New Slot Announcement Here it is! BTG's Holy Diver slot!

Not as far as i can see:
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The list appears to be much larger for us UK players

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1429 Uncharted Seas, Blood Suckers, Supernova, Simsalabim and Devils Delight.

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Although Wild swarm isn't listed. It will probably still be covered by the standard...
'progressing through a game, whilst using a bonus... blah blah blah.....'
 
Holy Diver isn't a guaranteed cheat though - if you get it to 2 gems intending to get 3 and then leave it, you could easily drop both in from one chest then ruin your evil little plan.....:eek:

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Holy Diver isn't a guaranteed cheat though - if you get it to 2 gems intending to get 3 and then leave it, you could easily drop both in from one chest then ruin you evil little plan.....:eek:
None of them are guaranteed cheats though, you could collect items in any game, using bonus fund, then play with cash and get a shit bonus round, paying less than that final item cost to get
 
The list appears to be much larger for us UK players

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1429 Uncharted Seas, Blood Suckers, Supernova, Simsalabim and Devils Delight.

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Forsaken Kingdom, Pearls of India, Kings of Chicago, Zombies and Robin Hood - Shifting Riches and Wishmaster, 3 card Hold em, 5x Magic, 7 Piggies, 8 Dragons, Alien Robots, American Blackjack, Big Bang, Bugs Party, Cash Splash 5 Reel, Cheshire Cat, Chibeasties 2, Chicago, Creature from the black lagoon, Crystal Ball, Dead or Alive, Dragon Drop, Egyptian Heroes, European Blackjack Redeal Gold, Faust, Flame of Fortune, Fortunes of Sparta, Fruit Case, Fruitinator, Gold Cup, Gold of Persia, Golden Caravan, Golden Legend, Hercules Son of Zeus, Jackpot 6000, Jackpot 6000 HTML, Jester Spins, Jewel in the crown, Joker 10000 Deluxe, Jungle Spirit, Katana, King of Slots, Kings of Chicago, La Dolce Vita, Lady of Egypt, Leprechaun Goes to Hell, Lost Island, Lost Relics, Lucky Wizard, Magic Mirror, Magic Mirror Deluxe, Medusa II, Meet the Meerkats, Mr. Holmes & the Stolen Stones, Multifruit 81, Pharaoh's Ring, Pixie Wings, Railroad, Reef Run, Reel Steal, River Queen, Sweet 27, Valley of the Gods, Vampires, Vampires: The Masquerade, Wild Rockets, Wild Turkey.

Although Wild swarm isn't listed. It will probably still be covered by the standard...
'progressing through a game, whilst using a bonus... blah blah blah.....'
That is quite a bit larger :eek2:
 
Holy Diver isn't a guaranteed cheat though - if you get it to 2 gems intending to get 3 and then leave it, you could easily drop both in from one chest then ruin you evil little plan.....:eek:

Actually, that got me thinking..
What would your situation be, as an affiliate, if a player had a big win confiscated?
Would you get paid, the same amount as if they'd lost their deposit?
Or because the funds would be removed 'manually' during the withdrawal process, and all the game play logs accounts, etc would still show that big win.
Would your commission still reflect the big win?
 
Actually, that got me thinking..
What would your situation be, as an affiliate, if a player had a big win confiscated?
Would you get paid, the same amount as if they'd lost their deposit?
Or because the funds would be removed 'manually' during the withdrawal process, and all the game play logs accounts, etc would still show that big win.
Would your commission still reflect the big win?


I would hope the aff programme behaved honourably and adjusted his play to reflect what actually happened, i.e. the relation of how much deposited to how much withdrawn. They should do as that's how the data collection works. Most programmes report stats every 12 or 24 hours via information from the casino and that particular player's number would have at the end of the month either a positive or negative earnings balance. That balance should take into account all transactions, bonuses and adjustments.

Of course that doesn't take into account bent management behind the scenes that de-tag your profitable players, tag big winners to your account to neutralize commission you've earned off the rest and so-on. Yes, it's happened before.
 
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None of them are guaranteed cheats though, you could collect items in any game, using bonus fund, then play with cash and get a shit bonus round, paying less than that final item cost to get

Possibly, but over time across the board it would give an overall player advantage, relating to the average bonus round yield of the game in question.
 
First try, on this.

Been playing for the last hour or so on min bet.

Took 100 spins to get to level one, another 200 to get to level 2.

The took 600+ to get to level 3.

My balance had dropped 300x and was thinking, wish I had took the bonus earlier, when it spun it a 1237X on the base game.

Not sure what I had, but it was 768 ways

Missed the screen shot GRRRR.

Anyway has given me the last gem on the next spin. Gonna open a beer before I play it.

Edit. feature paid 69.8X with +3 spins
 
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I am quite happy banging this out on 10p spins to get my slot fix haha.
Played it at Royal Panda this morning, my account is in USD there.
Its been quite quick giving me the gems, but still not had more than 1 gem at a time or a retrigger.
Got this base hit and the 2nd level trigger.
Carried on for level 3 and it gave me a 90x base hit and quite quickly went to level 3 bonus but only paid 62x.
Carried on to get a level 2 bonus, cleared level 1 quickly, then......
Got level 2 first gem quick, took around 100 spins to get next gem but then gave the third on the next chest.
Then it took over 300 spins to get the last gem.
Paid 16x lol.
Always seems to take 5 of the spins to get my first extra spin, never even got 1 off the retrigger yet, usually just get 2 or 3 extra spins.

Screenies of that base hit.
For some reason its says 0 in the win on the second screenshot but it shows in the first at just under 400x

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diver1.webp
 
So for what it is worth. Not a fan of this slot at all. Impossible to get a retrigger. Takes forever to collect the 4 gems for each level.

I played it for around 2 and half hours in real @LeoVegas today, And I can say that the base game is boring as hell. Sooooooooo many dead spins and tiny wins just not fun what so ever.
This slot certainly could have been made more fun than what it is. But BTG just choose to keep making dull games. The music in the free spins is decent, but other than that, it is nothing special. Average feature trigger to get 4 gems each level was around 200 spins. So it was taking me like 600spins on average to trigger level 3 spins, lowest win from spins was 11X, highest win from spins was 83X. So all in all, I will probably avoid this slot.

Yes so what it may have some potential but that potential only comes when you are in level 3 freespins and get multiple retriggers. To which I could not even get 1 +8 retrigger. So yeah I will be avoiding this dull slot, Sorry BTG, Must try harder.............................
 
So for what it is worth. Not a fan of this slot at all. Impossible to get a retrigger. Takes forever to collect the 4 gems for each level.

I played it for around 2 and half hours in real @LeoVegas today, And I can say that the base game is boring as hell. Sooooooooo many dead spins and tiny wins just not fun what so ever.
This slot certainly could have been made more fun than what it is. But BTG just choose to keep making dull games. The music in the free spins is decent, but other than that, it is nothing special. Average feature trigger to get 4 gems each level was around 200 spins. So it was taking me like 600spins on average to trigger level 3 spins, lowest win from spins was 11X, highest win from spins was 83X. So all in all, I will probably avoid this slot.

Yes so what it may have some potential but that potential only comes when you are in level 3 freespins and get multiple retriggers. To which I could not even get 1 +8 retrigger. So yeah I will be avoiding this dull slot, Sorry BTG, Must try harder.............................
The retrigger is indeed very hard to get, dont think i've managed more than 1 retrigger during my play on demo mode.. Unfortunately, its massively important aswell :D
 
Played it last night on LV.
Spent 2 deposits of €100.00 on €0.60 bets and it did cost me €130.00 odd Euro to trigger level 3 bonus which paid trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 15.3x bet.
Takes too long too grind it out to level 3 and indeed the base game is not really good.
Highest win was around 30x.

Meh,had higher hopes and after a while the slot gets boring already.

Will probably keep playing it in my sessions but won't strive for level 3 all the time.
Think had 6 or 7 dead spins in my level 3 free spins.
 
I concur with what others have said as well :) BTG, please go back to the drawing board and try harder next time. Please do not make the new DHV2 slot the same boring dullness. Make something that will be entertaining. Extra base game features etc etc............. You tried and failed with white rabbit with the smoke blow wild base game feature that was a total pointless addition. Please add loads of base game features like blueprint have on their slots. Even the new Megaway blueprint slots have extra base game features? So why on earth dont you go down that route too?

Oh I know why, because you want to make dull boring games :P :(
 
Nothing new. Another
Holy Rigged slot from BTG

Just check The Bandit's game play. He lost £7,400!!

 
Nothing new. Another
Holy Rigged slot from BTG

Just check The Bandit's game play. He lost £7,400!!



Yeah he lost 7.4K ..While playing on maximum bet of £20 per spin.

What did you expect? You can lose that much money in any slot in a blink of an eye at £20 a spin.

Not defending the game tho. haven't played it, but after seeing others play it I doubt I will even play it. I don't have the bankroll to chase a lv3 bonus especially considering it's going to pay like 10x if I don't get a retrigger.
 
Yeah he lost 7.4K ..While playing on maximum bet of £20 per spin.

What did you expect? You can lose that much money in any slot in a blink of an eye at £20 a spin.

Not defending the game tho. haven't played it, but after seeing others play it I doubt I will even play it. I don't have the bankroll to chase a lv3 bonus especially considering it's going to pay like 10x if I don't get a retrigger.

I really like the bandit. A good and honest guy.
I do however think you’re right about stake size....Now if I came on and said I had lost £37 trying to reach level 3 on 10p spins it wouldn’t sound such a massive loss. (Using the exact win/lose ratio).

Incidentally, last night I figured out the purpose of this game. It was actually designed as an anti gambling tool for insomniacs.
If anyone is ever struggling to slow down and get some shut eye then grab a comfy spot and manually spin this slot up through the levels.
I can guarantee you won’t know what you won till morning as tour will have drifted off into a beautiful sleep.
 
It’s nearly the amount I have just had to pay for my 5% deposit for a house (have been saving for a LONG time)
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im still saving for the 25% for mine
id be stoked i could get away with 5
 
I really like the bandit. A good and honest guy.
I do however think you’re right about stake size....Now if I came on and said I had lost £37 trying to reach level 3 on 10p spins it wouldn’t sound such a massive loss. (Using the exact win/lose ratio).

Incidentally, last night I figured out the purpose of this game. It was actually designed as an anti gambling tool for insomniacs.
If anyone is ever struggling to slow down and get some shut eye then grab a comfy spot and manually spin this slot up through the levels.
I can guarantee you won’t know what you won till morning as tour will have drifted off into a beautiful sleep.

Thats the thing, it's all just relative.

7.4K loss sounds awful, cue the rigged brigade. But like you say, only £37 in the real world and pretty normal for a HV game.

I was around that much down yesterday, was just lucky to hit a decent base game hit, as the level 3 feature was poor.

I think a lot of people are going to tilt on this slot. Get past level 2 (if you don't collect) and you have to carry on till the end. Took me 600+ spins to trigger from 2-3. Imagine how many people will be trying to find another deposit, from where ever, if they bust out beforehand

It's a clever design, but awful in regards to responsible gaming.
 
Tried it myself this evening, only on smallish stakes.
Frankly bored me to tears. But had to try it, I’ll not bother again.
With regards to relativity, the bandit moans when he says (lost x amount of my stake, the games ripping me)
When I’m reality the guys hardly touched 60 spins, the reason he’s lost so much is the fact the spins are well above the norm for real players. 50 spins at £4 is £200... so yes it will eat you balance.
 
Tried it myself this evening, only on smallish stakes.
Frankly bored me to tears. But had to try it, I’ll not bother again.
With regards to relativity, the bandit moans when he says (lost x amount of my stake, the games ripping me)
When I’m reality the guys hardly touched 60 spins, the reason he’s lost so much is the fact the spins are well above the norm for real players. 50 spins at £4 is £200... so yes it will eat you balance.

I presume you mean 600
 
[QUOTE="Supababe, post: 981261, member: 41889"]I really like the bandit. A good and honest guy.
I do however think you’re right about stake size....Now if I came on and said I had lost £37 trying to reach level 3 on 10p spins it wouldn’t sound such a massive loss. (Using the exact win/lose ratio).

Incidentally, last night I figured out the purpose of this game. It was actually designed as an anti gambling tool for insomniacs.
If anyone is ever struggling to slow down and get some shut eye then grab a comfy spot and manually spin this slot up through the levels.
I can guarantee you won’t know what you won till morning as tour will have drifted off into a beautiful sleep.[/QUOTE]

This is true tbh. I saw this guy on FB recently offer to lend a guy 1k, a guy who he has never met but he has known via of through the particular community for a long time. A guy who was jokingly asking for a loan when he saw the bandits reel king big hit before xmas posted on fb, jokingly asking for a few hundred because he ended up f***** during the xmas period after a drunken tilt session on land based random games (a guy who otherwise makes regular decent consistant profit from compensated pub fruits, but required a roll to continue to do so and was also quite short of making his kids christmas as special as otherwise would normally would be.
It was pretty epic tbh, the guy was able to make sure his kids had the xmas they usually had with most of the money being spent on them, and he used the rest to get his bankroll back on track via playing compensated games he knows how to play . I did consider askin to borrow £13.50 for some amber leaf at the time.

R3spect.


Also favoplayer - thanks for the vid 'cause i just cba to try demo mode on it, but wanted to see it play. Forgetting the stakes, what a load of shite this game is imo. I cant recall his biggest xbet win in the basegame (30x?..) but for the playtime it took, that looks pretty bad when compared to the resullts of the lvl2 and lvl3 bonus rounds. Will await the big massive screenies so my assumption can be made to look foolish ofc and that humble old pie can be rammed down my throat by someones foot ;)
 
[QUOTE="Supababe, post: 981261, member: 41889"]I really like the bandit. A good and honest guy.
I do however think you’re right about stake size....Now if I came on and said I had lost £37 trying to reach level 3 on 10p spins it wouldn’t sound such a massive loss. (Using the exact win/lose ratio).

Incidentally, last night I figured out the purpose of this game. It was actually designed as an anti gambling tool for insomniacs.
If anyone is ever struggling to slow down and get some shut eye then grab a comfy spot and manually spin this slot up through the levels.
I can guarantee you won’t know what you won till morning as tour will have drifted off into a beautiful sleep.

This is true tbh. I saw this guy on FB recently offer to lend a guy 1k, a guy who he has never met but he has known via of through the particular community for a long time. A guy who was jokingly asking for a loan when he saw the bandits reel king big hit before xmas posted on fb, jokingly asking for a few hundred because he ended up f***** during the xmas period after a drunken tilt session on land based random games (a guy who otherwise makes regular decent consistant profit from compensated pub fruits, but required a roll to continue to do so and was also quite short of making his kids christmas as special as otherwise would normally would be.
It was pretty epic tbh, the guy was able to make sure his kids had the xmas they usually had with most of the money being spent on them, and he used the rest to get his bankroll back on track via playing compensated games he knows how to play . I did consider askin to borrow £13.50 for some amber leaf at the time.

R3spect.


Also favoplayer - thanks for the vid 'cause i just cba to try demo mode on it, but wanted to see it play. Forgetting the stakes, what a load of shite this game is imo. I cant recall his biggest xbet win in the basegame (30x?..) but for the playtime it took, that looks pretty bad when compared to the resullts of the lvl2 and lvl3 bonus rounds. Will await the big massive screenies so my assumption can be made to look foolish ofc and that humble old pie can be rammed down my throat by someones foot ;)[/QUOTE]
What’s that about lol
 
:eek2:
im still saving for the 25% for mine
id be stoked i could get away with 5

We moan about our government but they currently run a ‘help to buy’ scheme where, as long as it’s a new build, they lend 20% to go with our 5%. Then you can either pay them back when it is financially possible or when the house is sold and they ask for 20% repayment.... if that makes sense....
 
We moan about our government but they currently run a ‘help to buy’ scheme where, as long as it’s a new build, they lend 20% to go with our 5%. Then you can either pay them back when it is financially possible or when the house is sold and they ask for 20% repayment.... if that makes sense....
sweet
 
@Playford7 Just seen some digs at him b4. Didn't even realize i was joined to a group on fb that he also was, where 1 or 2 ppl there also suspected he was not playing with legit funds.
Thought it was a pretty kind thing to do for someone he has never met other than online is all.

(I'd of bet my house you were having a few well earnt glasses yourself on a fri nigh, considering the hard work your job requires. my short term memory is blasted but not the long term! ;) )
 
This is true tbh. I saw this guy on FB recently offer to lend a guy 1k, a guy who he has never met but he has known via of through the particular community for a long time.

He also gives quite a bit to charity when he gets a good hit. He teamed up with @JGslots not long ago and with a joint pot played aiming to get to the top gamble on reel king. Somehow they switched to chilli (I think???), had a great hit and both nominated a charity to donate a nice amount to. Done live on stream. So I wish him well and wish him extra good luck.

He can take comfort in the fact that it has probably saved many others from risking playing this HV game. VS chat is full of conversations from those who have seen the video talking about how dangerous the game is.
 
@Playford7 Just seen some digs at him b4. Didn't even realize i was joined to a group on fb that he also was, where 1 or 2 ppl there also suspected he was not playing with legit funds.
Thought it was a pretty kind thing to do for someone he has never met other than online is all.

(I'd of bet my house you were having a few well earnt glasses yourself on a fri nigh, considering the hard work your job requires. my short term memory is blasted but not the long term! ;) )
You would have to be dead from the neck up to think he plays with fake money.
In all honesty I don’t give a shit about any so called streamers.
Each to there own.
Don’t agree with it, but that horse ran a long time ago.
 
Yeah he lost 7.4K ..While playing on maximum bet of £20 per spin.

What did you expect? You can lose that much money in any slot in a blink of an eye at £20 a spin.

Not defending the game tho. haven't played it, but after seeing others play it I doubt I will even play it. I don't have the bankroll to chase a lv3 bonus especially considering it's going to pay like 10x if I don't get a retrigger.


It's not about how much he lost but about how awful was the return. 15x win total on a level 3 bonus? What the hell? I defended BTG in the past but I won't defend this one.

The concept that you need to play longer to win more is really bad. This is a form of "investment" and nothing more than an evolved version of compensated slots.
 
I really like the bandit. A good and honest guy.
I do however think you’re right about stake size....Now if I came on and said I had lost £37 trying to reach level 3 on 10p spins it wouldn’t sound such a massive loss. (Using the exact win/lose ratio).

Incidentally, last night I figured out the purpose of this game. It was actually designed as an anti gambling tool for insomniacs.
If anyone is ever struggling to slow down and get some shut eye then grab a comfy spot and manually spin this slot up through the levels.
I can guarantee you won’t know what you won till morning as tour will have drifted off into a beautiful sleep.
Nothing new. Another
Holy Rigged slot from BTG

Just check The Bandit's game play. He lost £7,400!!



Yeah he lost 7.4K ..While playing on maximum bet of £20 per spin.

What did you expect? You can lose that much money in any slot in a blink of an eye at £20 a spin.

Not defending the game tho. haven't played it, but after seeing others play it I doubt I will even play it. I don't have the bankroll to chase a lv3 bonus especially considering it's going to pay like 10x if I don't get a retrigger.

I lost just over 12K in one day playing Bonanza with $20 bets and another time about 20K in one day playing Loaded on $25-$50 bets (recovered this time over 10K the next day with max $25 bets)

You will lose similar amounts on other slots too if you play max bets and catch the slot on a rainy day. You play high bets, you run the risk of losing a ton, simples.
 
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It's not about how much he lost but about how awful was the return. 15x win total on a level 3 bonus? What the hell? I defended BTG in the past but I won't defend this one.

The concept that you need to play longer to win more is really bad. This is a form of "investment" and nothing more than an evolved version of compensated slots.

Level 3 is the most volatile round, hence you will see DOA results - many 5x to 30x bet, few 100+ x bet but also really big ones.

Personally, I would stick mostly to level two as the kicker in the free spins is not just the multiplier but also the re-trigger as that increases the ways to win.
 
Level 3 is the most volatile round, hence you will see DOA results - many 5x to 30x bet, few 100+ x bet but also really big ones.

That'd be a ripoff if true.

Since it requires 3x more base game grinding to acquire than level 1, we have to assume that it has triple the RTP of level 1. So while playing for level 3 is "a more volatile" way to play the game the bonus itself isn't more volatile than any other level, it has a higher RTP.
 
That'd be a ripoff if true.

Since it requires 3x more base game grinding to acquire than level 1, we have to assume that it has triple the RTP of level 1. So while playing for level 3 is "a more volatile" way to play the game the bonus itself isn't more volatile than any other level, it has a higher RTP.

Volatile in such that if you do not land gem wilds with x3 on reels 2 to 5 it will not pay more, but if they fall in then it is going to pay big, especially after retriggers. And yes, that you put more money into it to reach level 3 is making it more volatile as you will have to recover more of your losses from the free spins.

Surely level 3 has more RTP attributed, no doubt about that.

LEVEL 3 has actually a similar hit rate like Bonanza, on average 1:450 spins to trigger it. Hence, you do not have to grind more than on Bonanza. And we all know how awful the free spins can pay on that one, don't we? IMO, level 1 is in essence just like a good hit in the base game.
 
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Just had my first ever 3 sword wild reels.
With a x5 x6 x5
And I won.....
Fuck all
Wilds were on reels 2,4 and 5

They can be bloody frustrating. To counter this though I got a similar setup and it kicked in something like a 320x win. Needs to occasionally because the amount of times it sticks in pointless ones does try your patience.

Edit: Also took me around 600 spins and lost just over 300x to get to level 2 so it bloody owed me this!
 
They can be bloody frustrating. To counter this though I got a similar setup and it kicked in something like a 320x win. Needs to occasionally because the amount of times it sticks in pointless ones does try your patience.

Edit: Also took me around 600 spins and lost just over 300x to get to level 2 so it bloody owed me this!

Whats striking me about this thread is that despite the fanfair and usual shiny BTG “potential” - and the masses of people playing this new release - look at the paltry win involved people are getting. 200 - 300 x for a progressive level 3 you have to work towards. Biggest ive seen so far on youtube just now is 550x.

Big woop.

If this were the new Red Tiger ninja game, Book of Dead or even Reactoonz we would have had multiple 1000x screenshots by now. Goes to show BTG - make some friends in the industry and prey they get a single recorded screenshot/footage ASAP of a rare big win they can share.
 
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Whats striking me about this thread is that despite the fanfair and usual shiny BTG “potential” - and the masses of people playing this new release - look at the paltry win involved people are getting. 200 - 300 x for a progressive level 3 you have to work towards. Biggest ive seen so far on youtube just now is 550x.

Big whoop.

If this were the new Red Tiger ninja game, Book of Dead or even Reactoonz we would have had multiple 1000x screenshots by now. Goes to show BTG - make some friends in the industry and prey they get a single recorded screenshot/footage ASAP of a rare big win they can share.

And another point is that, unlike this turgid outing, the (for example) latest Red Tiger game is actually amusing to play. I’m convinced HD is going to send me into a coma.
 
And another point is that, unlike this turgid outing, the (for example) latest Red Tiger game is actually amusing to play. I’m convinced HD is going to send me into a coma.

This is a typical low to mid variance BTG game with a progressive chanced big win mechanism. Much like Bonanza. Give it a week and someone somewhere will hit a 2000x win, que BTG can crack open the champagne and slap themselves on the back - job done.
 
This is a typical low to mid variance BTG game with a progressive chanced big win mechanism. Much like Bonanza. Give it a week and someone somewhere will hit a 2000x win, que BTG can crack open the champagne and slap themselves on the back - job done.

It would need to be a darn sight better than 2000x IMHO. Not when you see what a game like Ninja Ways can deliver (and HAS delivered).
 

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