Do you gamble for?:

[BigJock]

And please explain why you chose your answer.

 

[LaurieJim]

entertainment first and if i win, hey thats extra money comming my way..........laurie

 

[KasinoKing]

Well I think 'for income' means it's something you depend on for day-to-day living, so I voted 'Pocket Change'. But I guess that depends on how big your pockets are because my average monthly profit for the last 24 months is $657/month.

If it had been multi-choice I would have had to vote "I'm addicted" as well...

 

[anniemac]

Can't say that I play for income. When I lose (mostly), it's not entertainment. So I'm going to say 'Addictive'. If I wasn't addicted, I would certainly not keep pounding sand down the rathole and losing my money.

 

[chuchu59]

It became addictive for me more than 35 years ago. Need I say more?

 

[Jasminebed]

Most of the above

Bored & something to do, addicted, but less physically harmful than some I've had in the past. Extreme optimism might have been a choice for me. But I pretty much expect to lose, and I expect to be entertained for my $$.

Smarter play might make me lose less. But I will lose and am prepared to accept that. The occasional big win is a big plus, & usually I acquire something material with it, & just sink part back into play.

I could have nicer furniture (but my new mattress is a dream), and more slipcovers, & more meals out (except for the part where leaving my house is hard). Coordinated glasses & fine crystal. The odd Amarone instead of a Merlot or Pinot Noir.

Live with the decisions you make, take pleasure in them, or make different decisions. You asked us to expand Jock.

Have you seen what's on the tube tonight? Sucks more than gambling.

 

[bmitchellmk]

Why I gamble

I gamble because I enjoy it, and when I do gamble it is to try to win extra money. Although, most of the time I lose.

 

[pacers31]

KK, does that monthly figure include earnings as an affiliate? Just curious. If that is from straight gambling, you are either the luckiest guy around or I need to know your secret!

 

[chuchu59]

KK, does that monthly figure include earnings as an affiliate? Just curious. If that is from straight gambling, you are either the luckiest guy around or I need to know your secret!

If I had to guess it would be patience, patience and patience. He takes out bonuses he believes will leave him in the black when WRs are finished and he focusses himself in normally grinding the WRs out. He isnt frustrated by occasional losses as these are balanced by his other wins. Furthermore, he simply moves on when some slots he is playing doesnt pay well or wont give a feature in a couple of hundred spins. That's what I think of KK. Ah yes, one more thing, he doesnt chase a single big win just for gloating and concentrates on stringing smaller wins regularly.

 

[Jasminebed]

If I had to guess it would be patience, patience and patience. .

Oh, and discipline, discipline discipline.

Both of which I lack.

But not so badly it hurts my life.

Not how I make my "pocket change" but how I spend it.

 

[Fleur-De-Lis]

I am addict I guess. At times I play because I have to, not because I want to

Though it all started quite innocently, for distraction and/or entertainment, to take my mind off other addiction. He-he

 

[Matthew23]

Well I think 'for income' means it's something you depend on for day-to-day living, so I voted 'Pocket Change'. But I guess that depends on how big your pockets are because my average monthly profit for the last 24 months is $657/month.

Even if you had no link in your signature, I still wouldn't believe that.

If a first time poster made the same post as yours, they would be banned. The only difference is you gained peoples respect first.

First of all, I am a committed low-roller and normally start playing all games at the minimum, or the next level up.

Secondly, in the long run you can not win from casinos. Why? Because of a little thing called 'The House Edge'. All casino games are mathematically engineered to ensure that no matter what you do, over an infinite number of goes they WILL take a precise % (averaged across all goes) of your money.

There is no possible way to beat the casinos mathematical advantage on any given game in the long run (if there was any way, do you think the casinos would still be making the game available to play?).

This part is ture. However, you say you make this money from claiming bonuses. Due to the wagering requirements, all a bonus will do is extend your game time at the casino. They are not profitable! Ask any casino manager!!!

It just seems that every post you make contains some reference to how you constantly make money from gambling........ trying to drive people to your website to see your hidden secret. Your site has no secret, just a bunch of affiliate links.

If you really do make money from gambling and want people to believe you, post some facts and figures..... maths doesn't lie! but people can.

 

[classymom]

I play for entertainment - I have become a very low roller. Which is a really big thing for me - I use to live in Las Vegas and back way before kids it would be nothing for me to play with huge stakes. it was still entertainment then, win or lose I loved to play.

 

[KasinoKing]

If I had to guess...

Totally spot on. I don't need to add any more.

Even if you had no link in your signature, I still wouldn't believe that.

If a first time poster made the same post as yours, they would be banned. The only difference is you gained peoples respect first.

This part is true. However, you say you make this money from claiming bonuses. Due to the wagering requirements, all a bonus will do is extend your game time at the casino. They are not profitable! Ask any casino manager!!!

It just seems that every post you make contains some reference to how you constantly make money from gambling........ trying to drive people to your website to see your hidden secret. Your site has no secret, just a bunch of affiliate links.

If you really do make money from gambling and want people to believe you, post some facts and figures..... maths doesn't lie! but people can.

As per our earlier conversation Matthew, I totally understand your reaction.
If you look back, I joined CasinoMeister in August 2004 and became a regular poster. But I didn't become an affiliate until March 2006 when I launched my website with the main purpose of trying to help other people profit from online casinos like I do. I put a lot of time & effort into it, but knew no-one was going to pay me just for looking at the site, so added the affy links to hopefully get some renumeration for my efforts. At that time I had had 5 consecutive winning years - would you have believed me then?
Like I said before, I can hardly believe it myself. When I set out on this journey my mission was only to play casinos without losing and I never imagined I would be so successful.

As for facts & figures - yes I can provide them all. I have a summary report and logs of all my play for every month at every casino from May 2001 to now (except a handful I accidentally deleted ). The summary of every single month is on my

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page - just pick any casino from any month & I'll provide the logs. Pick as many as you like.

Don't forget I am not saying I win at every casino every month and without my incredible run at Ladbrokes so far this year I would have probably had several losing months.
e.g. In April I had ludicrous luck with the Lads scratchcards and ended the month making 1,457 from them. Also won at Sloto, but lost badly everywhere else. Gain for the month $2,416. That's incredible for a low roller and equates to x5 the amount of my worst losing month.
In March Ladbrokes was the ONLY casino I won at, and I lost at the 4 others I played.

Here's a couple of my summaries (sorry about the rude word! ):-
Lads April summary;
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Fantasy December summary (stupid start (well it was Christmas!), lucky recovery, stupid end (impatience!));
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What my logs look like (except Crypto):-

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.
(A bit of high-rolling near the start, but low-rolling once ahead).

Chuchu summed it all up perfectly; I low-roll & when I do get a lucky big win I keep it, rather than fritter it away. I try to keep in mind my target is always not to win, but just to not lose. (Though recently I have been getting a bit lax, I have to admit).

I can't make people believe me, and I guess I just have to learn to live with that, though even for me the implication that I am lying does hurt a bit, wherever it's coming from.

 

[babs7262]

I put other because I couldnt choose 2. Fiirst and foremost, entertainment purposes BUT....its with the hope of pocket change to suppliment my income so I can gamble more. Does that make sense? I low roll but would like to roll higher so I gamble in hopes of winning more so I can gamble bigger in hopes of winning a nice JP some day. I know myself very well and I think If I won a JP, I would lose some interest and take a break because the thrill of the chase would be over


Can I just say something too? Thanks LOL......This OP was just asking for a pole and explanation, I dont think it was intended to "call people out" on their answers. Would it be possible to stick with the answer and not disrespect the OP's pole. You can always PM if you think someone isnt telling the truth

 

[Roar]

However, you say you make this money from claiming bonuses. Due to the wagering requirements, all a bonus will do is extend your game time at the casino. They are not profitable! Ask any casino manager!!!

You're either real smart or real dumb. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Come on Mathew23. Should I laugh or cry?

BTW the "addictive" result is surprising to me. If you are not making a regular buck out of this game I can think of heaps of better things the world (your family) needs you to do.

 

[bb28]

Roar........What is it with you??
Do you think it is your mission in life to come here and berate people who you assume have a gambling problem.
I think the word troll........sums it up very well!

On another note concerning this thread. I do believe KK, don't doubt it for one minute.....and I for one will easily admit that if I had KK's self discipline, I'd have myself a quite tidy little profit for the year.

You're either real smart or real dumb. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Come on Mathew23. Should I laugh or cry?

BTW the "addictive" result is surprising to me. If you are not making a regular buck out of this game I can think of heaps of better things the world (your family) needs you to do.

 

[shadow123]

In defence of KK as if he needed any, He is reaping the rewards of a lot of hard work and discipline.I for one appreciate the amount of work that has gone onto his website and he has outlined the methods he uses in detail
for anyone else to use without asking any reward.
He is a jammy bstard with the scratchcards though

 

[The Dude]

KK - you da man!

He's one of the most responsive and responsible webmasters out there. He's a serious player - and a smart one at that - which makes him an excellent resource when it comes to gaming and bonusing questions.

Onward with the thread...

Great questions - thanks BigJock!

Like someone mentioned, the questionnaire could have been a bit more insightful with a multiple choice option since many of us gamble or play online for a variety of reasons. It reminds me a bit of a presentation at the Pacific Asian Conference last year in Macao, where a survey was discussed:

...He had also surveyed players in Japan, Taiwan, and Korea on their gaming habits. One interesting point is that 45% of the Taiwan players sampled agreed with the statement "I play so I can dream about what I could do if I won big" compared to 10% of the Japanese and 13% of the Korean players. Just to show you that there are significant differences in player activity...
https://www.casinomeister.com/static/newsletter/2007/12march2007.html

Interesting stuff. Personally, I play strictly for entertainment purposes. I even play often for fun at

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- muti-strike poker is the shit

 

[SlotsWizard]

I even play often for fun at

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- muti-strike poker is the shit

Another good site for free play is videopoker.com, which has lots of LED and IGT games. Here's a screenshot of a dealt Royal Flush I got on 100-Hand Double Bonus Deuces Wild a few weeks ago on the first hand of the session:

 

[Matthew23]

KK, I sent you a private message

Roar, it's the casino that's laughing at you, mate...

 

[james01]

I'm a generally bored person. I play hours of solitaire, spider solitaire, freecell. Pai Gow and Blackjack make a nice change for me, but I mostly like to try out different theories, so I spend very little time playing cash games. I mostly just watch how much I lose with each attempt.

 

[1819]

i love to play. casinos are my sanity. i have alot going on day to day so to take breaks and "spin" is a nice getaway. clears the mind. i do not play to make money. that would be work. i do cashout if i make a certain amount x my deposits but mostly i like to see how long i can play on a set amount.

 

[aka23]

A combination of for income, entertainment, and "other".

 

[DiamondGeezer]

I do it because if you take risks good things can happen. Gambling needent mean losing money. But I would still do it even if it did . It's in the blood and the buzz can be huge.

 

[zuga]

I voted for INCOME, but i wouldnt call it gambling

 

[Jufo]

Well I think 'for income' means it's something you depend on for day-to-day living, so I voted 'Pocket Change'. But I guess that depends on how big your pockets are because my average monthly profit for the last 24 months is $657/month.

Even if you had no link in your signature, I still wouldn't believe that.

If a first time poster made the same post as yours, they would be banned. The only difference is you gained peoples respect first.

Actually many bonus players make MUCH more than $657 per month so Kasinokings results are actually at the lower end. This is probably because he doesn't hunt down every single bonus opportunity and plays low-risk wagers.

However, those who make more, usually do sports bonuses and poker bonuses as well.

This part is ture. However, you say you make this money from claiming bonuses. Due to the wagering requirements, all a bonus will do is extend your game time at the casino. They are not profitable! Ask any casino manager!!!

I think you should really do some research about this, because this is not true.

 

[james01]

I think you should really do some research about this, because this is not true.

The odds are against you making real money from bonuses. However, odds are just that - statistics. If you play the odds enough, you'll have outliers on either side - some stunning losses, and some good wins.

 

[AGW]

Entertainment and learning more about games, try to find better strategies.

 

[dendrite]

It's all about the entertainment for me. I like discovering the bonus games. I set myself a limit, only play low-stakes and expect to lose.

Mind you, it's still much more fun in the casino, though where you can people-watch and get bought free drinks by pretty young things in short skirts!

 

[james01]

It's all about the entertainment for me. I like discovering the bonus games. I set myself a limit, only play low-stakes and expect to lose.

Mind you, it's still much more fun in the casino, though where you can people-watch and get bought free drinks by pretty young things in short skirts!

I'm also into the bonus games, and don't tell anyone but I love the girlie cocktails served by pretty girlies.

 

[dominique]

Definitley entertainment. Bonus games are getting better and better. Winning is part of it, it makes it more fun of you can win something. But it's not the reason I play, I am always prepared to just pay for my entertainment.

Whether I go see a movie or a show or go shopping or go out to dinner or play online, I am spending within my entertainment budget. If your financial well being depends on whether you win or lose, you are in trouble.