New Slot Announcement Donuts by Big Time Gaming

Not sure about this one yet.. Played it in 3 batches last night.. each time playing somewhere between 200-300 spins at .05 (lowest bet) just to give it a prolonged (hopefully!) go.

Over the whole evening I had 2 bonus/free spins rounds, first gave a 14x multiplier and second gave i think it was 4x multiplier.. both gave less than 15x win. Biggest win I had was in base game I twice got purple donuts across the screen giving 60x bet wins. Had a few 20x bet wins, but was mostly < .05 wins.

Will give it more of a go eventually, but not so sure so far!
 
I must have missed the memo, but what is it with these multipliers? 75x??

You 'd think this makes for an exciting game, but something somewhere went quite obviously wrong :eek2:

Though I commend the low stake size and feature buy removal. Yes that's right, I'm thankful I don't need a Payday loan to play their games :eek:
 
What about you go and fuckyourselves btg... i even managed to get one feature after 500 spins.. 19x multipler and whooping 17x stake win
 

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Strangely enough not one of their slots was paying today so someone is raking it in and I don't think it is us players :cool:
 
I know the maths probably complicates things and I don’t know what the reel strips look like. However from what I can make of most of btg’s games the scatters aren’t fixed they just seem to appear wherever they like when summoned. My point being on bonanza you have to get 4 scatters out of 6 reels (that potentially can be a lot deeper than 4x4). Donuts is asking you to hit 3 out 4 reels which again just on the face of it makes it a lot harder to trigger. I have low rolled a few spins but it didn’t light my fire. The amount of 2 scatter teases ( especially at the start of a session to give false hope) will be to much for me as it’s my pet hate. Coupled with fact that you could be facing a potentially huge win only to find when the box opens the idiot who took your order put the wrong ones inside.
 
Really does not matter whether you need 3 or 4 scatters for the feature,dont think it has any relation to the number of reels.
On Bonanza the golds are inserted after the reel symbols have been selected from fixed reels strips, this must be the case
as you will never see a single O,L or D unless the previous letters are shown,also it never shows a +4 symbol without GOLD
being shown.Think on Donuts it does the same with an RNG selecting whether to award the bonus.The single and double
scatters are just for show.
May be wrong but thats how I would do it.
 
With most slot providers the free spins are set to drop in on an average amount of spins, of course with the variation taken into account it can take sometimes longer or shorter.
There are 2 providers where I never ever have a clue when the free spins will drop as their slots can go 100's and sometimes even a couple of 1000 of spins without a feature.

These are Novomatic (Which most games I like) and BTG.
I once have done 2.5k spins on Bonanza without hitting a feature.
That is just plain sick.
Oh and when it hit I got a lousy 30x ish stake back.
My RTP on this slot is beyond dramatic.

That said I do play BTG because of the huge win potential and that is most likely why you get so much huge dry spells on them.
I had some really good wins on DHV and a huge win on White Rabbit, so it defo is possible.
But it is oh so damn hard. :)
Do I still play Bonanza? Yes I do..Because one day I hope to hit that mega win on it. :D
Just not chasing the free spins anymore,I do 100 spins every session and if it hits it hits, if not I move on :)
 
I know the maths probably complicates things and I don’t know what the reel strips look like. However from what I can make of most of btg’s games the scatters aren’t fixed they just seem to appear wherever they like when summoned. My point being on bonanza you have to get 4 scatters out of 6 reels (that potentially can be a lot deeper than 4x4). Donuts is asking you to hit 3 out 4 reels which again just on the face of it makes it a lot harder to trigger. I have low rolled a few spins but it didn’t light my fire. The amount of 2 scatter teases ( especially at the start of a session to give false hope) will be to much for me as it’s my pet hate. Coupled with fact that you could be facing a potentially huge win only to find when the box opens the idiot who took your order put the wrong ones inside.

Well all slot math is a closely guarded secret except the odd leak over the years, I still kick myself to this day for losing a leaked par sheet of IR from years and years ago!, so we will not likely to ever know, but for all we know donuts and bonanza could have the exact same feature trigger average the amount of reels or positions dont really come into it, so to say donuts is a lot harder to trigger on the face of it is probably the same as when a slot designer wants you to think a feature is easier to trigger lol. There is a zillion ways to math out a slot, fixed reel strips to random overlays etc Its all clever stuff innit :) I do agree with your comment about the early teases for a feature on a session tho, that seems to happen on a lot of slots, more than the normal hit rate, but its all random of course so must be in our heads....
 
Well all slot math is a closely guarded secret except the odd leak over the years, I still kick myself to this day for losing a leaked par sheet of IR from years and years ago!, so we will not likely to ever know, but for all we know donuts and bonanza could have the exact same feature trigger average the amount of reels or positions dont really come into it, so to say donuts is a lot harder to trigger on the face of it is probably the same as when a slot designer wants you to think a feature is easier to trigger lol. There is a zillion ways to math out a slot, fixed reel strips to random overlays etc Its all clever stuff innit :) I do agree with your comment about the early teases for a feature on a session tho, that seems to happen on a lot of slots, more than the normal hit rate, but its all random of course so must be in our heads....
Yeah What you say makes sense. I just have to analyse and scrutinise everything it’s in my nature. On those lines the way I understand it each respective symbol on a reel is allocated a number. The rng then selects numbers for each reel and you see the respective outcome. Is that correct? If not can you try and explain it to me in a simple to understand format. Thanks.
 
Yeah What you say makes sense. I just have to analyse and scrutinise everything it’s in my nature. On those lines the way I understand it each respective symbol on a reel is allocated a number. The rng then selects numbers for each reel and you see the respective outcome. Is that correct? If not can you try and explain it to me in a simple to understand format. Thanks.

I cant say all do it like that there is more than one way to pull a result from a RNG and use it but yeah, thats one way and the more traditional 5 reels slots almost certainly did it that way. But slots are more complex these days as is the math, so as I think trace monkey has said before too slot designers have to get creative sometimes to get the math to fit the game they have in mind.

In contrast some older UK B3 games used to have whole set 5 reel spins eg all 5 together to make the win that was chosen by the RNG etc. Like i said there is so many ways to do it only the developer knows how they are doing it, but it all boils down to random numbers being the end result that you see.

If you collect enough of the right data of a slot you can soon build up a profile of how the RTP is split, eg base, feature etc

If you collect it the right way you can get it without having to log too much esp if your not stake changing. PM me if you want some tips of what to log as most slot players dont collect one of the most important bits.
 
Really does not matter whether you need 3 or 4 scatters for the feature,dont think it has any relation to the number of reels.
On Bonanza the golds are inserted after the reel symbols have been selected from fixed reels strips, this must be the case
as you will never see a single O,L or D unless the previous letters are shown,also it never shows a +4 symbol without GOLD
being shown.Think on Donuts it does the same with an RNG selecting whether to award the bonus.The single and double
scatters are just for show.
May be wrong but thats how I would do it.

The reel strips for Bonanza were posted somewhere in the middle of the huge thread, the scatters are there just fine. As far as the server is concerned there are just scatters and if 4+ land you get free spins, the GOLD letters are just added by the client when showing the result and of course it will show them in the correct order. What's not clear is how the dropdown symbols work, pretty sure noone has ever gotten 2 scatters on the same reel on the first spin cause that isn't anywhere on the reels, but it can quite often drop a scatter on top of a scatter.
 
The reel strips for Bonanza were posted somewhere in the middle of the huge thread, the scatters are there just fine. As far as the server is concerned there are just scatters and if 4+ land you get free spins, the GOLD letters are just added by the client when showing the result and of course it will show them in the correct order. What's not clear is how the dropdown symbols work, pretty sure noone has ever gotten 2 scatters on the same reel on the first spin cause that isn't anywhere on the reels, but it can quite often drop a scatter on top of a scatter.

I once had GOL on top of each other on the second reel (after cascade).

Still didn't get the feature.
 
The reel strips for Bonanza were posted somewhere in the middle of the huge thread, the scatters are there just fine. As far as the server is concerned there are just scatters and if 4+ land you get free spins, the GOLD letters are just added by the client when showing the result and of course it will show them in the correct order. What's not clear is how the dropdown symbols work, pretty sure noone has ever gotten 2 scatters on the same reel on the first spin cause that isn't anywhere on the reels, but it can quite often drop a scatter on top of a scatter.
Yes the scatter on top of scatter and you never see +5 until Gold has appeared was the angle I am coming from. Thinking how are the scatters catered for by the respective rng. I suppose if there are several ways of programming I will just have to keep guessing:thumbsup:.
 
The retrigger in the bonus round is very good, just 2 donuts required and you get another chance on the multiplier screen and 12 more free spins in the bonus. White rabbit occasionally retriggers but you can get between 1-12 extra spins, bonanza only gives you another 5 etc...
 

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