Dunder Casino - Not in anyway tested

[Deeplay]

Yes you are correct! I remember now. Similar sort of site to Casumo.

But not casumo as casumo confirmed to me

on the redbet thing I notice their RG are a mess. They used to have set a deposit limit - but now they changed the name to casino limits
its crap really is. And im sure with intent. No wording at all says set DL ... i did find out how to do it and it will stay at £2 until they change the system
back so its easy to do. Hate this kind of thing and not becoming of any accredited casino!

 

[spintee]

Couple of bits I have picked up from some affiliate sites, Now it has got to have links with casumo, I have been told by top casumo affiliates that they are linked, The last ones interesting, Translated underneath

1. With links to Casumo, an ambitious team behind the scenes, huge welcome bonuses planned and pretty much every NetEnt game ever made on the site

2. This casino is created for you by the same people of Casumo casino. No wonder it is an awesome casino!

. Dunder Casino has the same down to earth approach as Casumo Casino

3. Personerna som ligger bakom Casumo är samma manskap som nu ger dig Dunder. Det är inte helt självklart att man gör den kopplingen vid första anblick, men ju djupare in du går, desto tydligare ser du hur kreativiteten sprudlar även hos Dunder - precis som hos Casumo.

The people behind Casumo are the same men who now gives you Dunder. It is not entirely obvious that it makes the connection at first glance, but the deeper you go, the more clearly you see how the creativity bursting even at Dunder - just like in Casumo.

 

[Deeplay]

Couple of bits I have picked up from some affiliate sites, Now it has got to have links with casumo, I have been told by top casumo affiliates that they are linked, The last ones interesting, Translated underneath

1. With links to Casumo, an ambitious team behind the scenes, huge welcome bonuses planned and pretty much every NetEnt game ever made on the site

2. This casino is created for you by the same people of Casumo casino. No wonder it is an awesome casino!

. Dunder Casino has the same down to earth approach as Casumo Casino

3. Personerna som ligger bakom Casumo är samma manskap som nu ger dig Dunder. Det är inte helt självklart att man gör den kopplingen vid första anblick, men ju djupare in du går, desto tydligare ser du hur kreativiteten sprudlar även hos Dunder - precis som hos Casumo.

The people behind Casumo are the same men who now gives you Dunder. It is not entirely obvious that it makes the connection at first glance, but the deeper you go, the more clearly you see how the creativity bursting even at Dunder - just like in Casumo.

Well either the affiliate is speaking from his bollocks or what Casumo told me today is BS which is they have absolutely no connection to dunder ... will wait to see if Casumo comment on this.

 

[spintee]

Well either the affiliate is speaking from his bollocks or what Casumo told me today is BS which is they have absolutely no connection to dunder ... will wait to see if Casumo comment on this.

Them 3 statements wee from 3 separate sites, In all fairness I could not give a bollocks who there running from

But somebody is telling porkies, The affiliates must of got the info from somewhere,

But as you say hopefully some one will pop along and give us an explanation to whats the truth here

 

[Deeplay]

Them 3 statements wee from 3 separate sites, In all fairness I could not give a bollocks who there running from

But somebody is telling porkies, The affiliates must of got the info from somewhere,

But as you say hopefully some one will pop along and give us an explanation to whats the truth here

Me either really but for now will go with what Casumo told me over an affiliate ....

but Mt Secure Trade has nowt to do with Casumo ... who knows the curious tale continues

 

[Pulver]

Casumo has invested money into Dunder, but they are not part of the operation of the site.

Mt Securetrade means that they are using the Igaming Cloud platform (similiar thing to Everymatrix) run by Gaming Innovation Group.

Gaming Innovation Group runs Rizk, Betspin and Guts, and they also run and own the Igaming Cloud Platform (Mt Securetrade license).

 

[rainmaker]

....perhaps the rep if we get one can do his first favour by shutting down their affy account with these twats:

"Rock On Offers" <promo@rockonoffers.com>

xxxxxxxxhttp://api.rockonoffers.com/3_0/click/?data=c2VuZG91dElkfHx8fDEwMTEvLy8vbmV3c2xldHRlcklkfHx8fDM5Mi8vLy9yZWNpcGllbnRJZHx8fHw0OTc4NjQzOC8vLy91fHx8fGE5YjI2NTQ3NDk2OTVmNWE4ZDU5NDA0NzliZmUzZjRjLy8vL2NsaWNrSWR8fHx8MC8vLy9ydXJsfHx8fGh0dHA6Ly9tZWRpYS5kdW5kZXJhZmZpbGlhdGVzLmNvbS9yZWRpcmVjdC5hc3B4P3BpZD0yNjUxJmJpZD0xNDkw

Yeah it seems like many people are getting spam promoting Dunder Casino these days.

I have already received several spam e-mails to different accounts (both personal and business).

 

[dunover]

DUNDER BULLSHIT TERMS:

29.3 Deposit Limits – In order to assist our players in gambling responsibly, we have a Deposit Limit within each customer account. This option can be accessed within your account. Limits can be amended at anytime. A decrease in the deposit limit will take effect immediately, but an increase can only occur after a cooling-off period, in order to avoid rash decisions. If you require any further information or assistance regarding our functionality, please contact Support.

There is NO self-set deposit limit. The RG page is vague, loads of waffle and indirect action via e-mail. If any of you can see a self-set DL anywhere let me know. I like the term 'rash decisions' - the only rash decision they are afraid of is you setting a limit or closing/cooling-off your account in haste.......

I don't trust this lot one little bit.

 

[Blathaon]

Also NO self-set RG facilities -it says 'e-mail us and we'll do it'.. I thought this was old hat now with a UKGC license. I know of NO UKGC licensed site now that does not have IMMEDIATE self-set limits. Also I don't see a deposit limit offered anyway, just a time limit or loss-limit. (This is from their RG section) BUT:
EDIT...Their General terms state that UK players CAN set an instant DL in their account details. Still don't like the fact you need to e-mail for other RG services.

I hope this isn't a mirror of the dishonest Redbet system whereby they mis-describe a loss-limit as a deposit limit. The Redbet nonsense as we know is a bogus deposit limit which doesn't apply if you win. So you set a DL of 50 a week. Win 100 with your 50 deposit and then you'll find your deposit limit is MINUS 100!!! so you can proceed to deposit another 150. This system is designed to stop a winning player walking off for a week with their profits, and allows them to lose them back until they end up down the amount of the deposit limit they originally set.


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The WR is definitely NOT 25xB as Nicola stated in her OP:

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BUT like at bet-at you can w/d if you win with your cash balance and forfeit the bonus. One good thing.

BEWARE!
10.14 The use of bonus funds to win more than twice of bonus received on table games and video poker before changing back to slot machines with the purpose of completing wagering requirements can result in your winnings being confiscated and account being closed.

SO do not over-double your measly max 50 SUB on table games then play slots!! What bollox.

This casino looks like a shitty version of Casumo. I do play at Casumo as i get regular 80% bonuses, but due to the 25xD+B WR i mostly play DOA, it's pretty much worthless for anything else. Also they are one of the few casinos that offer Novomatic slots.

But i won't be playing at Dunder casino.

BUT like at bet-at you can w/d if you win with your cash balance and forfeit the bonus. One good thing.

Careful here, if this works as it does at Casumo then NO it is not that simple, YES you can withdraw... BUT every bet you place when playing with a bonus ties in some of you real money, so it is almost never worth it to forfeit a bonus as you lose the majority of your balance.

How does the bonus turnover work at Casumo?
If you have bonus money in your account, they will play proportionately to your real money. If you have €10 in bonus cash and €10 in real money and bet €2, €1 will be bonus money and €1 real money. Winnings are distributed proportionately in the same way. If you get several bonuses at the same time the bonus money and the wagering requirements are bundled.

This is not the same system as Betat uses.

 

[BrianGhattas]

I'll play at Dunder when they offer better bonuses as incentive. 50% bonus with a low match value and free spins in Starburst aren't going to cut it. Looks promising, though.

 

[spintee]

I'll play at Dunder when they offer better bonuses as incentive. 50% bonus with a low match value and free spins in Starburst aren't going to cut it. Looks promising, though.

Not forgetting the wager is deposit & Bonus, But as someone pointed out maybe you can withdraw part of cash if it runs like casumo bonus

 

[Jono777]

Proves nothing but the bonus / WR structure is identical to Casumo

Theirs is 25x D+B and a portion can be withdrawn at any time.

The portion available for withdrawal is dependent upon the percentage match taken at time of deposit.

 

[spoton]

I deposited 240 NOK yesterday and took the bonus. Was pretty fast up in 2400 before it went a bit downhill, so I decided to withdraw at 1700. Had to cancel my bonus as I only made around 15% of the WR, so I was left with a little bit over 1200 NOK. Made the withdrawal around 22, got the money in my Ecopayz account at 10 today .

I also asked their CS-rep about their affiliation with other known casinos, and he said they were a independent company that used the GIG licence/backend, and that the only indirect affiliation with Casumo was that they had some common investors.

 

[dunover]

I complained about the BS terms re. RG:
(It says in their terms can be self-set wen no such facility exists)

Hi Dunover,

Hope you are well. Thank you for getting in touch with us regarding our responsible gambling facility.

This was reported to us yesterday and I have alerted our tech team to get that sorted as quick as possible. This should be up and running by Monday again and meanwhile
I will make sure to change the text to that the limits can be set by contacting customer service (for now and then change it back tomorrow).

Can I help you with setting any limits on your account?

Thank you for bringing this up, I sincerely apologise for the inconvenience.

Kind regards,
Jihad

Jihad?? Holy War! Is this a piss-take?

 

[spintee]

I complained about the BS terms re. RG:
(It says in their terms can be self-set wen no such facility exists)

Hi Dunover,

Hope you are well. Thank you for getting in touch with us regarding our responsible gambling facility.

This was reported to us yesterday and I have alerted our tech team to get that sorted as quick as possible. This should be up and running by Monday again and meanwhile
I will make sure to change the text to that the limits can be set by contacting customer service (for now and then change it back tomorrow).

Can I help you with setting any limits on your account?

Thank you for bringing this up, I sincerely apologise for the inconvenience.

Kind regards,
Jihad

Jihad?? Holy War! Is this a piss-take?

Thats what I thought as he is always on live chat

 

[Deeplay]

I deposited 240 NOK yesterday and took the bonus. Was pretty fast up in 2400 before it went a bit downhill, so I decided to withdraw at 1700. Had to cancel my bonus as I only made around 15% of the WR, so I was left with a little bit over 1200 NOK. Made the withdrawal around 22, got the money in my Ecopayz account at 10 today .

I also asked their CS-rep about their affiliation with other known casinos, and he said they were a independent company that used the GIG licence/backend, and that the only indirect affiliation with Casumo was that they had some common investors.

I want transaparency with whom I deposit MY hard earned money with. The casumo rep I spoke to told me this casino has nothing in any way shape of form to do with them
Bullshit all round.

Suffice to say I wont deposit at this new (seemingly so far clip joint)

and as for casumo ....well Casumo casino rep is this linked to your casino or not ?


clear question which I hope the casumo rep will answer as asap.

 

[Deeplay]

Sent a PM to the Casumo rep so think will wait to see what they have to say.

If they are not part of Dunder then the Casumo Customer support needs to get facts right as they told me
clearly dunder has eff all to do with them. (They did not use the phrase Eff all ) just for the record but you get my meaning

 

[dunover]

I want transaparency with whom I deposit MY hard earned money with. The casumo rep I spoke to told me this casino has nothing in any way shape of form to do with them
Bullshit all round.

Suffice to say I wont deposit at this new (seemingly so far clip joint)

and as for casumo ....well Casumo casino rep is this linked to your casino or not ?


clear question which I hope the casumo rep will answer as asap.

Our mate 'War against the infidel' (really?) is applying to be the (Bl)under rep apparently so will shortly be here to answer this thread.

 

[Deeplay]

Our mate 'War against the infidel' (really?) is applying to be the (Bl)under rep apparently so will shortly be here to answer this thread.

Yes Jihad did PM me but told him get rep status first before I give any info out.

Looking forward to Jihad confirming that they are or are they not joined with Casumo casino.

Seems like one sorry ass casino launch for sure. Glad actually could not sign up because the SMS system is a total failure at the moment.
But lets see how this goes

Until then I personally will avoid this place.

 

[Tirilej]

Yes Jihad did PM me but told him get rep status first before I give any info out.

Looking forward to Jihad confirming that they are or are they not joined with Casumo casino.

Seems like one sorry ass casino launch for sure. Glad actually could not sign up because the SMS system is a total failure at the moment.
But lets see how this goes

Until then my advise avoid this place.

Slow down please.

Then tell me how many casinos you play at where you know the owners

When it comes to this casino we should be concerned with if they have a license, and where. Also other things of course.
I would love to know what kind of people who owns the places I play at. Some I do know but mostly not. I can live with that if I trust them anyway.

If those who owns Casumo just are funding this place but have other people who runs it maybe it's because they want to have it that way. They will just take the money they earn just like every other owner.

 

[Deeplay]

Slow down please.

Then tell me how many casinos you play at where you know the owners

When it comes to this casino we should be concerned with if they have a license, and where. Also other things of course.
I would love to know what kind of people who owns the places I play at. Some I do know but mostly not. I can live with that if I trust them anyway.

If those who owns Casumo just are funding this place but have other people who runs it maybe it's because they want to have it that way. They will just take the money they earn just like every other owner.

Correct I dont know the owners on any personal level. But I do want to know where my money is being deposited.
Its very much a personal choice. And in wanting to know I mean the company behind the eye candy. Transparency in my book is everything

and as far as the UKGC I would also "presume" transparency is also high on the agenda.

Im not saying anything is untwoard with this new casino but I am saying I was told directly from Casumo that they (Casumo) have absolutely nothing to do with Dunder.

So yes If I am being told one thing and then another I want to find out what is the truth before I deposit my money.

As for what others do - naturally it is up to them. Personal choice

Im gonna back out of this thread for now as Im sure Casumo will comment on this (I did PM them ) to put the record straight.

 

[Jono777]

From the chat on Casino Twitcher's stream just now (who plays VERY regular at Casumo and is also an affiliate)

Posted by CT himself, not general chit chat


Try DUNDER Casino (Casumo's newly funded Casino) - ****** - Bonus on the 3 first deposits and 200 free spins for new depositors.

 

[Tirilej]

No matter who it is that are funding this casino they are using MT Securetrades license. They are not allowed to set up what rules they want or to run their casino in a way that is not ok with them. They can't risk their license!
It's the same as other platforms where casinos are using their services and license.

This means that if this casino goes down I believe it's them who are paying the costs, and probably also will take their customers and put them in to some other casino. Ok, I shouldn't make this more complicated since I really know nothing, but that is how it works at Every Matrix for example.

If I'm wrong I hope someone with real knowledge correct me.

 

[Jono777]

I was merely trying to help narrow down the list of questions relating to this particular casino

At least we now know the 'Is it funded by Casumo' part!

Agreed lots more questions to be answered before we can start to relax!

 

[Deeplay]

I was merely trying to help narrow down the list of questions relating to this particular casino

At least we now know the 'Is it funded by Casumo' part!

Agreed lots more questions to be answered before we can start to relax!

Hi no it is not it seems

just got a pm from the casumo rep here and I quote :


"Hello Deeplay,

Thank you for bringing this up to our attention.

Dunder is another company and is not run by Casumo or any people in Casumo.

Regards
Andreas
Casumo "

Im sure they will publicly quote on this soon to clear it up