End of slots for online casinos in UK?

[coolrunnings19]

Following the announcement of the max stake being slashed to £2/5 a spin along with all the financial/affordability checks is this the end for online casinos and slots?

 

[dealer wins]

I point blank refuse any SOW.

I do 95% of my slotting at an offshore casino, never had a single issue getting paid and CS is 100x better than any UK based casino!

 

[Lemon]

Following the announcement of the max stake being slashed to £2/5 a spin along with all the financial/affordability checks is this the end for online casinos and slots?

No.

 

[DreddBeat]

I point blank refuse any SOW.

I do 95% of my slotting at an offshore casino, never had a single issue getting paid and CS is 100x better than any UK based casino!

What casino is this?

 

[justdoit]

I point blank refuse any SOW.

I do 95% of my slotting at an offshore casino, never had a single issue getting paid and CS is 100x better than any UK based casino!

99% of UK casinos they remove C/S, no more offers, if they do they offer you like free spins on £0.05/£0.10 with 40x -50x wagering

 

[KasinoKing]

Following the announcement of the max stake being slashed to £2/5 a spin along with all the financial/affordability checks is this the end for online casinos and slots?

No - it's not the end.
But it can't be too far away, that online casinos are totally banned in the UK.

The changes we have already seen in the last 5-ish years - SOW, "responsible gambling" harassment, no auto-play, reduced RTPs, overbearing regulatory demands on operators, etc. - has decimated the UK market, with LOADS of casinos just pulling out of our country.

When the fun stops, and the chances of winning something decent stops, players will stop.

KK

 

[snorky510238]

It was the start of the end for FOBT’s and it will be the same for UK facing Casinos.

They aren’t happy now with the profits they make so reduce rtp, run rtp below advertised, don’t give any bonus incentives, etc and that’s with what must be thousands of players losing a fortune, playing high stakes.

Those players won’t drop their stakes, they will just find somewhere else to play.

 

[jasonuk]

There's already been quite a bit of discussion about this at Uk Slotting Cap from September 2024 - Casinomeister Forum

At smaller stakes: I don't think a lot changes... it codifies the credit checks already being performed, and the overwhelming majority of play isn't impacted by the stake limits on slots.

At higher stakes: I expect there will be an exodus, because even if they are both willing and able to pass a source of wealth check, they will still be hard-capped. So if they want to bet bigger, they have no choice but to look elsewhere - either land-based (e.g. Vegas, because UK land-based is also £5 capped) or set sail to cryptoland.

As others have mentioned, the behaviour of the operators to "make up" the reduced profits - such as further reductions in RTPs - are much more likely to be the nail in the coffin.

 

[satchnz]

Following the announcement of the max stake being slashed to £2/5 a spin along with all the financial/affordability checks is this the end for online casinos and slots?

The stake limits don’t impact me one bit as I’m a 20p/20c spinner.

Although I’ve never been SOW’d, I will never hand over my financial info to any casino, full stop. I know my budget and what I can afford to gamble so I don’t need an unqualified customer service rep to determine this for me. Like others, most of my play is offshore now.

 

[justdoit]

There's already been quite a bit of discussion about this at Uk Slotting Cap from September 2024 - Casinomeister Forum

At smaller stakes: I don't think a lot changes... it codifies the credit checks already being performed, and the overwhelming majority of play isn't impacted by the stake limits on slots.

At higher stakes: I expect there will be an exodus, because even if they are both willing and able to pass a source of wealth check, they will still be hard-capped. So if they want to bet bigger, they have no choice but to look elsewhere - either land-based (e.g. Vegas, because UK land-based is also £5 capped) or set sail to cryptoland.

As others have mentioned, the behaviour of the operators to "make up" the reduced profits - such as further reductions in RTPs - are much more likely to be the nail in the coffin.

land based in London is only for UK residents £5 capped, many casinos on central london they have no limits for foreigner, but you need to show the passport you not British

 

[goatwack]

Gambling's always been a free-for-all for anyone willing to have a splurge, and 'tiered' based on the participants' financial clout. I shan't imagine too many good earners having spun 9p on Adventure Palace.

And yet we see a great 'levelling out' whereby slotting in particular becomes a sanitised sludge for the masses, the plebs and proletariat that are apparently too stupid to handle their own finances. After all, lowrollers make up the majority, won't feel these stake reductions, nor have the financial heft to bet higher, nor tell tell the UKGC to "do one".

I'd imagine many would even still struggle to comprehend Crypto, let alone Crypto casinos...

So these changes are brought about incrementally, to no real obvious detriment, whilst the higher rollers seek pastures new, all the while diminishing casinos' coffers in old Blighty!

I await the UKGC introducing 'Win Caps', as those proven to earn more than their stated income will find themselves subjected to even more scrutiny

 

[justdoit]

they made him drunk to spend more

 

[goatwack]

Next we'll be hearing how casinos don't have clocks or windows!

 

[satchnz]

Gambling's always been a free-for-all for anyone willing to have a splurge, and 'tiered' based on the participants' financial clout. I shan't imagine too many good earners having spun 9p on Adventure Palace.

And yet we see a great 'levelling out' whereby slotting in particular becomes a sanitised sludge for the masses, the plebs and proletariat that are apparently too stupid to handle their own finances. After all, lowrollers make up the majority, won't feel these stake reductions, nor have the financial heft to bet higher, nor tell tell the UKGC to "do one".

I'd imagine many would even still struggle to comprehend Crypto, let alone Crypto casinos...

So these changes are brought about incrementally, to no real obvious detriment, whilst the higher rollers seek pastures new, all the while diminishing casinos' coffers in old Blighty!

I await the UKGC introducing 'Win Caps', as those proven to earn more than their stated income will find themselves subjected to even more scrutiny

Or…some of us low rollers do have the income to bet substantially higher but don’t feel the urge to do so.

 

[goatwack]

Or…some of us low rollers do have the income to bet substantially higher but don’t feel the urge to do so.

That's likely not how the UKGC views things

 

[Guntis]

land based in London is only for UK residents £5 capped, many casinos on central london they have no limits for foreigner, but you need to show the passport you not British

In the mid of 2022 at Hippodrome i had a lucky streak on roulette just from 1k or so. Overall there were around 200k in deposits and 260k in cashouts. After that, i received their top-tier VIP card.

I'm not British but i'm a UK resident, and all stake limits for me are the same as for anyone else. £1-5 on slot machines, and for tables - it all depends on their min/max table limit. In some other casinos, especially those in Mayfair, you can get a personal table and they'll set the suitable stakes for you.

About slots at the Hippodrome - i'm 99.9% sure that even if that drunk Chinese man shows up, and says that he has no idea about what Britain is, let alone having a passport, and wants to play a slot machine at £100 per spin, the casino won't do anything.

The highest slot stakes i knew were in Metropolitan at £2-10, but again, these were the same for all players - no matter whether it is me, you, or that drunk Chinese man who owns a steel forging factory,

 

[justdoit]

In the mid of 2022 at Hippodrome i had a lucky streak on roulette just from 1k or so. Overall there were around 200k in deposits and 260k in cashouts. After that, i received their top-tier VIP card.

I'm not British but i'm a UK resident, and all stake limits for me are the same as for anyone else. £1-5 on slot machines, and for tables - it all depends on their min/max table limit. In some other casinos, especially those in Mayfair, you can get a personal table and they'll set the suitable stakes for you.

About slots at the Hippodrome - i'm 99.9% sure that even if that drunk Chinese man shows up, and says that he has no idea about what Britain is, let alone having a passport, and wants to play a slot machine at £100 per spin, the casino won't do anything.

The highest slot stakes i knew were in Metropolitan at £2-10, but again, these were the same for all players - no matter whether it is me, you, or that drunk Chinese man who owns a steel forging factory,

Hippodrome is like any other casino under UKGC rules with no special treats from GOV, I am talking casino you pay membership min £1000 a year, then VIP manager will come and check everything, they are many Private Rooms with slots table games etc on different bets, like Mayfair, Park Lane Bone street etc My friend has membership I when there 2-3 times , is just like going to Malta casino but smaller rooms with same novo slots fishin frenzy etc on high stake,All you need to do to enter this rooms you make deposit min of £5k show non UK passport Membership of casino and your are in ( membership holders can bring 2 guess but they need to show passport) , end of the night you can cashout if you have anything left, Summer times no guess can go in, they busy taking rich Arabs money..they do push you to join table games where the money is, you lose a lot or you win a lot

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[Guntis]

Hippodrome is like any other casino under UKGC rules with no special treats from GOV, I am talking casino you pay membership min £1000 a year, then VIP manager will come and check everything, they are many Private Rooms with slots table games etc on different bets, like Mayfair, Park Lane Bone street etc My friend has membership I when there 2-3 times , is just like going to Malta casino but smaller rooms with same novo slots fishin frenzy etc on high stake,All you need to do to enter this rooms you make deposit min of £5k show non UK passport Membership of casino and your are in ( membership holders can bring 2 guess but they need to show passport) , end of the night you can cashout if you have anything left, Summer times no guess can go in, they busy taking rich Arabs money..they do push you to join table games where the money is, you lose a lot or you win a lot

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Sounds interesting! I have never had the desire to play at these membership-based casinos, simply because i don't have that much spare cash. Usually, i play at Viktoria Casino on Edgware Road; it's way better than the Hippodrome. You have enough slot machines and table games there, and they transfer your winnings instantly to your bank card. The atmosphere is also quiet.

At the Hippodrome, if you want to leave the table for a bit and play a slot game, you'll rarely find any free after 4pm. They only have around 10 Novomatic and 10 IGT slots. The rest are plenty of roulette machines because people generally lose on them more and much quicker than on slots.

The only benefit for me to go there is that with my VIP card, i can have food and beer for the price of a regular pub. What else? Watch Magic Mike where bikini-clad men dance isn't my type of entertainment.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Hippodrome is like any other casino under UKGC rules with no special treats from GOV, I am talking casino you pay membership min £1000 a year, then VIP manager will come and check everything, they are many Private Rooms with slots table games etc on different bets, like Mayfair, Park Lane Bone street etc My friend has membership I when there 2-3 times , is just like going to Malta casino but smaller rooms with same novo slots fishin frenzy etc on high stake,All you need to do to enter this rooms you make deposit min of £5k show non UK passport Membership of casino and your are in ( membership holders can bring 2 guess but they need to show passport) , end of the night you can cashout if you have anything left, Summer times no guess can go in, they busy taking rich Arabs money..they do push you to join table games where the money is, you lose a lot or you win a lot

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Well there is no surprise at all.

 

[dunover]

Sounds interesting! I have never had the desire to play at these membership-based casinos, simply because i don't have that much spare cash. Usually, i play at Viktoria Casino on Edgware Road; it's way better than the Hippodrome. You have enough slot machines and table games there, and they transfer your winnings instantly to your bank card. The atmosphere is also quiet.

At the Hippodrome, if you want to leave the table for a bit and play a slot game, you'll rarely find any free after 4pm. They only have around 10 Novomatic and 10 IGT slots. The rest are plenty of roulette machines because people generally lose on them more and much quicker than on slots.

The only benefit for me to go there is that with my VIP card, i can have food and beer for the price of a regular pub. What else? Watch Magic Mike where bikini-clad men dance isn't my type of entertainment.

Go to the Empire Casino a little further up, where you can descend to the bottom room and play tight Novomatics and IGTs etc.

 

[justdoit]

Sounds interesting! I have never had the desire to play at these membership-based casinos, simply because i don't have that much spare cash. Usually, i play at Viktoria Casino on Edgware Road; it's way better than the Hippodrome. You have enough slot machines and table games there, and they transfer your winnings instantly to your bank card. The atmosphere is also quiet.

At the Hippodrome, if you want to leave the table for a bit and play a slot game, you'll rarely find any free after 4pm. They only have around 10 Novomatic and 10 IGT slots. The rest are plenty of roulette machines because people generally lose on them more and much quicker than on slots.

The only benefit for me to go there is that with my VIP card, i can have food and beer for the price of a regular pub. What else? Watch Magic Mike where bikini-clad men dance isn't my type of entertainment.

Hippodrome is not that good, I do go to Baker Street The Barracuda is small but only members, also I live there close, the Rich casino in Mayfair you need to spend min like £50k a year to get membership

 

[Guntis]

Go to the Empire Casino a little further up, where you can descend to the bottom room and play tight Novomatics and IGTs etc.

Hah.., i've been banned from there forever like 15 years ago; no idea what wrong I've done..., but it could be that i was too drunk and calling them bad words... But, yeah, nowadays i still go exactly where you're saying and let my GF spin a slot while i just sit next to her and have a pint. The casino's face-recognition cameras don't recognize me anymore, lol

 

[dunover]

Hah.., i've been banned from there forever like 15 years ago; no idea what wrong I've done..., but it could be that i was too drunk and calling them bad words... But, yeah, nowadays i still go exactly where you're saying and let my GF spin a slot while i just sit next to her and have a pint. The casino's face-recognition cameras don't recognize me anymore, lol

There's another casino between the Hippodrome and Empire, The Admiral? or something. Never been in it.

 

[Guntis]

There's another casino between the Hippodrome and Empire, The Admiral? or something. Never been in it.

Yes there is, it's now called Horizons, but before the lockdown it was Napoleons. It's a very small place, but it isn't bad. I would say they mainly welcome gamblers only. Their security once told me that they refuse entrance to those that they think are not coming to play.

 

[Lemon]

The one down a big long flight of stairs? I went in there a few years back, nice little place.