so I have just used a free £5 in Skybet to place a £4.80 on this

LUCKY 15 EW

1 - Ahead Of The Field @ 12/1
13.55 Navan
Mon 14:55
12 - Sideshift @ 4/1
14.55 Navan
Mon 16:30
8 - Mc Alpine @ 17/2
16.30 Navan - Paying 4 Places instead of 3
Mon 17:00
18 - Danegeld @ 15/2
17.00 Navan - Paying 5 Places instead of 4

Then a small one with PP

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way

8. Robin Des Smoke
7/2
22nd Mar PLUMPTON 13:45 NOVICES' HURDLE 2m 4f 114y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
2. Pounding Poet
7/1
22nd Mar SOUTHWELL 15:03 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 4f 88y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
6. Robsam
9/1
22nd Mar SOUTHWELL 15:33 HANDICAP HURDLE 3m 0f 60y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places
1. Joie De Vivre
13/2
22nd Mar KELSO 15:40 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 4f 189y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
 
Some dodgy goings on there like.
First one, pulled up, and was being chased along from the start. Drifted to 5/1 at one point, SP 4/1
2nd one, drifted to 10/1 SP, second last, beaten 38 lengths.
The next one will be interesting as it's the only one it looked like there was any real money for, Getaman in the 3.40, but thats drifted from the earlier 6/5 to 7/2 already.
 
colinsunderland said:
Some dodgy goings on there like.
First one, pulled up, and was being chased along from the start. Drifted to 5/1 at one point, SP 4/1
2nd one, drifted to 10/1 SP, second last, beaten 38 lengths.
The next one will be interesting as it's the only one it looked like there was any real money for, Getaman in the 3.40, but thats drifted from the earlier 6/5 to 7/2 already.
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I can not see the benefit of any manipulation that may be going on?

My first romped home after quite a gamble on it. I got 12/1 and it won at 5/1 :)
 
geordiecolin said:
I can not see the benefit of any manipulation that may be going on?

My first romped home after quite a gamble on it. I got 12/1 and it won at 5/1 :)
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Manipulating the markets. Could be that they were going to win, but others got hold of the info and they couldn't get on at the right price so left it for another day, few reasons it could have been a plot but didn't go ahead. After his comments this morning it was obvious they weren't going to win, as if they had, he would have had some extremely difficult questions to answer. Be interesting to see how they run over the next few tries.

I really like Sean's in the next, Only The Bold, got 7/4 this morning, now 11/10.
 
Pretty poor racing today

2.20W Messire Des Obeaux should win this as he seems a class above everything else in the race, been running in and winnning much better races than the others, can ignore his 4th in a group 1 last time out as the ground was heavy, but prior to that his form is massively ahead of anything else in the race. 5/6 - not going to bankrupt the bookies, but I have him down as around a 1/2 shot.

2.35H Ajero 10/11

2.42T Grandads Cottage 8/11 should be able to reverse placings with Time to Tinker with a 6lb turn round in the weights.

Not the most inspiring bet, but pays around 5.5/1
 
colinsunderland said:
Pretty poor racing today

2.20W Messire Des Obeaux should win this as he seems a class above everything else in the race, been running in and winnning much better races than the others, can ignore his 4th in a group 1 last time out as the ground was heavy, but prior to that his form is massively ahead of anything else in the race. 5/6 - not going to bankrupt the bookies, but I have him down as around a 1/2 shot.

2.35H Ajero 10/11

2.42T Grandads Cottage 8/11 should be able to reverse placings with Time to Tinker with a 6lb turn round in the weights.

Not the most inspiring bet, but pays around 5.5/1
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Its not the greatest racing today but I've managed to stick a few small ones on. I couldn't find 4 for a lucky 15 in Ireland so I've avoided there.

This is one of my bets. Good luck :)

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way

6. First Assembly
6/1
23rd Mar HUNTINGDON 13:00 NOVICE'S HANDICAP CHASE 2m 7f 129y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
2. Gentlemans Dream
11/4
23rd Mar HUNTINGDON 13:35 HANDICAP CHASE 2m 0f 104y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
3. Sound Of Music
13/2
23rd Mar HUNTINGDON 15:10 HANDICAP HURDLE 3m 1f 10y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
4. Vue Cavaliere
7/1
23rd Mar TAUNTON 15:17 NOVICE'S HANDICAP CHASE 2m 2f 40y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds
 
Lincoln Saturday. Think Brunch has a really good chance here. First runner for Michael Dodds since 2011, despite only being an hour away, when he won it. Currently 16/1 with Hills (17.52/1 boosted odds) he is almost certain to be lower on Saturday, as is only 11/1-12/1 elsewhere. If nothing else, an opportunity for a lay as I expect him to be closer to 8/1 on the day.
 
colinsunderland said:
Lincoln Saturday. Think Brunch has a really good chance here. First runner for Michael Dodds since 2011, despite only being an hour away, when he won it. Currently 16/1 with Hills (17.52/1 boosted odds) he is almost certain to be lower on Saturday, as is only 11/1-12/1 elsewhere. If nothing else, an opportunity for a lay as I expect him to be closer to 8/1 on the day.
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I quite like Grove Ferry as a decent ew shot but I will wait until closer to the off before deciding.
I've just had a nice touch at Cork which has given me a nice war chest for the next 3 days plus I am waiting for Just a slip in the next at Sedgefield to complete another lucky 15

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way
P
11. James Fort
3/1
25th Mar CORK 15:30 2M 4F HURDLE 2m 4f - Each Way
15:30 25 March 2021
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
W
9. Just Another Lady
8/1 9/1
25th Mar CORK 16:05 2M 4F HCAP HURDLE 2m 4f - Each Way
16:05 25 March 2021
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
Rule 4: 5p Deduction
Best odds
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2. Street Value
4/1
25th Mar CORK 16:35 3M HCAP HURDLE 3m - Each Way
16:35 25 March 2021
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 2 Places
Rule 4: 45p Deduction
Best odds
W
6. Hilltop Supreme
5/1 9/1
25th Mar CORK 17:05 2M 4F HCAP HURDLE 2m 4f - Each Way
17:05 25 March 2021
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
Rule 4: 5p Deduction
Best odds
 
This is one of my lucky 15's today. This evening I like the look of Fashion Free 6.45 Newcastle EW Good luck if your having a punt :thumbsup:

Lucky 31 (x62) Each Way

11. Cape Greco
17/2
26th Mar LINGFIELD 14:50 HANDICAP 1m 0f 1y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places
7. Diamond State
7/1
26th Mar MUSSELBURGH 15:05 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 0f 85y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
11. Love Baileys
8/1
26th Mar LINGFIELD 15:25 HANDICAP 0m 7f 1y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
10. Millie The Minx
4/1
26th Mar MUSSELBURGH 16:10 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 3f 171y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
1. Sidi Ismael
11/2
26th Mar MUSSELBURGH 16:45 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 3f 171y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
 
Posting this now in case I forget to post in the morning.

In the Lincoln (3.10 Donc) I have Ouzo in my notebook for quite a while.

Goes well fresh, was second first run last season.
Wont mind the trip and I really liked the way he moved his last run of last season when winning at York.

As always the race is wide open but as each way pokes go I am go in on it.

25/1 6 places PP
22/1 7 places skybet (remember though,they don't do BOG,whereas PP is BOG from 8am).
 
There has been a lot of races to choose from but I eventually got there. I also quite fancied Home Before Dusk in the 235 but I had to stop somewhere. This is my main bet for this afternoon. Good luck all :)

Lucky 31 (x62) Each Way

3. Father Of Jazz
7/1
27th Mar DONCASTER 14:00 EVENT 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
14:00 Today
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

14. Artistic Rifles
7/1
27th Mar DONCASTER 14:35 HANDICAP 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
10. Grove Ferry
20/1
27th Mar DONCASTER 15:10 HANDICAP 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 6 Places
6. Vanity Affair
13/2
27th Mar DONCASTER 16:55 APPRENTICE HANDICAP 1m 2f 43y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
7. Charlie Arthur
11/2
27th Mar DONCASTER 17:25 APPRENTICE HANDICAP 1m 2f 43y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds
 
If Jonbon is half as good as the stable think, he will win the 5.45 Newbury, and I'm amazed he's odds against, although only 6/5.

Ones I like today

2.05M Panadol at 4/1 should win this *disclaimer, I do terrible here
2.00D Montatham 7/2 (Qaysar would be my longshot in this race)
2.15K Master The Stars 8/1 EW
3.45D Just Frank 9/2

Still like Brunch to be placed or win the 3.10, and i looked at Graphite last night when it was 100/1 and thought I would have £2.50 EW on it, but it's now 22/1 best price, so screw that.....guaranteed it will win now :(

Good luck today
 
colinsunderland said:
If Jonbon is half as good as the stable think, he will win the 5.45 Newbury, and I'm amazed he's odds against, although only 6/5.
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To be fair it is a very strong bumper as ordinary bumpers go.

The profile is unreal though. Full brother to Douvan. Won PTP with ease and changed hands for over half a million I believe. The second in that PTP which he beat by a long way has since placed twice in races under rules for Gary Moore.
Shouldn't mind the ground. Douvan never struggled on G/S.


Probably a watching brief today but a good performance and watch how he'll appear at the head of the market for every novice hurdle at next years festival!
 
Kenji85 said:
To be fair it is a very strong bumper as ordinary bumpers go.

The profile is unreal though. Full brother to Douvan. Won PTP with ease and changed hands for over half a million I believe. The second in that PTP which he beat by a long way has since placed twice in races under rules for Gary Moore.
Shouldn't mind the ground. Douvan never struggled on G/S.


Probably a watching brief today but a good performance and watch how he'll appear at the head of the market for every novice hurdle at next years festival!
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Bloody hell man after yours and Col's write up I have already put my pen through my bet on Petrossian :(
 

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