Hello from Daniel Pragmatic Play

[bebo67]

Dan! Nice to see you! I was just posting about how I found pragmatic play, in demo mode at VS, and how much I like the games! I also posted how horrible the free spins in Wolves Gold is.but the Wolves Gold bonus certainly makes up for it. I am going to forgo Gemix for a month and look at PNG stats to compare with pragmatic. We shall see. Thanks@ Steviedoo for pointing me here

 

[bebo67]

I wen't back and played Wolfs Gold on demo. Did bets of $125, and the free spins paid 5k-12k a pop and were hitting like crazy. So it pays great in high bets.

 

[Steviedoo]

I wen't back and played Wolfs Gold on demo. Did bets of $125, and the free spins paid 5k-12k a pop and were hitting like crazy. So it pays great in high bets.

Dan has a promo going for Cm players for November...

Pragmatic Play - Exclusive Casinomeister November Promotion!

 

[bebo67]

Dan has a promo going for Cm players for November...

Pragmatic Play - Exclusive Casinomeister November Promotion!

I saw that last night.

 

[bebo67]

I went through my deposits and withdrawals on VS last night, and completely disgusted with PNG.

 

[pinnit2014]

I tried that new PNG (new?) Street Magic...like most PNG's i just don't know if they're super High Variance or Super Low. Really can't work (the bulk of them) them out.

I find that PP games like a nice run on high bets, but don't bank on real play being like you're demo session.

 

[Steviedoo]

I tried that new PNG (new?) Street Magic...like most PNG's i just don't know if they're super High Variance or Super Low. Really can't work (the bulk of them) them out.

I find that PP games like a nice run on high bets, but don't bank on real play being like you're demo session.

Demo mode and real mode at any casino has to be the same.

 

[pinnit2014]

Demo mode and real mode at any casino has to be the same.

Well - apart from that one provider recently where it was shown they weren't (not applicable to PP)

 

[Lemon]

Well - apart from that one provider recently where it was shown they weren't (not applicable to PP)

Which provider was that then, out of curiosity?

 

[pinnit2014]

Which provider was that then, out of curiosity?

Name escapes me pal...but some of the casinos I think pulled the slots from their site. I never played the games but apparently the difference between the two was quite palpable with the RTP varying widely between real/demo. As Stevie said though they should/will be the same

In a thread on here somewhere

 

[paul7388]

Which provider was that then, out of curiosity?

There have been a few cases of this.

Most recently Gameart slots ATTN: Casino Rep - Demo play not the same as real - GameArt slots

Playtech were guilty of it for years Playtech Avengers: Fun Mode vs Real Mode Discrepancies?

 

[Steviedoo]

Well maybe dan can chime in here and tell us that demo mode and real mode are the same at casinos.

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi all,

Demo mode and real play mode are the same for Pragmatic Play slots.

Br,

Daniel

 

[greylady]

I was a right numpty, obviously wasn't paying attention and did 3 x £25 spins on Wolf Gold at Trada by accident before I noticed - all dead

I could have kicked myself

 

[bebo67]

I was a right numpty, obviously wasn't paying attention and did 3 x £25 spins on Wolf Gold at Trada by accident before I noticed - all dead

I could have kicked myself

Oh nooooo. Expensive!

 

[videoslotheaven]

Tried that peking unlucky game again today. What a pile of trash. Have a unachivable top pay and compensate by 90% deadspins and a feature that is harder to trigger than bonanza.

And when it comes around expect nothing less than 0-10x bet.

The whole catalouge of games that they have are like this. Biggest scam in the industry. Even worse that thunderkick. And i diddent think that was possible...

 

[Throwaway10825]

Hey Dan,

I love your slots but noticed this while playing on Ancient Egypt Classic. I usually just turbo spin until I hit a feature but I decided to slow it down today and just leave it on the normal autoplay. I had this screen roll in to trigger a feature,

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. Apologies for not having a screenshot of the actual screen, I didn't have time when I saw it, and thought it would show me the trigger screen after the bonus but it didn't. Shouldn't that trigger screen pay differently? The 3 wilds in a row should pay 10x since they're effectively the best symbol? Not entirely sure if I'm missing anything but it seems to be paying incorrectly.

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hey Throwaway,

I am replied to your PM and I will check with our team just to triple check before I answer.

Br,

Daniel

 

[nikantw]

Hey Dan,

I love your slots but noticed this while playing on Ancient Egypt Classic. I usually just turbo spin until I hit a feature but I decided to slow it down today and just leave it on the normal autoplay. I had this screen roll in to trigger a feature,

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. Apologies for not having a screenshot of the actual screen, I didn't have time when I saw it, and thought it would show me the trigger screen after the bonus but it didn't. Shouldn't that trigger screen pay differently? The 3 wilds in a row should pay 10x since they're effectively the best symbol? Not entirely sure if I'm missing anything but it seems to be paying incorrectly.

No, you should only expect (in any slot) wilds to pay as the best symbol if there is a wild line and the wilds don't have a payout of their own.
If you only have 3 wilds in a line, they transform to the next symbol in the line and pay like that, unless that pay is smaller than 3oak wilds in paytable (in that case it pays 3oak wilds).

Those are general comments about slots.
In your case, the 3 wilds in line 1 transformed as "Q" and paid 4oak "Q", that pay is bigger than 3 wilds in paytable. Then because it is also a scatter, it also paid 3 scatters in paytable (2x bet).
It then paid line 10, 2 wilds and a "Q" as 3oak "Q".

 

[Throwaway10825]

"If you only have 3 wilds in a line, they transform to the next symbol in the line and pay like that, unless that pay is smaller than 3oak wilds in paytable (in that case it pays 3oak wilds). " In the paytable, 3oak wilds would pay 10x bet as they can substitute for any symbol and the highest pay on that line would be a win of 10x. If there was the case of four wilds on line 1 followed by a Queen, that line should pay 100x(4 wilds/cleopatras/explorer in a line) + 20x(4 scatters), or would it pay 15x(full line of Queens) + 20x(4 scatter trigger)?

 

[nikantw]

"If you only have 3 wilds in a line, they transform to the next symbol in the line and pay like that, unless that pay is smaller than 3oak wilds in paytable (in that case it pays 3oak wilds). " In the paytable, 3oak wilds would pay 10x bet as they can substitute for any symbol and the highest pay on that line would be a win of 10x. If there was the case of four wilds on line 1 followed by a Queen, that line should pay 100x(4 wilds/cleopatras/explorer in a line) + 20x(4 scatters), or would it pay 15x(full line of Queens) + 20x(4 scatter trigger)?

In the paytable 3 scarabs pay 2x. When they say "they can substitute" emphasis on "can". You can't substitute all wilds to a Queen all the time!

I explained how it works in almost any slot. The wilds only change into symbols that already exist in the payline and only if it forms a paying combination.

In the example you ask for, 4 wilds and a Queen, all wilds change to a Queen (5oak Queen 500x) and since that is bigger than 4 wilds or 3 wilds that is what the line pays.
But because in this game the scarabs are also scatters, they also award the 4-scatter pay of 20x. You get paid 500x + 20x = 520x.

The only time wilds transform to the highest symbol without it being present, is if you have 5 wilds (in a payline of 5 spots, i.e. wildline) and there is no paytable for wilds.

 

[nikantw]

The interesting question would be what happens with 4 scarabs and any letter after that.
It is interesting because 4 wilds pay more (20x) than 5oak of any letter (10x or 15x). But, reading the paytable again, I don't think wilds in this game pay as stand alone wilds by themselves, unless it is 5 of them in a line.
I think 4 wilds and "J" in a line will pay 10x + 20x for the 4 scatters.

In Blood Suckers 2 for example, 3 wilds and a letter pay 3 wilds, because it pays more than 4oak letter and also there is a paytable for wilds.

I think in this slot wilds don't really have a paytable, unless it is 5 of them in a line.
Hmm, that is for Dan to confirm.

 

[Throwaway10825]

I reread my example and it was a bit confusing, I meant 4 wilds and a Q(the card value, not the top symbol). In that case would you get a full line of Qs or would you get a 4oak wilds?

The wilds don't have there own set pays, but they substitute for any symbol, and each line pays the highest possible pay so shouldn't the wild substitute for a Cleopatra in this instance and the instance with 4 scarabs and a letter after that. The Book of Dead paytable is the same as this in how it's presented with wilds not having their own paytable. In Book Of Dead, if you have 4 books in a line and a letter symbol after that, you get 100x + 20x for the line of books and it ignores the letter symbol on the end.

 

[eizei]

Hey Dan great to see you back. My question is what are the chances of triggering the progressive free spins in Da Vinci once you've hit the 3 scatter trigger? I've heard someone say it's 1/12 but I have no idea whether that's accurate.

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi Throwaway10825,

So I talked with our product team and in freespins mode, it does not act as wild for the expanding symbol. It would pay if you had 4 scatters in a row like a video you showed there and it would pay the value of what 4 scatters are worth on the pay table.

Br,

Daniel

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi Eizei,

I do not have the retrigger rates for Da Vinci sadly but it is quite hard since you get 12 spins and a lot higher multiplier so the potential of a big win increases a lot with a retrigger.

Br,

Daniel

 

[Throwaway10825]

Hi Throwaway10825,

So I talked with our product team and in freespins mode, it does not act as wild for the expanding symbol. It would pay if you had 4 scatters in a row like a video you showed there and it would pay the value of what 4 scatters are worth on the pay table.

Br,

Daniel

Thanks for reaching out to the team for me. I believe what you're responding to is the second screenshot I sent you? That screenshot was of a retrigger in a free spins bonus round and a line win on the reels with the expanding symbol.

My initial question was about the triggering spin, prior to a bonus round. The win involved 3 scatters on line 1 followed by a Q which paid as a 4oak Qs. I'm not entirely sure why it pays in this manner as 3oak Cleopatras pays 10x. With the 4 scatters in a line paying as 4oak Cleopatra + 4 scatter trigger pay, sort of confused on why that logic doesn't apply in the case of 3 scatters in a line.

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[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi Throwaway10825,

The reason why you only got for the scatter is that the scatters pays more than the 4 queens would have done on the same line and the same lime won't pay two times.

(I was wrong on this and the right answer is below)

Br,

Daniel

 

[Throwaway10825]

That line didn't pay for me for the scatters, it paid me for the 4 queens. The stake is 30uB in this. That line paid me for the 4 queens(120) + trigger(60). If the 3 scatters pay more than the 4 queens would, it should pay 3 scatters(300) + trigger(60).

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

That line didn't pay for me for the scatters, it paid me for the 4 queens. The stake is 30uB in this. That line paid me for the 4 queens(120) + trigger(60). If the 3 scatters pay more than the 4 queens would, it should pay 3 scatters(300) + trigger(60).

Hi Throwaway10825,

I must have misunderstood your question and I am talking with our support and I will just ask a few questions in PM to you to clear it up. When we have the answer it will also be posted here.

Br,

Daniel

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi all,

So I have talked with our team and this is how it works and I was wrong in my first statement.

In the base game, you get paid for the line and the scatter trigger. So in the screenshot, you provided it paid 120 (4 Queens) + 15 ( 3 Queens) + 60 ( 3x Scatters). So in total, you got paid 195.

The scatter will act as wild for connecting wins so in this case, you had connecting wins on with Queens on Line 1 and 10 and the scatters itself has its own trigger value and will not transform into the highest paying symbol.

In the bonus game, the scatters will not act as substituting wild for the expanding symbol but it will for the rest but it's only for connecting lines.

Br,

Daniel

 

[Throwaway10825]

Hey Dan,

Thanks for clearing everything up, I appreciate you speaking with the team multiple times to get it all squared away.

Does anyone know if BoD would pay this the same way or would it pay the 10x + feature trigger?

"In the bonus game, the scatters will not act as substituting wild for the expanding symbol but it will for the rest but it's only for connecting lines. "

This interaction doesn't make much sense to me and nothing in the rules seem to indicate this would happen. It's hard to imagine this actually effecting the payout for most free spin rounds, but would be spew-worth for certain instances ie. if you rolled in a 5oak of Anubis with 3 wilds and he was the expanding symbol. You'd expect a 200x win but end up getting a 5x win.

 

[NJLowRoller]

Does the Ancient Egypt game vary in the RTP alloted to bonus rounds vs. base game in comparison to Book of Dead?

 

[robby811]

When will the new Slot Egyptian Fortune released @Dan_Pragmatic looks pretty nice

 

[nikantw]

I did it again! Perhaps I should stop trying them with fun money and go straight to real play
In my first ever 50 spins I hit the jackpot in Santa (fun play)

 

[robby811]

I did it again! Perhaps I should stop trying them with fun money and go straight to real play
In my first ever 50 spins I hit the jackpot in Santa (fun play)

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Where did you play it its not on VS? I cant find it

 

[nikantw]

Where did you play it its not on VS? I cant find it

It is not at Trada either.
Found it on Pragmatic site.

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

When will the new Slot Egyptian Fortune released @Dan_Pragmatic looks pretty nice

Hi robby811,

That slot is exclusive on Rank Casino right now and I do not have a date when we will release it on all casinos.

Br,

Daniel

 

[robby811]

Hi robby811,

That slot is exclusive on Rank Casino right now and I do not have a date when we will release it on all casinos.

Br,

Daniel

Ok thx for the Info.

 

[smart_croatia]

nice new layout I like it @Dan_Pragmatic gg

 

[Steviedoo]

Just a shout out...loving the new mustang gold slot.

Had lots of playtime on it at .25 a spin....and had a couple of 100x...and love that you can win the money without waiting for 6 boxes to appear like chilli gold or wolf gold.

 

[geordiecolin]

Just a shout out...loving the new mustang gold slot.

Had lots of playtime on it at .25 a spin....and had a couple of 100x...and love that you can win the money without waiting for 6 boxes to appear like chilli gold or wolf gold.

Oh,Videoslots have it so I may give it a try later
I hope that your back to good health now Dan?

 

[Adriana B]

Just a shout out...loving the new mustang gold slot.

Had lots of playtime on it at .25 a spin....and had a couple of 100x...and love that you can win the money without waiting for 6 boxes to appear like chilli gold or wolf gold.

Wow. I will never play this game again. Dropped $20 last night and another $20 today. I do not feel it has much potential. Well, I pretty much had no payouts. Prefer chili gold where payouts are much better.

 

[Steviedoo]

Wow. I will never play this game again. Dropped $20 last night and another $20 today. I do not feel it has much potential. Well, I pretty much had no payouts. Prefer chili gold where payouts are much better.

I much prefer this slot. It helps I won the minor jp and I hit 100x bet more than once.

 

[robby811]

I much prefer this slot. It helps I won the minor jp and I hit 100x bet more than once.

Only good thing is the collect Slot

 

[Adriana B]

I just collected on the shite rewards. Never collected on the big amounts. OK may give it another try if Dan puts in on a promo but I did not have good luck on it

 

[nikantw]

Mustang Gold feels to me like the Bonanza math model. Many small wins up to 200x, and chance for wins all the way up to even 12,000x but very vere very rare.
So if how Bonanza plays is something you like, maybe this is for you.

I need to try this more. Most of the RTP seems to be in the "money symbol", the one that also gives the jackpot and most of the good payouts.
Chance for a jackpot is close to 1/4000, chance for a 100x win close to 1/3000. Free spin bonus is around 1/120.
I need to play this more to be sure.

So you can imagine how hard the 12,000x is, you need to get 12 jackpots at the same spin and you need all 12 of them to be 1000x!

 

[Dan_Pragmatic]

Hi all,

It is nice to see that some of you have tried our latest slot Mustang Gold! This slot is something we have been excited about to release and there will be a promo soon on Mustang Gold!

I also want to give an update! Almost everyone has received their payments now and there are a few still left to solve and this should be sorted this week. I would also like to give an update on what we have done from our side to make sure that things are swifter in the future.

- A few fantastic members have contacted me and they have told me they can assist in helping paying members if we would struggle. This is an option if the member that wins feels that they can trust the person that offered the service.
- We have hired a person in my team to help me to follow up on things such as ordering prizes and follow up that payments get done. The role that I got has grown so quickly and there hasn't been enough time for me to do everything my self.
- SLA with our payments team will be 3 working days. So from I make the request to the payments team until it will be paid from our side should not take longer than 3 days on a Monday - Friday.


Thank you, everyone, again for the patience and understanding during November and December and let's make 2019 a fantastic year with promotions, new slots and all the feedback that we can get!

Br,

Daniel

 

[robby811]

Hi all,

It is nice to see that some of you have tried our latest slot Mustang Gold! This slot is something we have been excited about to release and there will be a promo soon on Mustang Gold!

I also want to give an update! Almost everyone has received their payments now and there are a few still left to solve and this should be sorted this week. I would also like to give an update on what we have done from our side to make sure that things are swifter in the future.

- A few fantastic members have contacted me and they have told me they can assist in helping paying members if we would struggle. This is an option if the member that wins feels that they can trust the person that offered the service.
- We have hired a person in my team to help me to follow up on things such as ordering prizes and follow up that payments get done. The role that I got has grown so quickly and there hasn't been enough time for me to do everything my self.
- SLA with our payments team will be 3 working days. So from I make the request to the payments team until it will be paid from our side should not take longer than 3 days on a Monday - Friday.


Thank you, everyone, again for the patience and understanding during November and December and let's make 2019 a fantastic year with promotions, new slots and all the feedback that we can get!

Br,

Daniel

Nice News Cheers Dan

 

[TheAverageGuy]

You know.. just another day in the life of a genuine superhero.

Cheers!