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Poll England vs Italy Euro 2020 Final Discussion

Who will win the Euro 2020 Final

  • England

    Votes: 14 32.6%

  • Italy

    Votes: 18 41.9%

  • England - Extra Time

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • Italy - Extra Time

    Votes: 7 16.3%

  • England - Penalties

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • Italy- Penalties

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Total voters
    43
  • Poll closed .
TheAddict said:
Can we cancel this game and open shops back up plz. I canne get no tobacco round here reeeee
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Where theres a will theres a way.

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TheAddict said:
Almost turned into an Italian today. Woke up and had to change the toilet seat. then i sat down to eat some pasta. if I'd have picked up Peroni which i sometimes do instead of San miguel, it would have been a very weird coincidence :D





Also, fuck. 1-1.
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Glad someone else shares my fondness for eating on the toilet
 
Yep, it's a stinging way to lose, we had the first half, they the second, extra time pretty even and we finished with the 3 shittiest, tame & flaccid penalty kicks that have ever disgraced a major penalty shootout. So we deserved to lose. But that said, it was nice to experience a final for the first time in my life and they did well overall. Congrats Italy, the old Italian guile of fouling mixed with quick precise play helped them along and they held their nerve at the vital moment.
 
paul7388 said:
I hear the streets of Glasgow and Edinburgh are wet with tears tonight.... :cheers: :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Yeah Dunover they sure are. Think it is called tears of joy and laughter.
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I'd have been miffed by that remark if it wasn't for the fact it was posted after the result haha
 
Was thinking before they took the penalties they missed that it was a huge ask to sub those youngsters on, essentially adding to an already immense amount of pressure after sitting on a bench for 1.5 hours and then to be told their first touch of a ball is going to be one of the most important touches they might make in their career, essentialy multiplying the presure tenfold on what it was already. Glad Lineker and Shearer mentioned the same thoughts after. Managed to predict where each of them would shoot too that ended up missing or saved. (Yes, like ive been saying for the past 20 years when England play, i should have been the manager)


Credit to Italy though on the whole. Some dirty play here and there, especially the pull back on the half way line on Saka that would have probably let him run on towards goal with his pace if it didnt happen (id of probably pulled him over too lol)
 
To be fair to England the opportunity to win it was in the first half (esp the first 1/2 hour) where the Italians didn't look like they'd gotten out of bed; felt like if they'd went for their throats, could have had a few but, after that, it was reminiscent of the Italians of old. Kane going awol in the second didn't help.

Other disappointing thing was having to listen to that dipshit Ferdinand for longer than one should.
 
TheAddict said:
Was thinking before they took the penalties they missed that it was a huge ask to sub those youngsters on, essentially adding to an already immense amount of pressure after sitting on a bench for 1.5 hours and then to be told their first touch of a ball is going to be one of the most important touches they might make in their career, essentialy multiplying the presure tenfold on what it was already. Glad Lineker and Shearer mentioned the same thoughts after. Managed to predict where each of them would shoot too that ended up missing or saved. (Yes, like ive been saying for the past 20 years when England play, i should have been the manager)


Credit to Italy though on the whole. Some dirty play here and there, especially the pull back on the half way line on Saka that would have probably let him run on towards goal with his pace if it didnt happen (id of probably pulled him over too lol)
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Chiellini just wanted to swap shirts. :laugh: (hes lucky thats not a red)
There was alot of tactical fouls going on from the Italians.


 
Well end of the day the Italians deserved to win. They had a much harder run to the final. They did what they are best at and played their style of football.

As for Southgate i like his demeanour. But i think he screwed up big time. Penalties should have been for his experienced players. Not bringing on a couple of youngsters and putting the pressure on them. I could understand having an experienced striker on bench and saying put you on for a penalty. Not a youngster with no experience in a situation like that.
 
What a shame it had to end on penalties. Italy deserved it though. England did goto sleep in second half though too! Southgate made some bad decisions this game which is a shame as well. As he has done very well in this tournament. Oh well. Congrats to Italy and at least us Brits managed to witness us in a final in our lifetime if your younger than 55 that is lol :)
 
Right a few observations. Marcus rashford what the actual fuck was that run up so so bad he missed before he even took it. Sancho has hardly kicked the ball the whole tournament. Then Saka who is still a baby he had the balls to take it but why no senior players a 18 year old taking the last one :( questions need to be asked of Southgates decisions tonight. Henderson would of scored a penalty and Sterling too.
 
dunover said:
Yep, it's a stinging way to lose, we had the first half, they the second, extra time pretty even and we finished with the 3 shittiest, tame & flaccid penalty kicks that have ever disgraced a major penalty shootout. So we deserved to lose. But that said, it was nice to experience a final for the first time in my life and they did well overall. Congrats Italy, the old Italian guile of fouling mixed with quick precise play helped them along and they held their nerve at the vital moment.
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Should of buried the second half. Pens are always horrible also think it’s shit house no seniors stood up. A 18 year old taking the last one should of been kane last.
 
kennygamerboy said:
Right a few observations. Marcus Rashford what the actual fuck was that run up so so bad he missed before he even took it. Sancho has hardly kicked the ball the whole tournament. Then Saka who is still a baby he had the balls to take it but why no senior players a 18 year old taking the last one :( questions need to be asked of Southgate's decisions tonight. Henderson would of scored a penalty and Sterling too.
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To be fair though, I think Gareth thought the youngsters would not feel as much pressure as the seniors would feel on taking penalty kicks. I am not defending Southgate's choices but he should have done subs much much sooner. And try to win the game in extra time rather than forcing it to goto penalties. I mean no amount of practise matters with penalties anyway.

At the end of the day, anything can happen in them and it does not matter how many times you practise them they always never go the way you want them to go, all you can do is hope they go your way and not the way of the other team. We still had huge advantage because we had it at home but obviously it was just not enough this time. Such a shame.

I am gutted but its over now. Let us hope we witness England in a final again before we all go 6 feet under or burnt to a crisp if that is what you choose to do. But I doubt we will but hey who knows.........
 
Congrats to italy, they did look the best team in the tournament but i think they were there for the taking in that 1st half, but we were casual with chances and good positions rather than going for the jugular. Gareth is decent as a safe pair of hands, roy hodgson prototype but if he were managing italy tonight and mancini us, then i think the result is different. Harsh i know as gareth is likeable and looks like he tries his best. But there's no shame in losing the way we did, they gave a good account of themselves, hard to ask for much more.
 
Italys keeper is only 22. (been a starting keeper for Milan since he was 16, so experienced is right)
That means he has another 40-50 years as a goalkeeeper ahead of him.

But i agree that letting Saka do his first ever pentaly in a situation like that was a bit weird.
 
The crucial penalty miss was Rashford's - scores, we are 3-2 up with 2 remaining, so a get out of jail card if we miss the next. Score the next, we have at least one shot to win it. Trying to be clever, he cannot even get it on target as he looks at the keeper and not the goal. That was the point when I knew it was all over, our chance had gone. And that was before I even realized that for some inexplicable reason Southgate has selected 2 kids to take the last ones...
 
DreamRJ said:
To be fair though, I think Gareth thought the youngsters would not feel as much pressure as the seniors would feel on taking penalty kicks. I am not defending Southgate's choices but he should have done subs much much sooner. And try to win the game in extra time rather than forcing it to goto penalties. I mean no amount of practise matters with penalties anyway.

At the end of the day, anything can happen in them and it does not matter how many times you practise them they always never go the way you want them to go, all you can do is hope they go your way and not the way of the other team. We still had huge advantage because we had it at home but obviously it was just not enough this time. Such a shame.

I am gutted but its over now. Let us hope we witness England in a final again before we all go 6 feet under or burnt to a crisp if that is what you choose to do. But I doubt we will but hey who knows.........
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To be honest I’m just glad I witnessed a final in my lifetime haha. I was devastated last night
 
dunover said:
The crucial penalty miss was Rashford's - scores, we are 3-2 up with 2 remaining, so a get out of jail card if we miss the next. Score the next, we have at least one shot to win it. Trying to be clever, he cannot even get it on target as he looks at the keeper and not the goal. That was the point when I knew it was all over, our chance had gone. And that was before I even realized that for some inexplicable reason Southgate has selected 2 kids to take the last ones...
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I am still scratching my head at his run up very embarrassed for him he went to bits and lost the plot he’s also missed a few for man United
 
'ah what is he doing!' were my words, it was a laughable attempt at trying to draw the keeper early, he was running out of room and time as the keeper didn't flinch and just waited. As lampard said to shearer they had a regular method of taking a pen, not trying to dance around and be clever. Walker has a great shot on him yet one of those taken off at the close, so i'm sure he'd have converted his, probably hendo too
 
Not a mission that was Rashford's practice penalty in the run up to the game: if it was, someone needed to have taken him to one side and told him not to try and be a smart arse.

Chance u balloon it if you put the foot through but at least if you do there's a good chance the keepers not keeping it out, even if they get it.

Should have run up the stairs and got Shearer to come down to take one
 
pinnit2014 said:
Not a mission that was Rashford's practice penalty in the run up to the game: if it was, someone needed to have taken him to one side and told him not to try and be a smart arse.

Chance u balloon it if you put the foot through but at least if you do there's a good chance the keepers not keeping it out, even if they get it.

Should have run up the stairs and got Shearer to come down to take one
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I love Alan! He's a sound guy. Probs would have come down and done it to. Haha
 
One silver lining - I won't have to endure that aural filth known as 'Football's Coming Home' by Badbreath and Skinflint all fucking summer. Like a Mariah Carey Christmas track it was shit when it came out and gets even shittier every time you endure it afterwards. So thank your lucky stars in the UK you've been spared that drivelling torture.
 
dunover said:
One silver lining - I won't have to endure that aural filth known as 'Football's Coming Home' by Badbreath and Skinflint all fucking summer. Like a Mariah Carey Christmas track it was shit when it came out and gets even shittier every time you endure it afterwards. So thank your lucky stars in the UK you've been spared that drivelling torture.
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its coming ROME!!!
 
kennygamerboy said:
Southgate again no faith and trust in grealish and would rather throw a kid on to take it to make a racial statement which backfired. !
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I think they would have had the 5 picked out long before the final, depending on who was on the pitch at the time of the penalties, and thats why they rushed to get Rashford and Sancho on at the end.
None of us know whats been going on at the training camp re penalty taking, but seeing the preparation that has gone on from Southgate for each game, changing formations and not afraid to change the team, I dont think it was a last minute thought to have the 5 that took the penalties being sent up there just on a whim.
As a Northern Ireland supporter, I can only dream of watching my team in a final, and I would say to any England fan on here that the whole team did you proud by getting to the final and having every chance of winning a trophy, they only just came up short and they give plenty of hope for the future.
 
Putting aside the pks, Lineker has summed it up well for me, but probably been better to have said it during the group stage so it might get heard by gareth, also kane is one of the best centre forwards in years but starved of service, and playing near the halfway line for most of the game, such a waste of his talent for goal scoring.

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