Hello from Daniel Pragmatic Play

[ChopleyIOM]

Same reason as others do - there's nothing to stop them outside the UK.

So the only reason for an online casino software provider not to do something is if there's nothing to stop them doing it?

How far would you stretch that philosophy?

And some here complain that too much regulation is a bad thing!

 

[mina1929]

Welcome back Dan so nice to hear from you again

I have played some of the Pragmatic games and they're not bad especially Wolf Gold

 

[nikantw]

You guys wanna talk HV. Play the Peking slot by these guys. Did a $100+$100. Lost $200 on 25 cent bets with no bonus. Never seen anything like that in my life aside from bonanza possible and biggest win was 19x.

Wont play this provider again most likely. Not a fan of provider that make slots that are capable of that garbage.

Jurassic giants is another horrific nightmare slot. All bonus pays 10-30x. Never seen anyone get 100x on it.

Terrible provider

Maybe those 3 games are not for you. It is what you get for real big potential (PL, DT). I don't remember how JG plays so I can't talk about that.
Bonanza has fake potential, 5000x is the real one and over 1000x is harder than most other games, that is how it can afford a base game RTP like that.

But PP has many other games that cover all the range from super low to super high volatility. TBH I have found the longest game play I ever had in their LV-MV games.
I just started, many more to try, many more spins to play, but the gameplay on them (LV) is the best so far.

 

[dunover]

So the only reason for an online casino software provider not to do something is if there's nothing to stop them doing it?

How far would you stretch that philosophy?

And some here complain that too much regulation is a bad thing!

We're only talking autoplay here, let's not get carried away! It's pretty simple from where I'm standing - for maximum player convenience there are outside parameters including infinite spins, spin until feature, 5,000 spins, infinite loss limits etc. which are in turn tempered for whichever markets they are released in, according to any regulations applicable in those respective markets. It's a common-sense way to execute autoplay options. In a similar way that it's better to overfill a hole in the wall with plaster and sand it down, than not to fill it enough in the first place. As I said you made good use of those same settings yourself in some older videos.

It's a regulatory nightmare out there for casinos and developers so the only efficient way is to begin with one-size-fits-all and slim it down.

Yes, too much regulation has been effected by the UKGC hence us losing autoplay on WMS and IGT games just to name two, which is a bloody pain in the arse frankly. Players have a finite balance when they start autoplay which they can only lose once whether there's 5000-spin or 500-spin limit. Unlike removing say reverse-withdrawal periods would, autoplay limits have next to bugger-all in player protection or responsibility terms.

 

[lotusch]

You guys wanna talk HV. Play the Peking slot by these guys. Did a $100+$100. Lost $200 on 25 cent bets with no bonus. Never seen anything like that in my life aside from bonanza possible and biggest win was 19x.

Wont play this provider again most likely. Not a fan of provider that make slots that are capable of that garbage.

Jurassic giants is another horrific nightmare slot. All bonus pays 10-30x. Never seen anyone get 100x on it.

Terrible provider

I had the free spins the very first time I played the slot 2 days ago within 40 spins and got 28 FS with x5 multiplier.
Paid just over 200x.

Actually my best win on a Pragmatic slot yet when it comes to x stake.

So I must have been very lucky triggering the bonus so quickly as I hear it is a real biatch to trigger it.

 

[spoo42]

Hi again Dan

Haven't really played any pragmatic play slots, apart from a rare spin here or there.

That is, apart from Gold Rush. Gave that quite a bashing for a good while a few months ago. Had some really good wins on it (but also on occasion loved to take it back. )

Might have a go again now ive been reminded of it

 

[Balthazar]

So the only reason for an online casino software provider not to do something is if there's nothing to stop them doing it?

How far would you stretch that philosophy?

And some here complain that too much regulation is a bad thing!

As someone who lives in a place with too much regulation (we don't even have autoplay on any slot), I can confirm that it is a bad thing. I rather have the choice between 100 and 1000 than no choice at all.

 

[brianmon]

They play differently as well, demo play is quicker in Quick Spin mode than real play, and Turbo Spin mode is MASSIVELY quicker in demo play than real play.

100 spins in 66 seconds from a UK IP address.
That's about 5400 spins an hour

Is that responsible gaming?

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi all,

It is interesting to read what you all think about spin speed and auto play function and I can guarantee that I share all this info with our team.

We have released some high variance slots but we do also provide slots that are less volatile. One of my favorites that gives good entertainment is Aasgard and you do also have Wolf Golf that could be worth to look at.

Br,

Daniel

 

[aceking123]

Hi all,

It is interesting to read what you all think about spin speed and auto play function and I can guarantee that I share all this info with our team.

We have released some high variance slots but we do also provide slots that are less volatile. One of my favorites that gives good entertainment is Aasgard and you do also have Wolf Golf that could be worth to look at

Daniel

Hi dan.
Pragmatic slots are poor same old slots assguard terrible game, pretty much same focus from same guy.
Even after speaking directly with him about the games he didnt take well to any critcism about his slots, along with a few witnesses to back it up.
Rinse & repeat software bits nicked from other providers including many brick & mortar slots, like chilli heat etc etc.

 

[Steviedoo]

Hi dan
I’m a fan of pragmatic.
Welcome back to the forum.

I’ve tried almost all the pragmatic slots. And always find they give me the most play time. And I have had decent cashouts and wins on them.

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Had the same experience with the peking slot. 75 cent bets and lost $350 with no bonus and very low rtp of 18%.

Higher volatility than any slot ive ever seen so will for sure being staying away from that one

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Had the same experience with the peking slot. 75 cent bets and lost $350 with no bonus and very low rtp of 18%.

Higher volatility than any slot ive ever seen so will for sure being staying away from that one

Hi Billybonanza,

Yes, Peking Luck and Da Vinci are one of the most volatile slots in our portfolio and we will mix our releases the rest of the year when it comes to the volatility of our slots.

Br,

Daniel

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Hi Daniel,

What are the actual odds of a player hitting the 'headline banner' figure of 48,000x stake on Da Vinci? The slot makes a big deal of this win being on the paytable (it's the first thing you see on a splash screen when the slot loads, and it's one of a handful of messages that constantly appear at the top of the game window during play).

From my reading of the slot the player would need to:

1) Trigger a bonus round with three scatters
2) Be awarded the Progressive Free Spins bonus round
3) Retrigger the bonus round the maximum four times to extend the round out to 60 spins
4) Land a full screen of the top paying stacked symbols on the 60th spin to achieve the 60x multiplier, which would be 800 x 60 = 48,000

Also, has anyone ever hit this pay?

Cheers

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi Daniel,

What are the actual odds of a player hitting the 'headline banner' figure of 48,000x stake on Da Vinci? The slot makes a big deal of this win being on the paytable (it's the first thing you see on a splash screen when the slot loads, and it's one of a handful of messages that constantly appear at the top of the game window during play).

From my reading of the slot the player would need to:

1) Trigger a bonus round with three scatters
2) Be awarded the Progressive Free Spins bonus round
3) Retrigger the bonus round the maximum four times to extend the round out to 60 spins
4) Land a full screen of the top paying stacked symbols on the 60th spin to achieve the 60x multiplier, which would be 800 x 60 = 48,000

Also, has anyone ever hit this pay?

Cheers

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Hi ChopleyIOM,

I don't know the odds of it happening but it is rare as other slots to hit the max win. But there are many X stakes you can win before the 48 000x that still would make someone happy.

Br,

Daniel

 

[gambyx7]

Best regards to Dan!

10 days age I tried Pragmatic Play. At first tried demo (and turbo spin), but after few hours tried for real with minimal bet.
I anticipated that PP is more on the higher side so I avoid longrolling, just 25-50 spins per session.

Da Vinci is quite cool, I expected it will be more brutal, but it is ok. So far I had 2 free spins, but other features are ok (Map bonus rarely gives under 30x). I would like to experience free spins retrigger.

Madame Destiny - the very first session and free spins landed after some 20 spins (0.20 bet). In that bonus got 2 retriggers and one of them was 5-scatter. Win over 1600x! I could not believe. I play it regulary and almost always get the free spins and total win is around 100x. Very nice game, great graphics and sound but I agree with others that 3OAK waiting is iritating.

Gold Rush - so far quite cruel. Equal number of sessions as others, but no bonuses. Most dangerous.

Wolf Gold - ok slot, but free spins are disappointing and all that wilds in base game....I don't know.

Tried Vegas Nights and 5 Lions...first now is ok, but lower the potentioal, other is more HV...

Is there any plans of making megaways slots or some imitation of Queren of Riches (BTG) slot. That would be nice...

 

[kretz1]

They play differently as well, demo play is quicker in Quick Spin mode than real play, and Turbo Spin mode is MASSIVELY quicker in demo play than real play.

same goes for i.e bonanza

 

[aceking123]

Pragmatic its all in the name, ive played both these new slots 1500 spins peking sadly no feature but shear abundance of two scatters driving you mad.

Da winchi played a tiny bit better but alas rinse repeat rinse repeat & yes you guessed in over 12 features not a single free spin.

Red tiger & pragmatic are just so damn scripted slots imo.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Great to see you back here Dan and big congrats with your new job wish you all the best sir.

 

[Nate]

One of my favorites that gives good entertainment is Aasgard and you do also have Wolf Golf that could be worth to look at.

Br,

Daniel

That is the ONLY slot I have ever managed to get a hole in 1 on the first spin ...

Jokes aside, is there any way Pragmatic would consider hard coding their RTP's like Netent do?

These pop up and fly by night casinos are taking the piss along with Pragmatic, Play'n Go and other providers offering such dreadful RTP's. The story of regulation is a moot point - In some jurisdictions its applicable, but most of the time the Casinos are offered the chance to alter the RTP on request.

I suppose NO provider will be ethical enough to state in the splash screen something along the lines of 'This slot has a reduced RTP as opted by the casino'

Nate

 

[kazzi]

Was supprised to see Prigmatic slots was changed yeasterday to actually have quickspins now with none lag, supprising fun to play them now.

This was in denmark though dunno if changed everywhere.

 

[Siohmy]

Yes, too much regulation has been effected by the UKGC hence us losing autoplay on WMS and IGT games just to name two, which is a bloody pain in the arse frankly. Players have a finite balance when they start autoplay which they can only lose once whether there's 5000-spin or 500-spin limit. Unlike removing say reverse-withdrawal periods would, autoplay limits have next to bugger-all in player protection or responsibility terms.

Could not agree more. Surely this has had a hugely negative impact on the aforementioned providers as I know I play slots with no autospin far less than those with. I doubt I am alone in this.

 

[Lemon]

Could not agree more. Surely this has had a hugely negative impact on the aforementioned providers as I know I play slots with no autospin far less than those with. I doubt I am alone in this.

You're certainly not alone. In such a saturated market it's more important than ever for a company to get their slots onto the front page of a site and noticed, and once they've fallen off those slots are then on a slippery slope and get buried and forgotten very quickly. Having autoplay is a massive advantage in this case, even more so if you can turbo-play through lots of spins quickly. And it goes without saying that surely the slots with AP get more games played on them per player session than those that don't. There's no way that the likes of IGT, WMS/Barcrest/SG/Bally, Microgaming and the like aren't at a huge disadvantage. I can't be arsed to sit there clicking SPIN every 3 seconds; I'd rather open up a NetEnt game, stick it on AP and tuck the window away while I'm doing other stuff and check back to see if the bonus has come in. Whenever I see a new game that doesn't have AP I will go as far as playing for the bonus and then I'll most likely never play it again. It's just inconceivable that IGT and WMS cannot easily reintegrate their autoplay functionality easily, but then I'm no coder.

 

[Deleted member 37551]

Semper Fi Daniel,like in the good old days,Semper Fi

 

[Nate]

That is the ONLY slot I have ever managed to get a hole in 1 on the first spin ...

Jokes aside, is there any way Pragmatic would consider hard coding their RTP's like Netent do?

These pop up and fly by night casinos are taking the piss along with Pragmatic, Play'n Go and other providers offering such dreadful RTP's. The story of regulation is a moot point - In some jurisdictions its applicable, but most of the time the Casinos are offered the chance to alter the RTP on request.

I suppose NO provider will be ethical enough to state in the splash screen something along the lines of 'This slot has a reduced RTP as opted by the casino'

Nate

Care to say something Dan?

Nate

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Care to say something Dan?

Nate

Hi Nate,

Some questions take time to get an answer to since I need to check with the right managers within the company. I will come back to you as soon as I can

Br,

Daniel

 

[Nate]

Hi Nate,

Some questions take time to get an answer to since I need to check with the right managers within the company. I will come back to you as soon as I can

Br,

Daniel

Thanks Dan

Didn't know you were on it as you didn't reply.

Now I know

Nate

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Hi Daniel

So, Peking Luck has a max prize of 180,000x stake (!).

At Videoslots the bet limit is £2.50, so that means a 'jackpot hit' would be £450,000. (!)

Two questions:

1) Is it the casino's responsibility to pay out this prize should it be won, or do Pragmatic pay it like MG do with the Mega Moolah jackpot? (i.e. Pragmatic cover it as sort of 'insurance'.)

2) Do you feel this headline figure is really a major selling point for the game? HV games are one thing, but is 180,000x something players have been asking for? That'd pay for eighteen wins of 10,000x distributed elsewhere on the slot, which is still a massive hit.

My personal feeling is that this game muddies the waters between a HV game and a progressive game.

ALSO NOTE - If you win £450,000 on this slot at Videoslots, according to their T&Cs it'd take you one year and three months to get paid at their maximum payout of £30,000 per month. You may want to check the T&Cs of the casino you are playing at, to see how long it'd take you get paid nearly half a million quid from a non-progressive game....

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi Daniel

So, Peking Luck has a max prize of 180,000x stake (!).

At Videoslots the bet limit is £2.50, so that means a 'jackpot hit' would be £450,000. (!)

Two questions:

1) Is it the casino's responsibility to pay out this prize should it be won, or do Pragmatic pay it like MG do with the Mega Moolah jackpot? (i.e. Pragmatic cover it as sort of 'insurance'.)

2) Do you feel this headline figure is really a major selling point for the game? HV games are one thing, but is 180,000x something players have been asking for? That'd pay for eighteen wins of 10,000x distributed elsewhere on the slot, which is still a massive hit.

My personal feeling is that this game muddies the waters between a HV game and a progressive game.

ALSO NOTE - If you win £450,000 on this slot at Videoslots, according to their T&Cs it'd take you one year and three months to get paid at their maximum payout of £30,000 per month. You may want to check the T&Cs of the casino you are playing at, to see how long it'd take you get paid nearly half a million quid from a non-progressive game....

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Hi ChopleyIOM,

I will do my best to answer your questions.

1. It is the casino's responsibility to pay the money. You will notice that different casinos have different maximum bet on the Peking Luck and its because of the maximum liability the casino is willing to take.

2. We are doing a different type of slots where some have insane potential and some have less. What many forget sometimes is that there are many nice big wins between 1x and 180 000x. I mean I would be more than thrilled to get a 10 000x win!

I will bring your thoughts and feedback with me to the team!

Have a fantastic day.

Br

Daniel

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Thanks Daniel I appreciate the quick and informative response

This does raise an issue for players though, as any massive win on Peking Luck would be subject to the casino's maximum cashout rules. Even a solid joint like Videoslots states £30,000 per month, so a player max spinning at £2.50 per spin hitting the 180,000x stake prize would have to wait FIFTEEN MONTHS to be paid in full.

Clearly there is the potential for this payout time to be far longer where casinos offer bigger stakes and have lower maximum cashout policies.

I realise this isn't 'Pragmatic Play's fault' as it were, but the banner headline figure of 180,000x stake maximum prize should perhaps come with the caveat - 'Time for the player to be paid this prize may be dependent on the casino's cashout policies'.

Indeed, the casinos aren't really talking on a maximum liability of 180,000x stake insofar as they basically get to spread that liability over well over a year of monthly payments! (And what happens if the casino folds within a month or two? Would the player ever get paid?)

I might try that with my next deposit, 'Yeah I'll deposit the rest over the next 15 months, but give me the full balance to play with now please.....'

 

[nikantw]

This does raise an issue for players though, as any massive win on Peking Luck would be subject to the casino's maximum cashout rules. Even a solid joint like Videoslots states £30,000 per month, so a player max spinning at £2.50 per spin hitting the 180,000x stake prize would have to wait FIFTEEN MONTHS to be paid in full.

I asked, back then, about big wins and this term. Answer was that they will try to pay big wins like that in one go.

 

[Lemon]

I realise this isn't 'Pragmatic Play's fault' as it were, but the banner headline figure of 180,000x stake maximum prize should perhaps come with the caveat - 'Time for the player to be paid this prize may be dependent on the casino's cashout policies'.

Should it fuck.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I had quite a few free spin rewards at Videoslots following my session yesterday, most of them on other Pragmatic games, which gave me a reason to open them up and have a look at least. (The spins were just 5 or 10 spins, so not enough to get any sort of feel for the games.) One of them was on a slot called '7 Monkeys' which I quite liked the aesthetics of.

Loaded it up this morning with a view to perhaps having a further go at it with real funds, had a quick look through the rules as I always do before playing a new slot, and was shocked to see this in the help file.

92.71% RTP! Is this the highest RTP variant of this game (in which case, for shame!), or are VS running a lower RTP variant of it? (Which would surprise me as VS have stated they always run the highest RTP variant of a slot.)

 

[dunover]

I had quite a few free spin rewards at Videoslots following my session yesterday, most of them on other Pragmatic games, which gave me a reason to open them up and have a look at least. (The spins were just 5 or 10 spins, so not enough to get any sort of feel for the games.) One of them was on a slot called '7 Monkeys' which I quite liked the aesthetics of.

Loaded it up this morning with a view to perhaps having a further go at it with real funds, had a quick look through the rules as I always do before playing a new slot, and was shocked to see this in the help file.

92.71% RTP! Is this the highest RTP variant of this game (in which case, for shame!), or are VS running a lower RTP variant of it? (Which would surprise me as VS have stated they always run the highest RTP variant of a slot.)

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Nope, VS aren't doing anything underhand, the factory TRTP of this game is a shocking 92.71%. I added it to my files a while back and just checked.

 

[nikantw]

Careful there, RTP 92.71%

Yes it's that low.

 

[Balthazar]

92.71% RTP is in the ballpark of government-owned, land-based slots around here.

Totally unsuitable for online slots in the current market.

 

[robby811]

The Freespin Feature is everytime 50 FS but also everytime only x1 you cant get any higher....and 35-40 are Deadspins....

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi all,

7 Monkies is an old title and I had to double check this morning and the slot does only have 1 setting on 92.71% RTP. A lot of time has gone since we released that slot and our releases now are around 96-97% RTP as standard.

Br,

Daniel

 

[zanzibar]

Thanks Daniel I appreciate the quick and informative response

This does raise an issue for players though, as any massive win on Peking Luck would be subject to the casino's maximum cashout rules. Even a solid joint like Videoslots states £30,000 per month, so a player max spinning at £2.50 per spin hitting the 180,000x stake prize would have to wait FIFTEEN MONTHS to be paid in full.

Clearly there is the potential for this payout time to be far longer where casinos offer bigger stakes and have lower maximum cashout policies.

I realise this isn't 'Pragmatic Play's fault' as it were, but the banner headline figure of 180,000x stake maximum prize should perhaps come with the caveat - 'Time for the player to be paid this prize may be dependent on the casino's cashout policies'.

Indeed, the casinos aren't really talking on a maximum liability of 180,000x stake insofar as they basically get to spread that liability over well over a year of monthly payments! (And what happens if the casino folds within a month or two? Would the player ever get paid?)

I might try that with my next deposit, 'Yeah I'll deposit the rest over the next 15 months, but give me the full balance to play with now please.....'

I admire your persistence but don't forget you're talking to "the company formerly known as Topgame" which should give you an indication of how much they care.

I'm sure there will soon be a statement pasted in here from PP lawyers saying they are a totally seperate company and hav no relation to Topgame yadda yadda even though it is on public record that they are

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David Barzilay and employ many of the same staff. Or maybe they will have my post removed like they have done with others on this forum that revealed this association.

Put it this way I wouldnt touch this providers games with somebody elses money.

 

[nikantw]

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi @nikantw,

We are doing our scheduled maintenance right now and it will last another 2-3 hour. I will inform when the slots are back up again.

Br,

Daniel

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi all,

We are done with our maintenance and you should be able to play our slots again.

Br,

Daniel

 

[gambyx7]

Hi all,

We are done with our maintenance and you should be able to play our slots again.

Br,

Daniel

Sadly, I have to say! Seems you set ripping mode.

I thought this can do only MG! Not a single win, and triggering this is very tricky.

Complete disaster with PP slots today.

I am not surprised that M. Destiny or Da Vinci are dangerous, but Wolf Gold, Pixies's or Rhino....robbery, pure robbery. Also, I don't understand the point of Wolf Gold free spins which:
a) never come
b) when they come, they are disaster
c) have weak potential...

I guess I have to pay the price for getting 5 scatter retrigger (Madame Destiny) in very first session...
Random? No way!

 

[Supababe]

I love wolf gold bonus (the moon thing) but not a fan of the free spins...
But then I guess that love/dislike of a game is often based on personal success and this bonus has been very nice on a couple of occasions x

 

[dionysus]

well, id still say random
possibly skewed perhaps
Wolf Gold FS are just awful - i play it for the cash drops in the other bonus

 

[dionysus]

I love wolf gold bonus (the moon thing) but not a fan of the free spins...
But then I guess that love/dislike of a game is often based on personal success and this bonus has been very nice on a couple of occasions x

typed as I was
agreed - the moon bonus has often been kind to me

 

[Supababe]

typed as I was
agreed - the moon bonus has often been kind to me

But you worded it so much more eloquently xx

 

[videoslotheaven]

Has to be the absolute worst slot provider in the current market. All your slots are total scam machines.

Next to impossible to trigger bonus on any of your game and biggest wins seams to be 10-15x betsize.

I really cannot grasp how this company is still in buisness with these games? Who the hell plays this shit?

 

[nikantw]

Has to be the absolute best slot provider in the current market. All your slots are the best.

Super easy to trigger bonus on any of your games and smallest wins seams to be 100-150x betsize.

I really cannot grasp how any other company is still in buisness against these games? Who the hell plays other slots?



Sorry, I am off my meds today...

 

[nikantw]

I see this new one, Vegas Magic. I try it in fun play.... first spin 5 scatters 500x