Horse Racing & Tips Thread

[DrFeelgood]

I mostly bet on Thunder and Roses and sometimes Gas Line Boy . They are good

 

[Slottery]

Any semi educated guesses when UK racing could be back in some format or no even guesses made about anything yet?

 

[geordiecolin]

Any semi educated guesses when UK racing could be back in some format or no even guesses made about anything yet?

Watching an interview with someone from the Jockey club recently they where waiting for approval to start racing behind closed doors at the beginning of next month. It must be devestating for the racing industry as well as owners as things are. Not all owners are rich and it costs on average about £500 per week t keep a horse in training

 

[Slottery]

Watching an interview with someone from the Jockey club recently they where waiting for approval to start racing behind closed doors at the beginning of next month. It must be devestating for the racing industry as well as owners as things are. Not all owners are rich and it costs on average about £500 per week t keep a horse in training

Thought somehow that without audience it could be possible to bring races back at least on some level, betting companies for sure could help out if they can't make them financially for closed doors, it's quite big hit for them as well that they could be happy to give some share of their racing revenue to support that these events do happen.

Like you said, that £500 is average, for some it lots more if you think you have a great talent and get it to best trainer you can think.... And training for nothing is also bit boring but can't also leave some young horse totally without training for year or two.

Would make somethng to our days as well to spend some time everyday to pick up easy winners with high odds

 

[geordiecolin]

Thought somehow that without audience it could be possible to bring races back at least on some level, betting companies for sure could help out if they can't make them financially for closed doors, it's quite big hit for them as well that they could be happy to give some share of their racing revenue to support that these events do happen.

Like you said, that £500 is average, for some it lots more if you think you have a great talent and get it to best trainer you can think.... And training for nothing is also bit boring but can't also leave some young horse totally without training for year or two.

Would make somethng to our days as well to spend some time everyday to pick up easy winners with high odds

I have never bothered with racing from abroad but this past week I have been sticking a few small bets on racing from America. Gulfstream and Tampa Bay has been on in recent evenings and are so today starting at 1730 UK time this evening. Surprisingly I've been holding my own

 

[Slottery]

Haven't even bothered to look AUS/US racing like some seem to be doing, still trying to get bit more familiar with UK/IRE, now there would be great time to put some more effort in it when staying average 23.5h a day inside (or in very small backyard).
Maybe taking a look and try US with few quids today

 

[geordiecolin]

Another thing thats been mooted is the possibility of doing what they do in America which is holding 4-5-6 day meetings at the same venue which prevents Jockeys and everyone involved from travelling about too much.
Imagine the partying going on

 

[Slottery]

Hope they figure something safe out, if there are only needed staff attending, it could be arranged with very small risk (same level what we have to take to fast buy our groceries) and of course everybody with any symptoms would stay home.

We can just wait and see but would be warmly welcome to have one more task so spend some time daily, otherwise start to work too much

 

[colinsunderland]

Cant see them doing it behind closed doors while the lockdown is in place, which I think will get extended for another 3 weeks. Theres a lot of staff needed and its almost impossible to keep 2m apart, for flat racing, the stalls are too close together as an example.

 

[Slottery]

Maybe they could run for best time one by one?

 

[poljo88]

Who is the best horse racing tipster?

 

[geordiecolin]

Who is the best horse racing tipster?

I never tend to follow tipsters much after working around trainers and owners for years and their tips falling flat. I've never been a big spender anyhow prefering to stick to 4-5 horse combo bets for small stakes knowing that if they all come in I will win big anyhoo and if I lose I've lost nothing much.
Tamper Bay and Will Rogers Downs will keep me entertained this evening with my lucky 15's

 

[nutnut]

Never advise people to gamble.

But Los Alamitos 2.47am tonight

SANTALUZ DREAMIN 8/1

This horse is massively overpriced imo. It won its first 2 races at Los al in good style and then ran solid 4th in a allowance race. 2nd and 3rd from that have won 20k+ claimers. Drops back down to a 6k claimer tonight.

Will go off nuch shorter come post time.

 

[colinsunderland]

Never advise people to gamble.

But Los Alamitos 2.47am tonight

SANTALUZ DREAMIN 8/1

This horse is massively overpriced imo. It won its first 2 races at Los al in good style and then ran solid 4th in a allowance race. 2nd and 3rd from that have won 20k+ claimers. Drops back down to a 6k claimer tonight.

Will go off much shorter come post time.

11/4 now
stuck a £2 free bet on, intending to come back and deposit £20, forgot until just now, and the rest is history. Not taking 11/4 lol

 

[colinsunderland]

unlucky beaten by about a head

 

[geordiecolin]

I'm surprised at how big the prize money generally is in France. If the UK doesn't start racing soon we will probably see quite a few UK horses racing in France

 

[geordiecolin]

Ladbokes are giving a £5 bonus if you wager £5 on selected slots. Only 1x wagering on the £5 bonus so you cant go far wrong
And welcome back to UK racing from Monday

 

[geordiecolin]

I'm not a fan of Ladbrokes so I just took the money and ran. But if your looking for to stick a bet on anyway then its worth adding a few quid to your bet.
PS. The list of excluded slots is extensive so check the terms carefully

 

[paul7388]

Ladbokes are giving a £5 bonus if you wager £5 on selected slots. Only 1x wagering on the £5 bonus so you cant go far wrong
And welcome back to UK racing from Monday

I sort of miss Ladbrokes.

Account been locked for 2 years now due to their mistake. Seeing your post about them made me try logging in again.

By some shock it now let me log in. Saw my balance and went well don't think i will be logging in again. Sitting at -£119.22

 

[geordiecolin]

I sort of miss Ladbrokes.

Account been locked for 2 years now due to their mistake. Seeing your post about them made me try logging in again.

By some shock it now let me log in. Saw my balance and went well don't think i will be logging in again. Sitting at -£119.22

Ha ha. I've never seen a online account in the red before! Feck them. I don't like Ladbrokes but they owe me so I have no issues with taking advantage of their occasional generosity

 

[paul7388]

Ha ha. I've never seen a online account in the red before! Feck them. I don't like Ladbrokes but they owe me so I have no issues with taking advantage of their occasional generosity

Had the account for like 20 years. Then 2 years ago they had settled some bets wrong. Took days 2 fix then they ended up settling them wrong again but this time they paid too much on those bets.

The next day money was still in account so i withdrew it in the shop. Then that night my account was blocked. Now i was not even sure how much i owed them and they would not tell me on Live Chat. Tried a few times and they would not say. They said if i wanted account unlocked i needed to phone.

Also sent a few emails saying that if they had screwed up they should not have blocked account as it was their fault and for the amount i use them i would pay it back since i liked using them. They would not say how much so i went oh well plenty other sites i use .

Tried many times to check account over last 2 years last night was first ever time it let me log in.

 

[Slottery]

Happen in Betfair quite often these days, mostly due to VAR decision in my cases, have few times withdrawn my balance to get it negative for a while, just to hope they would pick it up from their reporting and would wait these VAR decisions like anyone else. It's annoying enough to get goal disallowed after few mins and end up you to lose but top of that paying your winnings and then take it off don't make the moment any happier...

 

[paul7388]

Happen in Betfair quite often these days, mostly due to VAR decision in my cases, have few times withdrawn my balance to get it negative for a while, just to hope they would pick it up from their reporting and would wait these VAR decisions like anyone else. It's annoying enough to get goal disallowed after few mins and end up you to lose but top of that paying your winnings and then take it off don't make the moment any happier...

This VAR thing these days is so bloody annoying.

I like to bet over under goals in matches in play. See the amount of times now you get a goal. Betting gets suspended then after minute or 2 it restarts. Place a bet again then a couple minutes later it then updates again disallowing goal. So your new bet is then waiting on an extra goal for that game with way lower odds.

Does it stop me betting tho. No lol.

 

[colinsunderland]

I'm not a fan of Ladbrokes so I just took the money and ran. But if your looking for to stick a bet on anyway then its worth adding a few quid to your bet.
PS. The list of excluded slots is extensive so check the terms carefully

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Imagine winning any of those Jackpots at Ladbrokes, at that stake, and only getting £1000!

 

[geordiecolin]

Had the account for like 20 years. Then 2 years ago they had settled some bets wrong. Took days 2 fix then they ended up settling them wrong again but this time they paid too much on those bets.

The next day money was still in account so i withdrew it in the shop. Then that night my account was blocked. Now i was not even sure how much i owed them and they would not tell me on Live Chat. Tried a few times and they would not say. They said if i wanted account unlocked i needed to phone.

Also sent a few emails saying that if they had screwed up they should not have blocked account as it was their fault and for the amount i use them i would pay it back since i liked using them. They would not say how much so i went oh well plenty other sites i use .

Tried many times to check account over last 2 years last night was first ever time it let me log in.

I can not remember why I don't much like Ladbrokes now because its been so long. But like with most things once I am done I am done.
I'm sure that someone could remind me because it is related to a few issues highlighted in here?

 

[colinsunderland]

I can not remember why I don't much like Ladbrokes now because its been so long. But like with most things once I am done I am done.
I'm sure that someone could remind me because it is related to a few issues highlighted in here?

I stopped using Ladbrokes about 17 years ago when they limited my SFC's to 10p after I did 3 x £10 ones which all lost. Bear in mind my account was showing a massive loss at the time, as I was trading off using betfair on a lot of races, back in the days when you could make money from Betfair
I spoke to one of the traders and they told me it was because I had put the bets on the all weather and, I quote, they are easy to fix races. I pointed out I had massive losses in the past year on all weather races (was over £10k at the time) and surely if I had the ability to fix races, I would be at least close to level or in profit. I asked if that meant I couldn't play in shop for higher stakes, and he said no, you can do them in shop for £100 without having to go through security, but as online was easier 'to fix' then I was limited there lol.

 

[geordiecolin]

I stopped using Ladbrokes about 17 years ago when they limited my SFC's to 10p after I did 3 x £10 ones which all lost. Bear in mind my account was showing a massive loss at the time, as I was trading off using betfair on a lot of races, back in the days when you could make money from Betfair
I spoke to one of the traders and they told me it was because I had put the bets on the all weather and, I quote, they are easy to fix races. I pointed out I had massive losses in the past year on all weather races (was over £10k at the time) and surely if I had the ability to fix races, I would be at least close to level or in profit. I asked if that meant I couldn't play in shop for higher stakes, and he said no, you can do them in shop for £100 without having to go through security, but as online was easier 'to fix' then I was limited there lol.

Did you have your own racing site at the time? I can't see any logic in their reasoning?

I only bet at Paddy Power and I find it frustrating to have to go to Corals or Ladbrokes to find the form of horses because PP do not display any for the French racing. How are PP expecting punters to bet when they don't display such things?

 

[colinsunderland]

Did you have your own racing site at the time? I can't see any logic in their reasoning?

I only bet at Paddy Power and I find it frustrating to have to go to Corals or Ladbrokes to find the form of horses because PP do not display any for the French racing. How are PP expecting punters to bet when they don't display such things?

yes but it was fairly new, and they didn't know about it. There wasn't, I checked about 5 years ago and was still limited to the same stake haha.

 

[geordiecolin]

Welcome back to the UK racing. My bets will be small because I expect the results will be even less predictable than normal due to varying fitness levels.
I suspect when the football starts it may be the same story

 

[colinsunderland]

Having a bet today for the first time since before lockdown.

2.45K Host
5.05K Malika I Jahan
2.30N Glen Shiel
6.00N Big Country

Big Country usually runs in Class 1 and 2 races, this is the first time he's been dropped to a class 3 for a while now, previously won and placed in most. Been over in Dubai recently where he didn't do well, but a lot of horses don't adapt to Meydan, so not letting that put me off.

 

[geordiecolin]

Having a bet today for the first time since before lockdown.

2.45K Host
5.05K Malika I Jahan
2.30N Glen Shiel
6.00N Big Country

Big Country usually runs in Class 1 and 2 races, this is the first time he's been dropped to a class 3 for a while now, previously won and placed in most. Been over in Dubai recently where he didn't do well, but a lot of horses don't adapt to Meydan, so not letting that put me off.

Yesterdays results just highlighted to me why I am keeping my bets low at the moment but for today I have taken these


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Good luck today Col

 

[colinsunderland]

I agree, I haven't even looked at yesterdays racing but there will be some big price winners as we go.
If I have a betfair account that is still useable I may lay everything in running today if I'm still in at around 1.03 in the win and place markets, as i think horses will be tired and tie up at the end. Have to see what the liquidity is like too though
Good luck to you too mate

 

[cncas2123]

Yesterdays results just highlighted to me why I am keeping my bets low at the moment but for today I have taken these


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Good luck today Col

Just a pity about the second one @colinsunderland but still decent picking for the second day back, and you will be in profit.

 

[geordiecolin]

Just a pity about the second one @colinsunderland but still decent picking for the second day back, and you will be in profit.

Yeah it more than pays for my bets tomorrow but as always Newcastle bombed

 

[geordiecolin]

In fact when I die I am going to have the Newcastle football team lower my coffin so they can let me down one last time

 

[cncas2123]

Yeah it more than pays for my bets tomorrow but as always Newcastle bombed

My bro has the same problem, Newcastle is just his unlucky course and he doesnt even bother picking a bet from there any more.
For me, all courses are unlucky I just bet because I feel sorry for all the poor bookies out there

 

[geordiecolin]

I'm avoiding those races with first timers like the plague but enjoying it all the same. Here are my punts for today
Lucky 15 EW
1.00 Shoot to win
245 Thaayer
320 Sunset breeze
505 tabaahy

And
Lucky 15 EW

445 Mia Mento
520 Ginger jam
540 Londonia
615 Ampney Red

And
Lucky15 EW

And at Coral after a free bet win

LUCKY 15 (EACH WAY)

Saint SacreSP
Win or Each Way, 1/5 odds - places 1,2,3
15:45 Lyon-Parilly

RiquetSP
Win or Each Way, 1/5 odds - places 1,2,3
16:20 Lyon-Parilly
16:20, Today

Lisard ZaraSP
Win or Each Way, 1/5 odds - places 1,2,3
17:30 Lyon-Parilly
17:30, Today

L'IndomptableSP
Win or Each Way, 1/5 odds - places 1,2,3
19:00 Lyon-Parilly

 

[geordiecolin]

Wow. 2 profitable days in a row. Now I've probably jinxed myself!

Lucky 15 EW Newmarket

150 Total commitment
300 Lord Tennyson
410 Edinburgh Castle
555 Silent Echo

Single free bet
225 Oxted

Single EW free bet
500 Englishman

Lucky 15 EW Lingfield

205 Corvair
240 Lake Lucerne
350 Crimewave
425 Silver Dust

Good luck with your bets

 

[paul7388]

Wow. 2 profitable days in a row. Now I've probably jinxed myself!

Lucky 15 EW Newmarket

150 Total commitment
300 Lord Tennyson
410 Edinburgh Castle
555 Silent Echo

Single free bet
225 Oxted

Single EW free bet
500 Englishman

Lucky 15 EW Lingfield

205 Corvair
240 Lake Lucerne
350 Crimewave
425 Silver Dust

Good luck with your bets

Good luck with your bets.

I did the same horse as you with my free bet so hope you aren't jinxed lol.

Not even looked at horses yet been busy pissing about on football this morning and done okay so withdrew most there from Coral's and will put a bet on with what's left.

Edit. Don't really fancy much from today's racing so just did a lucky 15 on these 4. Not expected any winners lol.



Swindler9/4
Win or Each Way
13:50 Newmarket
13:50, Today
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Lord Tennyson9/2
Win or Each Way
15:00 Newmarket
15:00, Today
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Stradivarius7/2
Win or Each Way
15:35 Newmarket
15:35, Today
WATCH LIVE

Pure Beauty3/1
Win or Each Way
13:15 Newmarket
13:15, Toda

 

[paul7388]

Oh well nice to actually start with a 9/2 winner so they won't all lose

 

[geordiecolin]

Good luck with your bets.

I did the same horse as you with my free bet so hope you aren't jinxed lol.

Not even looked at horses yet been busy pissing about on football this morning and done okay so withdrew most there from Coral's and will put a bet on with what's left.

Edit. Don't really fancy much from today's racing so just did a lucky 15 on these 4. Not expected any winners lol.



Swindler9/4
Win or Each Way
13:50 Newmarket
13:50, Today
WATCH LIVE

Lord Tennyson9/2
Win or Each Way
15:00 Newmarket
15:00, Today
WATCH LIVE

Stradivarius7/2
Win or Each Way
15:35 Newmarket
15:35, Today
WATCH LIVE

Pure Beauty3/1
Win or Each Way
13:15 Newmarket
13:15, Toda

Stradivarius is one of my fave gee gees of recent years and I considered him for today because I think he will go close.

That reminds me.
Years ago I was clearing out our loft in a very old house and I found a painting and an old Violin. Thinking they must be worth something I took them to get valued. The guy told us that one was a Van Gogh and the other a Stradivarius.
We where jumping around the room.
" Unfortunately Van Gogh was no much good at making violins and Stradivarius could not paint to save his life"

 

[colinsunderland]

Didn't have time to look at the racing properly so just did 4 of Baldings in a lucky 15

 

[geordiecolin]

Didn't have time to look at the racing properly so just did 4 of Baldings in a lucky 15

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We both seem to have our EW bets live. Good luck in your last Col.
Lucky 15 EW Newmarket
Mine are
150 Total commitment 18/1
300 Lord Tennyson 6/1
410 Edinburgh Castle 7/1
555 Silent Echo @ 7/2

My single bet Oxted won @ 7/2 with my free £5 at PP and the other single was a none runner

 

[colinsunderland]

We both seem to have our EW bets live. Good luck in your last Col.
Lucky 15 EW Newmarket
Mine are
150 Total commitment 18/1
300 Lord Tennyson 6/1
410 Edinburgh Castle 7/1
555 Silent Echo @ 7/2

My single bet Oxted won @ 7/2 with my free £5 at PP and the other single was a none runner

except for some reason I did win not EW lol, it was meant to be EW but I forgot to click the box ffs. Too busy looking for a trampoline for Ellie's birthday next week

 

[geordiecolin]

except for some reason I did win not EW lol, it was meant to be EW but I forgot to click the box ffs. Too busy looking for a trampoline for Ellie's birthday next week

With the wind and hail about an hour ago you could have just walked down the street and picked one up from the road for free!

 

[colinsunderland]

With the wind and hail about an hour ago you could have just walked down the street and picked one up from the road for free!

haven't had wind or hail here, but had quite heavy rain for an hour, still quite warm though

 

[geordiecolin]

haven't had wind or hail here, but had quite heavy rain for an hour, still quite warm though

I'm only a few miles away and its been hailing and for a while really windy. Hail was battering the windows

 

[geordiecolin]

We both seem to have our EW bets live. Good luck in your last Col.
Lucky 15 EW Newmarket
Mine are
150 Total commitment 18/1
300 Lord Tennyson 6/1
410 Edinburgh Castle 7/1
555 Silent Echo @ 7/2

My single bet Oxted won @ 7/2 with my free £5 at PP and the other single was a none runner

Boom I may stick a few small bets on the american gee gees

 

[geordiecolin]

Even I think that I've no chance with my selections at Newmarket today!

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And my first free £2 bet at PP is Count DOrsay @7/1 ew in the 1.15 followed by 150 Moss Gill EW, 225 Magic Lilly EW 300 Punctuation EW and then 335 Arizona EW

Then

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[geordiecolin]

Then at Lingers this evening


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