Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists

[kelapa]

Also, I don't understand if you're getting so thoroughly screwed why on earth are you still playing there?

All valid questions! All heard before!
For the longest time, I just kept at it because I refused to believe it could be rigged. I figured I was having a very long streak of ridiculous bad luck.

But then I decided to just test it. I placed strategic bets that were almost impossible to lose consistently (like 13-36 ten times in a row, followed by 7-36 three times in a row).
Or cover the entire board except for five numbers: eight times in a row without winning; each time the ball landed exactly on one of the five unchipped numbers after weird, aggressive leaps that didn't occur before or after I placed this bet.
Just two examples.

After a good while of witnessing absolutely insane results in a very consistent manner, I'd seen enough.
I recorded a bunch of videos and posted them here.

Then I took a six-month break, which I ended a few weeks ago. Actually managed a decent session or two, which got my hopes up.
But now Evo wants it back, I'm afraid. The ball is back to making bizarre circus leaps and coming to unnatural grinding halts in mid-air, always resulting in extremely unlikely losses on my end.

I'll see if I can catch them at it again. Got my cam proggie at the ready..

 

[sufferinsilence]

You should let us know when you play and which numbers so we can cover the rest and get rich

 

[kelapa]

Well, managed to capture most of last night's effort.
I even used the chat input field to throw in some commentary/predictions about what will happen.
Compared to my previous experiences, this session looked relatively normal, but still showcases some typical Evo-isms.



Starting money: 58.32

SPIN 1
Ball typically lands on 32, in an area where only 19 and 32 were losing numbers.
Could've been worse, I suppose. Only lost half of my chips for that round.
RESULT: -8.5 (money left: 49.82)

SPIN 2
Ball initially touches down cosily in the middle of chipped numbers. Rolls on until it finds the first unchipped one.
RESULT: -20 (money left: 29.82)

SPIN 3
Ball touches down right in the middle of the big winners (1+neighbours), but bounces right off it and lands way back on the 12.
Could've been worse, because I had half a chip on that. Still frustrating.
RESULT: -11 (money left: 18.82)

SPIN 4
Another 32, another "could've been worse".
RESULT -1 (money left: 17.82)

SPIN 5
Looked for a moment like it would land around the zero, where I'd chipped heavily. Ball escapes and lands on 2 instead.
RESULT: -12 (money left: 5.82)

SPIN 6
Down to my last chips. That's pretty much the only time when I stand a decent chance of winning anything. Lots of people experience the same thing at Evo. Can't win a single round until it's their very last. I figure it's to give them a spark of hope and keep them hooked.
As you can see, I typed this into the chat box as it happened. As certain I was that I'd lose all the previous spins, I knew 90% that I'd win this one.
RESULT: +12.50 (money left: 18.32)

SPIN 7
Ball skips towards the big money (17 and 25), but then bounces right off them and rolls back to 30.
RESULT: -14.50 (money left: 3.82)

SPIN 8
Down to the last few chips again, so feeling pretty confident that I'll get a win. Even if my theoretical winning odds have shrunk greatly.
Not this time though. Maybe because I didn't put all of them on the table.
RESULT: -2.50 (money left: 1.32)

SPIN 9
Only two chips left. Already smirking a bit to myself, I cover the numbers 1, 4, 17 and 20. It lands on 17.
RESULT: +8 (money left: 9.32)

SPIN 10
I try to put the full nine euros' worth of chips on the table, but to my dismay I'm €0.18 short of being allowed to cover 7+neighbours.
So I already know that's exactly where the ball will drop. It lands right on the 7.
RESULT: -7 (money left: 2.32)

SPIN 11
Down to nothing yet again. Give it my best shot, but the ball lands one number next to a winner (16 instead of 24).
Game over.
RESULT: -2 (money left: 0.32)


Purely result-wise, this is what happens every session. Not nearly as many crazy jumps this time, but still pretty typical.
If I had started off with a much bigger balance, say € 400, the exact same thing would have happened... I'd have lost every round except for when I'm playing with my last few chips.
That's pretty much set in stone.

For what it's worth, the other player there lost € 1200 without winning a single round. Called them cheats and that he'd never come back. Not sure about the latter statement, but I can empathise with the former.

 

[neilw]

I watched the video and here are my observations.

You won on 5 game rounds
You lost on 6 game rounds

You cover numbers with a stake that doesn't cover your total bet if you win.

You bet too much of your bankroll on one spin.

The way you play will lead to you losing you're bankroll most times, as you're betting more than you can win on a spin most of the time. That's just basic maths.

Thanks for posting.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Purely result-wise, this is what happens every session. Not nearly as many crazy jumps this time, but still pretty typical.

If I had started off with a much bigger balance, say € 400, the exact same thing would have happened... I'd have lost every round except for when I'm playing with my last few chips.
That's pretty much set in stone.

For what it's worth, the other player there lost € 1200 without winning a single round. Called them cheats and that he'd never come back. Not sure about the latter statement, but I can empathise with the former.

I realise that you are attempting to demonstrate your suspicions, but why put more on the table than you can hope to win on most of your numbers? Every number covered should give some profit, at least.

I know I have said it before, but I played that table only a couple of times, in the beginning, and have never played it since. I find it repulsive, to be honest, and I mean that in the literal sense; the entire look and feel of it repels me, even the dolly birds look fake.

 

[kelapa]

I watched the video and here are my observations.

You won on 5 game rounds
You lost on 6 game rounds

You cover numbers with a stake that doesn't cover your total bet if you win.

You bet too much of your bankroll on one spin.

The way you play will lead to you losing you're bankroll most times, as you're betting more than you can win on a spin most of the time. That's just basic maths.

Thanks for posting.

I don't play to win (since this is not a possibility at Evolution Roulette). I play to prove that they are rigged.

Saying I "won" 5 game rounds is oversimplifying things to an extent that it reads like willful ignorance.
Look at which numbers are the profitable ones each spin. Look at where the ball lands each spin.
Once is a coincidence.
Twice is bad luck.
Every single time is fraud.

It doesn't matter how many or how few numbers you chip. The ball is consistently maneuvered away from every number that yields profit. There are no exceptions to this rule. Therefore, the board is rigged, because it is statistically impossible for this to occur over the course of approximately two thousand spins.

For the nth time, go ahead and try it yourself.

 

[kelapa]

I realise that you are attempting to demonstrate your suspicions, but why put more on the table than you can hope to win on most of your numbers? Every number covered should give some profit, at least.

Like I said, I'm not playing to win.

I purposefully stack chips higher in certain places across the board.
The ball then avoids these places, every single round.

That's all there is to it.

To see what I mean, go to the table and start by covering half of all numbers. (50/50 sounds fair, right?)
Then, with every round, chip one more additional number.
Keep going until there's only five or six numbers left unchipped.

Then come back here and tell us where the ball landed each spin. You might be surprised.

If I'm right, you'll notice that the more numbers you cover, the more the ball will start jumping and careening back and forth, avoiding your numbers at all costs.
When you've got most numbers covered, the ball's movements will start to completely defy all laws of physics.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Like I said, I'm not playing to win.

I purposefully stack chips higher in certain places across the board.
The ball then avoids these places, every single round.

That's all there is to it.

To see what I mean, go to the table and start by covering half of all numbers. (50/50 sounds fair, right?)
Then, with every round, chip one more additional number.
Keep going until there's only five or six numbers left unchipped.

Then come back here and tell us where the ball landed each spin. You might be surprised.

If I'm right, you'll notice that the more numbers you cover, the more the ball will start jumping and careening back and forth, avoiding your numbers at all costs.
When you've got most numbers covered, the ball's movements will start to completely defy all laws of physics.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

But I never play that table. I hate that table, in all it's utter fakeness, more than you can imagine. Why anyone would risk their money on that nonsense is beyond me.

I think you have proven your point. Now let's move on and find a better table to play on.

 

[kelapa]

Well, any reason to hate that table is a good one, I suppose.

I'll upload the video of tonight's session in a moment. Plenty of weirdness again..

 

[kelapa]

I'll upload the video of tonight's session in a moment. Plenty of weirdness again..

Almost forgot to post it.


Evo has stepped up into full insanity mode. The stuff in the above video completely pales in comparison.
It's actually kinda fascinating to watch.

I chipped the entire LEFT half of the wheel for twenty-two spins in a row (only skipping one).
All of a sudden, the ball was only capable of falling on the RIGHT half. I did not get a single win.

About halfway through, I skipped one round to see what would happen. That was the one time the ball fell on a number on the left half.

Evolution are scam artists. And I'm glad to report that this knowledge is spreading.

 

[kelapa]

I don't use the chat function myself, but here's what the other (real) punters are saying...

As you can see, it's not just me. Everyone gets ripped off.
This is all you'll ever read in the chat. Joke's on the punters for coming back, I guess.

casualboy
iam going to deposit 1 time 40 euro.. last time.. iam going to film amd record my play.. because you cheat .. everybody is going to see it.. iam going to upload it to every online casino forum..
fred200
red is magid
casualboy
evo is cheating
casualboy
last deposit... recorsinggggg
casualboy
you see no price again
casualboy
iam recording.. as you can see evo is very good in giving price when you not bet
demianT
hallo roy
casualboy
price????? no!!!!!
Radyed
i have lost all my money by evo i have nothing more my very salris scammers
jaymadarun
dude, you're playing by yoursel
jaymadarun
yourself
Radyed
yes bur evo r scammers .
jaymadarun
i think it isnt a good idea to spend all you salary here haha
otso95
I like the way you handle that ball lol
casualboy
bahbah.. scammers!
jaymadarun
but when you cant afford losing money,..
jaymadarun
you cant play bro haha
demianT
21 nu
HilightshoW
all in 5 23 30
Radyed
******* frauds
jaymadarun
how much money did you lose?
Radyed
1200€ lost
demianT
all fucked
Radyed
yeah
jaymadarun
yeah, but tbh this is what this site exists for haha
jaymadarun
its fucked up man.. so much money
HilightshoW
lol
HilightshoW
nice
Radyed
within 2 hours everything gone
casualboy
boh rayes.. sick of this
jaymadarun
but then i wonder why do you stake so much in 2 hours haha
demianT
she always spins exactly the numbers i dont chip ffs
casualboy
baight
Radyed
yeah i win a tiny bit and then they rape you. every time
casualboy
thieves
jaymadarun
yeh man
jaymadarun
thats how it always goes haha
jaymadarun
9/10 x you lose
jaymadarun
1x you win a little bit
jaymadarun
then you think hey i'll keep going
jaymadarun
and then its all gone
Radyed
theyre just a bunch of scammers
PetStuBa
especially auto roulette, bunch of scam artists

 

[neilw]

I don't have the time to watch all the video, perhaps someone else will.

I watched the first 4 spins and you lost 2 and won two and then i randomly looked further into the video and saw you hit more wins.. How is that losing every single spin? If the run is further on in the video then I apologize. Also you are not chipping one half completely, you're leaving numbers out, perhaps you mean something different when you say you chip the entire LEFT side of the wheel. I'm just not seeing what you are saying is happening. Perhaps it's just me!.

Thanks again for taking the time to record your session. at least we have a better understanding of the situation now. Personally I think you should take a break from Roulette at Evo. You'll save money and probably feel better for it.

 

[kelapa]

I watched the first 4 spins and you lost 2 and won two and then i randomly looked further into the video and saw you hit more wins.. How is that losing every single spin? If the run is further on in the video then I apologize. Also you are not chipping one half completely, you're leaving numbers out, perhaps you mean something different when you say you chip the entire LEFT side of the wheel. I'm just not seeing what you are saying is happening. Perhaps it's just me!.

Sorry! Bad editing!
The left/right spins happened in a different session, sadly not recorded. But that type of thing happens often enough that I'll catch it sooner or later.

 

[TheAddict]

Sounds like the same kind of atmosphere you'd get if walking into a bookies that was allowed 20 fobt machines in.

 

[kelapa]

Sounds like the same kind of atmosphere you'd get if walking into a bookies that was allowed 20 fobt machines in.

There's certainly a kind of atmosphere of knuckledragging, if that's what you mean.
But they're definitely all complaining about the same thing that I've observed.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I've been playing the Immersive table a bit recently, which has more distinct ridges around the pockets. As a result, the ball pretty much lands where it drops.

 

[kelapa]

I watched the first 4 spins and you lost 2 and won two and then i randomly looked further into the video and saw you hit more wins.. How is that losing every single spin? If the run is further on in the video then I apologize. Also you are not chipping one half completely, you're leaving numbers out, perhaps you mean something different when you say you chip the entire LEFT side of the wheel. I'm just not seeing what you are saying is happening. Perhaps it's just me!.

Let me quickly elaborate on both the video and the (sadly not recorded LEFT/RIGHT debacle):

The video shows how the ball avoids the profitable areas of the wheel. Yes, there are "wins" here and there.. but always at a net loss.
As you can see, I chip some numbers higher than others. You can clearly see that the ball very often lands on these numbers, but then makes bizarre movements to wriggle its way out of there.
I have to watch it again myself, tbh. It's rather long and not very pretty..


The LEFT/RIGHT thing then. By the left half of the wheel, I mean all numbers from 0, 26, 3 ... all the way down to 24, 5, 10.
I consistently chipped each and every one of those number for twenty-two successive rounds (only missing one round). This is what happened..

The first spin, I cheered because the ball had landed on 14. Then my cheer turned sour when I realised I had accidentally left 14 unchipped. So I groaned, chipped the number 14 and proceeded.

Rounds two - thirteen all resulted in the ball landing on the RIGHT half of the wheel. Lots of times, the ball landed smack bang in the middle of the LEFT half, lay there still for a second... and THEN skipped slot by slot by slot until it passed the number 10 and entered the RIGHT zone. It literally looks like somebody is holding a magnet underneath the wheel and is slowly pulling the ball along. A very deliberate, controlled motion. I know physics. This is not that.

By now appropriately cynical, I decided to skip a round to see what would happen. The ball landed on the LEFT for the first time.

Rounds fifteen to twenty-two were exactly like the other rounds. Every single ball landed on the RIGHT half.
And I can't insist enough on this: half of the time, the ball settled on a winning number.. and each time, some invisible force would pull it out of its slot and draaaaaag it all the way to the other side. Either Evo is haunted or...

I actually did seven more spins like this tonight, to see if it was an insane fluke.
It landed on the winning half once. The other six all fell on the opposite end.
The second I stopped playing, things turned back to normal again.


So... the grand total result of playing the left half of the wheel (plus zero, so 51% chance to win):
28 losses
1 win

 

[TheresNoDInBonanza]

Shame you weren't recording that!

 

[dogshead1]

Evolution gaming is rigged for sure. Always every session I played the stream would be prefect with no interruptions then boom. When your running good you place a bet, 'should' hit a huge win only for your bet to be rejected and they tell you the bet wasn't placed in time. Then a few spins after they contradict themselves when you start to place a bet and the timer jumps as if there is a delay the buffer comes up with a blank screen and your bet is stuck on the table as accepted. By the time it comes round your apparently missed 2-3 betting rounds and you bet was apparently a loss. So if you've apparently lost connection should your bet not be rejected? same as the above when you won?

 

[kelapa]

Evolution gaming is rigged for sure. Always every session I played the stream would be prefect with no interruptions then boom. When your running good you place a bet, 'should' hit a huge win only for your bet to be rejected and they tell you the bet wasn't placed in time. Then a few spins after they contradict themselves when you start to place a bet and the timer jumps as if there is a delay the buffer comes up with a blank screen and your bet is stuck on the table as accepted. By the time it comes round your apparently missed 2-3 betting rounds and you bet was apparently a loss. So if you've apparently lost connection should your bet not be rejected? same as the above when you won?

Yes, this happened constantly up until late last year.
But Evo doesn't use that strategy anymore. Now they just focus on moving the ball away from your numbers.

 

[TheAddict]

I don't play the game, so i can't really give a solid opinion. I also don't wish to help give you reason to go on a life time quest to prove your claim. But i did watch rocknrolla's recently uploaded utube video questioning (not accusing!) netents roulette. If you slow the vid down at 26 seconds, for when he shouts WTF, the ball really does look to kind defy the laws of gravity.

 

[kelapa]

I don't play the game, so i can't really give a solid opinion. I also don't wish to help give you reason to go on a life time quest to prove your claim. But i did watch rocknrolla's recently uploaded utube video questioning (not accusing!) netents roulette. If you slow the vid down at 26 seconds, for when he shouts WTF, the ball really does look to kind defy the laws of gravity.

"WTF" sounds very familiar.
Can you point me towards that video?

 

[TheAddict]

"WTF" sounds very familiar.
Can you point me towards that video?

Rocknrolla's gambling channel.
Vid name: rigged roulette spin???

 

[ed skull murphy]

It does look a bit suspect, but you do see crazy spins occasionally, and ask yourselves, how would it be achieved deliberately, in the case of that spin?

The only possibility I can think of would be by releasing compressed air in the pockets that you want the ball to avoid, but you'd hear it and probably see it.

I can't see a magnet being able to achieve that movement, unless it were a hugely powerful one.

 

[mack341]

There's another one I remember from rocknrolla, his facial reaction says it all. It happens just after 2.20 mins:




There was quite a lot of discussion about it in the comment section on youtube under the video.
Apologies if this has already been posted but as a non roulette player I haven't followed this thread all the way through

 

[TheAddict]

No idea m8. Some say air in the comments, some say the littlle "strip" tha it sits on as the wheel spins was magnetically turned on lol. Some say the speed of the wheel and velocity of the ball meant thats how it kind of didnt drop.
Just looks weird, especially in slow mo, since it was near the end of the spin and looked like it should really be settling and dropping rather than skipping past those numbers.
But i dont play it so dont get to see "crazy spins", rolla obviously plays it a fair bit and as said he doesn't recall having seen that happen b4.

 

[ed skull murphy]

No idea m8. Some say air in the comments, some say the littlle "strip" tha it sits on as the wheel spins was magnetically turned on lol. Some say the speed of the wheel and velocity of the ball meant thats how it kind of didnt drop.
Just looks weird, especially in slow mo, since it was near the end of the spin and looked like it should really be settling and dropping rather than skipping past those numbers.
But i dont play it so dont get to see "crazy spins", rolla obviously plays it a fair bit and as said he doesn't recall having seen that happen b4.

I just watched it again, yeah it's as dodgy as fk... strong magnet by the looks of it. That puts a new perspective on things, thanks for posting. I don't play much NetEnt these days, anyways.

Here's the link.


edit: By Jove! I think I've cracked it.

How about a circle of electro-magnets, underneath the centre dome, but fixed to the table rather than the wheel.

When the ball drops, the corresponding magnet is switched on, it snatches the ball out of the pocket, the ball rolls along the dome and is deposited in the desired pocket by the magnet being switched off.

 

[kelapa]

I just watched it again, yeah it's as dodgy as fk... strong magnet by the looks of it. That puts a new perspective on things, thanks for posting. I don't play much NetEnt these days, anyways.

Here's the link.

Okay, that's basically what I get hundreds of times. Literally that.
The ball lands on a winner, then it quickly and very unnaturally gets pushed away from the winning area.

So how is this a "new perspective on things"?

What you see in this video (and in the one that mack341 posted) is LITERALLY what happens at Evolution every single day, all year long.

And I've recorded it plenty of times and posted it here. So why is this suddenly such a shocker?

Btw, has any action been taken against NetEnt?

 

[ed skull murphy]

Okay, that's basically what I get hundreds of times. Literally that.
The ball lands on a winner, then it quickly and very unnaturally gets pushed away from the winning area.

So how is this a "new perspective on things"?

What you see in this video (and in the one that mack341 posted) is LITERALLY what happens at Evolution every single day, all year long.

And I've recorded it plenty of times and posted it here. So why is this suddenly such a shocker?

But I'm on Evolution pretty much all the time lately, mostly the live b&m streams, and I don't experience these things at all.

Btw, has any action been taken against NetEnt?

I think the appropriate action would be to vote with your feet, as I also did with that fake table that you seem so keen on.

 

[kelapa]

But I'm on Evolution pretty much all the time lately, mostly the live b&m streams, and I don't experience these things at all.

I'm usually good with acronyms, but you must help me out here. What's b&m?

I think the appropriate action would be to vote with your feet, as I also did with that fake table that you seem so keen on.

I'd prefer to use those feet to kick down a few doors.

 

[aceking123]

Bm = bricks & mortar casinos. Public places as such real casinos

 

[aceking123]

As for weird roulette online ive seen many of them . Including black outs, bets been rejected & balls being almost pushed ten numbers past. Which I would say is air driven. Running of rim happens a lot As well online.

 

[kelapa]

As for weird roulette online ive seen many of them . Including black outs, bets been rejected & balls being almost pushed ten numbers past. Which I would say is air driven. Running of run happens a lot As well online.

How precise is this air technique?
I've seen them repeatedly pick out one specific losing number among rows of winning numbers (the very same number up to four times in a row).

 

[ed skull murphy]

As for weird roulette online ive seen many of them . Including black outs, bets been rejected & balls being almost pushed ten numbers past. Which I would say is air driven. Running of rim happens a lot As well online.

I get bets rejected occasionally, but that is often down to connection issues, or a busy traffic at the providers end. I once felt stiffed at Asper's online, after experiencing a string of rejected winners, interspersed with some accepted losers, but a quick look into the founder's biography gives some clues to that one, on the other hand it may have just been pure coincidence...

 

[ed skull murphy]

I'd prefer to use those feet to kick down a few doors.

Why bother? Let the internet take care of it. Like I said, personally, I'm doing ok on Evolution, but I avoid half of their tables.

 

[kelapa]

Why bother? Let the internet take care of it. Like I said, personally, I'm doing ok on Evolution, but I avoid half of their tables.

The internet definitely is helping. I've noticed that word is spreading. This very thread has even been linked to in some articles!

 

[goatwack]

The internet definitely is helping. I've noticed that word is spreading. This very thread has even been linked to in some articles!

Thing is, this is achieving very little overall. Even if by a miracle Netent and Evolution were found to be cheating, how does one prove it fully, and how does one reimburse every player to have ever been diddled

Best outcome is they'd get fined, but even then it's likely to be negligible, and they would have still 'won'.....

As it stands, players are moving away from Netent's games, so there's always that at least

And Evolution Roulette would be last on my list, not to mention there's about 200 more reputable casinos to play Roulette at....

Always wanted to play Baccarat. Anyone know how to play Baccarat? That looks like a real game

 

[kelapa]

Thing is, this is achieving very little overall. Even if by a miracle Netent and Evolution were found to be cheating, how does one prove it fully, and how does one reimburse every player to have ever been diddled

Best outcome is they'd get fined, but even then it's likely to be negligible, and they would have still 'won'.....

As it stands, players are moving away from Netent's games, so there's always that at least

And Evolution Roulette would be last on my list, not to mention there's about 200 more reputable casinos to play Roulette at....

Always wanted to play Baccarat. Anyone know how to play Baccarat? That looks like a real game

If Evolution are found guilty, then what indeed?
As it stands, they are a criminal organisation. By all means, they should be put away.

But likelier is that they would just kick a few people out and just start over "clean". *shrug*

I'm game for Baccarat, whatever it is.

 

[ed skull murphy]

If Evolution are found guilty, then what indeed?
As it stands, they are a criminal organisation. By all means, they should be put away.

But likelier is that they would just kick a few people out and just start over "clean". *shrug*

I'm game for Baccarat, whatever it is.

It's calle 'Punto Banco' in Dutch casinos, you just have to guess whether the card count will result in 'Player' or 'Bank' or 'Tie'.

I once witnessed an Indian gentleman join a game with one thousand guilders and parlay it up into thirty-odd grand in a very short time, after which he cashed in his chips, pretty impressive! That was at the Amsterdam Lido.

 

[kelapa]

Here's another five successive spins in which the ball gets removed from the profitable numbers.
It's a pretty decent showcase of an average Evolution Roulette session. Always landing on the winners, but never staying there, no matter what weird jerks or jumps it has to make.



Evolution are clever. Sure they're corrupt, but they're clever too.
They manipulate the ball to avoid it hitting the most profitable numbers. This probably is meant to help things look less suspicious, but take a look at what happens during this average set of spins on Evolution Roulette.

SPIN 1
The ball touches down on 1. Of course, this means a decent payout, so Evolution quickly pip the ball onto the next number: 33.
Net profit: € 1 instead of € 19.

SPIN 2
The ball seems to land around 14, which is right among the big-winning numbers (1, 20, 14, 31, 9).
It instead hops exactly to 22... the nearest non-double-chipped number. Note how in both the first two spins, the ball manages to jump precisely over the same "big winners".
Net profit: € 1 instead of € 19.

SPIN 3
The ball appears to touch down around the jackpot (number 25 and its neighbours).
But it then wildly veers off to the opposite side of the wheel.
Net profit: € 1 instead of € 37

SPIN 4
Trying some different numbers at last.
The ball once again manages to avoid the double-chipped numbers, and yet again by only the tiniest of margins.
Net profit: € 8 instead of € 26

SPIN 5
Ball touches down around 22, which is once again a "big winner".
And yet again, it pedals back to just outside that area.
Except this time, it takes a SECOND jump (from 29 to 28) to make sure I get wiped out completely.
Net profit: LOSS of € 12.50 instead of € 23.50

Evolution will keep teasing you like this, making sure you never make any real profit, but you keep playing, hoping that the ball won't make that weird jump/crawl the next time...
Then, after a while, you will only get spins like the fifth one in the video. Total loss after total loss. More relevantly, the ball will always get blocked from the double-chipped numbers. It's an invisible wall. This way, you will never land a real winner.

P.S. For the record, these five spins were preceded by another forty-ish spins exactly like these. Unfortunately, I missed out on recording these, which included a bunch of truly outrageous ball manipulations. These five are pretty weird too though.

 

[sufferinsilence]

But what about the other players? Do you think they have the same numbers chipped as you? Or do you think Evo is sending different video to all players?

They can't avoid all big payouts... I'm not suggesting you're talking sh*t but I'm genuinely wondering how you think they pull this off for the tens, hundreds if not thousands of players at the same time. And my best guess would be that if it was manipulated they'd send the ball to the number that has the least chips on it, which would be the most logical way of going about it.

 

[TheAddict]

Spin 5 sucks balls. No pun intended.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Spin 5 certainly looks strange, but to me the whole set up looks strange. I mean, the wheel is motorised, it only spins clockwise, and there is very little human input, except launching the ball in the same direction every time, it's a complete joke.

Why anyone would risk their money on this fake nonsense is beyond me.

 

[cncas2123]

Am I missing something? 4 winning spins out of 5 ?? And that’s an issue and a scam ? You have a 50% coverage so you are making a profit on 4 of the 5 spins and to me it’s the staking strategy that’s wrong

 

[aceking123]

How precise is this air technique?
I've seen them repeatedly pick out one specific losing number among rows of winning numbers (the very same number up to four times in a row).

I'm not sure but it seems very very odd that the ball seems to hold high as gravity would take effect. Like I said I've watched some very odd shit in online roulette.
I've yet to see any of this in a real casino other than ball flying out & odd occasion the running of the rim. I ball hovering is a new one on me. Connection issues is pretty much bullshit. It does happen but not at the rate of online suggests. I've played up to 6 hours without any bleep. But when playing high stakes it plays up. Coincidence maybe but something doesn't feel right.
Certain software do this.

 

[kelapa]

But what about the other players? Do you think they have the same numbers chipped as you? Or do you think Evo is sending different video to all players?

I answer this exact same question every page of this thread.. I really need to include a personal FAQ in my signature.

Evolution's software is perfectly capable of picking the number that best suits their own needs.
Besides that, there most likely aren't as many players present as they make it seem. After each spin, they show a list of winning punters. None of these winners have ever said a single word in the chat.

 

[kelapa]

Am I missing something? 4 winning spins out of 5 ?? And that’s an issue and a scam ? You have a 50% coverage so you are making a profit on 4 of the 5 spins and to me it’s the staking strategy that’s wrong

Read my comments.

I lost € 0.50 instead of winning € 124.50

And that's just five spins played by one punter. So - if you know how to extrapolate - you can imagine why Evolution would bother.

 

[kelapa]

Spin 5 sucks balls. No pun intended.

Spin 5 certainly looks strange

I've seen far more outrageous ones, often repeatedly, spin after spin. You'll spot a few of those in my previous videos!

Sometimes the ball makes a whole series of those little hops, skipping one or two slots at a time while the wheel has already slowed down and the ball itself should have zero momentum.
They can easily make the ball cross the entire distance to the opposite end of the wheel if that's where the only losing number happens to be located.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I answer this exact same question every page of this thread.. I really need to include a personal FAQ in my signature.

Evolution's software is perfectly capable of picking the number that best suits their own needs.
Besides that, there most likely aren't as many players present as they make it seem. After each spin, they show a list of winning punters. None of these winners have ever said a single word in the chat.

Some might have their chat privileges revoked like you, or simply don't want to chat. Once in a blue moon when I'm playing live casino I never type in the chat because it doesn't appeal to me.

Anyway, if all roulette players who think the Evo tables are corrupt would just stop playing on Evo tables the situation would solve itself. Yes, there are new punters all the time but if they play a few times then they should also notice the strange behaviour.

 

[kelapa]

Some might have their chat privileges revoked like you, or simply don't want to chat. Once in a blue moon when I'm playing live casino I never type in the chat because it doesn't appeal to me.

Anyway, if all roulette players who think the Evo tables are corrupt would just stop playing on Evo tables the situation would solve itself. Yes, there are new punters all the time but if they play a few times then they should also notice the strange behaviour.

I suppose the trick is to let the players get agonisingly close to the big wins all the time. Walk that fine line between frustrating the punter and keeping them coming back to see if this might be the day that it falls one millimeter to the left instead of to the right...

Also, Evolution have the "too big to fail" factor on their side. People don't really believe that such a thing would be happening in broad daylight. Especially Northern Europeans and Scandinavians, who form the bulk of the clientele. They're more naive about these things than the average Eastern European who frequently faces corruption in their daily life.

It took me a long time to believe it as well. "No way... they wouldn't..."