GAMSTOP forgot to register my details

[Nicola]

Also noticed, that the big UK bookmakers are paying for traffic on self exclusion terms

 

[Jono777]

How does Gamstop, stop a total addict walking into a bookies or arcade they've never set foot in before and blowing £1,000's on those awful FOBT's / B3's ?

Tools are great, compassion is great, understanding is great, will power and self responsibility are also great when used, or at least tried.

 

[colinsunderland]

How does Gamstop, stop a total addict walking into a bookies or arcade they've never set foot in before and blowing £1,000's on those awful FOBT's / B3's ?

Tools are great, compassion is great, understanding is great, will power and self responsibility are also great when used, or at least tried.

They don't but online is much easier than in store.
I could deposit and lose £50k before the morning online, no problem.
I have about £100 cash in my pocket and could get £500 from the cashpoint, thats all I could lose tomorrow in store, unless I go into town, into a branch, and even then couldn't get £50k out over the counter straight away.
If someone wants to gamble, no amount of tools or anything will stop them, no different to drink or drug addictions, but if you put enough barriers in the way, it gives the person more time to think about what they are doing before they make mistakes.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Also noticed, that the big UK bookmakers are paying for traffic on self exclusion terms

Hi Nicola,

I’m not sure that’s too fair, as a seasoned member and one who understands online marketing you will know that this will be a broad match on the term ‘gambling’ rather than targeting anyone with a gambling problem. If you search for ‘banana banana gambling’ I am sure these ads will still appear.

It’s a fair point though and perhaps there is a way to exclude a search term including ‘self exclusion’ but I am not sure.

I’ll do some checks from our side to see what’s possible.

Mark

 

[Playford7]

As is compassion for others it seems.
The dude signed up for a gambling blocking service, how much more personal responsibility would you like him to take? Should he set his computer on fire? Cut off his hands? Move to a desert island?
It's not his fault the industry has implemented a damn useless implementation.
I just hope no-one you know develops an addiction and has to listen to the above kind of horsesh*t from you.

Good reply and I understand totally.
I came across most poor.
And after reflection agree with most you say, that said I do think gambling is a personal choice, harder for some than others to control I get that, no offence was intended to anyone.

 

[TheresNoDInBonanza]

Hi Nicola,

I’m not sure that’s too fair, as a seasoned member and one who understands online marketing you will know that this will be a broad match on the term ‘gambling’ rather than targeting anyone with a gambling problem. If you search for ‘banana banana gambling’ I am sure these ads will still appear.

It’s a fair point though and perhaps there is a way to exclude a search term including ‘self exclusion’ but I am not sure.

I’ll do some checks from our side to see what’s possible.

Mark

Hi Mark, actually it is entirely fair.
You bid for all Google keywords and you can also exclude yourself from showing up for certain words or phrases. My wife's business is relatively small but they still have over 500 carefully curated search terms to include and exclude.

It's no mistake.

 

[deaconk78]

i unfortunately am an addict. i self excluded from slots (bear goat or tiger but not human) and also signed up and registered with gamstop . few weeks ago i signed up to crackpotjotty ( not trying to promote so changing names of sites ) with my partners details but used my debit card and name to deposit . i have no chance to win but i just want to spin . why does the site allow me to deposit when i am self excluded from the address on the account and the name on my debit card . Neither system appears to work . One doesn't wanna know if you log in to your old account and the other doesn't care as long as they can take your money.

addiction is an illness . will power used to work and it does at first but you are just blanking out the shit but passing it elsewhere . i'm currently sat with a 70cl bottle of bourbon . you can block out as much shite as you want but until you deal with the central problem then gamstop and self exclusion isn't going to be effective -they just make it so that casinos can profit from your ability to never win .

 

[Harry_BKK]

i unfortunately am an addict. i self excluded from slots (bear goat or tiger but not human) and also signed up and registered with gamstop . few weeks ago i signed up to crackpotjotty ( not trying to promote so changing names of sites ) with my partners details but used my debit card and name to deposit . i have no chance to win but i just want to spin . why does the site allow me to deposit when i am self excluded from the address on the account and the name on my debit card . Neither system appears to work . One doesn't wanna know if you log in to your old account and the other doesn't care as long as they can take your money.

addiction is an illness . will power used to work and it does at first but you are just blanking out the shit but passing it elsewhere . i'm currently sat with a 70cl bottle of bourbon . you can block out as much shite as you want but until you deal with the central problem then gamstop and self exclusion isn't going to be effective -they just make it so that casinos can profit from your ability to never win .

GamStop and SE should always be regarded as nothing more than aids at curbing or fighting your addiction. They are never the solution.

You should install an app on all your devices that stops access to gambling sites, a selection can be found here:

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Next you should cede control over your finances to your partner or a person of trust - meaning no credit/debit cards, no access to online banking, no access to over the counter withdrawals and only "daily pocket money" for your daily expenses such as food, cigs etc. You might squander the 10 - 20 quid a few times at the local bookies but soon you'll realize that you will have the rest of the day with nothing in your pocket or stomach, no smokes etc. (assuming your partner or chosen person of trust stays firm).

Last but not least, make a plan how to repay your debts and put a time limit to it. Gamblers will only act under some pressure.

Finally, join a help group if your addiction is so advanced that you feel you won't make it by yourself.