I honestly do not believe it is in the casinos interest to exterminate low rollers. Labelling players into a certain bracket does not always give an accurate picture of future revenues. Some of todays low rollers could well be tomorrows higher rollers. Lets suppose a low roller hits a big payout at one casino. The money from that, he might well plough straight back into another casino to try his luck.
Revenue from lower rollers may well have a lower mark up for the casino, but it is all profit. After all, even with low rollers we are not talking about people depositing 2 credits and withdrawing 3 credits. They still have to make minimum deposits.
Another fact to consider is a casinos player base is largely made up of these so called low rollers. So wiping out over half of its player base would not make sound business sense. Especially if some of those low rollers have a change in financial circumstances and decide to gamble at slightly higher stakes.
Most people will always gamble within what their budget dictates. Same as when people go shopping. But if that budget increases, for example if the player gets a higher paid job, then he may decide to spend more in the shops and in the casinos, as his disposable income will be higher.
Mike
What I see here in the forum of those of you who do dispute the idea of win line payouts being smaller, casinos getting tighter and so on, is the same response and attitude that we who bring up these subjects are always the ones that are wrong and you and I'm sure most of you that dispute are affiliates for these casinos, won't step outside of your boxes to even consider that yes there is the possibility that something has changed or that low-rollers need to be done away with one way or the other.
Because you always give the same arguement, same stats, same attitude that creates a fortress to protect your interest.
Then ultimately when you know the poster will not relent on a subject, then you bring out the reason of, "You must be having a bad run, or you're not playing right, or maybe you have a gambling problem, or if you aren't happy why not quit". These are your weapons of defense and you are the police on the front line in charge of damage and crowd control. You do your job very well as you know that bottom line is that when people finally do decide they aren't buying the standard reasons of why they are losing daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, then they will quit wasting their money supporting a venue that has become greedy just as any other big corp/business/bankers what have you.
Just like this country of ours, over time the low and middle class is being eliminated as we are forced to pay higher gas prices, forced to pay higher grocery prices, forced to pay higher health cost, forced to pay higher housing prices, forced to pay higher insurance be it auto/home/health. The lower and middle class is either going to have to cough it up to be able to continue in this society or be forced eventually to be living on the streets or with friends and relatives. This has been a long slow process to keep society from realizing what is going on. It's the old put a frog in hot water he'll jump out, but bring him to a boil slowly and he'll stay in the pot.
So why would anyone think for a moment that the casino industry is any different? Do people honestly think it's camelot filled with knights in shinning armor that will always protect and look after the best interest of everyone? I mean really, how deluded do you think we all are.
The comment Simmo made about "Make them all high rollers", means two things, some will get very lucky and win a monster hit, while others will have to up the anty to stay in the game. This is how your force the low-roller to either up the anty or quit.
Since the casino player base is largely made of low rollers as you say and they wouldn't want to lose this big player base, then the casinos have to make them high rollers so as not to be brought down to it's own demise. Again this is done largely by making the low roller have to play the $1 rather than the 20 cents if they want to have more than just a long play session. Unfortunately there are many low rollers willing to accept this and they continue playing. If they deposit their $25 and get no return which I'm sure counts for the majority of $25 depositors, the casino has made $25x? and the player thinks well it was only $25. If the $25 depositor now decides they are tired of the same non productive play they now start depositing $50 and wagering more trying to catch the magic that so many here are always boasting about, giving screenshots of their awesome wins and so on.
It's like you are keeping the herd constantly running to graze in this pasture or that pasture, as long as they keep grazing because you all share an interest in each pasture and will profit from them. The grazing fields get salted so to speak with just enough low rollers finding the good grass to keep all the low rollers thinking they will find it too. Thus keeping the low rolling player in the game.
It is largely a psychology game that is used very effectively to keep the low rollers thinking the casinos are upright and righteous and you too can win. You have to protect your castle and this is what you do very well.
When a small handful of players come along and state things have gotten tight or it just isn't the same anymore they don't do it together to make their forces strong enough to break down the barriers the opposition has in place, thus they are picked off one by one and other players look at a thread and say yeah, they just don't understand the dynamics, or they are just having a bad run, or they feel they are being cheated and are just posting their sour grapes attitudes, or they should just quit if they aren't having any fun or think they are being cheated.
Yes for the few that would take you up on just quitting, you know you won't need to deal with them anymore, but you have to keep your armor on as there will always be another that will venture up to the front line in the battlefield.
It would be interesting to examine the winning the posts and see just how many are won by affiliates that have successfully done their job in defeating yet another rebellion.
because it wasn't "announced" as one..but as I understand it, "adjustments are allowed without "notice" to the players..
