EWX Per Alledged Web Reports, Shut/Seized By US Gov.

It is the Neteller issue all over again. The rep for the Main Street group of casinos posted on the GPWA confirming that funds have indeed been seized by the US DoJ. I also spoke to a couple of operators yesterday who confirmed it as well. They have been notified of the seizure, and that is why EwalletExpress was removed as an option in cashier interfaces.

In the case of some operators, we are talking enormous amounts of money that they may never see again. The good operators who are solvent, and prepared for things like this, won't let it affect their day to day business. But for other less savoury operators, this could be the perfect excuse for them to delay payments, claim processor issues, etc. Similar to what happened when Mastercard levied all the fines against processors who were miscoding transactions. And for operators who relied heavily on EWalletExpress, and run on a shoestring to begin with....this could be trouble for them. I don't mean a few thousand bucks....I mean large sums.

I feel horrid for any of the US customers who have money tied up in there. If it plays out even remotely close to the way Neteller did, it could be months, or upwards of a year before any of you see a cent. And the merchants may never get their money back...probably won't in fact.

This is a perfect example also of why some casino operators would rather not market to the US player base. It makes their processor, and the ewallet companies who work with them....a target.

For those of you in the US who are now frantically searching for other deposit options....be very careful. I see lots of posts from players looking for a way to deposit, but very few who seem just as concerned about withdrawal options. Make sure you have a way to get your money, should you win. And be wary of new ewallets that may pop up now...solely to take advantage of gamblers who are desperate to play. Do your homework.

This really sucks for some of you with large amounts tied up. I hope it gets settled faster than Neteller did.
Excellent points!!

The ability of some merchants to remain as an on-going concern is in question due to multiple reasons. Most e-wallets require merchants to put up reserves for chargebacks, etc. This amount is usually based on the volume of business (deposits,etc.) and can be quite substantial.It would be reasonable to assume that merchants can no longer access these funds. Combine that with a couple substanial wins by punters and the merchant's obvious possible loss of a large amount of their revenues currently! You can finish painting the picture. I'm tired,lol!!
 
Excellent points!!

The ability of some merchants to remain as an on-going concern is in question due to multiple reasons. Most e-wallets require merchants to put up reserves for chargebacks, etc. This amount is usually based on the volume of business (deposits,etc.) and can be quite substantial.It would be reasonable to assume that merchants can no longer access these funds. Combine that with a couples substanial wins by punters and the merchant's obvious possible loss of a large amount of their revenues currently! You can finish painting the picture. I'm tired,lol!!

Exactly the point I was making Nash, lol. I'm tired too. :)

As you said, the ewallets/processor, require the merchant to leave a certain amount of float in their account at all times...in some cases upward of six figures, dependent on the merchant, ewallet, etc. This whole thing could have a "trickle down" effect.
 
If their funds were seized as it seems to be, what is the point of their generic answers? Why not stop live chatting or, better yet, tell the truth?

It's not like stalling buys them any time. Or maybe I'm missing something?
 
I did a search on the Department Of Justice website for Navaho Networks and eWalletXpress and I could not find anything. I thought, and I could be wrong, that when the DOJ seized something they put it up on the site as a press release. So far there is nothing there for the month of November.

I will keep checking, but I guess until we hear it from EWX themselves, it is still a waiting game.

LH
 
I just received an email from VR reversing my $200 withdrawal on 11/15 (forgot about this) stating EWE was no longer an option and to pick QT or ECheck. I wouldn't put a cent in QT right now and know nothing about ECheck.

At least that $200 didn't get frozen at EWE. My last withdrawal from Slotto made it into EWE on 11/15 where it now sits.
 
I did a search on the Department Of Justice website for Navaho Networks and eWalletXpress and I could not find anything. I thought, and I could be wrong, that when the DOJ seized something they put it up on the site as a press release. So far there is nothing there for the month of November.

I will keep checking, but I guess until we hear it from EWX themselves, it is still a waiting game.

LH
All the potential US Government agencies have daily press releases. Any type of seizure may or may not involve the DOJ, FBI, IRS, ATF, DEA, OCC, NFL (j/k), etc. Remember the Bodog seizure of funds in the US. IIRC, it was an IRS guy who went undercover for months. There are so many possibilities that we do not know of potentially with these e-wallets and also, you ready, some of these online casinos.

That said, a Google search , correctly done should give a hit on EWX and/or NN. This morning I tried several and found nothing, of course. Then like you I went to the DOJ's site, plus the FBI's site and for giggles the State of (Southern) New York's A.G. section also. Found nada!!
 
It is clear that the operators know this is NOT simply a "technical issue", since they have removed this option for deposits. When Neteller has "technical issues", it is NOT removed from the cashier in the casino, it just doesn't work.

Operators DON'T want eWalletXpress to "work by accident" when players keep on trying later as they are told, because the deposit will NEVER clear, and they will be faced with the bad PR of taking the deposit, and then refusing to pay the winners.

As well as reversing withdrawals from casinos, US customers should see whether they can reverse recent fundings of eWalletXpress through their banks. Since there is currently no OFFICIAL statement that funds have been seized, the banks may comply. Many banks seem to do this in any case once they become aware that the transactions break the UIGEA, and this has left many US players facing "chargebacks" on their records.

If there ARE still casinos showing this option as available, it might be worth a try getting a deposit to work just to empty the eWalletXpress account. Since there is no OFFICIAL statement, you can justifiably believe what you are currently being told, that it is a technical issue & you just have to try again later. If the industry end up taking on the risk instead of the player, it's their fault for LYING yet again.
 
You might have to file a quick claim at your bank thru their dispute div. to get them to pull it back. I had to do that recently on some unauthorized debits and the money came back immediately before I even finished the claim.
 
I got an email from Cleopatras players club and it still shows EWX as deposit option. It also showed Western Union and their new prepaid cards as an option which I hadn't noticed anywhere before. Might have been available awhile since I'm not usually looking for new deposit option.
 
IMHO, QT will be the next target unless its an gov. opt. I would suggest you play only at casinos that allow moneygram or western union cashouts. They are going to tighten the screws even further. Especially since the Republicans have won the office again. If you got a banking account tied to an online merchant or casino, with money in it. I suggest that you keep min. amounts in that account. Never know if these processors will dip into your account, while this mess is going on. Like all good things online gambling is coming to an end as we know it. Even in Europe now. Casinos are screwing over its players; and even in some cases dipping into some players ewallet and bank accounts.

So a word to the wise. Pay attention to all the warning signs. Maybe its time to start saving up for those vacations again at the B&M casinos. Getting out more. And using the internet only to send and receive emails.

Paypal, Neteller, Firepay, EWX, Instadebit, Click2pay, Moneybooker, Eps Mastercard, Phone cards, etc all are gone. QT is the last man standing for us US players.
 
IMHO, QT will be the next target unless its an gov. opt. I would suggest you play only at casinos that allow moneygram or western union cashouts. They are going to tighten the screws even further. Especially since the Republicans have won the office again. If you got a banking account tied to an online merchant or casino, with money in it. I suggest that you keep min. amounts in that account. Never know if these processors will dip into your account, while this mess is going on. Like all good things online gambling is coming to an end as we know it. Even in Europe now. Casinos are screwing over its players; and even in some cases dipping into some players ewallet and bank accounts.

So a word to the wise. Pay attention to all the warning signs. Maybe its time to start saving up for those vacations again at the B&M casinos. Getting out more. And using the internet only to send and receive emails.

Paypal, Neteller, Firepay, EWX, Instadebit, Click2pay, Moneybooker, Eps Mastercard, Phone cards, etc all are gone. QT is the last man standing for us US players.

QT is not the last man standing on the 2 casinos I play on. I wouldnt use QT anyhow, they charge to use their service, why pay them when you can simply use a Visa ? I use my Visa and have bank wire as my payout option. I am surprised to see so many people panicking.
 
There has been some very good advice in this thread from longstanding members. "Newbies" would do well to heed their advice. They've lived through the Paypal issue, Neteller debacle and tons more. They are offering sage advice to those willing to listen. The way it looks QT is the next target, Visa isn't far behind. Those who are willing to take the chance of depositing and MAYBE winning, stand the chance of losing their winnings or having them tied up while these issues are resolved. Are you willing to "gamble" twice with your money?

Sure, you may still be able to deposit at SOME casinos using your Visa, but what happens when your BANK decides they aren't willing to accept international transfers? There goes your money. Do you think the casinos are going to be concerned if your bank accepts or rejects an international transfer when they have bigger "fish" to worry about?

I wouldn't be surprised to see some US friendly casinos become temporarily unfriendly, until a decision regarding the UIGEA is set in stone. What's the difference of waiting a week or two to see how things work out or taking the chance of trying to find a new way to deposit, only to find out you have NO means to withdraw?

JMO....
 
US Payments a Shell Game

Seems likely that an Up-And-Comer processor like MyPayLinq or MoneyLineWallet will grow as questions about QT/UMW's viability persist. When a processor grows too big, they are hard for the DOJ to miss on the radar. I'm betting though, there will always be a new hot wallet out there, as long as people are willing to spend there money.

For some great background, and recent actions by the US DOJ, check out this great webpage I stumbled on. (It's rather lengthy.)

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QT is not the last man standing on the 2 casinos I play on. I wouldnt use QT anyhow, they charge to use their service, why pay them when you can simply use a Visa ? I use my Visa and have bank wire as my payout option. I am surprised to see so many people panicking.

QT charges only 5% for incoming cc depsoits ----- which when you have no other options isnt too bad. Then just withdraw via ACH from the online casinos. The ACH option from CWC for withdrawals amounts to about 3.5% before it hits my bank.

Unless I am missing something. Yes, I prefer to fund direct with credit cards without a fee, but that is getting tougher and tougher to do. Most consistently AMEX will work at most sites, but then SLOTO cash wont take any credit cards right now.

Diane
 
QT is not the last man standing on the 2 casinos I play on. I wouldnt use QT anyhow, they charge to use their service, why pay them when you can simply use a Visa ? I use my Visa and have bank wire as my payout option. I am surprised to see so many people panicking.

As I see it, unless a player has funds stranded in EWX, there is no need for panic. However... all the warning signs are here. Those of us who have been here for years are experiencing deja vu. LOL

It isn't just the possibility of losing QT that is a concern... it is that casinos can't pay out if too much of their funds are 'locked up' by the DOJ -- whether it's ewx or Visa or whatever the DOJ scapegoat of the month is. A player also wouldn't be wise to leave funds in QT, or a casino for that matter. Not right now, anyway. Using Visa may work for the moment... but should they go back and decide to reclaim those funds used for 'illegal' gambling, your casino accounts will see chargebacks (which you did not initiate).

I haven't left funds in QT since day one as EcoCard herded US players to QT. They can lop us off like a rotting limb. I remember scrambling to get funds out of NETeller...

Anyway... caution is not the same as panic. And now (as it has been since UIGEA and before) is the time for USA players to keep their eyes open and pay attention to the current climate.

I don't like to see players scrambling to deposit, with no thought to how/if they're going to get money out should they win.

I haven't played in over a year, so no big deal for me personally. I'm spending more time doing other things.

I've rambled on long enough. That's Mousey's nickel's worth. ;)
 
Until the US govt figures out a way to get some money out of the online casinos (without upsetting the moralists), the US will always be at war with online gambling. Why should they not be? Their money is going out of the country!


It looks like the US govt has figured out plenty of ways to get money Who gets all the forfeitures I just saw in 'the War against' link posted by bjoslin? (ty btw interesting:) Incredible amounts paid to the US govt.? Condos, cars and who knows what else. I would have nothing to do with US customers if I was an online casino owner, processor or software provider. no speaky d english:eek2:
 
Just an additional note... remember that USA players still playing at MG casinos have also been herded off on our own. Meaning, those MG clones can dump us and run at any time we're deemed a liability. I mean... they're not accredited, and we still don't know who the owners are, do we? If they shut us out, do I think we'll get paid... probably... but how long will that take? And since they aren't really MG anymore.... well... think about it.
 
Just an additional note... remember that USA players still playing at MG casinos have also been herded off on our own. Meaning, those MG clones can dump us and run at any time we're deemed a liability. I mean... they're not accredited, and we still don't know who the owners are, do we? If they shut us out, do I think we'll get paid... probably... but how long will that take? And since they aren't really MG anymore.... well... think about it.

All I know is that Riverbelle has my 100% trust with my money simply because they have never given me reason to not trust them paying me , or using unfair software such as RTG as of late, and the tightest of all, 3dice. I cashed out another 1k just the other night to bring me about even over the last 11 months with one to go for the year. In fact i may be up a little, i have to check. I dont know, Riverbelle just seems so actually care about thier USA players where most others dont.

How often do you guys get gift baskets delivered to your front door on thanksgiving, halloween and Christmas from other casinos? How often does your casino rep personally take the time to call you on the phone, or email you specifically to simply say hello, or share some pictures of what he did over the weekend on the other side of the globe? Im guessing rarely , if ever.

Customer service is pretty much at an all time low in the online gaming industry right now where these guys just keep being real, honest, and genuinely nice to deal with overall.
 
All I know is that Riverbelle has my 100% trust with my money simply because they have never given me reason to not trust them paying me , or using unfair software such as RTG as of late, and the tightest of all, 3dice. I cashed out another 1k just the other night to bring me about even over the last 11 months with one to go for the year. In fact i may be up a little, i have to check. I dont know, Riverbelle just seems so actually care about thier USA players where most others dont.

How often do you guys get gift baskets delivered to your front door on thanksgiving, halloween and Christmas from other casinos? How often does your casino rep personally take the time to call you on the phone, or email you specifically to simply say hello, or share some pictures of what he did over the weekend on the other side of the globe? Im guessing rarely , if ever.

Customer service is pretty much at an all time low in the online gaming industry right now where these guys just keep being real, honest, and genuinely nice to deal with overall.


I get awesome ones from 3dice! I mean top o the line baskets. :thumbsup:
 
How often do you guys get gift baskets delivered to your front door on thanksgiving, halloween and Christmas from other casinos? How often does your casino rep personally take the time to call you on the phone, or email you specifically to simply say hello, or share some pictures of what he did over the weekend on the other side of the globe? Im guessing rarely , if ever.

Not all of us have the option to play there. Banned years ago because of the state I live in. So it doesn't matter how good the service is etc. because it's a no go.

Seems like you are having a good experience with them. More power to you...
 
All I know is that Riverbelle has my 100% trust with my money simply because they have never given me reason to not trust them paying me , or using unfair software such as RTG as of late, and the tightest of all, 3dice. I cashed out another 1k just the other night to bring me about even over the last 11 months with one to go for the year. In fact i may be up a little, i have to check. I dont know, Riverbelle just seems so actually care about thier USA players where most others dont.

How often do you guys get gift baskets delivered to your front door on thanksgiving, halloween and Christmas from other casinos? How often does your casino rep personally take the time to call you on the phone, or email you specifically to simply say hello, or share some pictures of what he did over the weekend on the other side of the globe? Im guessing rarely , if ever.

Customer service is pretty much at an all time low in the online gaming industry right now where these guys just keep being real, honest, and genuinely nice to deal with overall.

I had a similar experience with Mummy's Gold... I still have beautiful things they sent. But they left the USA market... and dumped the USA players (and me) like a hot potato. LOL

I'm not saying the new clones are dishonest. I'm saying they're NOT MicroGaming. MG has herded us off to this weird 'cloneware' -- can't even remember what it's called, now -- with no logical explanation. I didn't like it when they did it, and I don't like it any better now that, so long after the fact, we still have no clue as to the purpose of this 'special' software for us.

You're talking about your gaming experience. I'm glad you're happy and winning and getting paid and receive high roller goodies. :thumbsup:

But I'm talking about the logistics of moving money from 'here' to 'there' and vice versa and what happens when the DOJ seizes millions of dollars of players' monies. (Been there, done that, didn't even get a lousy t-shirt. LOL) The avenues that are left for depositing and withdrawing are continuing to narrow.

Good luck to all. Please keep us posted on the EWX situation.
 
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It really does suck for everyone that has money stuck in ewx right now. I have been playing online since 98 and i seen this crap go down several times and thankfully i have avoided it everytime also,lol. Lucky for me that i haven't played at any online casinos this year except a handful of times at 3 dice. So because of that it won't be hard to stay completly away until this crazy assed government gets it's shit together and see's we are adults that don't need our money supervised for us. I won't even add money to my poker sites but seeing as how i have funds on like 25 of them i will try to slowly withdraw the funds or play with them until they are gone. Hopefully the wait isn'y very long :cool:
 
It seems like there is only one source for the whole "shut down by gov" theory and that's the Bingo Wire quote of a "mass email" that no one else is claiming to have received.

I'm not saying it's false, but it seems like everyone is basing their assumptions on that one piece of unconfirmed information.

Of course, EWX continuing to avoid answering questions doesn't look good, but that could mean any number of things.
 
It seems like there is only one source for the whole "shut down by gov" theory and that's the Bingo Wire quote of a "mass email" that no one else is claiming to have received.

I'm not saying it's false, but it seems like everyone is basing their assumptions on that one piece of unconfirmed information.

Of course, EWX continuing to avoid answering questions doesn't look good, but that could mean any number of things.

Not true....if you read the whole thread, you will see that a few of us have had it confirmed by operators (who wish to remain anonymous), that EWX has indeed been shut down (for now) and had funds seized. In some cases, VERY large amounts of money which in all likelihood, they will never see again. Player's funds are another matter...just speculating, but I would think that will go much the same as Neteller did. A settlement will be negotiated, heavy fines will be levied and eventually some process will come to light that will facilitate the return of player's funds...exactly as Neteller did.

But it has happened, unless the operators are lying about it. And EWX is no longer available as a deposit/withdraw option at casino sites. Also a rep from the Mainstreet Group posted at the GPWA confirming the closure and seizure as reported.

It's not a rumour.
 
Not true....if you read the whole thread, you will see that a few of us have had it confirmed by operators (who wish to remain anonymous), that EWX has indeed been shut down (for now) and had funds seized. In some cases, VERY large amounts of money which in all likelihood, they will never see again. Player's funds are another matter...just speculating, but I would think that will go much the same as Neteller did. A settlement will be negotiated, heavy fines will be levied and eventually some process will come to light that will facilitate the return of player's funds...exactly as Neteller did.

But it has happened, unless the operators are lying about it. And EWX is no longer available as a deposit/withdraw option at casino sites. Also a rep from the Mainstreet Group posted at the GPWA confirming the closure and seizure as reported.

It's not a rumour.

Thank you for clarifying that for me.

EWX customer support told me that I can request a withdrawal if I like, but that it would take over the normal 10 days to process.

Should individuals be requesting withdrawals or is it pointless since the funds are frozen anyways?
 
Thank you for clarifying that for me.

EWX customer support told me that I can request a withdrawal if I like, but that it would take over the normal 10 days to process. Should individuals be requesting withdrawals or is it pointless since the funds are frozen anyways?

This is EXACTLY what Neteller told all US players when THEY had their funds frozen, and ex execs held hostage by the DoJ. This more or less CONFIRMS the story.

They are ONLY giving out this curious "advice" to keep the lie alive that this really IS an issue that thay actually have some power over.

If they had said you CAN'T withdraw right now, the lie would collapse.

You can request a withdrawal, but it will take far longer than 10 days, and NOT because they are overwhelmed and pulling extra shifts to get through the request, but because they have no liquid funds available, and most of the cashiers will have been sent home, with only a few in place to log the withdrawal requests under "whenever" for processing.

Until the fate of the frozen funds is decided, they cannot be moved. Neteller took the best part of 2 years from beginning to end, with US players having to wait a year of this for a deal to be struck that enabled the return of outstanding balances.

I note in the chat transcripts posted that CS NEVER give a straight answer to the direct question "is it true your funds have been seized". IF this was merely a "technical issue", they would be falling over themselves to make it absolutely clear that the rumours were NOT true, instead, when answering that question the human goes away, and has the "robot" speak the standard answer for them.

It is a bit like the suspect who says "no comment" under police interview, rather than admitting or denying anything put to them.

It is possible that EWX are hoping to buy time with this lie, and maybe the merchants are cooperating, because if the truth were confirmed, there WOULD be a stampede by US players to get their money out any way they can, and currently they are still "in time" to dispute some transactions with their banks. IF they can stall for long enough, the right to dispute the transactions will lapse.

Because of the roundabout way these transactions are made, withdrawals may NOT look like a "return of deposits" to the banks, and any dispute may result in the "chargeback" of GROSS deposits into EWX, and even those directly into casinos, with NO abatement for monies already paid out in withdrawals by other means.

The US government and banks are NOT going to care that merchants risk being driven out of business, the money will be back in the country, and the industry driven closer to extinction.

It is the industry that set these schemes up, and they should NOT be trying to lie their way out of a fix at the expense of players who are not told the TRUE degree of risk attached to the funds they currently have sitting around in various parts of this industrial "system".

Remember how Neteller panned out, and also remember "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on ME".

Light a BIG fire under EWX, and keep it going until they start telling the TRUTH, and give back the money they have tied up.
 
If they had said you CAN'T withdraw right now, the lie would collapse.

When I asked last week via live chat how to withdraw money, the response was that no transfers were coming in or going out. No offer of starting a withdrawal for me, it wasn't an option.

Just now I called them and requested my balance withdrawn in full. Danielle went through the motions with verification and gave me the now standard it's going to take more time line.
 
Can someone explain to me what is the point of continued live chat and phone support if the funds were seized? Why go through the motions of pretend withdrawals? Why still pay employees if your business is dead?
 
Can someone explain to me what is the point of continued live chat and phone support if the funds were seized? Why go through the motions of pretend withdrawals? Why still pay employees if your business is dead?

To give credibility to the LIE that this is all about "technical issues".

"technical issues" always get fixed in the end, so they HAVE to "go through the motions" of logging withdrawals, verification, and queueing them for processing, just to keep up the illusion that once the issues are fixed, they will process the withdrawals in the queue.

This is EXACTLY what Neteller did when they suddenly blocked all gambling transactions for US players, leaving money trapped. US players were told they could either clear their accounts, or use the funds for non gambling related purchases. They also quickly blocked P2P transactions, since this was one "allowable non-gambling transactions" that US players cottoned on to as a means to get their funds out of Neteller. Clearly, Neteller could not actually ALLOW US players to make "non gambling transcations", since the funds were only numbers in software, the assets backing the numbers had been frozen, and Neteller could NOT "clear" the transactions.

Now, is it possible to "do P2P" with EWX? Or better still, use it for other purchases. I remember someone said it was born from the need to transact for "porn" sites, and only later moved into online gambling.

If merchants have not removed EWX, it might still work provided the software has been "kept in the dark" about the seizure, and STILL thinks it is ONLY an issue with funding and withdrawing from EWX, rather than USING EWX with merchants.
 
So do you thing that EWE will continue to stay in business and not offer services to US customers like Neteller? I just figured they were going out of the business completely.

There doesn't appear to be any option to use EWE except for gambling.
 
After reading threw this tread this is my assumption. Yes we all know ewxpress is gone now the fight will start to see if and who will get money. Now did anyone else notice that at the same time arc went dead on qt. Then cc went down on micro and some rtg casinos. Hmmmm tells me visa is also doing a crackdown and casinos had to shut down and switch processors again. Qt is gonna get hit either by our government or by Visa. They can try to lay low but I think there done. Visa right now I feel is not a safe option. They MAY BE TAGGING CARDS AGAIN. Meaning they are marking foreign transactions and who is coding them then going after the processors as well as people who are using them will soon get a mastercard from their banks. The best thing to do is lay low. I know no one wants to hear it but it is are safest option. If visa nails cards casinos will not get paid which means if you win you may not get paid and if so how? It seems their is a deadline date of the first of the year to clean up and get rid of all online casino usa processors Maybe this is why we are not seeing any info on Gov sites their are more raids to come. Lay low play in fun mode grab your money while you can. I wouldn't trust the emails of new fly by night companies. Thank GOD 3dice has free tourneys and a chat room lol something to do and wont cost a dime.

It sucks big time I know but we have all been threw this before and to panic is not the answer. Get your money out of any casino while you can. If charge backs start hitting the last thing you want is your winnings confiscated. This is my observation. Hope it may help.
 
Could this be the reason I haven't gotten vip offers from club world or inet..We have mostly deposited through ewallet??..Haven't gotten any in about amonth..Where we were getting offers every week..Even freebees?:what:
 
I've been getting emails from plenty of RTG's and everyone else but maybe some saw something coming or knew something who knows.

And tat to the best of my knowledge no, they are not the same at all. And you're not dumb, it's just hard to keep up with the constant changes and trying to get your win out of these casinos a few times a year can be like pulling teeth and really helps you to get to know the ropes. Hands on experience. :) (I speak for the USA of course)
 
I think it is..I do notice they still except money orders and bank wire...Also noticed inet and slaotastic doesn't have ewallet in there bank but they do have direct deposit from other providers..they reacted quick..Club world won't let me to there cashier area for some reason...Maybe just as well:Read:
 
you aren't dumb. Its confusing. eWalletXpress is NOT Quick Tender. Two separate entities.

Quick tender is UseMyWallet - not sure why two names for same business but they are one and the same.

Diane

To make it even more confusing...
Two/three months ago, when I last played Slotocash...usemywallet/QT would also state "loading Ecocard".
 

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