New Slot Announcement Here it is! BTG's Holy Diver slot!

It’s a bit of a chore playing it. If you don’t get a decent win in the first few level three bonus rounds, you’re unlikely to want to come back to it as the thought of going through it again is a bit much. Not a slot for a quick twenty quid session IMO.

Managed to hit a 470x in base game with three swords but the level three bonus rounds have all been really poor. And I can’t really be arsed giving it another go.
 
Another 'Newbie' ... first post on YT happens to be a HUGE win on BTG. Seen quite a few of those in the past months. People that have never recorded their play and suddenly have a video of a new BTG slot with a massive win.

Thanks for the link - could be genuine, but too much of a coincidence with these big winners nowadays.

Nate

Funny that there is always that one huge hit after the release and then long, long, long, long, long..........long nothing! :D :rolleyes:

BTW, 51% of CasinoGrounds were acquired by LeoVegas for $3.6 million!!!
 
Before I even seen where the link was I assumed it was going to be Casinogrounds newbie poster + Youtube and it was, fancy that!?

Im really tired of it. It's way too shilly. I try not to get involved in conspiracy, tin foil hat etc. But every single time there is a monster hit on BTG or BTG license slots, its on that forum which is owned by leovegas who is a direct partner of BTG. Look at the 24,000x hit the other day. It was from someone with a new account on CG again. The monster bonanza hit was revealed in a streamers who is sponsored by btg and leovegas. Its the same thing over and over again.

Casinogrounds forum isnt even that big. The people that post here and lurk here has to be 1 million times more than there. Why is no one posting the hits here? Why are they all new youtube channels? Why are they familiar with casinogrounds so much so they make an account there but never post any content ever aside from a monster BTG win. And like Harry says why is always right after release and then never again.

What gives more fuel to this we know BTG created fake screenshot to give their company more exposure. I really wish BTG didnt do this so we can at least believe we arent all being duped. I hope Bryan starts killing links to that forum and maybe even makes it forbidden since its full of affiliate shill bs

Sorry I have been holding this in for awhile but Im just tired of it.

Back to minding my business I go.
 
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Im really tired of it. It's way too shilly. I try not to get involved in conspiracy, tin foil hat etc. But every single time there is a monster hit on BTG or BTG license slots, its on that forum which is owned by leovegas who is a direct partner of BTG. Look at the 24,000x hit the other day. It was from someone with a new account on CG again. The monster bonanza hit was revealed in a streamers who is sponsored by btg and leovegas. Its the same thing over and over again.

Casinogrounds forum isnt even that big. The people that post here and lurk here has to be 1 million times more than there. Why is no one posting the hits here? Why are they all new youtube channels? Why are they familiar with casinogrounds so much so they make an account there but never post any content ever aside from a monster BTG win. And like Harry says why is always right after release and then never again.

What gives more fuel to this we know BTG created fake screenshot to give their company more exposure. I really wish BTG didnt do this so we can at least believe we arent all being duped. I hope Bryan starts killing links to that forum and maybe even makes it forbidden since its full of affiliate shill bs

Sorry I have been holding this in for awhile but Im just tired of it.

Back to minding my business I go.

Yes it is the same pattern over and over CG + new user + youtube + only uploads are a big win on BTG, it has happened everytime on a new release, I wasn't logged in and you get the must be logged in to see link, and my mind was already made up before I logged in just because it is the same shit everytime, after their initial screenshot fiasco they simply cannot be trusted, and now the same pattern over and over, don't worry they will get wise to it, they will just start creating accounts a few months before they know a release date and attempt to make it look less shilly. As for the slot I 100% will never spin it, have no desire to play any of their slots anymore...it has been longer than a year since I did.
 
Well after slating the game for being boring i went and decided i needed to be fair and try it for real money.

So played it 4 times at different casinos. Each time i fought through the sheer boredom to make sure i reached end of level 3.

Total wins from bonuses were 9x 12x 20x and 60x roughly. And that was all from level 3 bonuses.

Sorry the slot may have some potential but it really is a boring mind numbing slot to play.

i couldn't even get through the bonus round video to the end, it bored me to tears. though that hypnotizing music didn't help lol..
 
Managed a ~350x a few days ago but im not gonna bother again it took over 900spins and just nothing ever happens in basegame, the lvl3 before that was another 700spins and paid 23x.

There new Danger High Voltage "The Final Countdown" looks way better just normal scatters trigger for freespins.
 
Im really tired of it. It's way too shilly. I try not to get involved in conspiracy, tin foil hat etc. But every single time there is a monster hit on BTG or BTG license slots, its on that forum which is owned by leovegas who is a direct partner of BTG. Look at the 24,000x hit the other day. It was from someone with a new account on CG again. The monster bonanza hit was revealed in a streamers who is sponsored by btg and leovegas. Its the same thing over and over again.

Casinogrounds forum isnt even that big. The people that post here and lurk here has to be 1 million times more than there. Why is no one posting the hits here? Why are they all new youtube channels? Why are they familiar with casinogrounds so much so they make an account there but never post any content ever aside from a monster BTG win. And like Harry says why is always right after release and then never again.

What gives more fuel to this we know BTG created fake screenshot to give their company more exposure. I really wish BTG didnt do this so we can at least believe we arent all being duped. I hope Bryan starts killing links to that forum and maybe even makes it forbidden since its full of affiliate shill bs

Sorry I have been holding this in for awhile but Im just tired of it.

Back to minding my business I go.

That 24,000x win wasn't on a BTG game.

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Funny that there is always that one huge hit after the release and then long, long, long, long, long..........long nothing! :D :rolleyes:

BTW, 51% of CasinoGrounds were acquired by LeoVegas for $3.6 million!!!

You mean, there was whinging and moaning here that we haven't seen a big hit yet on this game, unlike jamming jars.

I wish people make up their minds.

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Here is a thought for the conspiracy theorists.

Last week I went to two do's. One was organised by the owner of this forum, and one by the owner of Casinogrounds.

Only on one of these do's did I have a drink and chat with Nik Robinson. He was nowhere to be seen on the other do.

So in who's pocket is Nik Robinson?
 
Here is a thought for the conspiracy theorists.

Last week I went to two do's. One was organised by the owner of this forum, and one by the owner of Casinogrounds.

Only on one of these do's did I have a drink and chat with Nik Robinson. He was nowhere to be seen on the other do.

So in who's pocket is Nik Robinson?

it's called public relations, if and I say if casinogrounds is already a very friendly/positive marketing platform for btg, he need not waste time cultivating it any further, its the pastures where opinion is more critical that, from a marketing viewpoint, makes sense to focus on.
 
it's called public relations, if and I say if casinogrounds is already a very friendly/positive marketing platform for btg, he need not waste time cultivating it any further, its the pastures where opinion is more critical that, from a marketing viewpoint, makes sense to focus on.

The point I perhaps poorly was attempting to make was, that there is no conspiracy. The win that I linked to is genuine enough. How long has the game been out now? And this is the biggest win that I have seen which is nothing compared to what say Jammin Jars seems to produce on an almost weekly basis.
 
Well after slating the game for being boring i went and decided i needed to be fair and try it for real money.

So played it 4 times at different casinos. Each time i fought through the sheer boredom to make sure i reached end of level 3.

Total wins from bonuses were 9x 12x 20x and 60x roughly. And that was all from level 3 bonuses.

Sorry the slot may have some potential but it really is a boring mind numbing slot to play.

And okay before anyone rants on about the potential all BTG games supposedly have it but it is rarely seen.

Take a look at Blueprint Megaways slots and see the payouts from them compared to BTG. Genie Jackpots for example.Not the most played slot but look at amount of screenshots its produced. Even i hit a 6000x on it and have had several over 1000x and i dont play it that much.

BTG should take a lesson from BLueprint on getting Megaways right. Blueprint have went from low variance slots like king kong cash etc and moved onto slots like Napoleon and Genie Jackpots to keep up with what players want which is high variance slots that actually show their potential.
Join ‘casinogrounds’ mate... within days you will be a ‘anonymous’ poster whom hits 14000x...it’s that easy :-)
 
Here is a thought for the conspiracy theorists.

Last week I went to two do's. One was organised by the owner of this forum, and one by the owner of Casinogrounds.

Only on one of these do's did I have a drink and chat with Nik Robinson. He was nowhere to be seen on the other do.

So in who's pocket is Nik Robinson?
You ain’t a big time shill (sorry streamer) so you with all respect me
well thanks. About time you made a presence on the forum rather than to promote your next hit :-)
I feel honoured
 
That youtube video of the massive win, can you publicly state that it was a genuine win, from a genuine casino customer with no ties to any casino, yourself or any gaming platform?
They will be as silent on that as any other question or issue a forum member asks, yet they still are allowed a platform here..
 
They will be as silent on that as any other question or issue a forum member asks, yet they still are allowed a platform here..

Its a simple question, sure they won't have a problem answering it.
Just seems strange that someone who has seemingly never uploaded a single video previously or since, decided to record a video at that point, perfectly framed to exclude any casino identifying logos, perfectly playing with no stutters or anything, and even manages to dub new sound over the top, which I know isn't hard, just unlikely in my view for someone who has no history of uploading videos of any sort.
The only reason BTG wouldn't answer the question would be if they were worried it might come back and bite them on the arse at a later point in time, so I am confident in waiting for a reply.
 
Its a simple question, sure they won't have a problem answering it.
Just seems strange that someone who has seemingly never uploaded a single video previously or since, decided to record a video at that point, perfectly framed to exclude any casino identifying logos, perfectly playing with no stutters or anything, and even manages to dub new sound over the top, which I know isn't hard, just unlikely in my view for someone who has no history of uploading videos of any sort.
The only reason BTG wouldn't answer the question would be if they were worried it might come back and bite them on the arse at a later point in time, so I am confident in waiting for a reply.

Isn't it a video recorded from a mobile? Try to play any game on mobile and you will not see the casino logo at all. It just looks like it does on my phone when I play the game?
 
I will enquire into the authenticity of the win via the poster on CG and then check with the casino manager, pending the players authority to do so and verify accordingly, it's not that big in regards to the games potential (shoot me now for saying that), it's one seventh of the max exposure.

I'll keep you up to date.
 
Isn't it a video recorded from a mobile? Try to play any game on mobile and you will not see the casino logo at all. It just looks like it does on my phone when I play the game?

Do you record all your gameplay on your phone? Just in case you happen to get the biggest hit anyone has ever seen? ;)
Out of interest what do people use to record slots on their phones?
 
Do you record all your gameplay on your phone? Just in case you happen to get the biggest hit anyone has ever seen? ;)
Out of interest what do people use to record slots on their phones?

Not all of it. But I did start the recording software as soon as I hit a bonus. Most of the time it had to be deleted immediately though cause it was crap.

I personally use DU recorder: Old / Expired Link
 
I will enquire into the authenticity of the win via the poster on CG and then check with the casino manager, pending the players authority to do so and verify accordingly, it's not that big in regards to the games potential (shoot me now for saying that), it's one seventh of the max exposure.

I'll keep you up to date.

Thanks.
Why do you need to contact the casino? Surely you can see if the win was from your server (and it wasn't freeplay) so you can answer if it was authentic?
I have had big wins from your slots, so I have no doubt a win of that size is possible, but do find it strange that there is always a massive win posted on the little used casinogrounds, as a video posted on youtube by someone who has never uploaded any other video, always perfect quality, always shortly after release, and rarely, if ever, beaten, no matter how long the game has been out.
Even if they are all authentic, I think, even you would understand why people might be skeptical under the circumstances?
I'm also aware that no matter what you say there will be people who still don't believe you, which is why I simply asked about its authenticity :)
 
Not all of it. But I did start the recording software as soon as I hit a bonus. Most of the time it had to be deleted immediately though cause it was crap.

I personally use DU recorder: Old / Expired Link

thanks :)
I think you would agree most people don't record gameplay though, yet out of the thousands of people who play the new BTG games, someone always manages a massive hit soon after release, who does happen to be someone who records their gameplay :)
 
Thanks.
Why do you need to contact the casino? Surely you can see if the win was from your server (and it wasn't freeplay) so you can answer if it was authentic?
I have had big wins from your slots, so I have no doubt a win of that size is possible, but do find it strange that there is always a massive win posted on the little used casinogrounds, as a video posted on youtube by someone who has never uploaded any other video, always perfect quality, always shortly after release, and rarely, if ever, beaten, no matter how long the game has been out.
Even if they are all authentic, I think, even you would understand why people might be skeptical under the circumstances?
I'm also aware that no matter what you say there will be people who still don't believe you, which is why I simply asked about its authenticity :)

With regards Casinogrounds, the streamers ask their viewers to post any big wins on the Casinogrounds forum so that they can be included in a weekly compilation video that is posted on their Youtube channel.

That explains why big win pictures / videos appear there rather than perhaps here.

And to be honest, when it comes to BTG big win pictures / videos, I can't blame them. You can imagine the grief a new poster will get posting a big win here. They most probably will be accused of being a BTG member of staff :eek2:
 
thanks :)
I think you would agree most people don't record gameplay though, yet out of the thousands of people who play the new BTG games, someone always manages a massive hit soon after release, who does happen to be someone who records their gameplay :)

Just look a the big win screenshot / video section here that is testimony that players do want to show off their big wins. Each to their own I guess.
 
Thanks.
Why do you need to contact the casino? Surely you can see if the win was from your server (and it wasn't freeplay) so you can answer if it was authentic?
I have had big wins from your slots, so I have no doubt a win of that size is possible, but do find it strange that there is always a massive win posted on the little used casinogrounds, as a video posted on youtube by someone who has never uploaded any other video, always perfect quality, always shortly after release, and rarely, if ever, beaten, no matter how long the game has been out.
Even if they are all authentic, I think, even you would understand why people might be skeptical under the circumstances?
I'm also aware that no matter what you say there will be people who still don't believe you, which is why I simply asked about its authenticity :)

We have no access to player data as we deliver our games through partners, SG, MGS, Relax etc.

As I mentioned I have already reached out to the player on the website in question to ask which casino he played the session at so we can then confirm the win and the casino...
 
With regards Casinogrounds, the streamers ask their viewers to post any big wins on the Casinogrounds forum so that they can be included in a weekly compilation video that is posted on their Youtube channel.

That explains why big win pictures / videos appear there rather than perhaps here.

And to be honest, when it comes to BTG big win pictures / videos, I can't blame them. You can imagine the grief a new poster will get posting a big win here. They most probably will be accused of being a BTG member of staff :eek2:

and, playing devils advocate, i'm sure you are fully aware of the reason why :)
For me if BTG confirm the win is genuine, that will be enough. These things have a tendency to come out at some point, no company would put their reputation on the line without being 100% confident.
 
and, playing devils advocate, i'm sure you are fully aware of the reason why :)
For me if BTG confirm the win is genuine, that will be enough. These things have a tendency to come out at some point, no company would put their reputation on the line without being 100% confident.

I am aware ok. When "that" big win picture on the Dragon Born slot was posted, I was as vocal as the next person regarding it. I may even have mentioned I wouldn't trust the slot provider if my memory serves me right.

But, Nik then explained what happened. I took his word for it and moved on. Some clearly haven't and still hold that grudge. Life is too short for that :cheers:
 
My biggest win on this so far 150x in base game.One more gem to finish level 3 but i dont expect more than 25x in total
 

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This slot is just not good at all. Its not even fun. There are some btg slots I think to play the odd time that interests me from time to time. Danger, bonanza, chili but I played this once and it just sucks bad that I have no will to ever try it again.
 
From Nik Robinson CEO Big Time Gaming:2/3/16

Dear Forum Members,

Bryan has kindly allowed Big Time Gaming back into the forum.

Firstly, I would like to apologise for the creation of the shill account. This was done from within our HQ here in Sydney and was created by an over excited junior member of staff that took it on himself "to show the games potential". This individual has been reprimanded severely. I have now taken charge of this account and will personally be the only individual posting on behalf of Big Time Gaming official.

We are deeply sorry for any ill feeling caused by the shill and the competition post (that would not have seen the light of day as we need to put an operators name against the final draw) needless to say, this entry has been removed.

Feel free to keep on bashing us if you wish and I will take it on the chin, as CEO of the business I take full responsibility.

I would like to say that Big Time Gaming is an independent business and integrity and honesty are our core values. We hope that one bad apple is not going to create long term bad feeling, so, give us a chance to listen to you on games feedback and we hope to gain back your trust.

Sincerely

Nik Robinson

Big Time Gaming official
 
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If BTG have "no access to player data as we deliver our games through partners, SG, MGS, Relax etc."
How did they manage to 'recreate' that 14,000x Bonanza win on behalf of that poster on Twitch?
That video wasn't recorded by the player. It was made by BTG from the player's data

We don't have access, we can however when requested get the game session data and recreate the game session in the front end. As long as the player is OK to share that data which in this case they were.
 
Just checked back at the op of the x5200 win on Holy Diver and they won it on yeticasino.com - I will leave it up to their rep @L&L-Jan to confirm as it is late there and I don't want to wake him up!
 
I've played it for the second time tonight as w.hill have just got it now, and it was a better experience than the first time.

The main problems are the slowness, the feeling the base game can't do anything without help from the chests, and the concept that the first level bonus and possibly 2nd level [much like the 8/10 free spins on chilli] will be poor.

As a low roller it's not a bad game as an alternative 10p'er to white rabbit and donuts. I just did a £10 deposit to play it at 10p, managed to get the first four gems with about £5 left, carried on to level 2 and thought I was in trouble with about £1.50 left and no gems in sight, and would have to redeposit.

However had some of those slow spin, big wins and got back to £6, a bit later all four gems came out of a chest to give me a decent 110x win and I took the level 2 bonus fearing that playing on to level 3 would see the game take back that 110x and the rest of my balance, a bit like bonanza seems to regularly do after a big base game win.

The level 2 bonus was okay, £4 ish, but it is annoying that the trigger spin paid twice more than a 10 spin bonus, but overall I can't say its a bad game, just a bit of a time chomper [maybe balance chomper too, but at 10p you don't notice so much ;) ]:

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ps. sorry for the low res image, need to remedy this somehow without going over the upload limit
 
I think that’s the thing with Holy Diver. It’s designed more for the casual player who wants a bit of play and interest for their money. The chest part is a little flawed but only insomuch as it does struggle to win anything without them but that effectively shows really what most slots do without that part of the design on display. Bearing in mind you can have anywhere from 1-5 spins for a chest it’s really not all that different from a standard slot design. Because it’s there for all to see it’s picked up as “poor design”.

I guess one of the issues is the lengthy time it takes to get to the 3rd level and the general poor nature of the bonus when you get there. Yes, it is capable of chucking out the big wins but is obviously unlikely to do so very often and I feel many players will get sick and tired of slugging their way through hundreds of spins to hit a regular 30x odd bonus. Psychology, that will wear very thin after a while if you don’t at least get a 500x plus win which is obviously far from certain.

Edit: Is there any confirmation somewhere of the average feature pay for the levels? I guess level 3 must average around 70-80x?
 
I think that’s the thing with Holy Diver. It’s designed more for the casual player who wants a bit of play and interest for their money. The chest part is a little flawed but only insomuch as it does struggle to win anything without them but that effectively shows really what most slots do without that part of the design on display. Bearing in mind you can have anywhere from 1-5 spins for a chest it’s really not all that different from a standard slot design. Because it’s there for all to see it’s picked up as “poor design”.

I guess one of the issues is the lengthy time it takes to get to the 3rd level and the general poor nature of the bonus when you get there. Yes, it is capable of chucking out the big wins but is obviously unlikely to do so very often and I feel many players will get sick and tired of slugging their way through hundreds of spins to hit a regular 30x odd bonus. Psychology, that will wear very thin after a while if you don’t at least get a 500x plus win which is obviously far from certain.

Edit: Is there any confirmation somewhere of the average feature pay for the levels? I guess level 3 must average around 70-80x?

Good Observation.

They did the same with WWTBAM - The losing gambles eventually just put players off. Not worth playing the game if you are hitting three losing features on the trot. You win on your next gamble and win 10x but proceed to lose the following 2...

The design and gameplay is superior to Bonanza and has a smoother feel, but BTG killed it with their gamble mechanic. I think the slot would have been more popular IF you could re-trigger up to 50 spins naturally in the Free Spins.

As you mentioned above - with HD, the pure frustration of poor average payouts on level 3 coupled with the slow and unexciting gameplay in the base game will piss a few players off - I already lost any urge i had to play further.... it's just boring.

Nate
 
That 24,000x win wasn't on a BTG game.

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Interlog!

I know you are friends and a streamer on casinogrounds and thats ok because you are one of the less shilly streamers around. You dont pander, you dont suck peoples ass in chat, you dont constantly push links. You stream, you have fun, you win, you lose, you swear and have fun and you play real money and show emotion. I like you and I hope you return at some point and you stay the same.

I have a personal issue with BTG and that contest thing and while you say life is too short and let it go. I do not agree at all. That was super shady. It's not like I sit here and think about it or obsess but when things arrive with BTG that seems a bit shady, I go back to what they did. They deserve it and I think they know it. Plus I feel their slots are super misleading. Maybe I make myself look bad by jumping on conspiracy theories about them and that's ok, I accept it.

I would like BTG if they didnt partner themselves with casinos and streamers, it leaves too many doors open for issues.
 
Interlog!

I know you are friends and a streamer on casinogrounds and thats ok because you are one of the less shilly streamers around. You dont pander, you dont suck peoples ass in chat, you dont constantly push links. You stream, you have fun, you win, you lose, you swear and have fun and you play real money and show emotion. I like you and I hope you return at some point and you stay the same.

I have a personal issue with BTG and that contest thing and while you say life is too short and let it go. I do not agree at all. That was super shady. It's not like I sit here and think about it or obsess but when things arrive with BTG that seems a bit shady, I go back to what they did. They deserve it and I think they know it. Plus I feel their slots are super misleading. Maybe I make myself look bad by jumping on conspiracy theories about them and that's ok, I accept it.

I would like BTG if they didnt partner themselves with casinos and streamers, it leaves too many doors open for issues.

I can't disagree with what they did back then was wrong, because it simply was. And in all fairness, Nik did acknowledge that in his subsequent message.

BTG does use partnership with casinos / streamers as a tool to market themselves. I guess it is no different to say Dan of Pragmatic using this forum to get his slots some publicity. A good technique to use but that doesn't make them shady in my books.

As for my streaming. I will never change and when I will eventually get back to it, it will be the same old boring me :)
 
If BTG have "no access to player data as we deliver our games through partners, SG, MGS, Relax etc."
How did they manage to 'recreate' that 14,000x Bonanza win on behalf of that poster on Twitch?
That video wasn't recorded by the player. It was made by BTG from the player's data

Back when the 14kx was hit I recall the BTG slots were via their own generic interface, unlike through NYX/SG as now?
 
That youtube video of the massive win, can you publicly state that it was a genuine win, from a genuine casino customer with no ties to any casino, yourself or any gaming platform?

I'm not sure why that's relevant other than to satiate the conspiracy theorists. Anybody who plays the slot for real money whether streamers, 'genuine' casino customers whomever they do or don't work for, all get their results from the same RNG server. Considering that LV get the games first and therefore the CGrounds streamers will be banging hundreds of thousands of spins through them before you or I even play it for real, I'd be surprised statistically if the first big win(s) were NOT from those sources.

The only alternative to that is if some players were playing rigged versions or videoshopping fake wins. I doubt CG would put up with that!
 
I'm not sure why that's relevant other than to satiate the conspiracy theorists. Anybody who plays the slot for real money whether streamers, 'genuine' casino customers whomever they do or don't work for, all get their results from the same RNG server. Considering that LV get the games first and therefore the CGrounds streamers will be banging hundreds of thousands of spins through them before you or I even play it for real, I'd be surprised statistically if the first big win(s) were NOT from those sources.

The only alternative to that is if some players were playing rigged versions or videoshopping fake wins. I doubt CG would put up with that!

I would think a streamer would have more than one video on his/her youtube account. I've already explained why I asked, and if BTG confirm it's genuine, then thats enough for me and should be for anyone, unless other evidence comes about to disprove it.
 

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