Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists

[sufferinsilence]

Depending on how many times in a row it happens, the chance is actually a bit slimmer than that.

But yes, in that scenario, the ball will always hop out of the 8 or the 11 and into the 30. Usually in the same weird, artificial manner: ball lies perfectly still on 8/11.. then starts "buzzing" (as if somebody has put it on vibrate) until it jumps out like a piece of freshly popped popcorn, and always - I can't state this enough: ALWAYS - into the one losing number.
I have absolutely never, not once, seen it happen the other way (from loser to winner).

He is talking about roulette on the FOBT's tho, that's another kind of beast and I assume those are programmed to give near misses because an addicted gambler actually has more of a response to a near miss than to an actual win.

 

[kelapa]

He is talking about roulette on the FOBT's tho, that's another kind of beast and I assume those are programmed to give near misses because an addicted gambler actually has more of a response to a near miss than to an actual win.

Ah, now we're getting somewhere.
Psychologically speaking, it's very clever, playing the punter's emotions.

Near-misses is indeed all I can get out of Evolution's roulette tables. Always - without a single exception - just ONE spot next to the winning number.

In 80% of the cases*, the ball first lands very comfortably on the winner (in no way that it could reasonably be expected to richochet back out) and then hops into the losing number next door.
The ball will even hop from number to number (one at a time... in a bizarre, completely unnatural flea-like action) if it has to escape an entirely chipped section.


* Note: In the remaining 20% of the cases, the ball will simply land on the losing number immediately.
Yes, that totals 100%. There is no chance of winning a spin.

Also, the hopping behaviour abruptly stops as soon as you stop betting.

Please let all this sink in. It's the literal truth. There is not a snowball's chance that this isn't rigged.

 

[Xclockersx]

It does it online the near misses to tease you gambling should be banned

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

guys thread is derailing? i though it was about evolution live roulette and not roulette in general. If your comments about evolution live roulette is that they cheat you, and get the ball to land somewhere else, then its absolute nonsense.

There is no chance that would be correct unless you are betting close to max bet around numbers. (even this is a bad statement from me i know) But why would the casino want to cheat exactly you guys? when there are 100's or 1000's playing at the same time and watching exact same live roulette wheel?

I will leave that as my last comment as i am starting to find it boring looking at this thread over and over again

Online and at bookies which is not live roulette i DO agree with you guys but its all graphics there so no natural roll from a ball really. When you play roulette not being live you are basically playing on your own and you have a set RTP on yourself. And i agree you can feel here they cheat you or on purpose make ball land where they want it to. But in LIVE roulette its all random unless a rigged table in eastern europe. Big providers who has massive checkups NO CHANCE!

 

[Xclockersx]

We are talking about evolution mainly

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Ah, now we're getting somewhere.
Psychologically speaking, it's very clever, playing the punter's emotions.

Near-misses is indeed all I can get out of Evolution's roulette tables. Always - without a single exception - just ONE spot next to the winning number.

In 80% of the cases*, the ball first lands very comfortably on the winner (in no way that it could reasonably be expected to richochet back out) and then hops into the losing number next door.
The ball will even hop from number to number (one at a time... in a bizarre, completely unnatural flea-like action) if it has to escape an entirely chipped section.


* Note: In the remaining 20% of the cases, the ball will simply land on the losing number immediately.
Yes, that totals 100%. There is no chance of winning a spin.

Also, the hopping behaviour abruptly stops as soon as you stop betting.

Please let all this sink in. It's the literal truth. There is not a snowball's chance that this isn't rigged.

There are no losing numbers only for you or other players. Overall all numbers are either winning or losing. There will be bets from players covering either most or all numbers. Your comments regarding live roulette are absolute nonsense sorry mate not having a go at you.

 

[Xclockersx]

I don’t believe live casinos are random I’ve been to a live casino it went on 11 (jackpot) some how moved to 36..

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I don’t believe live casinos are random I’ve been to a live casino it went on 11 (jackpot) some how moved to 36..

I did say it was my last post but oh well I will say as much that I used to feel evolution is not to be trusted and have seen others complain.

I have also heard about rumours on some live roulette tables they can use some kind of chip or machine where they can change outcome.

Other way around is they can ensure that the ball lands in a certain area.

But its all speculations mate and we will never know 100% unless proof is put out.

I do agree though despite it should be 100% random and have same feeling about slots that its not always random but again who knows.

I am mainly a slots players and tend to stay way clear of Roulette table etc unless im in a brick and mortar casino. Which I used to do when living in Denmark.

 

[kelapa]

There are no losing numbers only for you or other players. Overall all numbers are either winning or losing. There will be bets from players covering either most or all numbers. Your comments regarding live roulette are absolute nonsense sorry mate not having a go at you.

Have you ever even played this table?
You're in denial, sorry mate.

I know it sounds pretty wild, but it's the absolute truth.
This happens. It's happening right this very moment.

It is impossible to win a spin. Every single one, up to fifty times in a row, will land on ONE SPOT next to your numbers (no matter how few OR how many are chipped).

So you can do two things:
- Claim that what I just said doesn't happen, in which case you're objectively wrong.
- Claim that it's all a massive, astronomical coincidence which has been going on for years... in which case: do you honestly believe that is possible?

 

[TheresNoDInBonanza]

Every single one, up to fifty times in a row, will land on ONE SPOT next to your numbers (no matter how few OR how many are chipped).

You keep saying this but if it's happening EVERY single time fifty times in a row it should be a trivial matter to get incredibly damning video evidence.
Yet each video you post is a few short spins with barely unusual results, far from these astronomical streaks you self-report.

I'm not saying I don't believe you or it's not crooked, just that if it's so blatantly obvious, that if you can chip every number except one and it'll land in that one fifty times in a row, why not prove it? You're obviously dedicated to playing there (for some reason).

 

[Borgie]

I agree. You need evidence of a massively long streak. If it's as you say should be easy to capture.

 

[TheresNoDInBonanza]

Not

I agree. You need evidence of a massively long streak. If it's as you say should be easy to capture.

Not even massively long, I'd be convinced with 3 landings on a number with every other one chipped or something like that.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Hey Kelapa, I found your distant cousin on youtube

WARNING! THIS VIDEO CONTAINS FOUL BLASPHEMOUS LANGUAGE:

 

[Xclockersx]

Hull

 

[kelapa]

Not even massively long, I'd be convinced with 3 landings on a number with every other one chipped or something like that.

I've not done that little experiment for a few months. Guess I'll give it a shot.

Btw, one reason I've eased off on recording is that Bandicam suddenly started slowing down the roulette window. The mouse cursor would lag behind, leaving me with not enough time to place my bets.
But the all-numbers-but-a-few experiment, I can do with a straight forward repeat, I suppose.

 

[kelapa]

Hey Kelapa, I found your distant cousin on youtube

WARNING! THIS VIDEO CONTAINS FOUL BLASPHEMOUS LANGUAGE:

Fuck Christmas indeed, mate.

 

[kelapa]

To squeeze a serious note out of that video: "Always next door" indeed.
As someone else mentioned here about a page ago, that's a great trick to rip off an addict. Tease them by ensuring the ball always lands "next door".

For bonus points: after the punter stops, immediately make the ball hit all his highest-stacked numbers.

 

[paul7388]

Here's a suggestion

Go buy yourself a decent Roulette wheel. Then sit and make a few thousand spins on it and watch the way the ball lands. You will see that indeed a ball does bounce and act weird on many occasions.

But even spinning it yourself i am sure you will be convinced youhave been sold a faulty wheel lol

 

[paul7388]

The latest numbers on Evo's roulette: 0 30 0 30 0 30 0 30 2 25 30 0 30

The 2 and 25 happened when I gave in and put some money on 0 and 30.


Apart from that bit of fun, I've mostly just been observing a bit.
Everyone is losing. Everyone is calling them frauds. Everyone tearing their hair out over how the ball jumps out of their winning areas every single round.

I dipped my toes in for seven rounds (each with 68% chance of winning). Lost all of them.
Then, for good measure, I covered every number except the zero area for four rounds. Results: 26 26 0 35

Everybody else was complaining about exactly the same shit: that the ball would only find their numbers whenever they took their chips off them, usually the very same round.

That sequence you posted is indeed strange and rare but possible.

But look at the numbers. I personally if i play roulette and i know most people do the same always cover 0. In fact i would say 0 is probably the most bet single number on the wheel. That sequence to me would have actually meant " it was rigged in favour of the player" lol.

But seriously. Every spin could have hundreds of different players. The chances of them betting same numbers as you are highly unlikely. But you still believe the ball will jump out and land on the first losing number you have even tho someone else will win.

It is simple laws of physics. A ball spinning around at different momentum as it lands and the angle it lands will cause the ball to move in many different ways. I have tried it myself with roulette wheels and the ball sure acts strange. But it is natural not rigged.

But no one will ever convince you. Seriously you are spending every moment convincing yourself and trying to convince others it is rigged. It is not healthy for you and you are getting yourself more down and worked up all the time.

Long term this will do you no good. Maybe time to just go i am right it is rigged , I knew this all the time and i have proved it. Now I will not give them any more money and will find something else to do. I know you won't but really you should.

 

[ed skull murphy]

To squeeze a serious note out of that video: "Always next door" indeed.
As someone else mentioned here about a page ago, that's a great trick to rip off an addict. Tease them by ensuring the ball always lands "next door".

For bonus points: after the punter stops, immediately make the ball hit all his highest-stacked numbers.

Paul is right, but if you want to continue playing roulette, the first thing you should do is change the casino you play on, and make a point of never playing that fake motorised table ever again.

I can assure you that if you play on other tables on a good stable, casino site; some of the UK/Gibraltar bookmakers are among the best, Leovegas or betsson group are also excellent; then there are evolution tables that I trust implicitly for their randomness and fairness.

I've said it before, I like the live streams from the b&ms, or the Immersive table, or if I am on a budget, the low stakes partage auto-wheel, which is live streamed from a casino in Flanders.

Rule of thumb, if the wheel direction is not alternated between spins, I won't play on that wheel, because it is motorised, and a motorised wheel can be manipulated. I am not necessarily saying that it is, but the technology exists.

Come on mate... quit beating your head against a brick wall and try a new scene. You have proven your point, I think.

 

[kelapa]

Here's a suggestion

Go buy yourself a decent Roulette wheel. Then sit and make a few thousand spins on it and watch the way the ball lands. You will see that indeed a ball does bounce and act weird on many occasions.

But even spinning it yourself i am sure you will be convinced youhave been sold a faulty wheel lol

I've occasionally played in real life casinos, and of course there are bounces and ricochets there. But those are absolutely nothing like what happens at Evolution's.
I'm a programmer, got my feet firmly planted on the ground (quite sceptical in fact). I'm fully aware of the odds and of the ways of random numbers. This place simply stinks.

 

[kelapa]

That sequence you posted is indeed strange and rare but possible.

Of course it's all possible. The ball hitting zero 30 times in a row is also possible.
It's even possible that the ball would hit those 30 zeroes exactly during the only 30 spins that a player (who normally always covers zero) leaves it uncovered for the first time in his gambling life.

It's all possible. Just extremely unlikely to the point that you'd have to be the most gullible of fools to believe it's a coincidence..
Especially taking into account all the other strange behaviour at the table.
If it had only been that 0 30 0 streak, I would have shrugged, shaken my head and carried on. But unfortunately, bizarre occurrences are the norm rather than the exception.

It is simple laws of physics. A ball spinning around at different momentum as it lands and the angle it lands will cause the ball to move in many different ways. I have tried it myself with roulette wheels and the ball sure acts strange. But it is natural not rigged.

Then explain how it's possible that the ball - without a single exception - lands outside your chipped areas?
How come it never occurs the other way? How come it never makes one of these strange, unnatural hops INTO a winning number instead of AWAY from one?

I have literally seen thousands of balls sit quietly in a winning number, then start buzzing and shaking before hopping into the ONE losing number that's nearish.
I have NEVER, not a SINGLE time, seen it play to the advantage of a punter.
That is statistically impossible, you must agree.

 

[paul7388]

But as has been explained many a time. Your losing numbers will be many others winning numbers.

At a typical spin on average it will work out that just about every different number will win or lose same amount. So this is why noone can believe that they go christ he has covered these numbers so we need to make sure it avoids them. Every number you leave blank will be covered by many others. So these dodgy weird ball jumps are benefiting many others.

 

[kelapa]

Paul is right, but if you want to continue playing roulette, the first thing you should do is change the casino you play on, and make a point of never playing that fake motorised table ever again.

I can assure you that if you play on other tables on a good stable, casino site; some of the UK/Gibraltar bookmakers are among the best, Leovegas or betsson group are also excellent; then there are evolution tables that I trust implicitly for their randomness and fairness.

I've said it before, I like the live streams from the b&ms, or the Immersive table, or if I am on a budget, the low stakes partage auto-wheel, which is live streamed from a casino in Flanders.

Rule of thumb, if the wheel direction is not alternated between spins, I won't play on that wheel, because it is motorised, and a motorised wheel can be manipulated. I am not necessarily saying that it is, but the technology exists.

Come on mate... quit beating your head against a brick wall and try a new scene. You have proven your point, I think.

I mostly like Evolution's tables because of ease of use. I've looked at a few other online tables, but their interfaces are usually clunky and often don't let me easily chip neighbours.
Wish Evo would just pack in their business and sell their visual interface off to another company that isn't based in Maffia HQ.

Anyway, I have no interest in gambling if there isn't some element of skill involved.
Without wanting to toot my own horn here, I'm reeeally good at pattern recognition. That - and some understanding of human psychology - helps me predict football matches.

In roulette, depending on the dealer, there are also patterns. The 17 very often follows the 35, for example. That's not some numerological hocus pocus, of course.. it's a matter of the ball covering similar distances each round if thrown by somebody with a steady enough hand.
If the wheel is spinning the other way, it's more likely to land around 33 (same distance).

That strategy usually helps me win nicely at roulette, including at Evo's for the first six months. I would turn 30 euros into 500 every other day, without breaking a sweat.
Since May 2017, it's like I've been quietly blacklisted.

I have no illusions that I'll ever win a spin again at Evolution. The brick wall won't budge. And my head hurts plenty already.
But the least I can do - as long as spare time permits it - is put a spotlight on it.

 

[kelapa]

But as has been explained many a time. Your losing numbers will be many others winning numbers.

At a typical spin on average it will work out that just about every different number will win or lose same amount. So this is why noone can believe that they go christ he has covered these numbers so we need to make sure it avoids them. Every number you leave blank will be covered by many others. So these dodgy weird ball jumps are benefiting many others.

I've already answered that one more times than I care to remember, but here we go:

1. It usually happens far more often at night, when there are far fewer players online. Fewer players = More numbers left unchipped.

2. Even if there are many players, some numbers will be chipped less than others. Evo's software can easily pick out those numbers and steer the ball there.

3. This is a little more out there, but there's reasonable doubt about whether the winning players are real. There are some bots on Evo - some of them even chat a little. You can tell them apart from real players because they usually aren't verbally jerking off over the dealers.


It could be one of these factors, or a combination of them. Fact is that it's most definitely possible to pull this. I could build it myself fairly easily, given the budget and tools.

 

[cncas2123]

But why are they always picking on you?

 

[cncas2123]

And when the sequence of 0 30 0 etc came out, why not try a chip on them just in case ? You say that after 35 you can be sure 17 or 33 will come along because of distance between them, 0 and 30 are only a couple of numbers outside that distance so why can’t that be seen as a normal expected pattern?

 

[kelapa]

And when the sequence of 0 30 0 etc came out, why not try a chip on them just in case ? You say that after 35 you can be sure 17 or 33 will come along because of distance between them, 0 and 30 are only a couple of numbers outside that distance so why can’t that be seen as a normal expected pattern?

I did, like I said.
Twice. You can guess what happened.

 

[kelapa]

But why are they always picking on you?

It's not just me. Plenty of other punters who report the exact same issues. Not just losing... but consistently losing every single spin, every day by ONE slot's difference. Ball hops out of their winners, etc. Exactly what I have been describing and showing in this thread.

 

[kelapa]

I chipped the entire LEFT half of the wheel for twenty-two spins in a row (only skipping one).
All of a sudden, the ball was only capable of falling on the RIGHT half. I did not get a single win.

About halfway through, I skipped one round to see what would happen. That was the one time the ball fell on a number on the left half.

Well, I remembered this particular bizarro streak, and this morning I decided to quickly scan through the last 500 rounds of Evo to see if anything like this had been happening again.
Of course not.

In fact, I'd wager my arm that the only time that the ball completely avoided the left half of the wheel for a ridiculous length of time was exactly during those twenty-two spins of mine.

 

[neilw]

That sequence you posted is indeed strange and rare but possible.

But look at the numbers. I personally if i play roulette and i know most people do the same always cover 0. In fact i would say 0 is probably the most bet single number on the wheel. That sequence to me would have actually meant " it was rigged in favour of the player" lol.

But seriously. Every spin could have hundreds of different players. The chances of them betting same numbers as you are highly unlikely. But you still believe the ball will jump out and land on the first losing number you have even tho someone else will win.

It is simple laws of physics. A ball spinning around at different momentum as it lands and the angle it lands will cause the ball to move in many different ways. I have tried it myself with roulette wheels and the ball sure acts strange. But it is natural not rigged.

But no one will ever convince you. Seriously you are spending every moment convincing yourself and trying to convince others it is rigged. It is not healthy for you and you are getting yourself more down and worked up all the time.

Long term this will do you no good. Maybe time to just go i am right it is rigged , I knew this all the time and i have proved it. Now I will not give them any more money and will find something else to do. I know you won't but really you should.

I see sequences like this all the time. Here's one I caught the end of at a Playtech Live casino, 4 30's in a row.


I bet the Playtech compliance team were doing their nut when the third one came in, let alone the 4th - I just wonder how much they lost on those 4 spins.
.

 

[dunover]

There is one way to prove this issue either way. Starting at any given point (you'd likely need software to perform the tasks and 'read' the bets laid) observe a few thousand spins and each time note the casino's liability for all 37 numbers on the wheel assuming you can bet the 0. In other words, depending on where the bets are laid on the baize you will have all 37 positions ranked in order from most to least liability for that spin, to the casino.

Over time the number ranked 1 for the highest liability and the number ranked 37th. should appear in a similar amount.

You'd be able to tell very quickly IF the wheel was favouring the number(s) which had lowest liability for the casino by deviation from the expected random results. Remember IF rigging was taking place it will look good along the way as somebody will be winning at a busy wheel every spin so it could easily be disguised.

So over a few thousand spins you'd expect the wheel to stop 1/9 times on the 4 HIGHEST liability numbers and the 4 LOWEST liability numbers. The beauty of this is that you're not predicting any particular number and aiming to say find after 3,700 spins all 37 numbers have appeared 10 times (it'd take far more than 3,700 spins for that to pan out) but a few thousand spins would be enough to establish a pattern of compensatory/rigged behaviour.

So, Kelapa, if you can record a provable sequence of say 2000 spins and show us a graph of the results in relation to casino liability for those spins which in turn shows us the wheel favouring certain outcomes then I'll back you all the way.

 

[neilw]

There is one way to prove this issue either way. Starting at any given point (you'd likely need software to perform the tasks and 'read' the bets laid) observe a few thousand spins and each time note the casino's liability for all 37 numbers on the wheel assuming you can bet the 0. In other words, depending on where the bets are laid on the baize you will have all 37 positions ranked in order from most to least liability for that spin, to the casino.

Over time the number ranked 1 for the highest liability and the number ranked 37th. should appear in a similar amount.

You'd be able to tell very quickly IF the wheel was favouring the number(s) which had lowest liability for the casino by deviation from the expected random results. Remember IF rigging was taking place it will look good along the way as somebody will be winning at a busy wheel every spin so it could easily be disguised.

So over a few thousand spins you'd expect the wheel to stop 1/9 times on the 4 HIGHEST liability numbers and the 4 LOWEST liability numbers. The beauty of this is that you're not predicting any particular number and aiming to say find after 3,700 spins all 37 numbers have appeared 10 times (it'd take far more than 3,700 spins for that to pan out) but a few thousand spins would be enough to establish a pattern of compensatory/rigged behaviour.

So, Kelapa, if you can record a provable sequence of say 2000 spins and show us a graph of the results in relation to casino liability for those spins which in turn shows us the wheel favouring certain outcomes then I'll back you all the way.

Trouble is players don't have access to how much money is being placed on each number, or even how many players are at the table playing.
You can look at the stats, up to the last 500 spins and see the dispersion over the wheel. It would be relatively easy to keep a record of each 500 spins and build some stats from those. In my experience the dispersion across all the numbers is fairly consistent. I've checked wheels from different providers and never really seen anything that would suggest a wheel is rigged or mis-behaving. A mis-behaving wheel is as much of a risk to the casino as it can be a positive for an advantage player, that's why they are so closely monitored for balance, spin speeds, dealer bias etc.

 

[ed skull murphy]

If the wheel is spinning the other way, it's more likely to land around 33 (same distance).

But this wheel never spins the other way, it only goes clockwise, driven by a motor. Surely that is enough to set off alarm bells.

 

[goatwack]

It's quite simple to find out what's going on here. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Hence, attempt to cover nothing at all. If you win, then it serves as riggedness in play......albeit of the good variety.

Can't believe no one's suggested this yet

 

[dunover]

Trouble is players don't have access to how much money is being placed on each number, or even how many players are at the table playing.
You can look at the stats, up to the last 500 spins and see the dispersion over the wheel. It would be relatively easy to keep a record of each 500 spins and build some stats from those. In my experience the dispersion across all the numbers is fairly consistent. I've checked wheels from different providers and never really seen anything that would suggest a wheel is rigged or mis-behaving. A mis-behaving wheel is as much of a risk to the casino as it can be a positive for an advantage player, that's why they are so closely monitored for balance, spin speeds, dealer bias etc.

Well therein lies the problem - on some computer simulation multiplayer versions you can, same as with poker games. Number dispersion over the wheel is meaningless if it cannot be analysed in order to work the house edge out over a large number of spins because it gives no indication of WHERE the money is on those numbers.

A rigged game doesn't need to be favourable to any particular named number or group of numbers, but favourable to the number(s) over a period of time that carry most risk in relation to stakes played. This is the beauty of running a rigged wheel, as due to the variations in players, their lucky numbers and betting patterns it would be nearly impossible to spot as like you say the dispersion of 1-36 will seem quite normal regardless.

Theoretical house edge is 2.77% on roulette with a non-bettable '0' and even if you can bet the 0 it will void and red/black bets and still create a smaller house edge that way. So depending on the mechanic of the Evolution game the only way we/he could ever prove it's deviating from expected RTP significantly is by knowing the stakes/betting placements for the spins we're analysing. Without this, it's all conjecture as one player like the OP could never prove it.

 

[kelapa]

Trouble is players don't have access to how much money is being placed on each number, or even how many players are at the table playing.
You can look at the stats, up to the last 500 spins and see the dispersion over the wheel. It would be relatively easy to keep a record of each 500 spins and build some stats from those. In my experience the dispersion across all the numbers is fairly consistent.

Yep, it all evens out if you stretch your scope wide enough.

In fact, this also provides a consistent explanation for the phenomenon of somebody betting on a certain area for an entire afternoon without the ball dropping there once, only to be FLOODED with those numbers as soon as they give up and remove their chips.
Evo has to make the average appear normal again.

I've seen this occur far, FAR more times than is natural or explicable by other means.

It's even become an in-joke in the chat. If a number drops four or five times in a row, people comment that somebody must have just removed their chips.
Turns out this usually is exactly the case. Rage quits then ensue.


My worst experience with that is when I spent 1.5 hours betting on the zero area non-stop without the ball dropping there a single time.
Then I suddenly had seven bets in a row rejected. Each of these spins landed in the zero area.
Then the "mysterious" network problem vanished again, and the next three bets were allowed again, all three landing outside the zero area.
Then another six successive bets were rejected, again each of them landing inside the zero area.

Instead of suffering a few hundred euros in losses, I would have made thousands in profit.

(Needless to say, my network monitors didn't show any latency or hiccups whatsoever all this time.)

I suppose, because I wasn't giving up on the zero area, they had to force something in order to keep their averages from becoming overly suspicious. So they simply blocked my thirteen winning bets, while allowing the scores of losing ones.


P.S. This particular story, as an isolated case, could just about be chalked up to a very, very weird coincidence.
But, look at this thread, it's just one incredibly weird coincidence in an OCEAN of incredibly weird coincidences, occurring over the course of nearly two years... every single last one of them to the advantage of the casino; not one of them to the player.
See also my 22 spins betting on the left half of the wheel, as I mentioned earlier.

 

[cncas2123]

That’s the problem ... we don’t see anything only 3 losing spins, no 20 losing spins , no 1.5 hours of losing spins and rejected bets, only that you are the one always losing

 

[kelapa]

That’s the problem ... we don’t see anything only 3 losing spins, no 20 losing spins , no 1.5 hours of losing spins and rejected bets, only that you are the one always losing

The fact that you don't believe it is quite reassuring.
It tells me that if this had happened to you, you too would've been convinced.

Unfortunately, no, I didn't start recording video until a few months ago. The zero game rejection thing happened last year.
And also unfortunately, the recording proggie has started interfering with the actual roulette, so I have to either find a way to fix it or change it for a different bit of software. Until then, no more videos.

Anyway, it's not like I haven't already shown some really weird shit.

 

[kelapa]

For the (unrecorded) record, I just completed twenty spins in which the ball landed EXACTLY next to my numbers every single time.
I even ended up calling them, while the ball was still spinning. All I needed was a quick glance to see which two numbers fell just outside my area (which covered about half of the wheel). Every single time, I got it right. Each and every one of these twenty rounds.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I see sequences like this all the time. Here's one I caught the end of at a Playtech Live casino, 4 30's in a row.


I bet the Playtech compliance team were doing their nut when the third one came in, let alone the 4th - I just wonder how much they lost on those 4 spins.
.

That one is really strange i must admit. Not that a number can come out 4 times in a row and it can happen i seen it 5 times in a row.

But that the guy (Dealer) then says 30 that is 2nd time in a row???? its 4th time in a row. That one smells fishy to me. If you check video at around 01.50 minutes

 

[kelapa]

That one is really strange i must admit. Not that a number can come out 4 times in a row and it can happen i seen it 5 times in a row.

But that the guy (Dealer) then says 30 that is 2nd time in a row???? its 4th time in a row. That one smells fishy to me. If you check video at around 01.50 minutes

Judging by some of his words, he just started his shift.
I think the first two 30's were spun by the dealer before him. (Not sure though.)


And no, four x 30 isn't that weird.
But it does get a little weird if those four spins happen right after you've taken your chips off that number. Then we're entering Evo territory.

 

[neilw]

That one is really strange i must admit. Not that a number can come out 4 times in a row and it can happen i seen it 5 times in a row.

But that the guy (Dealer) then says 30 that is 2nd time in a row???? its 4th time in a row. That one smells fishy to me. If you check video at around 01.50 minutes

He spun them all himself, i was watching and only stared to record as the third one hit. He was too busy talking to notice what was going on, there was nothing fishy about it.

 

[dunover]

Only a 50,653/1 chance 1/1x1/37x1/37x1/37 - what's so unusual about that?

4 wilds in the bonus Raging Rhino, 4 Wild reels WD on Immortal, Wild line DoA FS etc. all have longer odds than that yet we all see them quite regularly!

 

[ed skull murphy]

Playtech is as straight as an arrow, in my experience, but that is not to deny that the trends can be a bit tricky at times...

The dealer has just made a mistake calling 'second time in a row'

 

[Imnotmatthew]

Was playing roulette yestaday playing big on 5 8 11 got 10 next door to 5 then it kept going on 30 to piss me off they make it go next to your number to piss you off

 

[Reelsoffun]

I see sequences like this all the time. Here's one I caught the end of at a Playtech Live casino, 4 30's in a row.


I bet the Playtech compliance team were doing their nut when the third one came in, let alone the 4th - I just wonder how much they lost on those 4 spins.
.

Did he just say second time in a row?

 

[kelapa]

Was playing roulette yestaday playing big on 5 8 11 got 10 next door to 5 then it kept going on 30 to piss me off they make it go next to your number to piss you off

You'd like that Playtech dealer.

 

[Imnotmatthew]

What ya mean

 

[Imnotmatthew]

They put it on 30 to piss me off considering I was playing big in 8 and 11