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New Slot Announcement Here it is! BTG's Holy Diver slot!

trancemonkey said:
This is what you said... You said it randomly allocates the spins that pay. But that simply isn't what it will be doing. This is why I replied the way I did because I thought You meant it was picking a total an paying it.

You did also state the "end result must be predetermined" but that's also not necessarily true.

The thing is, all these suggestions of what goes on... they are mostly far more complex than what actually happens.
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I said once the spins are awarded it randomly picks what the spins will pay out not every individual spin. And that once you start the spins the end result was known . Which you called me out on and made it look like i was totally stupid. Then you made this reply
trancemonkey said:
Some providers determine the outcome of all the free games at the point they are won...yes.
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Which is same as i said. Anyway i said i was done so i am.
 
paul7388 said:
I said once the spins are awarded it randomly picks what the spins will pay out not every individual spin. And that once you start the spins the end result was known . Which you called me out on and made it look like i was totally stupid. Then you made this reply

Which is same as i said. Anyway i said i was done so i am.
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It randomly picks each individual spin.
 
Me and Trance are still due that mano-a-mano duel at the MM

I suggested it but I believe he ran off like a girl :mad:

Fear not CMers, I will exact justice this time round.

Using my partner as a 'buffer', if you will :eek::p
 
goatwack said:
Me and Trance are still due that mano-a-mano duel at the MM

I suggested it but I believe he ran off like a girl :mad:

Fear not CMers, I will exact justice this time round.

Using my partner as a 'buffer', if you will :eek::p
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well gosh goaty, when your choice of weapons was 'swords' but venue was naked mud wrestling pit, what did ya expect :P :P
 
trancemonkey said:
However, on Extra Chilli the game has no idea if you will gamble or not. You COULD gamble and lose... So say You are right and it was going to pay you 100x... what happens to that? Compensation is illegal (I've posted a link to the regulations in other threads but it's easy to find in the Remote Technical Standards) so where does that money go?
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If the RNG decides to give you a 112x win. Ok, you gamble all the way to 24 spins and they play out the pre-determined result of 112x. I one does not gamble and decides to take 8 spins, same result 112x. Sometimes features pay f all, so how would that work out? If one chooses to gamble he would lose of course at some point and if player decides to take 8-12 spins, then those spins would be dead. And usually there is some small win when feature is triggered, the feature can be just eye candy.
 
Broke said:
If the RNG decides to give you a 112x win. Ok, you gamble all the way to 24 spins and they play out the pre-determined result of 112x. I one does not gamble and decides to take 8 spins, same result 112x. Sometimes features pay f all, so how would that work out? If one chooses to gamble he would lose of course at some point and if player decides to take 8-12 spins, then those spins would be dead. And usually there is some small win when feature is triggered, the feature can be just eye candy.
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You've missed the entire point..

1. What you're saying is way more complex than just letting a game run randomly.
2. If the game knew up front that it wanted to pay 100x, and the gamble was eye candy, then this would fail compliance.
3. I appreciate that unless you've done slot game maths, you don't understand how it's easier to do real maths than to cheat like you say
4. Why do you think games would cheat a result rather than being real maths?
 
adamtheaddict said:
Since the offer is open to all, i'll see if i can make a brief apperance at the MM so i can sit infront of trance, point at him and call him an arse. as long as the queue isn't too long ;)
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Take a ticket and get in line :)
 
lockinlove said:
One thing most can agree on they are very good with their graphics and game ideas. Guess I will have to wait til 2080 to try it when OLG grows up a bit and starts acting like humans with a fully developed brain.
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I agree on the very good game ideas part, but I've always found their games look outdated in terms of graphics, but maybe that's just me :)
 
Broke said:
If the RNG decides to give you a 112x win. Ok, you gamble all the way to 24 spins and they play out the pre-determined result of 112x. I one does not gamble and decides to take 8 spins, same result 112x. Sometimes features pay f all, so how would that work out? If one chooses to gamble he would lose of course at some point and if player decides to take 8-12 spins, then those spins would be dead. And usually there is some small win when feature is triggered, the feature can be just eye candy.
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What I love about these crackpot theories is the conspiracy theorist is so sure they're right they don't even feel the need to do the most rudimentary research or testing to prove their case.

For eg; you could prove your theory by recording results from extra chilli features 8 through 24 spins and if there's no correlation between the number of spins and the final result from a decent sample you would be proven correct.
 
I have to say I loved it. Over 80,000 spins, over 5 days. Average to get level 3 bonus: 80x bet and 450 spins.
Best bonus on level 2, almost 2500x. Some pics from that bonus

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So you don't have to go to level 3 for huge wins.
The big fun usually starts with the 2nd retrigger (+8), you see the over 100k ways all the time there. :)
 
I get it that you mostly care about your balance.
Well it can maintain your balance at +- 50x bet for a day of non stop play!
It can get you up to 6,000x from a 100x bet deposit in a day. And you can have a bad weekend that will drop you down 2.500x bet.

So the fact that you may choose to wait for a level 3 bonus, only makes the game more volatile. It doesn't necessarily cost anything. Playtime is actually amazing in this.
Base game 30x-300x wins are relatively frequent and 4 over 1000x wins over 80,000 spins is a big win frequency better than DoA!

What you pay for that is a lot of 20x bonus on level 3. But as I said, you don't really need to wait to get there.
Retriggers as you expect are very rare, but I don't think that level 3 takes more time to complete on average.
 
Some thoughts about this Game as i also had the pleasure to be able to play it early:

- The Chests can actually give you 4 Diamonds. I've had it happen once to get an immediate Level 2 Bonus after just unlocking the Level one and passing on it.
(3/2 Diamonds are obviously possible aswell, have had that happen a couple more times.)

- Retriggers do, as @nikantw said, pretty much make or break the Bonus. Dont expect great returns without getting one -- and they do seem quite hard to get. I dont think any of us during the promotion have gotten more than 2 Retriggers though i might be wrong in saying that.

- Dont expect too much off of the Level 3 Bonus. It can cost you a pretty penny to get (spent more than 250x to get one, that was the worst run for them i think) just to get 17.7x returned to me.

- Im guessing the biggest Basegame potential is when you get all the (basegame) ways + a chest either changing a common symbol into wilds (9,10..) or ideally getting one of the diamonds -- perhaps even 4. ;)

- All the ways without an chest dont pay great in this game -- at least they didn't for me.

- I felt like i got all the ways just 1 step before a chest rather often. But then again, it's probably Tinfoil Hattery at its finest since you are always kinda close to a Chest so take that for what you will. :laugh:
 
NeverLucky said:
Some thoughts about this Game as i also had the pleasure to be able to play it early:

- The Chests can actually give you 4 Diamonds. I've had it happen once to get an immediate Level 2 Bonus after just unlocking the Level one and passing on it.
(3/2 Diamonds are obviously possible aswell, have had that happen a couple more times.)

- Retriggers do, as @nikantw said, pretty much make or break the Bonus. Dont expect great returns without getting one -- and they do seem quite hard to get. I dont think any of us during the promotion have gotten more than 2 Retriggers though i might be wrong in saying that.

- Dont expect too much off of the Level 3 Bonus. It can cost you a pretty penny to get (spent more than 250x to get one, that was the worst run for them i think) just to get 17.7x returned to me.

- Im guessing the biggest Basegame potential is when you get all the (basegame) ways + a chest either changing a common symbol into wilds (9,10..) or ideally getting one of the diamonds -- perhaps even 4. ;)

- All the ways without an chest dont pay great in this game -- at least they didn't for me.

- I felt like i got all the ways just 1 step before a chest rather often. But then again, it's probably Tinfoil Hattery at its finest since you are always kinda close to a Chest so take that for what you will. :laugh:
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Not according to the rules! They specify 1-3. Weird.

EDIT - scrub that, you're actually correct it does award up to 4! Good spot! It makes it even more exciting.
 
NeverLucky said:
Huh, im almost certain it happened unless i missed a diamond shortly before i guess :confused:
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Sorry, edited my post a couple of minutes before you just posted this....:thumbsup:

I had the gems confused with 1-3 WILD MULTIPLIER REELS d'oh!
 
With base game wins close to 2,000x like this, who needs the bonus, right? ;)
It is really beautiful, all the big wins are in the gems / x3 wilds

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Now imagine some purple ones in reels 1 and 6....
Another reason I posted this (don't know if it has been mentioned) is to show how the wilds work.
You see, they add ways to the reel instead of multiplying the win. So it goes 1 x (3+1) x 3 x (3+3) x 3 x 1 = 216 ways
 
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I had quite a different experience I'm afraid. I still loved being able to play it, but my 3 x $200 deposits were gone in no time. My biggest win was 107x in the base game, biggest bonus win was about 60-oddX I think. I had quite a few bonuses with the best generally being level 2. My level 3 bonuses were appalling. I never once got a retrigger, mind.

I will play it when it comes out, but I'll tread very carefully
 
SteveBr said:
I had quite a different experience I'm afraid. I still loved being able to play it, but my 3 x $200 deposits were gone in no time. My biggest win was 107x in the base game, biggest bonus win was about 60-oddX I think. I had quite a few bonuses with the best generally being level 2. My level 3 bonuses were appalling. I never once got a retrigger, mind.

I will play it when it comes out, but I'll tread very carefully
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To be fair i've had the same experience on days one and two as you did :D
Didnt manage to get any retriggers at all (i think or the ones i got were quite unmemorable) and bonuses didn't want to pay - while normally, the basegame tends to hold your balance relatively steady, you can of course also get bad runs on it. Doesn't help when it seems like you need forever to gather the diamonds for a Bonus.
 
To me it looks like a save your bonus till lvl 3 hoping for a few big wins in between to keep the balance up, I will give it a blast on minimum stake for a while and see how long I take to get lvl 3 ie number of spins, amount deposited each time and final return good thing I play at vs for the rtp sheet. Take it kimi is doing the first play on stream again?
 
Scott1baird said:
To me it looks like a save your bonus till lvl 3 hoping for a few big wins in between to keep the balance up, I will give it a blast on minimum stake for a while and see how long I take to get lvl 3 ie number of spins, amount deposited each time and final return good thing I play at vs for the rtp sheet. Take it kimi is doing the first play on stream again?
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Its up to you how you play it. I had best bonus on level 2, almost 2500x and potential for much more.
Others could be completely happy to stay on level 1.

As for Kim.... probably ;)
 
I don’t play at Leo Vegas much at all as they don’t have the bulk of games I like. Not 100% sure it’s a good move to have a slot released exclusively to one casino as when recent btg games have been released after reading all the negatives posted I don’t bother playing it much because I kind of know what’s coming. Just a thought.
 
Big Time Gaming said:
Yes McG, will be both Leo Vegas and Royal Panda from next Wednesday!
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Superb, you set up a ‘mega win’ for 18,000x that a certain streamer will get live or ‘random viewer video’ someone sends in?..
just joking...
sure it’ll be excellent and the hyper win section on this forum will be littered with massive wins from this slot ;-)
 

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