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I had an interesting experience at Golden Reef Casino. This casino has been blacklisted by multiple groups, so I did not have high expectations. They offer a $100 100% match bonus. I increased to $370 after a win and some playthough on FR, then cashed out my $100 deposit, losing my remaining bonus.

When I checked my account today, I found my $100 returned to my account. Support tells me I hd to meet the full playthough, even though they use the MG EZ bonus system, which allows you to cash out (and lose bonus $) at any time. I convinced them to restore my bonus as well. This apperantly reset my playthough back to the full $5000 (50x bonus, not usual MG 30x).

At this point my balance was $470. Taking advantage of the sticky bonus, I bet the max bet of $200 on a hand of ACBJ and won, increasing my balance to $670. Statistically, the best game to meet the playthough on was French Roulette. The expected loss was $115 (-$15 if cashable bonus is included). I lost approximately this amount. I should have ended above $600, but made some foolish large bets towards the end. At one point I asked a support rep how much I had to wager. He said I needed to get to $10,000 rather than $5,000. I called him on this, and he said he made a mistake and it was $5,000, as expected. I brought my total to $600 again playing BJ, then cashed out for a $500 gain on a $100 deposit.

Net Gain/Loss at Golden Reef: +$500
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$12,700
 
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aka23 said:
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$12,700
You make me ashamed to call myself a gambler! :eek2:
(It takes me ~ 3-years to win that much!)

If only I could treble my testicle size maybe I too could increase my max bet from $10 to $100 and follow your lead!
You are de man! :notworthy
 
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I never knew golden reef was rouged. That was the first MG caino I used to play at. I never had any problems with cashouts or anything there. I stopped playing there because they did not have as much of a game selection back then compared to others. Im sure they have changed that since then.

Ama
 
You make me ashamed to call myself a gambler! :eek2:
(It takes me ~ 3-years to win that much!)

If only I could treble my testicle size maybe I too could increase my max bet from $10 to $100 and follow your lead!
You are de man! :notworthy
Thanks. I'm up to +$13,200 now.

When I make a large bet, there is always a good statistical advantage. For example, take a MG EZ bonus casino offering a 150% bonus up to $150. If all $250 is bet, then a win brings the total to $500. If the bonus is cashed out at this point and not played through, there is an average gain of 0.5xB=$75 (either gain $250 or lose $100). If the bonus is played through after the bet on a 50% FR casino, the average gain increases to 0.595xB= $90. With King Neptune's 2/3 FR, the average gain increases to 0.696xB= $104.

I play with a slightly different stategy than above. I bet half on Atantic City BJ, so I have the opportunity to double/split on a good hand or surrender on a bad hand, I usually get to play more than one hand, and I am less likely to be limited by the 200 max bet. If I win on a double/split I stop. If I win on a regular bet, I bet half again and stop on a win. If I lose the first hand, I bet everything (not half) and start over on a win.
 
I never knew golden reef was rouged. That was the first MG caino I used to play at. I never had any problems with cashouts or anything there. I stopped playing there because they did not have as much of a game selection back then compared to others. Im sure they have changed that since then.

Ama
I don't think its been rougued on Casinomeister. Its been blacklisted on other sites for labeling players as bonus abusers and then not paying. I'm hoping that this won't be an issue so long as I limit myself to a single casino within the Casino Profit Share group.
 
I had an eventful lunch break. Note the changes with King Neptune's, Online Casino, and Authorian. I'll post more later.

Gains
1. King Neptune's: +~$1600 (New)
2. Casino.net: +~$1500
3. Winward: +~$1000 (Increase)
4. 888.com: +$925 (Increase)
5. Venetian (B&M Casino): +$750
5. USA Casino +$750 (New)
7. Casino Euro: +$640 (Increase)
8. Golden Rivera: +$600 (New)
9. Intercasino: +$540 (Increase)
10. Nine.com: +$530
10. Villento: +$530 (New)

Losses
1. Connecto: -$300
2. Luck N Roll: -$250
3. Cinema Casino: -$200 (New)
4. Online Casino: -$190 (New)
5. Omni Casino: -$100
5. Kiwi Casino: -$100
7: Sporting Odds: -$90
7. Planet Luck: -$90
9. Vegas Palms: -$50
9. Magic Oasis: -$50
9. Mummy's Gold: -$50
9. Sands: -$50
9. Palace of Chance: -$50 (New)
9. Aus Vegas: -$50 (New)
9. Authorian: -$50 (New)
 
I love this thread, keep it going... Fyi.. I went to casino glamor....BOO Hoo..no US players for money.... I played for free..Im crazy about their games! They are so different!
I also was not able to play at other casinos in that group. They changed their policies about US players within the past few weeks. This probably is related to the BoS arrest and/or pending legislation.
 
looking at the way you play reminds me of how I play when Im in the fun mode.
Maybe it is just having the guts to make the high bet on the high return games that makes the difference.
I played at a land casino for the last two days with my friend while on vacation, we played "milkmoney" (we love the features and bonus rounds) for pennies...two moms playing 20 to 40cents per spin lol.... not much happening in the win margin but by golly, a woman was sitting next to me playing max bet 400 ..started at 80.00 us and ended up with over 600.00 in less than an hour. She was sorta drunk and told me she would never have played that much normally but her husband was over at the 21 table loosing his and her shirt so she felt "oh what the heck" and it payed off!:)

Do you ever play slots? I noticed you mentioned war..any hints on which casino you like best for that?
 
looking at the way you play reminds me of how I play when Im in the fun mode.
Maybe it is just having the guts to make the high bet on the high return games that makes the difference.
That is absolutely true for the majority of my recent gains. The expected return increases as I increase bet size due to bonuses. For example take a typical 100% match MG bonus with 30x playthrough and FR counting 50% to wagering.

--The average return by only playing FR is 0.2xBonus

--The average return by betting it all (deposit and bonus) on a 1:1 bet before FR is 0.6xBonus. If the first bet is lost the return is -1xB. If the first is won, the gain is 2.2xB. The average return by betting it all on two sequential 1:1 bets before FR increases to 0.8xB, but the clear majority of the time, you will lose everything.

This looks good on paper, but playing and betting hundreds on a single hand is a different matter. I have built up a good sized bankroll in my Neteller account that is separate from my bank account. I am only risking gambling winning, so I am can accept the greater risk of loss.

Without bonuses or similar edge, there is not such an advantage to a larger bet, aside from getting more comps. Slots do appear to pay off more and get more large hits in fun mode because of remembering the big hits and ignoring the big losses with fun money.


Do you ever play slots? I noticed you mentioned war..any hints on which casino you like best for that?
I usually select games that give me the greatest advantage. I play war when I cannot play a lower house edge game or when my losses at lower house edge gains are far greater than statistically expected.

Having said that, I do enjoy slots. I have been playing Mad Hatters periodically. The win that inspired me to begin online gambling was playing slots at Vegas over Memorial Day weekend. I made a single bet of $1 before we left. That bet won $750, which was more than enough to pay for the full trip.
 
I have a lot of updates to post. I'll start with my gains/losses list. My overall gain is up to ~$15,500 now.

Gains of $500 or greater
1. King Neptune's: +~$1750 (New, Increased)
2. Casino.net: +~$1500
3. Winward: +~$1000 (Increase)
4. 888.com: +$925 (Increase)
5. Venetian (B&M Casino): +$750
5. USA Casino: +$750 (New)
7. Shark Casino: +$670 (New, Tonight)
8. Casino Euro: +$640 (Increase)
9. Golden Rivera: +$600 (New)
10. Jupiter Club: +$570 (New, Monday)
11. Intercasino: +$540 (Increase)
12. Nine.com: +$530
12. Villento: +$530 (New)
14. Sun Vegas: +$510 (New)
15. Golden Reef: +$500 (New)
15. Casino Vega: +$500 (New, Yesterday)

Losses of $100 or greater
1. Connecto: -$300
2. Luck N Roll: -$250
3. Cinema Casino: -$200 (New)
3. Trident Lounge: -$200 (New)
5. Online Casino: -$190 (New)
6. Omni Casino: -$100
6. Kiwi Casino: -$100
6. Crazy Vegas: -$100 (New)
6. Casino US: -$100 (New)
6. Crystal Palace -$100 (New)
 
I mentioned that #7 on the gains list at Shark Casino occurred tonight. Shark Casino uses RTG SW and offers a 200% bonus up to $400 with 30x playthrough. I usually stay away from such high playthrough and RTG software, but the 200% bonus was enough to take that risk.

Like many RTG casinos (Connecto, Prism, ...), I believe that Shark Casino BJ has non-random elements and is streaky. The purpose of this streakyness may be to increase the risk of busting and losing deposit. I quickly built my $600 to $1200 by taking adjusting bet size and taking advantage of the streakyness. I then restricted myself to low bets since my streakyness method involves periodic large bets. It was so annoying to see my bankroll rapidly decrease and seeing the dealer draw an assortment of cards to reach 21 several hands in a row. Each time I dropped down to $1000, I'd get myself back to $1000 by higher streaky bets. I had a scare where I could have lost everything, so I stopped only used low bets for the remaining $3000 wagering. I dropped from $1000 to $870 for a $670 gain.

After I get paid, I plan to request my full play logs, and go through them in detail. I expect that I can show that the chances of this being a truly random game are negligible.

Gain/Loss at Shark Casino: +$670
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$15,500
 
I don't always comment Aka, but I do enjoy reading your logs.

Looking back at my first year or so gambling online -- that, too, is when I had my biggest and best wins. Beginner's luck? Bonuses? Who knows...
 
Glad to see you are back..loved the log..love your bankroll! lol

Im not a high better (see my ..heart in mouth while playing bj thread) But I did go back to the land Casino and try the high bet with Milkmoney - Started with 100 was up $60 within 15min on highbets. Had to quit though because I was scared Id loose it all. So you are right, high betting makes a big difference .

When are you going to try INETBET? I dont work for them, but they work for me! I crash at the other top 2 but keep winning with them.

good luck and keep posting! :notworthy
 
I don't always comment Aka, but I do enjoy reading your logs.

Looking back at my first year or so gambling online -- that, too, is when I had my biggest and best wins. Beginner's luck? Bonuses? Who knows...
For me the difference is one-time sign on bonuses. I am running out of sign on bonuses, so my rate of gain should be slowing down. I have been averaging roughly +$5000 per month. I predict that I will not gain more than $3000 in the next 30 days.
 
Glad to see you are back..loved the log..love your bankroll! lol

Im not a high better (see my ..heart in mouth while playing bj thread) But I did go back to the land Casino and try the high bet with Milkmoney - Started with 100 was up $60 within 15min on highbets. Had to quit though because I was scared Id loose it all. So you are right, high betting makes a big difference .

When are you going to try INETBET? I dont work for them, but they work for me! I crash at the other top 2 but keep winning with them.

good luck and keep posting! :notworthy
It's great that you have done so well at INB, but some have not been so lucky. This is the casino that convinced Lord Have Mercy to give up gambling a few weeks ago and write, "I lost 2k to InetBet in a week playing BJ. I swear to God I have played my last gaming of online gambling. I am also writing my senator to ask to have this regulated or even banned!".

I've avoided INB because I believe RTG BJ is not purely random, and their sign on bonus was not impressive enough to try. Looking more closely at the casino, I see that they offer a small no deposit bonus. This is minimal risk, so I probably will give it a try.
 
King Neptune's sent me a "special" offer for a 100% match up to 25 GBP. I deposited with C2P this time to avoid Netellers 2.4% conversion fee for both deposits and withdrawls. C2P does not appear to have a conversion fee.

First I bet 25 on ACBJG and won, increasing my total to 75. Next I bet 37 on ACBJ (not G) and won, increasing my total to 112. Both of these bets were surprising wins as pictured in the attachments. I finished up my wagering on FR and ended at 120 GBP for a 95 GBP or ~$180 gain. Note that the balance in the attachments 94.50 because I cashed out a portion of my winnings.

I've played at this casino 5 times and made a large gain on my deposit each time. I've won more money at King Neptune's than any other casino. Aside from winning so much, I like this casino because of the outstanding player support. After winning so much, I was offered a special promotion like this. They are the only casino that admitted the MGBJG autoplay errors to me (mentioned in an early Aug post in log). They credited me 100% for all hands that I could have lost, and rounded up for good measure. The games are up to date, and they respond to support issues quickly. Bonuses are credited immediately, unlike most other MG casinos. Payouts are consistently quick. King Neptune's is close to replacing Intercasino as may favorite casino. I am not the only one who feels this way, as they won the "Best Casino Group 2005" award on this site.

Gain/Loss this session at King Neptune's: +$180
Overall Gain/Loss at King Neptune's: +~$1,930
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$15,700
 
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wow you have been doing well. How much above EV do you estimate you are doing?
That is difficult to estimate since I have played many times at many casinos with varying bet sizes. I'd guess somewhere between around about 1.6xEV overall (0.6EV above EV). However, only ~1SD above EV since a large portion of my big wins occurred with half bankroll bets.
 
Mansion recently offered me the following promotion. I keep thinking that there must be a catch, but I don't see it. What am I missing?

"Dear Member,

Simply visit the MANSION Sportsbook and place a minimum Point Spread (Handicap)
bet of USD 1,100 (or currency equivalent) to win USD 1,000 on the Pittsburgh Steelers
for their game on Thursday 7 Sept 2006. If your bet is not a winner, MANSION will
refund your losses of USD 1,100 (or currency equivalent) within 3 working days of the
result.

This deal is too good to miss. There’s no better way to kick off the NFL season and
no better place than at MANSION

Don’t miss out

The MANSION Team. "

The T&C is states
"This offer applies to bets placed on MANSION Sportsbook only and is limited to the team and selection specified. Bets placed on MANSION Sports Exchange will not qualify.

To qualify, Players must place a single Points Spread (Handicap) bet of USD 1,100 on Pittsburgh Steelers for their game on 7 Sep 2006

This offer is only available on the first bet placed for this event

To qualify for this promotion you must be 18 years of age or over and have agreed to the MANSION terms & conditions.

The promotion is valid from 25 Aug 2006.

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Players that bet both sides of the event with MANSION will not be eligible for a loss refund. "
 
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I played at Paradise 8 today. This is my first time using the rival SW group. The SW seems decent, and I like how you can play all games including Bacarrat to meet wagering. Nevertheless I selected war due to 1/3 the wagering requirements. I busted very quickly. What did it was a streak of losing 11 out of 12 sequential hands and a very high rate of losses following an increase in bet size. Its not enough hands to conclusive say that the SW is not random, but I'll probably never play at another Rival casino.

Gain/Loss this session at Paradise 8: -$50
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$15,650
 
HHHMMM, I think I found what you may have missed.

MANSION may at our sole discretion limit the eligibility of customers to participate in any promotion or bonus offer.

MANSION reserves the right to withdraw or amend this offer at any time without prior notice.

All decisions made by MANSION regarding this promotion shall be deemed final.



Right after the game you will get a letter that states.


[Satire]

Dear member,

We are sorry to advise you that your Bonus and withdrawal are being denied!!!!!!!!

The game was reviewed by our security staff and we have come to the conclusion that the bet was placed using skilled players. Not only that but we have reviewed numerous plays which we find suspicious and point to collusion of the players involved.

Ben Roethlisberger, Charlie Batch, Duce Staley and Verron Hayes were working together as a team at different points within the game sharing information which you are completely unaware of is against our quite hidden super secret amendment to our terms and conditions on the website but we emailed you a link to "Amended terms we don't publish, Section 12, Subsection 1834-1122.5" which states "Players acting as a team, wearing similiar clothes or players who know each other or live on the planet Earth can not be used to claim one of our bonus's and if such players enter the field of play you shall forfeit the bonus and we will lock you out of your account just because we feel like it."

Before you decide to contact us with any explanation we would like you to know that members of our audit team have been watching the play of Ben Roethlisberger and Duce Staley for several years and this game confirms that there is constant collusion going on between these players. The manner inwhich they play is not to our liking either and we deem it abusive. They worked together handing off the ball and grinding away the yardard a little bit at a time until they scored. This manner of play shows they are skilled players and we can not allow them to participate in our promotions any longer.


If you feel we may have reached this decision in error, please feel free to email us with any questions that you may have. We promise to promptly delete your emails and never respond.

Have a Great Day :-).

Support Guy 3 (auto responder)
***Contact me for a great bonus that you will never be able to cash out.

[/Satire]


Disclaimer: I am not bashing Mansion here, heck I don't even have an account with them but it is just a reflection of some of the reasons why I have seen Bonus's get denied in general. If I offended anyone at Mansion I will make sure to edit this post if I am not banned :-)
 
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Poor "Lord hve mercy"...I would be upset too!! Thats a LOT of money!
I dont play with bonuses anymore since I seem to have a low game time tolerance -I need to cash out when I HAVE TO.. Maybe Ill try KingNep without a bonus. (with a low deposit of course- I'd throw up with nerves if it was over $50)
I just messed up at Intercasino..using wizard strat no less! I did War first and came out ahead $20..sat on if for 1/2 hr,(Bad girl, should have cashed out.) came back and played blackjack. Lost one after another..sigh. Thought I was going to have a heart attack! Im sure they are a good casino but I dont have a good vibe with them I guess.
Thats gambling!:)
 
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I dont play with bonuses anymore since I seem to have a low game time tolerance -I need to cash out when I HAVE TO.

Frufru

I understand where you are coming from about not being forced to play long sessions. However, without bonuses you are going to lose money in the long run unless you are extraordinarily lucky.

If you don't want to do the WR in one session just break it up into many sessions, it's all the same in the end and you will always be playing with an advantage if you do this.

With a bonus you are the casino! Without a bonus you are a contributer to the internet casinos massive profits.

Mitch
 
Poor "Lord hve mercy"...I would be upset too!! Thats a LOT of money!
I dont play with bonuses anymore since I seem to have a low game time tolerance -I need to cash out when I HAVE TO.. Maybe Ill try KingNep without a bonus. (with a low deposit of course- I'd throw up with nerves if it was over $50)
There is no disadvantage to getting a bonus at King Neptune's (and many other MG casinos). You can cash out winnings at any time. The bonus becomes cash in $10 increments, as you meet a portion of the the playthrough. A more detailed description is at
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.


I just messed up at Intercasino..using wizard strat no less! I did War first and came out ahead $20..sat on if for 1/2 hr,(Bad girl, should have cashed out.) came back and played blackjack. Lost one after another..sigh. Thought I was going to have a heart attack! Im sure they are a good casino but I dont have a good vibe with them I guess.
Thats gambling!:)
I've busted there too. Overall its a top 11 gain for me, primarily because of their monthly match bonus. Most months I win. Occasionally I do not. The only two Cryptologic casinos where I have had suspicious losses with almost every hand are UKBetting and TotalBet. My losses occurred with the same group at the same time. I wonder if this relates to being from the US and US citizens not being allowed.
 
I've been gambling a lot today because my girlfriend has been withdrawn. She has hardly said anything to me and spent most of the day sleeping. This is quite a change from her usual behavior. I'm the one who withdraws when upset. She's the type who speaks her mind.

I just played at Slots Royale. They offer a unique series of three sign on bonuses:

First Deposit -- 50% of $50
Second Deposit -- 100% match of $100
Third Deposit -- 75% match of $150

The incremental bonuses and recent history with this group made me more cautious than usual, so I started with a $50 1/3 bankroll bet, rather than my usual half bankroll bet at ACBJG. I lost, dropping my total from $150 to $100. I repeated a $50 bet at ACBJ (not G). This time I got a BJ, increasing my balance to $175. I bet half on ACBJG and won, increasing my balance to $262. I was tempted to make a third half bankroll bet and would have if a larger portion of my cash was bonus $, but with 81% of my total being cashable, it just wasn't worth the risk. I played some VP, some Mad Hatters, and some more BJ; then cashed out at $260. I lost the bonus (did not complete $10 worth of playthrough), bringing my total to $210 for a gain of $110 on my $100 deposit.

Gain/Loss at Slots Royale: +$110
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$15,750
 
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HHHMMM, I think I found what you may have missed.





Right after the game you will get a letter that states.


[Satire]

Dear member,

We are sorry to advise you that your Bonus and withdrawal are being denied!!!!!!!!
That was funny. I hope that isn't the case. I checked out Mansion sports book and was not impressed. They don't even have the correct date listed on this game. It's listed ast 9/8 in Sportsbook, but it is actually on 9/7. I plan to call them and get more information.
 
I played at Casino Vega on Thursday. This is a unique casino using Parlay SW. After my $1000 gain at Winward, I have positive feelings about Parlay. Casino Vega's website lists a 200% bonus, but I could not find any relevant terms and condtions for the bonus. I did not even know the $ limit of the match. I emailed support. They replied:

"You must wager your deposit amount 15 times before you are allowed a
cashout, no bonus money can be withdrawn.

The 200% becomes available when you have wagered your deposit amount 15
times or if you should lose 95% if your deposit.

You must have made a deposit in the last 14 days to request a cashout.
You can find the full cashout rules here
http://www.casinovega.com/banking.asp?topic=cashout"

This banking area of the site lists a "$300 cap" on the new player bonus. Phone support later told me that the $300 cap refers to the deposit, so that they offer up to a $600 bonus. It was too late, as I already deposited $150 and received the $300 bonus.

The bonus system described above is unique. The bonus becomes available after wagering 15x deposit or if you lose 95% of deposit. The bonus is sticky and the max bet in the casino is $100 ($50 BJ or $100 in roulette), so the only way to use the bonus is to lose 95% of the deposit. Any winnings on a sticky bonus bet are cashable. For example, if you have a $100 sticky bonus and 0 cash, then bet a hand of BJ and lose, the bonus drops to $99. If you, then bet a hand and win, your total is $1 cash and $99 bonus. This is different from the typical sticky bonus where only totals above the $100 would be cashable. This is also different from the typical Parlay bonus where a qualified bonus remains in your account after making a withdrawl.

I completed the wagering with smaller bets. The SW is less impressive than I remember. BJ is very slow compared to other SW groups, both in the flash casino and the downloaded one. They don't offer Baccarat, like Winward does. They appear to offer craps, but the link to this game doesn't seem to work.

After meeting the wagering requirement, I then played some $50 hands of BJ, which is the max bet size, and realized this wasn't going to be enough. I need to bet the sticky bonus and win big. I switched to high roller roulette with a $100 be (max bet) on a 3:1 pay. I lost and won at about the expected rate. I dropped down to just $112 at one point, then worked my way back up to $662. All but $12 of the $662 was cashable since I bet $100 when I was at $112 of bonus, leaving me $650... a gain of $500 on my $100 deposit.

They have the same offer on a second deposit bonus. I received pop up windows about 300% deposit bonuses while playing, so I may be able to do this on a regular basis. Next time I plan to take a bigger risk with higher paying roulette bets.

Gain/Loss at Casino Vega: +$500
Overall Gain/Loss: +~$15,750 (current gain/loss, played on Thursday)
 
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fyodor

love your posts aka23, I copy them all for further study !
that part where you go from $112 to $662 is just LIKE YOU!
makes me think of that character in "The Gambler" who
goes from zilch to RICHES in roulette
 
:) Aka23.....I, just had to comment on your girlfriend being withdrawn..it must be bothering you otherwise you wouldnt have mentioned it...hope she's ok now.
My son started in on me about the time I spent on the computer when I first started playing. (he's a 6th grader). I now only play in the am when he's in bed and when he's not home. (Thank heaven for summer vacation he sleeps in)
I hope you are taking some of that hard won money and spending it on a nice romantic evening with her... winning takes concentration and long hours at the computer.. Make sure she dosnt feel neglected...better yet...
Give her a Neteller account and gift her with a crop O dollars to play with! Bring her on the forum !

I guess Ill try bonus's again.. thks for the info everyone
 
:) Aka23.....I, just had to comment on your girlfriend being withdrawn..it must be bothering you otherwise you wouldnt have mentioned it...hope she's ok now.
My son started in on me about the time I spent on the computer when I first started playing. (he's a 6th grader). I now only play in the am when he's in bed and when he's not home. (Thank heaven for summer vacation he sleeps in)
I hope you are taking some of that hard won money and spending it on a nice romantic evening with her... winning takes concentration and long hours at the computer.. Make sure she dosnt feel neglected...better yet...
Give her a Neteller account and gift her with a crop O dollars to play with! Bring her on the forum !
You hit the nail on the head with the reasons for the change. She has been living with me since her graduation in June. Around midnight on Saturday night, she said that she wanted to go home (her home). She was being uncommunicative the whole day, and this was probably an idle threat; so I was tempted to not make a big deal about it and let us spend some time apart, if it came to that. Nevertheless, I asked if she wanted to talk about it. She complained about me ignoring her and spending too much time gambling. Some of her comments were exaggerations or just plain wrong, but some were fair & accurate as well, such as me spending too much time on the computer/gambling. I agreed to make some changes, and things have been good since then.
 
love your posts aka23, I copy them all for further study !
that part where you go from $112 to $662 is just LIKE YOU!
makes me think of that character in "The Gambler" who
goes from zilch to RICHES in roulette
Thanks for the support. I was worried when I got down to $112... just one bet away from busting. Fortunately I won 3:1 on both that bet and the next one.
 
my hero

I have made my living as a software engineer(Motorola, Intel, USDoD),
horserace bettor, BJ counter and poker player for 35 years and my favorite
reading is personal narratives of gambling like "24/7" by Martinez

this log is the BOMB:D
 
I had my greatest cummulative loss ever today due to consistently losing at Slots Royalte, losing my 2nd deposit + bonus, losing my 3rd deposit+bonus, and losing my deposit method bonus. I have another $70 of bonus $ (no deposit or requirement to risk my own cash), so I have a chance to make up some of the loss.

I made two posts in the screenshots that suck thread showing the largest losses. I'll probably post a more detailed summary later. My cumulative Gain/Loss is down to +~$15,550. The updated largest gain/loss list is below:

Gains of $500 or greater
1. King Neptune's: +~$2150 (New, Increased today)
2. Casino.net: +~$1500 (Account Locked)
3. Winward: +~$1000 (Increase)
4. 888.com: +$925 (Increase)
5. Venetian (B&M Casino): +$750
5. USA Casino: +$750 (New)
6. Casino Euro: +$700 (Increased yesterday)
7. Shark Casino: +$670 (New)
9. Golden Rivera: +$600 (New)
10. Jupiter Club: +$570 (New)
11. Intercasino: +$540 (Increase)
12. Nine.com: +$530
12. Villento: +$530 (New)
14. Sun Vegas: +$510 (New)
15. Golden Reef: +$500 (New)
16. Casino Vega: +$500 (New)

Losses of $100 or greater
1. Slots Royale: -$500 (New, today)
1. Connecto: -$300
2. Luck N Roll: -$250
3. Cinema Casino: -$200 (New)
3. Trident Lounge: -$200 (New)
5. Online Casino: -$190 (New)
6. Omni Casino: -$100
6. Kiwi Casino: -$100
6. Crazy Vegas: -$100 (New)
6. Casino US: -$100 (New)
6. Crystal Palace -$100 (New)
 
I received 2 series of no risk (no deposit) bonuses at Slots Royale. I busted on the first $25 bonus losing 2 sequential BJ hands. Fortunately I did better on the second $50 bonus and cashed out with a $150 gain. SR is my largest cumulative loss, but significantly better than the post above:

Gains of $500 or greater
1. King Neptune's: +~$2150 (New, Increased today)
2. Casino.net: +~$1500 (Account Locked)
3. Winward: +~$1000 (Increase)
4. 888.com: +$925 (Increase)
5. Venetian (B&M Casino): +$750
5. USA Casino: +$750 (New)
6. Casino Euro: +$700 (Increased yesterday)
7. Shark Casino: +$670 (New)
9. Golden Rivera: +$600 (New)
10. Jupiter Club: +$570 (New)
11. Intercasino: +$540 (Increase)
12. Nine.com: +$530
12. Villento: +$530 (New)
14. Sun Vegas: +$510 (New)
15. Golden Reef: +$500 (New)
16. Casino Vega: +$500 (New)

Losses of $100 or greater
1. Slots Royale: -$350 (New, today)
1. Connecto: -$300
2. Luck N Roll: -$250
3. Cinema Casino: -$200 (New)
3. Trident Lounge: -$200 (New)
5. Online Casino: -$190 (New)
6. Omni Casino: -$100
6. Kiwi Casino: -$100
6. Crazy Vegas: -$100 (New)
6. Casino US: -$100 (New)
6. Crystal Palace -$100 (New)
 
I've been doing well with monthly bonuses/promotions as listed below. However, my overall gain is only up to +~$15,825 due to foolishly losing a huge sum at Villento. Villento moved from my top gain list to my largest loss with only about 15 minutes of playing (split over multiple sessions).

Intercasino: +$200 ($100 bonus)
Casino Lux: +$200 ($100 bonus)
Littlewoods: +$195 (25 GBP bonus)
Cyrstal Palace: +$150 (150% no playthrough bonus)
William Hill: +$75 ($40 bonus)

Note that all of the gains are well above the bonus size. The reason for this is streakyness. I never thought of Cryptologic casinos as streaky, but the non-random elements were undeniable at Littlewoods and suspicious at Intercasino and William Hill. At Littlewoods I gained $195 on a $47.50 bonus by simply increasing bet size during winning streaks and betting the minimum at other times. I'm glad I didn't give up after I only won 1 of the first 18 hands. I gained 200% of the bonus at Intercasino, Casino Lux, and William Hill using a similar strategy.
 
Maybe I should switch to AC BJ when making my large bets for microgaming bonuses. After two more such bets today, I have now made 12 deposits of $200 or more to claim bonuses for microgaming casinos. For 8 of the deposits I bet the entire deposit and bonus on one hand of baccarat, and incredibly I lost every single time. The other 4 I played on vegas strip BJ with betting half of my bankroll on the first hand, and busted without doubling up on all of those too. The best I have done is to win one of my first hands where I bet 50% of my bankroll, but I was trying to double so I kept betting and ended up busting there too. Luckily I've done pretty well at some other casinos so I am still a little bit up over this period, but doing this has decimated my profits. I seriously doubt that any microgaming software casinos are rigged, but I don't know how many more losses in a row I can take. Nice to see at least someone is winning with this strategy though.
 
Maybe I should switch to AC BJ when making my large bets for microgaming bonuses. After two more such bets today, I have now made 12 deposits of $200 or more to claim bonuses for microgaming casinos. For 8 of the deposits I bet the entire deposit and bonus on one hand of baccarat, and incredibly I lost every single time. The other 4 I played on vegas strip BJ with betting half of my bankroll on the first hand, and busted without doubling up on all of those too. The best I have done is to win one of my first hands where I bet 50% of my bankroll, but I was trying to double so I kept betting and ended up busting there too. Luckily I've done pretty well at some other casinos so I am still a little bit up over this period, but doing this has decimated my profits. I seriously doubt that any microgaming software casinos are rigged, but I don't know how many more losses in a row I can take. Nice to see at least someone is winning with this strategy though.
Wow! I'm sorry to hear that. I've won more than half of such large bets at MG casinos and all bets involving a full bankroll double. I've only made one maximum baccarat bet ($500) and it was a win. However, there have been two MG casino groups where I have lost the majority of the time and a couple with suspicious losses. At which casinos did you have your large losses?
 
Three weekly match bonuses at Villento

Sign-up bonuses from four casinos in the Grand Prive group (Jupiter Club, Lake Palace, Bella Vegas, Casino Grand Bay)

Two reload bonuses from Casino Grand Bay

Cinema Casino sign-up bonus
UK Casino Club sign-up bonus in GBP
King Neptune's sign-up bonus


I should mention I have had success with such bets for smaller amounts at other MG casinos. But often with the smaller bonuses I would bet on single numbers in roulette, which with max bets would allow 3-1 or better wins on my whole bankroll. This wouldn't work for the larger bonuses because the max bets on single numbers in roulette are often $10 or less.
 
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It is very suspcious to bust on 12/12 large bet bonuses. The chances of a loss in any one is about 50%, so the chances of 12 sequential losses are roughly 1 in 4,000. I am already suspicious of online casinos, and events like this make me even more suspicious. I am uncertain why I have had such different results. One explanation is playing different games.

As I mentioned earlier, Villento is now #1 on my largest loss list. I made a $530 gain on the sign up bonus, but I have busted on all subequent deposit bonuses. I will not play at this casino again.

I also lost at Cinema and have had poor results with this group as a whole, losing at 5 out of 7 casinos. A noteworthy exception is Sun Vegas where I gained +$510 on a $60 deposit.

I have not played at UK Casino Club due to a negative reputation of this group and difficulty withdrawing from Golden Reef.

I have had very different results with the Grand Prive group as listed below:
Juptiter Club: +$570
Bella Vegas: +$200
Casino Grand Bay: +$170
Lake Palace: No data, have not played here?

I have had drastically different results at King Neptune's. I've played there many times, and come out far ahead of expectations each time. I've won more at King Neptune's than any other casino.
 
I noticed that you said you have cleared a lot of your bonuses by playing french roulette. Have you noticed if your results from doing this were on par with your EV? When I clear a bonus using FR I bet 1 credit on a color and autoplay the however many thousand spins are required. For the most part my results with this game have been below EV, and I can't remember ever having a finish that was significantly above EV. I'm tempted to just bet $36 on red, $36 on black, and $1 on zero, even though I'd face a slightly higher house edge by clearning this way. But I don't think the casinos would like it very much, so I haven't actually attempted it yet.
 
My average gain on FR is above EV. However, there is a good amount of variation. Prior to making large bets at MG casinos, I used to regularly bet on both red & black on French Roulette ($1 red, $1 black, autoplay with quick spin). All casinos paid me my winnings. The Jackpot Factory casinos continue to send me promotions after winning by betting on both red & black. The Casino Rewards group has banned me from receiveing promotions, but I believe this has nothing to do with the low risk wagering. This group has a rule about receiving bonuses from multiple casinos and has done the same thing to other forum posters. I haven't tried betting on both red & black after a large bet win, as I don't want to give the casino an excuse not to pay.

Note that you are only expected to retain ~20% of the bonus using by playing FR at a casino with 50% wagering and 30x playthrough. You are expected to retain ~40% at casinos with 67% wagering.
 
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I have had very different results with the Grand Prive group as listed below:
Juptiter Club: +$570
Bella Vegas: +$200
Casino Grand Bay: +$170
Lake Palace: No data, have not played here?
It turns out I haven't played at Lake Palace. I played the bonus today and gained +$350. I came dangerously close to losing everything and was down to $165 after losing a $400 hand. This was my first max bet double loss at MG casinos. Fortunately, I won the next three hands, and cashed out a short time later. My bets were as follows. Note that the max bet is $200.

Begin at $500
Play through deposit once on VP -- total = $565
Bet $200 and lose -- total = $365
Bet $200 and win -- total = $565
Bet $200, double and lose! -- total = $165 (doubled 11 on a dealer 3)
Bet $165 and win -- total = $330
Bet $200 and get BJ -- total = $630
Bet $200 and win -- total = $830
Dozens of Small BJ and slot bets -- total = $850

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I also had an excellent session at Golden Spur and gained $125 on a no deposit bonus of $50. This is the largest gain I have ever had on a no deposit bonus. I started off by doubling the deposit playing BJ, then met the rest of the wagering on Pai Gow. I did not play BJ because wagering requirements are double for BJ and Pai Gow has a low standard deviation and fast play (using "house way" button).

I also had a disappointing loss at Club Dice, losing my full $300 deposit. It seemed that I could not win any bet over $100.

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A summary of September gains & losses is below, listed from high to low:

Lake Palace: +$350
Palace of Chance: +$250 (two no playthrough bonuses)
Intercasino: +$200
Casino Lux: +$200
Littlewoods: +$195
Golden Spur: +$125
Cherry Casino: +$120
William Hill: +$75
Casino Euro: +$50
Cinema Casino: +$50
Authorian Casino: +$35
Crazy Vegas: -$25
Club Dice: -$300

September net gains/losses: +$1325
Overall net gain/loss: +~$16,300

I hope to be over +$17,000 by the 8th of September.
 
I made up my large loss at Club Dice today! They sent me an email offer about being randomly selected in a raffle for an 80% bonus on my next deposit. I suspect all the persons who lose big get this offer. In any case, I decided to try again. I only got a 60% bonus, which all "VIP" players get. I contacted support, but they were slow to respond, so I played through the 60% bonus. The conditions differ for the second deposit bonus. BJ is not allowed on the first deposit. BJ is allowed on the second. The bonus is sticky, but the best terms I have ever seen on a sticky bonus at a Playtech casino -- only 4x(D+B) wagering. I played more conservatively than usual, never exceeding a bet of $60. I ncreased from $320 to $620 through risky bet increases on losses then cashed out. I stopped at a gain of +$300 to cancel out yesteday's loss of -$300. Trying to win back losses has been a problem for me. Fortunately it paid off this time.

I also did well at 32 Red and gained +$100 on the $50 matching bonus. This time ACBJG autoplay worked correctly. 32 Red never did compensate me for the autoplay mistakes last month, in spite of being promised compensation by a support rep.


September net gain/loss: +$1725
Overall net gain/loss: +~$16,700
 
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the best parts

"USA Casino
As After losing the first hand I dropped down to $555. Next I bet half, doubled and won, for a total of $1020.

I gained ~$1,330 at King Neptune's today. . First I bet 200 on Atlantic City BJ. I drew a 10, and the dealer had a 3.
I doubled and won.
I gained an additional 300 GBP on french roulette

I dropped down to just $112 at one point, then worked my way back up to $662

Note that all of the gains are well above the bonus size. The reason for this is streakyness.At Littlewoods I gained $195 on a $47.50 bonus by simply increasing bet size during winning streaks and betting the minimum at other times. I'm glad I didn't give up after I only won 1 of the first 18 hands. I gained 200% of the bonus at Intercasino, Casino Lux, and William Hill using a similar strategy.

noteworthy exception is Sun Vegas where I gained +$510 on a $60 deposit.
My average gain on FR is above EV
Lake Palace = Fortunately, I won the next three hands
Bet $200 and get BJ
Golden Spur = I started off by doubling the deposit playing BJ,
Club Dice = I ncreased from $320 to $620"

i REALLY like your strategy:notworthy

you should be "winbig":thumbsup:
 
I finally had a win at the Grand Prive group. I received a bonus offer for $75 on a $150 deposit. I decided to play ACBJ this time and bet $112 on my first hand and won. I think this was my first ever winning hand in seven deposits to this group. My first reaction was to cash out immediately, but I know that in the long run I'd be giving up significant EV by cashing out after only increasing my balance by 50%. So I bet another hand at $112 and... got a BJ! I was going to go and clear the bonus playing french roulette but after I made one spin and checked the cashier I noticed I only got 10% credit towards my wagering requirement. After checking the webpage there were no games that made clearing the bonus +EV, unless some slots happen to have payouts of over 96.66%, so I just cashed out with my $280 profit. Only -$1220 at this group now.
 
I finally had a win at the Grand Prive group. I received a bonus offer for $75 on a $150 deposit. I decided to play ACBJ this time and bet $112 on my first hand and won. I think this was my first ever winning hand in seven deposits to this group. My first reaction was to cash out immediately, but I know that in the long run I'd be giving up significant EV by cashing out after only increasing my balance by 50%. So I bet another hand at $112 and... got a BJ! I was going to go and clear the bonus playing french roulette but after I made one spin and checked the cashier I noticed I only got 10% credit towards my wagering requirement. After checking the webpage there were no games that made clearing the bonus +EV, unless some slots happen to have payouts of over 96.66%, so I just cashed out with my $280 profit. Only -$1220 at this group now.
It's great that you finally won. I hope the change in results continues for you. I also received 50% bonus offers from Jupiter and Bella. I only deposited $50, as it is not a great offer compared to others. I busted at Jupiter and gained $90 at Bella for a net of +$40 between the two. I made up for Jupiter's loss today. I gained +$210 on their 100% match up to $150.

My net gains between the four are now:
Jupiter Club: +$730
Lake Palace: +$350
Bella Vegas: +$290
Grand Bay: +$170
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Total: +$1540
 

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