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Fortyplus Casino
- Thread starter Casinomeister
- Start date
Don't expect any help from the Antigua Gaming Commission,they will acknowledge that they received your complaint like the one I filed against Intertops on Nov. 6th and you will not hear anything else.Americans are better off if they gamble where they may have some legal rights and not with establishments outside U.S. There is a reason they move out of the jurisdiction of the U.S.I had a legimate complaint and contacted lawyers and goverment agencies with no response at all.Gambling brings in too much money to Belize and the goverment turns a deaf ear to complaints.I sent email to at least a dozen lawyers in Belize without one response.I guess as long as we Americans send money over there they will take it and I really mean take it.If you never have a complaint against your casino investigated by the governing agency why should your games be fair?Please take my advice gamble where you may get some help if you think that the game you are playing is unfair.Gamble at your own risk when you play at Casinos located in Belize or under the Goverment of Antigua,there will be no help in the case of a dispute.
jrouse, what you say may be true, but if gamblers elect not to take steps to call the attention of the licensing authorities to bad casino or software provider behaviour how are they going to know about it?
Belize is pretty low profile, but Antigua is the opposite with Ron Maginley and others involved in the jurisdictional side making statements at international conferences and in the media that they will genuinely take up complaints. And they are currently embroiled in a WTO fight with the USA which may make them more player sensitive.
I think it is always worth giving it a go as a tactic used together with other measures - and it is more likely to attract attention if enough complaints come in about a particular outfit.
Belize is pretty low profile, but Antigua is the opposite with Ron Maginley and others involved in the jurisdictional side making statements at international conferences and in the media that they will genuinely take up complaints. And they are currently embroiled in a WTO fight with the USA which may make them more player sensitive.
I think it is always worth giving it a go as a tactic used together with other measures - and it is more likely to attract attention if enough complaints come in about a particular outfit.
- Joined
- Jun 30, 1998
- Location
- Bierland
This just in from Oddson:
To all players of FortyPlus Casino,
We at Odds On are distressed with what has occurred with FortyPlus Casino. We are also owed money by this casino and can sympathize with the players who are owed monies. Therefore, we have engaged in an intensive search for the player database and are making best efforts to contact the owners of FortyPlus in the hopes of reaching a resolution to this situation.
At this time, we would ask all players with an existing balance at FortyPlus to send an email with their complete player account details (name, address, email, ID and telephone number), method of payment and their last balance to service@oddson.com. We ask that you provide the same information as the information that would be on record on the FortyPlus database.
If we are able to acquire FortyPlus player database records to confirm the player information we receive, and we are able to contact the owners of FortyPlus, we hope to use this information to compel FortyPlus to remit monies owed to their players. This may take some time and we ask for your patience.
As we are not in control of the FortyPlus website, we are unable to post this information on that website.
OddsOn
To all players of FortyPlus Casino,
We at Odds On are distressed with what has occurred with FortyPlus Casino. We are also owed money by this casino and can sympathize with the players who are owed monies. Therefore, we have engaged in an intensive search for the player database and are making best efforts to contact the owners of FortyPlus in the hopes of reaching a resolution to this situation.
At this time, we would ask all players with an existing balance at FortyPlus to send an email with their complete player account details (name, address, email, ID and telephone number), method of payment and their last balance to service@oddson.com. We ask that you provide the same information as the information that would be on record on the FortyPlus database.
If we are able to acquire FortyPlus player database records to confirm the player information we receive, and we are able to contact the owners of FortyPlus, we hope to use this information to compel FortyPlus to remit monies owed to their players. This may take some time and we ask for your patience.
As we are not in control of the FortyPlus website, we are unable to post this information on that website.
OddsOn
- Joined
- Jun 30, 1998
- Location
- Bierland
For those players who have contacted me, I will forward your player information to service@oddson.com requesting that they contact you for confirmation.
Just on a month after the Forty Plus failure and after a determined silence until the media started getting interested and a third party indicated a possible embarrassing lifeline, Odds On now issue a public statement - their first *official* comment.
Unfortunately, it still does not meet their obligations to players and does not take us very much further forward. And I for one have trouble believing this bs "we know nothing" stuff - no provider can be that negligent.
BTW, Bryan poster Dominique is claiming on another site that she is going to merge her complaints with yours and that the figure owed by Forty Plus may be considerably higher.
Any chance of posting what the revised figure is once you have that worked out? There are several interested parties here who would appreciate that information as they continue to monitor this extraordinary affair.
Unfortunately, it still does not meet their obligations to players and does not take us very much further forward. And I for one have trouble believing this bs "we know nothing" stuff - no provider can be that negligent.
BTW, Bryan poster Dominique is claiming on another site that she is going to merge her complaints with yours and that the figure owed by Forty Plus may be considerably higher.
Any chance of posting what the revised figure is once you have that worked out? There are several interested parties here who would appreciate that information as they continue to monitor this extraordinary affair.
Jorge Barahona Speaks Out on Casino Forty Plus Matter
To all players,
First I would like to mention that I am glad to be
able to communicate with all of you thru this site. I
have not been able to contact any of you, because I
could not kept any personal information of any of our
players, only their account numbers and the amount of
money owed. I am willing to cooperate in everything
that I can in order to clear this matter as soon as
possible.
I also believe that the least I can do is provide you
all with an explanation of how and why Forty Plus is
not available anymore. I was hired to start this new
casino operation, based on my previous experience,
unfortunately the investor of the operation decided to
close it, according to him, simply because the
software does not work the way it was supposed to. The
entire casino staff was fired at the end of October,
including myself and the local office was closed at
the end of November; all the assets were sold in order
to pay the local responsibilities, such as taxes,
employees salaries and any other corresponding
amounts. At the moment of its closure, I was not able
to contact any of you and inform you in how to
proceed.
However, since I have been in this industry for a
while, I feel that I have a personal and professional
commitment to all the players that came into the
casino and deposited their hard earned money trusting
me and my staff, I would like to inform you all that
what I can do is try and return the original amount
deposited to all the players that money is owed to in
the next 180 days. This is because I have to follow
procedures that are established by the payment
methods. I cannot promise to pay any winnings because
I do not have the financial capability to do so,
simply because as many of you, I am only an employee
that depends on a monthly salary.
This situation, even though is not my fault, has
affected me, that is why, I will do whatever is on my
reach to solve it ASAP. I will also like to add, that
I, Jorge Barahona, do not owe any monies to Odds On,
as it was mentioned in one of the articles here. The
people of Odds On know that all the above statement is
true.
Once again, I would like to apologize for all this
inconvenience and I will commit to solve this matter
as soon as possible. You can reach me at the posted
e-mail address with your account number and your name
and any other queries you might have. Also, please
send your information at the email address that Odds
On posted (service@oddson.com) so I can coordinate
with them in how to proceed.
Sincerely,
Jorge Barahona/
InfoPowa is still awaiting a full reply to the following additional questions posed to Senor Barahona:
Thank you for your response.
Perhaps I might ask a few more questions?
1) Are you prepared to identify the investor who pulled the plug on Forty
Plus? Is he in Costa Rica or Canada? Would he be Marty Jensen?
2) Can you say why the players were not told the casino was closing and how
their accounts would be settled? Surely an email from management using the
casino's email facilities could have been organised - our information from
reliable sources is that players were just left stranded.
3) Odds On claim they do not have any information on the casino's operations
or its player database. Do you know where that database of Forty Plus
players is? Does Odds On have it? Where is Forty Plus's server/s and the
information on them?
4) Did you or the investor discuss the imminent closure of Forty Plus with
Pierre Gagnon or anyone else at Odds On? If so, what did they say?
5) Can you say how much was owed to players at the time of the closure?
6) Can you elaborate on what measures you are taking to have the unpaid
Forty Plus players paid? Who else is involved in this exercise? Is Odds On
involved? Has Odds On been in contact with you since the closure of Forty
Plus? Is money still owed to Odds On (for royalties etc)
7) Can you confirm that Forty Plus was not using the usual Odds On e-cash
processor?
8) Is there, as far as you know any ownership connection at all between
Forty Plus, Odds On or the English Harbour group of online casinos?
9) Did you use the alias of George Finley whilst you were a manager at Main
Street Vegas and Forty Plus?
10) What are your personal plans for the future?
Thanks
Brian Cullingworth
InfoPowa News
To all players,
First I would like to mention that I am glad to be
able to communicate with all of you thru this site. I
have not been able to contact any of you, because I
could not kept any personal information of any of our
players, only their account numbers and the amount of
money owed. I am willing to cooperate in everything
that I can in order to clear this matter as soon as
possible.
I also believe that the least I can do is provide you
all with an explanation of how and why Forty Plus is
not available anymore. I was hired to start this new
casino operation, based on my previous experience,
unfortunately the investor of the operation decided to
close it, according to him, simply because the
software does not work the way it was supposed to. The
entire casino staff was fired at the end of October,
including myself and the local office was closed at
the end of November; all the assets were sold in order
to pay the local responsibilities, such as taxes,
employees salaries and any other corresponding
amounts. At the moment of its closure, I was not able
to contact any of you and inform you in how to
proceed.
However, since I have been in this industry for a
while, I feel that I have a personal and professional
commitment to all the players that came into the
casino and deposited their hard earned money trusting
me and my staff, I would like to inform you all that
what I can do is try and return the original amount
deposited to all the players that money is owed to in
the next 180 days. This is because I have to follow
procedures that are established by the payment
methods. I cannot promise to pay any winnings because
I do not have the financial capability to do so,
simply because as many of you, I am only an employee
that depends on a monthly salary.
This situation, even though is not my fault, has
affected me, that is why, I will do whatever is on my
reach to solve it ASAP. I will also like to add, that
I, Jorge Barahona, do not owe any monies to Odds On,
as it was mentioned in one of the articles here. The
people of Odds On know that all the above statement is
true.
Once again, I would like to apologize for all this
inconvenience and I will commit to solve this matter
as soon as possible. You can reach me at the posted
e-mail address with your account number and your name
and any other queries you might have. Also, please
send your information at the email address that Odds
On posted (service@oddson.com) so I can coordinate
with them in how to proceed.
Sincerely,
Jorge Barahona/
InfoPowa is still awaiting a full reply to the following additional questions posed to Senor Barahona:
Thank you for your response.
Perhaps I might ask a few more questions?
1) Are you prepared to identify the investor who pulled the plug on Forty
Plus? Is he in Costa Rica or Canada? Would he be Marty Jensen?
2) Can you say why the players were not told the casino was closing and how
their accounts would be settled? Surely an email from management using the
casino's email facilities could have been organised - our information from
reliable sources is that players were just left stranded.
3) Odds On claim they do not have any information on the casino's operations
or its player database. Do you know where that database of Forty Plus
players is? Does Odds On have it? Where is Forty Plus's server/s and the
information on them?
4) Did you or the investor discuss the imminent closure of Forty Plus with
Pierre Gagnon or anyone else at Odds On? If so, what did they say?
5) Can you say how much was owed to players at the time of the closure?
6) Can you elaborate on what measures you are taking to have the unpaid
Forty Plus players paid? Who else is involved in this exercise? Is Odds On
involved? Has Odds On been in contact with you since the closure of Forty
Plus? Is money still owed to Odds On (for royalties etc)
7) Can you confirm that Forty Plus was not using the usual Odds On e-cash
processor?
8) Is there, as far as you know any ownership connection at all between
Forty Plus, Odds On or the English Harbour group of online casinos?
9) Did you use the alias of George Finley whilst you were a manager at Main
Street Vegas and Forty Plus?
10) What are your personal plans for the future?
Thanks
Brian Cullingworth
InfoPowa News
Let's looks at Barahona's assurance to players I have posted above, which has a few holes in it imo:
1) Forty Plus is hoping to get away with just returning player deposits in respect of complaints forwarded to Odds On's service email.
2) Barahona clearly has control and access to the e-processor deposits from which (once they are released) there would be more than enough to pay the 11 or 12 complaining players the estimated $15-$20K they are owed and not merely return deposits.
3) Barahona has the Forty Plus player names, account numbers and amounts owing, so ignorance of this by Odds On or anyone else is no longer an excuse.
4) Gagnon says that Odds On "were also victims" and they were trying to find the absconded Forty Plus owners. Barahona says he owes nothing to Odds On - and Gagnon now clearly knows where Barahona is and who he is because they have obviously been in contact.
5) The mysterious Marty Jensen is also apparently involved, because he has been considering taking on the Forty Plus players (deposits only) and admitted to Casinomeister that he had their details. How would he have that information? And Jorge Barahona alias George Finley once worked for Marty at Main Street Vegas.
6) Barahona is working with Odds On (note his recommendation that players use the Odds On service email address) So why are Odds On not communicating with the stiffed players?
7) No-one is coming clean on the identity and location of this mysterious "investor" who is getting the blame for closing Forty Plus down because he wasn't happy with Odds On's software. Could it be because it was Marty Jensen?
8) Barahona has still not satisfactorily explained why Forty Plus was closed (from a player perspective) in such an uncommunicative and unprofessional manner.
There remains a strong smell of bad conduct around here, folks - it needs to be dispelled with the clean air of further information and investigation.
1) Forty Plus is hoping to get away with just returning player deposits in respect of complaints forwarded to Odds On's service email.
2) Barahona clearly has control and access to the e-processor deposits from which (once they are released) there would be more than enough to pay the 11 or 12 complaining players the estimated $15-$20K they are owed and not merely return deposits.
3) Barahona has the Forty Plus player names, account numbers and amounts owing, so ignorance of this by Odds On or anyone else is no longer an excuse.
4) Gagnon says that Odds On "were also victims" and they were trying to find the absconded Forty Plus owners. Barahona says he owes nothing to Odds On - and Gagnon now clearly knows where Barahona is and who he is because they have obviously been in contact.
5) The mysterious Marty Jensen is also apparently involved, because he has been considering taking on the Forty Plus players (deposits only) and admitted to Casinomeister that he had their details. How would he have that information? And Jorge Barahona alias George Finley once worked for Marty at Main Street Vegas.
6) Barahona is working with Odds On (note his recommendation that players use the Odds On service email address) So why are Odds On not communicating with the stiffed players?
7) No-one is coming clean on the identity and location of this mysterious "investor" who is getting the blame for closing Forty Plus down because he wasn't happy with Odds On's software. Could it be because it was Marty Jensen?
8) Barahona has still not satisfactorily explained why Forty Plus was closed (from a player perspective) in such an uncommunicative and unprofessional manner.
There remains a strong smell of bad conduct around here, folks - it needs to be dispelled with the clean air of further information and investigation.
- Joined
- Jun 30, 1998
- Location
- Bierland
It's funny (NOT) how I forwarded the player compliants to service@oddson.com on Wednesday, and they have yet to give me the courtesy of a response, even after I asked them to contact the players directly upon receipt of my email. As far as I know, they haven't been contacted either.
Sheesh!
Sheesh!
A poster at WOL has pointed out that contrary to Barahona's story about the Forty Plus staff firings posted earlier in this thread, he received emails with bs e-processor excuses for late payouts as far back as November - another indicator that we are not getting the whole truth on several levels in this affair.
I have had further comms with Snr. Barahona although he has not answered the list of questions I posted earlier yet.
He clearly retains some respect for Marty Jensen, and assures me that Jensen was in no way involved in Forty Plus. That still does not explain his alleged access to player information and apparent willingness to come out of left field to *help* the stiffed players in my opinion.
Barahona has promised more answers shortly, and again says that he wants to try and resolve these player issues as a personal priority. He is currently unemployed and looking for a new position in the industry.
I have had further comms with Snr. Barahona although he has not answered the list of questions I posted earlier yet.
He clearly retains some respect for Marty Jensen, and assures me that Jensen was in no way involved in Forty Plus. That still does not explain his alleged access to player information and apparent willingness to come out of left field to *help* the stiffed players in my opinion.
Barahona has promised more answers shortly, and again says that he wants to try and resolve these player issues as a personal priority. He is currently unemployed and looking for a new position in the industry.
Would Marty Jensen be Mike Jenson??
I searched the Odds On phone number :416 535 8282
and got this:
ICE 2002 - Virtual Exchange Online Inc
--------------------------------------------
Stand: 5569 (18m2)
Address: Millburn House
11 Old Parham Rd
St John's
Antigua
Contact: Mr Mike Jensen
001 416 535 8282
001 416 588 8568
solutions@virtualexchange.com
The email above (solutions@virtualexchange.com) came up with this information:
Registrant:
The ECX Company Inc. (ECXCOMPANY-DOM)
67 Mowat Ave. Suite 547
Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3
CA
Domain Name: ECXCOMPANY.COM
Administrative Contact:
Billing, Billing (MDSXDDRYTI) billing@hostbyremote.com
67 Mowat Ave. Suite 547
Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3
CA
416-5358282 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
Administrator, Administrator (UGSQBKJJTI) tech@hostbyremote.com
ECX Company
67 Mowat Ave. suite 547
Toronto, ON M2R 2S7
CA
416-535-8282 fax: 123 123 1234
now take the email above, tech@hostbyremote.com ,
you get this::
Registrant:
Virtual One Inc. (KXWODPGESD)
Old Sealy Building
P.O.Box 3638
Airport Road
St. John's, AG 00000
AG
Domain Name: HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Administrative Contact:
Hostbyremote.com (SEFBKMKVNO) hostmaster@HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Old Sealy Building
PO Box 3638, Airport Road
St. John's, na na
AG
268 481 1487 fax: 268 481 1487
Technical Contact:
Technical (TE2984-ORG) tech@HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Old Sealy Building
PO Box 3638
St. John's, na na
AG
268 481 1487 fax: 268 481 1487
Record expires on 09-Jun-2006.
Record created on 09-Jun-2000.
Database last updated on 20-Dec-2003 23:39:56
So, Odds On number finds Mike (marty) Jensen at Odds On, also finds Virtual Exchange in Antiqua and Canada.
And the email to ECX in Canada finds it way back to Antiqua to a Virtual One Inc... ??????
I searched the Odds On phone number :416 535 8282
and got this:
ICE 2002 - Virtual Exchange Online Inc
--------------------------------------------
Stand: 5569 (18m2)
Address: Millburn House
11 Old Parham Rd
St John's
Antigua
Contact: Mr Mike Jensen
001 416 535 8282
001 416 588 8568
solutions@virtualexchange.com
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The email above (solutions@virtualexchange.com) came up with this information:
Registrant:
The ECX Company Inc. (ECXCOMPANY-DOM)
67 Mowat Ave. Suite 547
Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3
CA
Domain Name: ECXCOMPANY.COM
Administrative Contact:
Billing, Billing (MDSXDDRYTI) billing@hostbyremote.com
67 Mowat Ave. Suite 547
Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3
CA
416-5358282 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
Administrator, Administrator (UGSQBKJJTI) tech@hostbyremote.com
ECX Company
67 Mowat Ave. suite 547
Toronto, ON M2R 2S7
CA
416-535-8282 fax: 123 123 1234
now take the email above, tech@hostbyremote.com ,
you get this::
Registrant:
Virtual One Inc. (KXWODPGESD)
Old Sealy Building
P.O.Box 3638
Airport Road
St. John's, AG 00000
AG
Domain Name: HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Administrative Contact:
Hostbyremote.com (SEFBKMKVNO) hostmaster@HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Old Sealy Building
PO Box 3638, Airport Road
St. John's, na na
AG
268 481 1487 fax: 268 481 1487
Technical Contact:
Technical (TE2984-ORG) tech@HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Old Sealy Building
PO Box 3638
St. John's, na na
AG
268 481 1487 fax: 268 481 1487
Record expires on 09-Jun-2006.
Record created on 09-Jun-2000.
Database last updated on 20-Dec-2003 23:39:56
So, Odds On number finds Mike (marty) Jensen at Odds On, also finds Virtual Exchange in Antiqua and Canada.
And the email to ECX in Canada finds it way back to Antiqua to a Virtual One Inc... ??????
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Domain name: virtualexchange.com
Registrant Contact:
Virtual Exchange Online Inc.
Richard Hall (rhall@virtualexchange.com)
268 481 1415
Fax: 268 481 1413
Airport Road, P.O. Box W1143
St. John's, NA
AG
Administrative Contact:
Virtual Exchange Online Inc.
Richard Hall (rhall@virtualexchange.com)
268 481 1415
Fax: 268 481 1413
Airport Road, P.O. Box W1143
St. John's, NA
AG
Technical Contact:
Virtual Exchange Online Inc.
Richard Hall (rhall@virtualexchange.com)
268 481 1415
Fax: 268 481 1413
Airport Road, P.O. Box W1143
St. John's, NA
AG
Billing Contact:
Virtual Exchange Online Inc.
Richard Hall (rhall@virtualexchange.com)
268 481 1415
Fax: 268 481 1413
Airport Road, P.O. Box W1143
St. John's, NA
AG
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Virtual Exchange Online Inc.
Richard Hall (rhall@virtualexchange.com)
268 481 1415
Fax: 268 481 1413
Airport Road, P.O. Box W1143
St. John's, NA
AG
Administrative Contact:
Virtual Exchange Online Inc.
Richard Hall (rhall@virtualexchange.com)
268 481 1415
Fax: 268 481 1413
Airport Road, P.O. Box W1143
St. John's, NA
AG
Technical Contact:
Virtual Exchange Online Inc.
Richard Hall (rhall@virtualexchange.com)
268 481 1415
Fax: 268 481 1413
Airport Road, P.O. Box W1143
St. John's, NA
AG
Billing Contact:
Virtual Exchange Online Inc.
Richard Hall (rhall@virtualexchange.com)
268 481 1415
Fax: 268 481 1413
Airport Road, P.O. Box W1143
St. John's, NA
AG
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I think I got all my information mixed up.. I was searching for Mike Jensen when I got the information above, NOT with the number at Odds On... Sorry!!
Not searching/posting nor sending any more information til I get all my files in order and numbered to correspond with each other. Don't want this happening again....
Not searching/posting nor sending any more information til I get all my files in order and numbered to correspond with each other. Don't want this happening again....
Ah, found my info.. I searched for Odds On Inc., came up with tihs:
ICE 2002 - Virtual Exchange Online Inc
-------------------------------
Stand: 5569 (18m2)
Address: Millburn House
11 Old Parham Rd
St John's
Antigua
Contact: Mr Mike Jensen
001 416 535 8282
001 416 588 8568
solutions@virtualexchange.com
Products and/or Services
Key: Manufacturer Distributor Operator Parts/Accessories
Internet/On-line Gaming
Rest of information posted above is correct with this as an addition::
Headquarters:
67 Mowat Avenue
Suite 547
Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3
Canada
Phone: (416) 535-8282
Fax: (416) 588-8568
Website: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
E-mail: solutions@ecxcompany.com
Upper Management: Mr. Michael Jensen, Senior Manager of Business Development
mjensen@ecxcompany.com
Additional Information:
Parent Company: Virtual Exchange
ICE 2002 - Virtual Exchange Online Inc
-------------------------------
Stand: 5569 (18m2)
Address: Millburn House
11 Old Parham Rd
St John's
Antigua
Contact: Mr Mike Jensen
001 416 535 8282
001 416 588 8568
solutions@virtualexchange.com
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Products and/or Services
Key: Manufacturer Distributor Operator Parts/Accessories
Internet/On-line Gaming
Rest of information posted above is correct with this as an addition::
Headquarters:
67 Mowat Avenue
Suite 547
Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3
Canada
Phone: (416) 535-8282
Fax: (416) 588-8568
Website: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
E-mail: solutions@ecxcompany.com
Upper Management: Mr. Michael Jensen, Senior Manager of Business Development
mjensen@ecxcompany.com
Additional Information:
Parent Company: Virtual Exchange
I suspect a stall. After some days delay Barahona has still not answered our questions, and today has the following to say regarding the unpaid players:
"On my behalf, I am trying to coordinate with Neteller
the payment of the customers, as I explained you, this
process might take up to 180 days because of their own
procedures, however, I might get an oficial statement
from them in which they asure the public that no
monies were withdrawal from the Neteller account, only
to pay the customers and also the procedure to follow
in this case, that way this matter will be clearer, as
soon as I get it, you will be the first person to
receive it.
Now, regarding the identity of the investor, I will be
providing you with all details as soon as I get some
aspects clear. I want to gather all the correct
information, so there will be no misunderstandings."
I'm not sure what he is referring to in the Neteller comment above, and I have pressed him for more detail. It sounds like some sort of security deposit deal but that is surely not how Neteller works, even from a merchant viewpoint? And unless he is the owner of Forty Plus I doubt that they will allow him to take money away.
His reticence in identifying the mystery investor whom he alleges is the real owner continues to make me suspicious.
Independent investigations outside Barahona continue. These will be particularly interesting once we have access to government material in the new year.
"On my behalf, I am trying to coordinate with Neteller
the payment of the customers, as I explained you, this
process might take up to 180 days because of their own
procedures, however, I might get an oficial statement
from them in which they asure the public that no
monies were withdrawal from the Neteller account, only
to pay the customers and also the procedure to follow
in this case, that way this matter will be clearer, as
soon as I get it, you will be the first person to
receive it.
Now, regarding the identity of the investor, I will be
providing you with all details as soon as I get some
aspects clear. I want to gather all the correct
information, so there will be no misunderstandings."
I'm not sure what he is referring to in the Neteller comment above, and I have pressed him for more detail. It sounds like some sort of security deposit deal but that is surely not how Neteller works, even from a merchant viewpoint? And unless he is the owner of Forty Plus I doubt that they will allow him to take money away.
His reticence in identifying the mystery investor whom he alleges is the real owner continues to make me suspicious.
Independent investigations outside Barahona continue. These will be particularly interesting once we have access to government material in the new year.
NOT SO FESTIVE FORTY PLUS
The digging continues whilst Odds On and former manager hold back
Where the stiffed Forty Plus Casino players are concerned, there wasn't a whole lot of seasonal goodwill from either Odds On software or former manager Jorge Barahona, who this week continued to hold out on information that might help players obtain satisfaction.
Odds On powered Forty Plus failed suddenly some six weeks back, leaving unpaid players in its wake as the management dived for cover after stalling players with stories of e-processor hassles being responsible for delayed payouts. It later transpired that they were obeying orders to fire and compensate staff and sell off assets at the same time.
Odds On President Pierre Gagnon has been disastrously uncommunicative in the affair, but finally shrugged off any responsibility to the players and claimed not to know what had been going on at the casino, or reveal who the owners are.
As we went to press last week a new name surfaced in Costa Rica - Jorge Barahona alias George Finley and InfoPowa has had several contacts with this individual since then.
Originally reported to have been the owner of Forty Plus, Barahona refutes that allegation and claims that although he had been the manager of the failed operation he was not the owner. Barahona had previously worked for the elusive Marty Jensen at Main Street Vegas Group where he was known as George Finley.
Barahona has not yet elaborated on the highly unprofessional shutdown other than to say he was following orders, but he claims to be negotiating with Neteller in an attempt to get players paid. He too has so far declined to identify the mysterious *investor* whom he alleges called all the shots at Forty Plus and fired him and fellow manager Alan Roberts when the operation failed.
Why everyone involved refuses to expose this individual who is alleged to be responsible for the Forty Plus debacle is mystifying...and not a little irresponsible.
Elsewhere, in the absence of any cooperation from Gagnon, journalists and others continue to investigate the connections between Odds On, Forty Plus, English Harbour group, IP Marketing and IP Devco and Beanfield Technologies. And the matter has been reported to Ron Maginley who heads up the Antigua Gaming authority where Odds On has offices. Maginley is studying the complaint before making an official statement.
The festive season has temporarily disrupted some lines of enquiry involving government departments that are on vacation, but these will be resumed early in the New Year.
The digging continues whilst Odds On and former manager hold back
Where the stiffed Forty Plus Casino players are concerned, there wasn't a whole lot of seasonal goodwill from either Odds On software or former manager Jorge Barahona, who this week continued to hold out on information that might help players obtain satisfaction.
Odds On powered Forty Plus failed suddenly some six weeks back, leaving unpaid players in its wake as the management dived for cover after stalling players with stories of e-processor hassles being responsible for delayed payouts. It later transpired that they were obeying orders to fire and compensate staff and sell off assets at the same time.
Odds On President Pierre Gagnon has been disastrously uncommunicative in the affair, but finally shrugged off any responsibility to the players and claimed not to know what had been going on at the casino, or reveal who the owners are.
As we went to press last week a new name surfaced in Costa Rica - Jorge Barahona alias George Finley and InfoPowa has had several contacts with this individual since then.
Originally reported to have been the owner of Forty Plus, Barahona refutes that allegation and claims that although he had been the manager of the failed operation he was not the owner. Barahona had previously worked for the elusive Marty Jensen at Main Street Vegas Group where he was known as George Finley.
Barahona has not yet elaborated on the highly unprofessional shutdown other than to say he was following orders, but he claims to be negotiating with Neteller in an attempt to get players paid. He too has so far declined to identify the mysterious *investor* whom he alleges called all the shots at Forty Plus and fired him and fellow manager Alan Roberts when the operation failed.
Why everyone involved refuses to expose this individual who is alleged to be responsible for the Forty Plus debacle is mystifying...and not a little irresponsible.
Elsewhere, in the absence of any cooperation from Gagnon, journalists and others continue to investigate the connections between Odds On, Forty Plus, English Harbour group, IP Marketing and IP Devco and Beanfield Technologies. And the matter has been reported to Ron Maginley who heads up the Antigua Gaming authority where Odds On has offices. Maginley is studying the complaint before making an official statement.
The festive season has temporarily disrupted some lines of enquiry involving government departments that are on vacation, but these will be resumed early in the New Year.
jetset said:
As we all know there is a Mike Jensen with the ECX company whose e-mail is: mjensen@ecxcompany.com. If you search that email, this is the information::
Domain:
Registrant:
The ECX Company Inc. (ECXCOMPANY-DOM)
67 Mowat Ave. Suite 547 ((which is also Oddson address))
Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3
CA
Domain Name: ECXCOMPANY.COM
Administrative Contact:
Billing, Billing (MDSXDDRYTI) billing@hostbyremote.com
67 Mowat Ave. Suite 547
Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3
CA
416-5358282 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
Administrator, Administrator (UGSQBKJJTI) tech@hostbyremote.com
ECX Company
67 Mowat Ave. suite 547
Toronto, ON M2R 2S7
CA
416-535-8282 fax: 123 123 1234
Record expires on 03-Apr-2009.
Record created on 03-Apr-2001.
Database last updated on 3-Jan-2004 23:28:56 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.ECXCOMPANY.COM 66.207.204.3
DNS2.ECXCOMPANY.COM 66.207.204.4
[Whois Server]:whois.networksolutions.com
.............................................................................
searched e-mail above:: billing@hostbyremote.com
Domain:
Registrant:
Virtual One Inc. (KXWODPGESD)
Old Sealy Building
P.O.Box 3638
Airport Road
St. John's, AG 00000
AG
Domain Name: HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Administrative Contact:
Hostbyremote.com (SEFBKMKVNO) hostmaster@HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Old Sealy Building
PO Box 3638, Airport Road
St. John's, na na
AG
268 481 1487 fax: 268 481 1487
Technical Contact:
Technical (TE2984-ORG) tech@HOSTBYREMOTE.COM
Old Sealy Building
PO Box 3638
St. John's, na na
AG
268 481 1487 fax: 268 481 1487
Record expires on 09-Jun-2006.
Record created on 09-Jun-2000.
Database last updated on 4-Jan-2004 00:01:35 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.CUR.HOSTBYREMOTE.COM 63.245.48.68
DNS2.CUR.HOSTBYREMOTE.COM 63.245.48.69
DNS3.HOSTBYREMOTE.COM 66.207.204.3
DNS4.HOSTBYREMOTE.COM 66.207.204.4
IP Location:
Beanfield Technologies Inc. BEANFIELD (NET-66-207-192-0-1)
66.207.192.0 - 66.207.223.255
IP Marketing Inc NETBLK-IPMKTG001 (NET-66-207-204-0-1)
66.207.204.0 - 66.207.204.63
- Joined
- Jun 30, 1998
- Location
- Bierland
Just a status report on my part:
On 17 December, I forwarded the 40+ player complaints/claims that I had to service@oddson.com (11 players, 1 affiliate). Oddson acknowledged the copy, and that was about it. I also requested that they would contact these players letting them know that Oddson had received their information.
Since then, only one player has been contacted with this informative and well worded email:
Hi,
Thanks for your email. We will contact you when we have further
information on this matter.
Sincerely,
Odds On
On 17 December, I forwarded the 40+ player complaints/claims that I had to service@oddson.com (11 players, 1 affiliate). Oddson acknowledged the copy, and that was about it. I also requested that they would contact these players letting them know that Oddson had received their information.
Since then, only one player has been contacted with this informative and well worded email:
Hi,
Thanks for your email. We will contact you when we have further
information on this matter.
Sincerely,
Odds On
- Joined
- Jun 30, 1998
- Location
- Bierland
I've just been assured telephonically that all legitimate claims will be taken care of by the end of this week. All players who were affected by the 40+ closure need to email service@oddson.com immediately if they haven't done so already.
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