General Election 2019 thread

[slot_zombie]

I personally feel sorry for anyone who has to travel regularly on a train, unless travelling first class or Avanti.

Last train I got on featured a couple of scallies swigging down special brew, a pool of vomit on the floor and passenger doors that almost blew in every time another train went past. Then again I suppose I should be lucky I even got a seat at all, seeing as you often see people crammed into that little area between carriages, having to breathe in the noxious stench of the toilet.

It's a good point, and I would like to know why are there so many people in the UK whose planning and organising skills are SO poor, that they have to regularly take a dump in a train toilet ffs? Can't even go into a McDonalds restroom without someone huffing, farting and plopping away in the cubicle either. What's wrong with people?

Morning shit then shower - done for the day, and not responsible for any embarrassing "public nuisance" anal evacuations. Not difficult is it.

 

[goatwack]

I think bowel incompetence is a global issue, not just a UK one to be fair. Unless this is a Brexit thing again

 

[dunover]

It's a good point, and I would like to know why are there so many people in the UK whose planning and organising skills are SO poor, that they have to regularly take a dump in a train toilet ffs? Can't even go into a McDonalds restroom without someone huffing, farting and plopping away in the cubicle either. What's wrong with people?

Morning shit then shower - done for the day, and not responsible for any embarrassing "public nuisance" anal evacuations. Not difficult is it.

Yes, it's better not to reverse those two of 'the three sh's'.....

I would savour a guess that it's overweight or over-eaters that need to dump more than once a day, aside from having a bug in which case they should stay at home. Like you, a sunrise evacuation does me for the day (solids-wise, not gaseous emissions) and I eat sensibly in general. I think you're being a little unfair as the MacDonald's clientele tends to be 'heavy' by the very fact they frequent the place so you would expect multiple daily deposits from the patrons.

May I suggest you enter the MacDonald's khazi with noice-cancelling ear buds in future, or go somewhere more upmarket like Nando's? I have to say, that even on long overland trips (say 10 hours Amsterdam or 19 hours Berlin) I never once deposited in the coach or train facilities.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I think the Pincher business will be what finally does for Johnson, he's just lost Sajid Javid, rumours abound that more resignations are to come, Johnson has simply thrown too many people under the bus now, sending ministers out to lie on his behalf over the last couple of days, when it has now been proved that he knew about Pincher's sexual misconduct all along, including when he appointed him, could be the final straw.

I hope it is, the sooner the Tories do the decent thing and get rid of the worst Prime Minister the UK has ever had, the better.

Also did you see the cabinet meeting this morning? Fucking hell, you can tell they all absolutely hate the sight of him by this point.

Every single warning that was given about how awful Johnson would be as Prime Minister has come true. How fitting that one of the main architects and enablers of Brexit, and then of course the truly disastrous 'deal' he struck for the UK, should be destroyed so soon afterwards by yet another mountain of lies and betrayals. (Which of course, is exactly what Brexit was too.)

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Fuck me Sunak's just gone as well, that's it, Johnson's done.

 

[goatwack]

Was just going to reveal my shock at Javid's resignation, as I thought he'd handled his post well. About to muse on that being the 'solitary' high-profile casualty, but then see you type about Sunak!

That's.....'quite the day'. If Johnson doesn't resign, they'll have to send in the men in white coats to drag him out!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

IF ONLY SOMEONE, ANYONE, HAD WARNED US.

Every. Single. Word. Of. This.

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[goatwack]

I genuinely thought Partygate was to be his undoing, but there is just no way that position's tenable now. He'll probably drag it out though, until the only person left in his entourage is the tea lady

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Go on Boris call a snap election, take the whole Tory party down with you, that'd be good.

Or just refuse to resign and limp on, dragging the party deeper and deeper into the mud and shit every single day.

Also, worth remembering:

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Made me chortle.

I was going to watch that Sherwood on iPlayer this evening, but nothing can be even as remotely entertaining and fascinating as the news at the moment, so I'll watch that instead whilst playing emulated fruit machines.

I might take another punt at winning a progressive at 3Dice too, because today is feeling like a day for good things to happen.

 

[goatwack]

Can't disagree with that. Whilst indeed impactful, Sunak bailing in the midst of national financial meltdown, and Javid's escape as the NHS toils in uncertainty, doesn't exactly scream 'stunning and brave'.

Coupled with their knowing of Boris' dealings, all the while being able to pack in their jobs and sulk in one of their many properties with millions in the bank no doubt. So now we're all in a quandary, and stuck with a dead duck PM. Hurrah!

To Snap Election, or not.....?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'll tell you what though, I'm glad we avoided chaos with Ed Miliband.

That's the best thing about the Tories, they always keep the ship on such an even keel, as you'd expect from the natural party of government.

And remember folks, the path to where we are now was laid by David Cameron and his referendum.

 

[pinnit2014]

Feel like I've walked in the middle of a Chopley Wet Dream

*backs out of room, hoping no one has noticed the door needed WD40*

 

[goatwack]

Listen, Chopley deserves his moment. It's the happiest I've ever seen him!

 

[kennygamerboy]

Fuck me Sunak's just gone as well, that's it, Johnson's done.

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rats jumping off a sinking ship. they are both self serving ass holes as well

 

[paul7388]

Listen, Chopley deserves his moment. It's the happiest I've ever seen him!

Just hope Brexit never effected the supply of Kleenex to IOM lol.

 

[kennygamerboy]

Can't disagree with that. Whilst indeed impactful, Sunak bailing in the midst of national financial meltdown, and Javid's escape as the NHS toils in uncertainty, doesn't exactly scream 'stunning and brave'.

Coupled with their knowing of Boris' dealings, all the while being able to pack in their jobs and sulk in one of their many properties with millions in the bank no doubt. So now we're all in a quandary, and stuck with a dead duck PM. Hurrah!

To Snap Election, or not.....?

nadine dorries is apparently gonna be the new health sec from one wrongun to another

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'm half expecting Dorries to resign by mistake because she's so stupid.

 

[goatwack]

I'm About To Get Re-shuffled, Get Me Out Of Here!

 

[slot_zombie]

Well it won't (shouldn't) force an election just because Johnson is off.

Perhaps they will find an actual Conservative for the PM job this time. Can't think of any immediate candidates, all a bit limp - we need strong leadership and a barrier in the English Channel.

 

[goatwack]

I reckon Gove's probably got some designs on the role, upon the resignation announcements his face must've lit up like a Christmas tree. He'll go(ve) next, then maybe Zahawi.

Maybe time for the triumphant return of IDS?

 

[slot_zombie]

Maybe time for the triumphant return of IDS?

Oh, fuck off... :machinegunner:

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Boris will cling on. He's a hardy soul.

Truss will probably get a promotion to chancellor?

 

[goatwack]

But it's about as open a rebellion as you'll get, and sign that he's lost the party's faith in him. If he clings on there's nothing particularly admirable about that, with each passing gaffe he loses that little bit more authority.

Prior to today's events there'd already been talk of another Vote of No Confidence as it is. He's a busted flush, there's no surviving this

 

[Mr_Slot5]

But it's about as open a rebellion as you'll get, and sign that he's lost the party's faith in him. If he clings on there's nothing particularly admirable about that, with each passing gaffe he loses that little bit more authority.

Prior to today's events there'd already been talk of another Vote of No Confidence as it is. He's a busted flush, there's no surviving this

He'll carry on as far as he can IMO. The more immediate risk is a complete fracture of the Tory party IMO.

I thought he couldn't be challenged in a no confidence vote again for a year after the last one? Though I think I heard parts of the party want to push through a rule change? It'd be quite ironic that the very same people lambasting the government for rule changes to suit the UK in terms of Brexit and the electoral system will be all for this particular rule change. Hypocrisy all over.

 

[Kroffe]

He's a busted flush, there's no surviving this

Dick move by Boris imo.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Well it won't (shouldn't) force an election just because Johnson is off.

Perhaps they will find an actual Conservative for the PM job this time. Can't think of any immediate candidates, all a bit limp - we need strong leadership and a barrier in the English Channel.

The one on the left or right of BoJo?

 

[goatwack]

Lord Buckethead has to be serious contender at this point. If Boris Johnson got in, anyone can

 

[goatwack]

Okey dokey then. Boris wasting no time in giving Zahawi Sunak's old job and shuffling around his manky pack!

Looks like he'll cling on like we all suspected he would, oblivious to all around him. Zahawi could quit in the next five minutes and it still wouldn't register with him ?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Okey dokey then. Boris wasting no time in giving Zahawi Sunak's old job and shuffling around his manky pack!

Looks like he'll cling on like we all suspected he would, oblivious to all around him. Zahawi could quit in the next five minutes and it still wouldn't register with him ?

From a purely selfish perspective this is great, Johnson is essentially toxic radioactive waste at this point, the longer he stays in No10 the more he pollutes the Tory party, and if he leads it into the next election, even better.

BUT even I have to concede it'd be far better if he resigned, yes it might be better for the Tories overall (Johnson is far more unpopular than the Tories themselves), but there comes a point where you have to consider how damaging it is for the country to have a lame duck Prime Minister heading up a deeply divided, paralysed and fractured party that effectively can't govern.

If he had a shred of decency he'd resign, but then he's a narcissistic cheating liar, always has been, he won't change now, he doesn't give a shit about how much he damages the country or his party, so he'll cling on with his cabal of desperados, whatever the cost (that everyone else will have to pay).

Any other Prime Minister would have resigned already, I still don't really see a way for him to survive beyond the short term, so to my mind all he's doing is prolonging the inevitable as the badly damaged ships of his party and country continue to take on water, but we shall see.

 

[slot_zombie]

I don't want to live here any more

 

[goatwack]

I don't want to live here any more

You don't live anywhere! You're flipping undead!!

 

[slot_zombie]

You don't live anywhere! You're flipping undead!!

Are you implying that I don't have the right to be housed, just because I self-identify as a zombie? Careful, now...

 

[goatwack]

A lot of penmanship in Downing St. today, with Boris' heartfelt letter to Sunak revealed:

(shortened)

Dear Rishi,

I was sorry to receive your letter resigning from the Government.

I have enormously valued your advice and deep commitment to public service and will miss working with you in government.

Yours ever,

Boris Johnson

And of course to Javid:

(shortened)

Dear Saj,

Thank you for your letter this evening tendering your resignation. I was very sorry to receive it.

You will be greatly missed, and I look forward to your contribution from the backbenches.

Yours ever,

Boris Johnson

 

[Webzcas]

 

[ChopleyIOM]

She Tweeted this earlier today, and then quickly deleted it, presumably when someone pointed out to her that Nadhim Zahawi is the new Chancellor, not the new Health Secretary.....

The abuse Diane Abbott used to get for a fucking fraction of this shit.....

 

[Webzcas]

Popcorn at the ready for PMQ's :-D

 

[slot_zombie]

Six more ministers resigned en masse. How is he still in position?

edit: Now Gove is sticking the knife in too (15:15pm).

 

[goatwack]

He's being grilled by a committee of MPs, live?

So far I'm seeing nervous shuffling, lots of "Well err, uhmm, piffle wiffle, D.U.D.E errm" and that trademark Boris charm, which he's realized isn't going to work here, and more evasive answers than you can shake a stick at,

I may have missed PMQs, but this'll do nicely

 

[mack341]

I've had moments of calling boris all the names under the sun, however presently something doesn't sit right for me with this mass resignation ploy.

They were okay to carry on after the lockdown party stuff came out and the reports on that, then boris won his vote of confidence, then they lost a few [2?] by-elections and then they discovered a gay groper amongst the ranks

I suspect something else must be going on, remainers who don't like the plans to change the NI protocol, or these MPs don't like carrie having too much input, or Boris won't be able to enforce future lockdowns due to not having followed the last ones, there's got to be a catalyst we're not seeing or hearing about. [imo]

 

[slot_zombie]

1:3 he's gone by 9pm. (18+only, gamble responsibly, max stake £1, licensed by 1603JAZ))

 

[pinnit2014]

Thankfully it looks like the beginning of the end in a very embarrassing footnote in UK politics.

Nothing like a dead fish wiggling though and all and sundry coming in to finish it off.

Meanwhile Sturgeon is heard going : Fuck, keep him in, i need him in power!

 

[Mr_Slot5]

I've had moments of calling boris all the names under the sun, however presently something doesn't sit right for me with this mass resignation ploy.

They were okay to carry on after the lockdown party stuff came out and the reports on that, then boris won his vote of confidence, then they lost a few [2?] by-elections and then they discovered a gay groper amongst the ranks

I suspect something else must be going on, remainers who don't like the plans to change the NI protocol, or these MPs don't like carrie having too much input, or Boris won't be able to enforce future lockdowns due to not having followed the last ones, there's got to be a catalyst we're not seeing or hearing about. [imo]

Something doesn’t sit right with me either about all of this. I’m not sure after the initial elation of Johnson going (for some) there will be that much to cheer about going forward.

A lot of people are going to come to realise that Boris isn’t the sole source of all our current ills.

 

[goatwack]

Best thing about this MP cross-examination is how it appears the answers not being pre-prepared.

Kudos to 'Diane', who made him so uncomfortable about Home Office cuts and application times, and the cut-throat question of "Did you meet Alexander Lebedev when foreign Secretary, in 2018? Yes or No?"

"Uhm, err, I can't remember uhm, I'd have to consult my records about the specifics"

"So you did meet with him?"

"Probably"

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I've had moments of calling boris all the names under the sun, however presently something doesn't sit right for me with this mass resignation ploy.

They were okay to carry on after the lockdown party stuff came out and the reports on that, then boris won his vote of confidence, then they lost a few [2?] by-elections and then they discovered a gay groper amongst the ranks

I suspect something else must be going on, remainers who don't like the plans to change the NI protocol, or these MPs don't like carrie having too much input, or Boris won't be able to enforce future lockdowns due to not having followed the last ones, there's got to be a catalyst we're not seeing or hearing about. [imo]

It's very simple, Tory MPs were happy to ignore all of Johnson's deplorable and very well known traits when he was an 'ELECTION WINNER', it didn't matter how low he sunk, how much he debased British politics or institutions (lying to the Queen, anyone?......), and how much vile, horrible, corrupt shit he got up to, and allowed to happen on his watch, as long as he kept their greasy, grubby, immoral hides in power.

However now Johnson is clearly an 'ELECTION LOSER', so all of a sudden they've decided to do the right thing (lols) and resign en masse to force him out.

This is nothing more than a mass arse saving exercise by a bunch of Tory rats deserting the ship.

No need to look for 'REMAINERS' here mack, as much as I know you like to see them everywhere, the answer is very simple, the Tories have always been utterly and completely ruthless when a leader becomes seen to be a liability, and getting rid of that leader.

This is pretty much par for the course.

 

[mack341]

Just having a look at the various tory MP twitter acounts, interesting point here, maybe boris is too much of a clique man rather than appointing folk who are suited for the role in question.

 

[goatwack]

I think he likes to surround himself with sycophants and admirers almost, as opposed to ministers who might cause friction in cabinet. And yet, great teams can be forged with people you don't like on a personal level. He simply lacks professionalism.

Not to mention his liking of having ready-made scapegoats, like Priti Patel, who's so far out of her depth, yet useful to have when things get spicy. Same as Dopey Dorries etc

 

[mack341]

It's very simple, Tory MPs were happy to ignore all of Johnson's deplorable and very well known traits when he was an 'ELECTION WINNER', it didn't matter how low he sunk, how much he debased British politics or institutions (lying to the Queen, anyone?......), and how much vile, horrible, corrupt shit he got up to, and allowed to happen on his watch, as long as he kept their greasy, grubby, immoral hides in power.

However now Johnson is clearly an 'ELECTION LOSER', so all of a sudden they've decided to do the right thing (lols) and resign en masse to force him out.

This is nothing more than a mass arse saving exercise by a bunch of Tory rats deserting the ship.

No need to look for 'REMAINERS' here mack, as much as I know you like to see them everywhere, the answer is very simple, the Tories have always been utterly and completely ruthless when a leader becomes seen to be a liability, and getting rid of that leader.

This is pretty much par for the course.

Apparently most of those resigning were remainers, I still think it's a possible background reason. Remainers are certainly rejoicing at the thought of Boris going, think that is fair to say.

The tories had an 80 seat majority, david cameron & may had 12 seats something like that, he's got a bit of leeway on the potential of a general election defeat, just look at the opposition, no way does the british public want an openly woke labour party in power, going on about pronouns and gender etc..

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I think he likes to surround himself with sycophants and admirers almost, as opposed to ministers who might cause friction in cabinet. And yet, great teams can be forged with people you don't like on a personal level. He simply lacks professionalism.

Not to mention his liking of having ready-made scapegoats, like Priti Patel, who's so far out of her depth, yet useful to have when things get spicy. Same as Dopey Dorries etc

He likes to surround himself with people who are even shitter than he is, people who know that without him, they wouldn't get anywhere near a UK Government's cabinet, hence the bunch of third and fourth rate incompetents who have been elevated to cabinet, and who know that if they don't show loyalty, they'll be kicked out on their arses because the only reason they're there is to make Johnson look good.

A million miles away from Thatcher, who consistently had real political heavyweights in her cabinets, who were prepared to challenge and disagree with her - it's well known that the thing she hated the most was simpering sycophants.

 

[slot_zombie]

no way does the british public want an openly woke labour party in power, going on about pronouns and gender etc..

You got that right. Shitting on us while simultaneously dropping #blm #transrights #refugeeswelcome hashtags - about as welcome as Covid-19.