I should think so too. Still 15 years to late IMO because the damage they have done to two of my friends is irreparable. A couple of other friends whose self exclusions have expired have both received personal phone calls from the local betting shop manager telling them they are free to walk back in and there is a new promotion they may be interested in concerning slot play ( both used to be (£100 a spin roulette merchants) I find that totally shocking as they have kicked the habit and now prefer to come with me to the land based casino and have a real chance of winning. I sincerely hope nobody ever plays another FOBT ever, they are the scum of the gambling world and I would truly love to see them wiped off the face of the planet.You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
The government (after pressure by some its own MP's) has abandoned the delayed reduction to £2 max bets which was due to arrive October 2019 and it's now starting in April. Good.
I'd be up for just some straightforward swinging.Amazing what these politicians would love to get away with given half a chance, were they not pressured into not doing so.
And of course it's not a reflective moral awakening, it's in view to being seen to do the popular thing, for upcoming vote-swinging
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Yes the most you could have straight up on a number was £13.80 and you could make it up to £500 max with a bit on the street of corner. The thing is despite what anybody says or tells you it certainly doesn’t pay out 97.3% and is definitely not random. It is one of the biggest scams ever. People have literally been ROBBED blind by these atrocities and it’s been allowed to happen. The only excuse that can be made for the people who have allowed this is they don’t know any better and have no knowledge and are totally oblivious to reality when it comes to FairPlay. They have voted with their pockets. Another thing is where or who are the governing bodies responsible for checking these things out? That they run at the percentages stated because if roulette doesn’t run at 97.3% and it doesn’t then it’s obviously rigged yet nobody has ever been brought to task over it. Which tells me there are either no governing bodies doing these checks, the programmers are a step ahead of them or they like brown envelopes with £50’s inside.was the roulette limited to a £500 jackpot as well on these fobts? Its mad to think politicians/regulators ever thought it was a good idea people in poor areas could do £100 bets every 20 seconds on computerised roulette [what is the name for this type of game, video/electronic roulette
I think bearing in mind christmas is coming up the stake reduction should come in now to prevent more misery for unsuspecting families, the bookies have got loads of money and also made colossal amounts [hundreds of millions, possibly billions] from these games during the last 12+ years they've had them running.
I suspect the GOVT knew all along they'd be an uproar that the £2 stake limit wasn't being introduced ASAP, and on purpose set the date to Oct 2019 to give them wriggle room to negotiate back to April 2019 and make it look like they've listened and compromised, but in reality they've just given the bookies another 6 months they shouldn't have to fill their boots.
Yes have to agree with everything stated in this post. I spent a lot of time studying the behaviour of FOBTS and low rolling the roulette on mammoth sessions to see how these things played out. In my time doing so I got to know a lot of big hitters (£100) a spin merchants. I would watch their play also. I was left in no doubt whatsoever these things are hideously rigged. I have seen it all. You would have to be away with the fairies to not realise what’s going on. There is not a chance the roulette pays out anywhere near 97.3%. I remember meeting a guy who would come in every Friday evening with about £2,000 and play red or black £100 a spin. No matter what he did the machine beat him every time. If he stuck with red the machine would throw out 15 consecutive blacks and so on. It was just blatantly rigged. Yes you can get these freak occurrences live but they happen once in a blue moon not every day and not every time you are doing the complete opposite. I could give you a list of events I have witnessed that are truly beyond belief. In contrast I have played live roulette at the casino regularly for years and I haven’t got a single story to tell that would amaze you. Imo these things play like they are super compensated as in once they have xpounds in the sack they pay out x% like nothing you have ever seen then they will take constantly until they have enough banked to repeat the process. The only thing we will never know is the true percentage these things paid out but if you did I guarantee you would be astounded.
This is so very true. The only reason bookies started opening late at night was because of FOBTS. Some shops would have probably struggled to take £100 on sports bets but could take around £10,000 on FOBTS. They totally reshaped the gambling industry in the UK. The roulette as you say being the catalyst. I don’t go into betting shops that often nowadays as apart from catching up with old friends there is no attraction for me. I occasionally bet on football but I can do that online. However when I do visit the FOBTS are nowhere near as busy as they were 10 years ago. This is mainly due to the fact that all the big hitters have lost so much money they have either run out or self excluded. I don’t think slot players alone will be enough to keep all shops open. One of my friends to whom money is no object openly admitted to losing £100,000 in a single year on the roulette. Another who doesn’t even play roulette would regularly lose £1,000 a day just on slots. It was sickening to watch and I particularly remember one day when he played gladiator at £2 a spin. £964 in he got his first feature and was hoping just to get a reasonable amount of his money back. It paid £26. This story is not unique by any means.
I play at a land based casino all the time (poker and live roulette) and I play online a lot also (only slots). I know from all the experience I have had and this is tried and tested over a long period of time that your chances of winning online are much higher than on FOBTS. In fact the two are incomparable. A reduction in stake online wouldn’t bother me one bit as I am a low roller and I actually think there should be. It’s ludicrous that you can play a £100 a spin or more. What percentage of the worlds population can legitimately afford that? As for being taxed on your winnings the day they bring that in will be the day I walk away from it.
The other problem is FOBTS hit their pinnacle a few years back as far as I can see. I can’t see that they are generating the same turnover as back then. I mean seriously you had to wait to get on one. Now you can walk into the quieter shops and take your pick. This is due to big hitters running out of funds and lists as long as your arms of self exclusions. To compensate this so as to maintain the same profit rtps got choked down until they became unplayable. This undoubtedly happened. The problem is online gaming will be no different and if the government start squeezing it casinos will inevitably end up doing similar.
‘Dilly dilly’.
To answer the first question of this post around 15- 20% better rtp online.
